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2768879 No.2768879 [Reply] [Original]

I’d like to run a whole home generator off of water pressure from a nozzle. In this scenario how much PSI would I need to set up something like this?

My thought was, what if I set up a well on top of a hill and use that height to pressurize the water to spin the generator.

I’m open to other ideas but my real question is about PSI required to actually spin the rotor, unless there’s a different setup that can do the same thing without height.

>> No.2768882

Or perhaps a small water tower that’s fed by a well and a small solar powered pump, then use the pressure from that to run the generator and the runoff water feeds into a pond or something?

Has anyone done anything like this?

>> No.2768889

>>2768879
This is stupid bro. Not enough energy output. Remember the conservation of energy and power lost to heat. In other words, it works but in a scale much larger than you think.

>> No.2768894

>>2768889
People do it all the time.
https://youtu.be/w9nUskuwupA?si=F9ifeYc1WaNsi6lk

The difference is they have access to mountain streams, I do not have that access.

>> No.2768896

>>2768889
Or this

https://youtu.be/p8y54IdWPo4?si=sYfHzDGiactLgMMP

>> No.2768899

>>2768894
Exactly what I said. It works but in a much larger scale.

>> No.2768900

>>2768882
And as I mentioned earlier. Remember the conservation of energy. If you had enough energy from solar to power a pump, why go the extra steps (and extra losses) of pumping water to spin something to generate electricity? Energy multipliers don't exist.

>> No.2768902

>>2768879
>what if I set up a well on top of a hill
how do you think wells work? no really I want to know.

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>>2768879
>Hydraulic Power Formula: HP = PSI * GPM / 1714
>(HP*1714)/GPM = PSI
let's say you can live within plywood shack means and only need a 4kw generator. that's about 5hp. say you have a 10 gpm cistern way up on the hill out back. that's 925 psi to run a theoretically perfect system with no friction, shock load, bearing drag, moody losses. you'd also need a fuck of a big mountain out back because it takes about 2200 ft of head to make 925 psi. a fairytale with a small pelton wheel. basically you have to scale everything pretty huge to have a low head mill pond and a water wheel turn a giant flywheel then geared to the genset. don't forget you need really good speed governing to keep 60 hz during operation

>> No.2768906

>>2768879
It's time to hit up MartyT's utube site and check out his off-grid situation. He's been diverting water from a mountainside stream and spinning a modded washing machine for years.

>> No.2768917

>>2768902
My assumption was the well would provide water under some natural pressure. After googling, that is not always the case so that was a bad assumption.

Essentially my thought was ok if I don’t have access to a freak just dig a well and make my own and maybe fill a pond, then on one side the pond has a run off channel that allows for the hydro power. Does that help?

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>>2768899
>it only works at large scales
>don’t try to make your own power goy

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2768951

>>2768917
okay so you dig a well. the water is at the bottom, which incidentally is how you know to stop digging. what is your next step? if you say fill a pond, that's fine but how do you get the water from the bottom of the well to the pond? Do you even have a hill?

>> No.2768953

>>2768951
>natural pressure
It hinges on this aspect, this is not a well like you have at the town square in 1600 with the bucket. This is the kind of well that’s dug with a drill 150 down that’s capped off at the top. I think we’re talking about different shit man.

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2768954

>>2768951
Not sure what else you want from me

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2768955

>>2768953
>>2768954
answer the question: do you even have a hill? I bet you don't.

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2768957

>>2768953
>150 down

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2768959

>>2768879
anything you don't understand you waste peoples time on 4chan, because you don't have any ability to think and reason.

>> No.2768971

>>2768955
Wut? What question am I answering? I thought I already answered your question? Did I not?

>> No.2768973

>>2768957
What’s wrong?

>> No.2768976

>>2768957
In my area, according to the Texas water development board, the wells are 50 to 300 feet deep. Is there a problem with a 150 foot well?

>> No.2768984

>>2768879
Small scale hydropower sucks, even spending a fuckton of money to set up, you end up generating 2kw on ideal conditions. And the river needs to be close from your house or you'll get raped by the cost of wiring

>> No.2768986

>>2768971
DO YOU HAVE A HILL?

>> No.2768988

>>2768984
>And the river
you dummy a river isn't a well

>> No.2768997

>>2768954
what are the fucking odds of digging a pressurized well? I don't doubt it happens but the chance of it happening? Has to be a very specific area

>> No.2769002

>>2768879
ignoring the fact that you're retarded and don't understand how gravity works, there is no set amount of "PSI to spin a rotor", it depends on the workload

more watts = harder to spin = "more PSI"

just get a solar panel you cuck

>> No.2769021

>>2769002
as if, where is OP supposed to put the solar panels?

>> No.2769328

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH2VTGsrGVk
how many watts do you think that water mill generates

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2769358

>>2769328
at least 1.2 jiggle watts

>> No.2770589

>>2768879
calculate potential energy of water from fall, compare it to your electricity bill.

>> No.2770605

>>2769021
On the hill