/diy/ - Do It Yourself

it do be like dat
if ur so smart why don’t u start ur own bidness?

>>2751307
>see everyone around me is lazy and unwilling to improve/learn better techniques
>my hour worth the same as these less than ideal coworkers
>realize I'm an employee and all my skills = my boss getting good projects
>get stuck on a difficult project, boss is stumped, figure it out myself.
>fuck this, incorporate and check my non-compete clause
I get it anon, self employed now. I guess for your overhead for a shop + equipment would cost take significant start up money though.

>>2751314
>if ur so smart why don’t u start ur own bidness?
unending imposter syndrome mixed with a concocting of other mental illness brought on by my mother killing herself when I was about go graduated college.
I do have an idea for something I’d like to do as my own business, I just need to figure out how to do it.

>>2751319
>Unsolicited advice
Don't make a big deal out of it, get the smallest piece of specialized equipment you can buy and start offering one service. Use the funds for the next one, repeat. Only take on what you can handle, grow slowly and keep your day job. It'll suck for a while, but if it fails so what, if it doesn't fail, well there, you did it.

>my experience, feel free to ignore
I spent my first two or three months doing side jobs on the weekend while working full time. I quit and finally incorporated after I spent most of the next 3-6 months at home living off savings and marketing my company. At year 5-6 I stopped marketing and went to recommendations only, work slowed down for a while but it was still only enough I could handle, without the headaches of every karen with a smart phone calling me for bullshit jobs they couldn't afford.

>>2751307
>>2751314
>Have problem
>Know it's a basic fix
>Go to diy forums, here, plebbit, misc
>"Call a professional tech to swap this part for you"
Wtf, fixing the part is basic shit, why would diy tell me to pay a hustler to play with legos

I see it often, I'm referencing a particular post, don't remember the context.
If you can't answer a "how's the right way to diy" then just stfu

>>2751321
I appreciate the advice. I think I’m going to start doing small side projects and see if I’m able to sell them or find people needing similar work.

>>2751307
This happens in CS derived fields as well.
I asked a team to use a database and they all wanted to be sent to “training” rather than bothering to read up about it. Everything they did was shit, and, years later every time it crashed and burned they said “hey I ain’t got no training, so what do you expect”
Pretty much killed the company.

The blue-collar mentality is everywhere.

>>2751319
>I just need to figure out how to do it
You just start. Don't plan out every last detail, otherwise it will never materialize. All you need is one good repeat customer to make it happen.
The trickiest part is figuring out when you're going to quit your day job and focus on your business full time. It's a leap of faith
What's your idea, anon?

>>2751582
If it's for your job than getting the pro in to do the work is worth it for numerous reasons.
>liability and insurance
>tax write off
>cost effective
What you pay an employee to diagnose, troubleshoot and source replacement parts for busted equipment is far more than what you pay a tech to do the same work.

>>2751307
>blue collar workers
They are just awful redneck people

>>2751307
This is why I'm only /diy/ and not a tradie. I gave it a try, but I'm at least 20 IQ points above sea level for that world. I'd rather use that to make a shit-ton more money, even if it means working for Jews.

>>2751314
Being a good employee and being a good employer are vastly different challenges.

>I am lazy to no end, I want my work to be easy ... Do most people not follow this?
I can't remember where the discussion is, maybe c2 wiki, but there's that "Three Virtues of a Programmer" from Larry Wall (Perl guy).
Laziness, Impatience, Hubris.
All with a spin on them. You know, "lazy" because you want to automate processes, streamline them so there is no excess work. And so on.
It's tongue in cheek, but there are certain people that are driven this way.

Pretty often they pop up in tech, and some of them can stomach the bullshit. I couldn't.
I should have left my interest in cs/programming as a hobby, and skipped straight to being a machinist. Turns out my brain is well-suited to these kinds of problems as well, and even if it's a lower-status job, I'm much happier these days.

I'm going to attempt to make an oven vent on an exterior wall. I have vinyl siding tho, what's the best way to make the vent sit underneath or on top of the siding?

>>2753052
Bump

>>2752936
This is a hundred years old, from the military:

“I divide my officers into four classes as follows: The clever, the industrious, the lazy, and the stupid. Each officer always possesses two of these qualities.
Those who are clever and industrious I appoint to the General Staff. Use can under certain circumstances be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy qualifies for the highest leadership posts. He has the requisite nerves and the mental clarity for difficult decisions. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous.”

>>2751307
Don’t fix your bosses shit without directly being ordered to ever

They blame you if they need to spend $1 on a part to replace it

“It was working before op got to it!” Now we gotta spend a dolla aww sheet

You’ll learn basic CYA skills after working with felons, Mexicans and lower tier people often

Coming from a mostly white middle class CS University I bet you’ll think I spend too much money on locks and wonder why I lock up everything I own and keep all my stuff in a small area around hector

And assume racism or that I’m being paranoid

Scatter your trash across three trash cans, cut up all your cups, don’t try to go above and beyond

And aim for the middle of the pack

If you’re too productive you’re too important to promote, and that the management can push you harder for bonuses. But you’re never too important to pay off to get management bonuses

>>2753180
lazy chads stay winning

>>2751307
weird flex but ok

Had to screw the kitchen faucet plate back down. Former screw was corroded to nothing. Had to scrounge up a screw. Finding the driver for it was a time waster. Robertson head lost purchase once because the angle of entry was not perpendicular due to the previous screw body still being in place.

>>2752573
You have found your place in the world.

>>2753754
...yes

>>2751307
how did you get into CNC shit

asking for a friend.

>>2751307
time to move on. get another job and move forward. workplaces like that won't get better until the guy at the top changes things.

>>2751307
lol what kinda shitty underpaid blue collar job you have where you have to troubleshoot your tooling? Your machine should just work. Engineers build this shit and set up and programs or profiles, maintenance fixes shit if it breaks (or more likely when you fuck it up), and your job is to simply follow a work instruction and hit and button and or pull a lever. Asking a monkey brained blue collar worker for anything more is asking for trouble.

If you are doing anything more than hitting your designated button then your company must be making some massive budget cuts and trying to "do more with less."
Enjoy being unceremoniously fired in a year because the company restructured and shipped your job off to Guangzhou, or you were replaced with Ricardo from Venezuela or chatGPT.

Shoulda stuck with CS. At least you were guaranteed a code monkey job in a cramped cube writing Javascript for the rest of your life.

>>2754918
>>2754907
I work for a small shop that has <15 people.
Very shitty, very underpaid, but at the same time pretty laid back.
Don’t know what I’d move on to since my resume is CS mixed in with entirely self-taught experience on the job at my current place.
I’m not worried about being fired, at all, I routinely tell my boss he’s a fucking dickhead sack of shit and he gladly accepts it because I’m currently the only one he’s hired in the past few years that can actually help earn a profit.
>Shouda stuck with CS. At least you were guaranteed a…
Nah, no guarantees now given how fast GPTs are acing coding problems, mix that in with 10 years of telling every fucking idiot in the world to learn to code and you end up with job posting with literal thousands of applicants.
CS sucked 10 years ago when I left because the only people that were there were interested purely in making money and had no interest in actual development. Many times I had coworkers or classmates bewildered when I told them over the weekend I was doing personal coding projects for fun. As if programming’s only purpose was to earn them a good salary.

>>2754897
Above slightly answers it, small shop, they were desperate, lied slightly on my resume and I just kinda learned everything myself while on the job.

>>2755513
Sometimes these are the best situations. I worked for a small time guy when I was apprenticing as a stone worker. We had fun, told each other off all day, made some money. Etc. issue was I had no room to grow and I had capped out on my wage potential. At the end of the day he was always going to be the boss and me the worker.

Cue me moving to a bigger company. They saw how skilled I was an dumped 9 employees on my lap to run a massive project worth around 4-5 million dollars for the year. My pay went up slightly but I was under so much pressure and deadlines it was horrible.

It took me about a year to decide I had no choice but to go on my own, I tried to recreate my first job, but with me as the boss and so far it's been great.

I hate it when I get a box of saltine crackers and some are broken. On the other hand, I love it that you can google practically anything.

after being on 4chan for 16 years, and being called "reddit" for all sorts of stupid things, and having never been to reddit I decided to check it out.

what an incredibly nice and helpful place it is. people answer questions and actually give useful helpful advice.

thank you anons, for turning me on to it. I wish I had gone there sooner.

>>2756436
holy shit anon, this is the most awesome thing i've read today

>>2756437
bye dont come back

>>2755513
>>2755707
They will always need people who understand tech to go around IT departments. Fire up indeed and start looking for another job. I'd try and find a bigger shop with bigger machines to play with.

>>2756437
i know rite.
ask a technical question, and somebody there actually answers it. my mind was blown

>>2756448
oh I'll be here, whenever you lose an argument, that will be me you lost to.

I'm glad I tried the trades but ultimately chose not to stick with it
Made it 6 months into a union apprenticeship. Thought it would be some kind of professional training program, but instead got shipped off to a couple different jobs with no clear leadership or training. I had the totally wrong impression of trades work - I thought I'd be learning from and working with masterful competent guys in a small team, which isn't how it's structured at all. Most guys thought a 75 hour week = success and didn't give it any more thought than that. Pay didn't really offset the travel and other expenses. No one to blame but myself I guess.

Having had a peek behind the curtain, it's crazy how much waste of materials and man hours on the job site can be attributed to straight incompetence or unwillingness to follow rules

>>2751307
I know that feeling, never help anyone unless your boss acknowledges the value you provided and compensates you financially for your skills. I would do that all around the business, machines that would barely work for an hour before starting to fail now can run all day thanks to my efforts. I do all these sorts of things to try and get promoted and more pay.
What did I accomplish? I made it so things run so fast they try and push me into the worst jobs in the shop since I got free time and they just take for granted everything runs so well.