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Say you had it. How would you get money out of it? Besides: dumping it back into the grid, heating an alcohol still, compressing air, hydrogen electrolysis.

Does anyone buy distilled water?

>> No.2743974

>>2743967
Depends on how much free electricity you've got and where it is and how stealthy you have to be about it.

You could take up crypto mining.
You could get into metal recycling.
You could undercut EV charging stations.

>> No.2743985

treat waste water
pump water
melt and purify melts
electro plating
uniform spray painting
electro ground cleaning for agri prep
cloud seeding
agitating water for bio divercity
I would not use it to sure up unstable ground for a foundation of a super skyscraper, dumb arabs.
o3 generator for sterilization
...

>> No.2743989

>>2743967
Nigga if you gonna try to tap into a feeder line you're gonna die and they'll cut you off.

>> No.2744008

>>2743967
If you’re stealing electricity grow weed or charge lime scooters

>> No.2744017

>>2743974
Crypto, whatever the immorality overall, need a nut to mount hardware, unless you know any company/individual who rents the racks.

Metal recycling sounds like a toxic hassle. But some kind of arc furnace id listen to.

I'm near a gas station that doesn't have chargers. But again, I'm talking bayard level.

>>2743985
Half these I don't know anything about theoretically. Is there any company that has rollaway whatever? Just shows up in your driveway and uses your power?
The foundation thing sounds as scifi near future as anything I've ever heard.

>>2743989
I'm not stealing anything. Just thinking about a outdoor boiler/solar/wind with that makes anything commodifiable, storeable if there was ever surplus energy. I live so spartanly, I only need a job a fraction of the poverty line to subsist. So aside from going hard at a conventional job, and retiring early, a spotty employment record has been a death knell.

>>2744008
A vertical farm, but as I very thinly understand it, even that storage container ones use so little electric, it wouldn't be worth the diesel to haul it here.

>> No.2744236

>>2744017
> A vertical farm, but as I very thinly understand it
Where I live growers get caught by their electricity bill. The forbidden plant uses some 30W per square feet depending on type of lightning, up to 80W/sqft for tomatos with non led lamps, 14 h 100 sqft at $0.15 per kWh makes $10 a day

>> No.2744319

>>2743967
If you live in a place where there is enough interest then running your own, local EV fast charger station could be worth it, but I'm sure the hardware cost is massive. I also imagine that your theoretical nonspecific local power station is more in the range of a few kilowatts, not a few hundred kilowatts.
The only small-scale investment that is easy to deploy, manage and scale is crypto mining, but even then, the profitability is so low that I don't see a point (given that I have regular income, maybe if I was a NEET, I'd bother to do it). Selling back to the grid is okay, very mediocre income, but zero maintenance.

>> No.2744339

Mine crypto

>> No.2744349

>>2744236
I thought led lights broke that tactic. I remember that old cops ep with super faggot John bunnell confiscating that dude Ferrari when they raided just cause of an electric bill. I'm in maryland, so legal, but sweetheart regulated. I'd be happy to fight that in anyway, but want to die a crime virgin.

>>2744319
Looking forward, that's good. I'm a groud level investor, in an affluent liberal area, so the green washing is peak here. Tons of Teslas but so wealth as to have home chargers. I'm. Not far from 95 though, so over range travelers need them.

>> No.2745866

Shameless anchor bump.

>> No.2747017

Buy BEV or PHEV and charge that. Money saved is as useful as money earned.

>> No.2747024

>>2743967
I was in college when Bitcoin came out. I brought my home PC and used it to mine coins for "free" minus my tuition of course in my dorm.
Left that shit running 24/7 and then I sold it like a faggot to put a down payment on my first apartment.

>> No.2747143

>>2747017
Not if there are up front costs.

>>2747024
I've been watching it the whole time. Though about just buying and holding as a libertarian cause. All you'd be doing now is making speculators rich. Low character gambling ruins everything.

>> No.2747153

>>2744349
>I thought led lights broke that tactic
They don't. They simply don't have the power for long term grow. They're fine for starting seedlings to eventually put outside, but you can't do a larger grow with them without suffering yield reductions that negate any electrical savings

>> No.2747161

>>2744349
>I thought led lights broke that tactic.
LEDs don't produce a broad spectrum and plants hate them.

>> No.2747251

>>2743967
Use it to build an empire of shit posting by staying online all day and then profit massively from your army of influence.

>> No.2747303

>>2747153
>>2747161
I had no idea.

>>2747251
It's been fruitless so far....

>> No.2747305

>>2743967
bitcion

>> No.2747369

Lots of good replies so I'm not going to tag anyone. There's a fundamental misunderstanding I want to address.

Example:
Offgrid canadian Curtis Stone spent $130,000CAN ($100kUSD) for his system. He said it has 96kw of batteries ($27,000USD, about $1400 per 5kw module), and the equivalent of one 18k all-in-one EG4 (luxpower), as two Schneider electric 8k's and separate charge controllers.

20kw of panels total, arranged in 3x arrays.

13kw yanmar diesel generator, runs at 80% load, kicks in at 50% battery level.

600(n)-800w(d) avg hourly draw. 10-15kw per day.

https://youtu.be/f1ZyZNRYezA

His starlink alone draws 200w per hour. Although the newer ones i hear draw half as much or less. Has 3 chest freezers (I'd guess around 60w ea avg hrly).

He has an outdoor boiler w reburner. His primary heating is from wood. He also has propane and diesel.

"I am not going to use a lot"
You will. You will use what your system produces or you would have thrown money away.
"I am going to have extra"
You might, at certain times of the year, in summer. In that case, you can have a solar bypass dump load that funnels the panel output into resistive heating, like an electric hot water heater. But usually what happens is it's just unharvested power on smaller systems.

Countless noobs in your shoes, who have never built a system, say 'I have 500w of solar' (panels) and want to pretend they have a lot. Congrats, you have enough to trickle-charge a car or motorhome battery, charge your phone, run some LED lights, run the 12v water tank pump intermittently. That's it. You're not going to have 'extra'.

10x that, at 5kw of panels per person is more correct. No Tesla (but an ebike), no electric heating (but a circulation pump).

You need to go on DIYSOLARFORUM and post your specs, and ask for help. I've seen the responses generally, when people want to DIY a system, and they are going to have you wasting a lot of money and being frustrated.

>> No.2747491

>>2747369
Very interesting. What if you had free grid power?

>> No.2747524

>>2747491
>What if you had free grid power?
One of the main goals of smart meters is that they make it very easy to locate power thieves.

>> No.2747536

>>2747491
Charge car batteries and perform jump starts by the side of the road. Provide seating while they wait and sell refrigerated beer by the can.

>> No.2747612

>>2747524
Will you niggers stop pretending go have seen through something? Answer the fucking question. Turn solar, whatever the fuck ever, into something bankable, marketable. Don't respond with this horseshit again.

>> No.2747658

>>2747612
>Answer the fucking question
The question is a fucking joke so of course we are giving joke answer, fuck face.

>> No.2747661

>>2747658
Fuck did I say, bitch? That's not an answer.

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2747679

>>2743967
>Run many different desalinification machines nonstop
>pump the now fresh water back into the ocean
Give it a few years and the entire atlantic will be slightly less salty

>> No.2748776

What about oxygen machines?

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2749263

>>2748874
Where is the field change? Under the table with another magnet?

>> No.2750045

>>2747491
> what if you had free grid power

I'm not gay and not a nigger.

>> No.2750046

>>2747661
Namefags go back to plebbit, jamal.

>> No.2750348

>>2750045
Relevance?

>>2750046
Never been. Unlike you.

>> No.2750351

>>2749263
As usual, it's fake.

>> No.2750914

>>2750351
Well no shit. But how?

>> No.2751095

>>2747369
Battery cell costs have gone down so much that you can get 1kW LFP cells for $70, so you could have 100kW for under 10k if you /diy/, including additional costs like cases and controllers. 100kW seems like overkill if you have a normal house and aren't explicitly looking to go off-grid with solar only. A genset can easily replenish a 30kW battery when you need it for a very low cost.
>Starlink
It draws ~50W unless it's heating itself to melt snow.
>5kW per person
For an off-grid system that doesn't want to rely too much on generator, yes, but for a hybrid/on-grid system, that's only necessary if you're also heating a large house with a heat pump. Heating excluded, 5-6kWp producing ~6MWh a year should be enough. Obviously anyone can look at their current electricity bills and see how much power they average yearly.
>Tesla
Cars draw surprisingly little power if you average it out, 1kWp is enough for a daily driver that does maybe 20-30 miles on workdays. Of course it's another story if you want to charge your car in the winter from solar.

>> No.2752185

>>2747679
this

>> No.2752336

>>2747143
Crypto is the future anon. Bitcoin is a geriatric digital gold, but the other useful platforms are where the future of the world economy lies. Word of warning, if it is a VC backed coin it exists solely to use you as exit liquidity, don't fall for it.

>> No.2752382

>>2752336
>extended power grid failure
>$50 million in buttcoin now becomes $50 million in nothing
sasuga. Next time buy tangible assets retard-kun.