/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Where is this? Auschwitz?

>>2684984
bricks and concrete are not bricks
Bricks are better insulators than wood plates
Europeans also put additional 8-15cm of polyester to boost insulation
superior intuition helps retain comfortable temperature inside for far longer - warm in winter and cool in summer - decreases the need for AC
any excess humidity can be easily removed with proper ventilation

>>2684998
bricks and concrete are not rocks*

>>2684984
A few reasons. First and main reason, we live in cold, wet countries. Houses need to withstand our climate. Bricks last for hundreds of years. It's not unusual the house you live in is well over a hundred years old. Maintenance and upkeep is reduced tremendously. We have specific tools for chasing brickwork and coring holes

>>2685026
How do unreinforced masonry buildings manage to meet the earthquake codes? If I built a brick building in my area, I would need to reinforce it with mesh wiring so that it wouldn't simply crumble and collapse and kill me in the event of a strong quake.

>>2685059
>How do unreinforced masonry buildings manage to meet the earthquake codes?

We don't have earthquakes? At least in the northern/central part, there are earthquakes in southern europe but they aren't near the level of what you have somewhere in California I guess.

I've never been in an earthquake in my life, these things are borderline fantasy to me, and to most people where I live.

私は生と死、私は時間そのもの、私は神、私はすべて、私は無、私は熱、私は冷たさ、私はすべて、すべては私です。人生は私のものです、助けてください。助けて、私は神、私はすべてです

The most outrageous thing about OP's post is an american travelling to another country.

>>2685065
I get hard when a tornado goes through Europe because it makes yuros realize their houses aren't any stronger than American ones in the face of a real tornado.

>>2684984
Those are brick houses.
Which are also common in the Northeastern United States, if I'm not mistaken.
They used to hit a very nice balance between ease of construction, cheapness, and durabilty of construction. Being masonry, they suck at seismic resistance (not a issue in Northern Europe as said >>2685065, although old mines can collapse).

I grew up in a actual stone house. Walls of granite and mortar, beams of oak, roof of shale ; a former stable turned into 4 apartments. But it had motorized ventilation. Only a few spots of mold in the toilet (landlord's explanation : wrong type of plaster was used for a water room)

I currently live in a reinforced concrete building built in the 1960's, and my bedroom is damp as fuck. A shitton of black mold grows each winter due to condensation on cold spots alongside the northern wall and window. It used to be otherwise. Works ordered by the subsidized housing cronies fucked up the airflow in the apartments without improving insulation at all.

TL,DR : It's all about the fucking airflow.
Still better than a American house. I'm baffled by your punchable walls.

Houses made from bricks have the advantage of not collapsing when a little bit of wind occures.

>>2685104
>I get hard when a tornado goes through Europe because it makes yuros realize their houses aren't any stronger than American ones in the face of a real tornado.

The house i grew up in is 160 years old and has seen many storms.
The framing and the roof structure is 20x20 to 30x30 oak timber beams, slotted and mortissed into each other.
Each individual ceramic roof shingle has a tab with a hole on the bottom and is tied down to the timber to prevent it from flying off in a storm.

All you have to do to "tornado proof" such a house is to roll down the window shutters.

>>2685066
私は私私は... you know nips dont speak like that, google translate does lol

Jfc always the same cluelessness in these threads. Houses are built to withstand what happens on the places where they are built.

>>2685067
We don’t have real tornadoes, but there are occasional storms that uproot 50+ year old beech trees. Usually only a few shingles get blown off, there’s only real damage if a tree hits a house. No idea if they would withstand a tornado ofc, nobody cares

>>2685065
There was a 3.6 earthquake a few years ago and yea some 100+ yo farm houses/converted barns got wall cracks but you see worse damage on diy every day

Also you guys may not know this, but what brick houses excel in is that they can be flooded without the walls rotting. You drain the cavity wall, tear the flooring, let everything dry and repaint. Whereas if your wall is drywall/wood you’ll be tearing it down to the frame and might as well rebuild.

>>2684984
> cardboard goyhuts are so much nicer
LMAO

>>2685246
>>2685248
Lol no. You yuro jack offs are hilarious.
No building short of an underground bunker will withstand an F5 tornado. Here are pictures of the aftermath of an F5 tornado that happened in the Czech Republic.
Do you see that brick house? Totally destroyed.
I sometimes wish climate change was real so more tornados and bad storms would humble you.

>>2685357
Ex-soviet shitholes aren't "europe".

I can see at one glance they used 5x15 cm soft spruce timber for the roof, a third of what's common here.
The bricks are 12,5cm wide, a quarter of what we use here for walls, and obviously the mortar was mostly sand with no cement in it, otherwise the bricks they already stacked up neatly would be coated in mortar and shattered into pieces.

I actually did computational fluid dynamic simulations for fun, the average house here would withstand supersonic winds with minor damage.

>>2684984
>Europe build most of their homes from rocks.
Don't underestimate the quality and strength of European masonry joints. Some of these structures have been up for over 1000 years.

>>2685394
If your house is hit directly by an f5 tornado, timber size isn't going to make a difference. That is quite rare though, even in the US. Ridiculously thick and reinforced concrete with sloped walls or most of the building being underground would be the only ways to have a reasonable expectation of relatively minor damage. Thankfully f5s are rare, even in the US, and most of the damage comes from surrounding storm damage, not the direct hit. And lol @ yuros cherry picking some historical monument sort of building as though it represents typical construction.

>>2685357
i see a lof of standing walls and even houses, meanwhile this is the aftermath in freedom land, it levels pretty much everything
who would have thought that brick/concrete and mortar walls resist wind and flying debris better than OSB panels?
usually the worst case is that your roof is gone

Yuros cream their pants over stick built houses in all the high end residential designs.

>>2685394
>>2685493
Suck a dick yuro. Here's a house destroyed by an f3 tornado in Germany.
> muh standing wall
They're going to test it all down so it doesn't matter anyway.

>>2685407
>>2685581
You literally cited an F5 tornado damage. Meanwhile >>2685591
Is an f3 that destroyed houses in Germany.
>>2685407
Those joints won't hold up to shit in an f3 and that goal post nigger who claimed the Czech republic doesn't count is forgetting that they were once ruled by Austrian BVLLS.

>>2685059
As already said, we don't have earthquakes. Ever. I experienced one on holiday in Turkey it was very unusual. I thought somebody kicked the bed. Only after it kept wobbling did I realise it was an earthquake. Very interesting experience.

>>2685641
most of the US doesn't really get strong earthquakes either, yet they always manage to bring it up why their mcmansion in north dakota is made from OSB and drywall

>>2685594
>Those joints won't hold up to shit in an f3
if they weren't hit by an F3 and devastating earthquake after 500+ years the odds are they aren't going to in the next 500 either. even in the US the odds of getting your house leveled by a tornado in your lifetime even in the states most prone to strong torrnados are very close to zero
so yes it's cope to justify cheaping out followed by seething when this is pointed out

>>2685655
i even found a source, also keep in mind this in an area on the border of tornado alley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MWGEwGbAdk
1/12k odds of your house being hit by any tornado, and the weakest ones being around 80% of all tornados the odds for a strong one go down to nearly 1/100k(!)
it's also a question of population- and tornado density, so directly comparing it with germany isn't accurate but still, it illustrates it's a weak excuse to make your house out of cardboard

>>2685493
>>>2685394
>If your house is hit directly by an f5 tornado

That's only 400-500 km/h wind. Trivial loads for average european houses.

>timber size isn't going to make a difference.
>Ridiculously thick and reinforced concrete with sloped walls or most of the building being underground would be the only ways to have a reasonable expectation of relatively minor damage.

You're clearly clueless about the forces involved.

>>2685591
That's not a house, it's a hut. You can tell from the straw which someone deemed suitable for roof construction.
Hillarious.

>>2685594
>once ruled by Austrian BVLLS.

Notoriously lazy drunks, not to be trusted.

>>2685591
Here’s another pic of the same town after the same storm, see all those buildings still standing? Also these buildings are pre ww1

>>2685774
> hurr durr see deem strong buildingz
>>2685774
> knows nothing about path of destruction and size of funnel as it travels
> air speed away from funnel is much less than in funnel
Why u gay?

>>2685655
Here's a sTrOnG German house destroyed by an f3. So much for muh building strength.

>>2685811

>>2685810
> oi looks like you'll need a loicense to rebuild. Guess the English can't build much strong houses to handle a piddly diddly f2 tornado.

>>2685762
You're clearly trolling here's a pic of some strongly built American houses that stood up to an f2. Guess those English couldnt build strong houses.

>>2685774
>Zut alors! Mon Maison wuz not built as strong as the European mason nigger on diy said it wuz!

>>2685813
Anon, that's a garden shack. We don't make those out of bricks....

>>2685762
> Sacrebleu!

>>2685820
I've posted enough pictures of yuro buildings getting cucked by weather. Hopefully climate change is real so you end up getting more bad weather that destroys your beloved homes.

>>2685870
That doesn't explain why you went through the effort of downloading your random stock image, uploading it again, filling out the captcha, just to present us with an image of a broken shed. I don't get it.

>>2685889
Because it was part of the search results. You've got hung up on one image when you have several more the point that yuro construction being stronger is a meme.

>>2685917
So you searched for destroyed shit in europe and for some reason you posted every single result no matter how irrelevant?
Is that like an OCD thing with you?

>>2685922
Proving a yuro fag wrong was worth it.
PS my house is 280m2, how big is your pod?

>>2684984
having live in the USA in several places in the Midwest and also north western Europe, i prefer the Euro's stone houses, they stay dry, are way way way less noisy, almost no creaking, and if people are in the next room, you don't hear everything they do or say full volume. my Dakota home, i had a ladder fall over and punch a fucking hole in the wall, i remodeled a home in Germany and had to use a sledgehammer to remove a wall between two rooms. putting in a wall wasn't hard at all, just stack some Ytong blocks and anchor in place. the house had concrete frame and floors with Ytong and or brick inner and outer walls that could be put in and moved the way i wanted with relative ease

>>2685026
>First and main reason, we live in cold, wet countries
I think the real first and main reason is that most of the local forests that would allow for wood construction were logged into oblivion hundreds of years ago. This meant building from brick, stones and concrete became the pretty much the only option if you wanted a sturdy building.

>>2685925
How does a destroyed wooden shed prove anything wrong?

>>2685942
If you're going to conveniently miss the several other pictures proving the point, then you're just a bad faith nigger. Post a pic of the house you live in. Tip: a house doesn't share walls, a cuck pod does however.

>>2685945
My problem is a specific image.
You had to see the image while downloading it and another time while uploading it.
What went through your head?
I just want to understand.

>>2685948
I grabbed a bunch of pictures and that was one of them. I'm phone fagging, sue me.

>>2685951
Your phone doesn't display images?

>>2685953
Fuck off. I literally grab a bunch of pics in quick succession. If this is too hard to grasp, go back to your drywall job.

>>2685955
But you had to see them while doing it, didn't you?

>>2685958

>>2685925
>m2
Bro we don't talk like that here

>>2684984

>>2685971
I know but the yuro needs to be spoken to using his cucksurements.

>>2685493
>yuros cherry picking some historical monument sort of building as though it represents typical construction
It does though.

>>2684984
>especially to run things like electricity and plumbing and insulation.
not really it's barely more work but once it's done it's done and it's a bitch to replace but there's no need if it was done in the last 2 decades
>The inside must be very cold and damp
quite the contrary the insulation is excellent far better than sticks
>Homes in America are so much nicer.
ahahahahaha you don't even have tiles on your bathrooms or real wood on your floors you cheap fuck
>>2685059
>How do unreinforced masonry buildings manage to meet the earthquake codes?
they don't retard, this is why you put reinforced concrete pillars
>>2685114
>I grew up in a actual stone house. Walls of granite and mortar, beams of oak
stone and brick crap reinforced by wood, we have a house like this in the village, built in the 50s. it cracked to shit after an earthquake in around the year 2000, its pretty much ready for demolition
2 other houses there one from the 80s that is complete and one from the 90s with no interior work done, both holding up perfectly

>>2685813
...literally a wooden tool shed, and it was obviously destroyed by a tree falling onto it, the other shed in the next yard seems perfectly fine
are you really that desperate to own the yuropoors? you're retarded even by american standards

european dogs have their kennels build better than american 'people' houses lmao

>>2685939
Yea Europe is mostly just barren wasteland, no forests or anything anymore. All gone now

>>2685925
"Mom! Hey Mom! Hey, how big is our house?" "Why don't you come out of the basement and have a look? It would be lovely to see you Anon!" "No! just tell me in metric so I can shit over someone on the internet!" "O-ok Anon *sniffs* *sound of tape measure extending* "Alexa convert..."

>>2685000
too late, you're retarded, opinion disregarded

>>2684984
>The inside must be very cold and damp.
No, my room gets so hot that I can dry clothes by leaving them on the bed

>>2687373
kekked

>>2685065
>I've never been in an earthquake in my life, these things are borderline fantasy to me, and to most people where I live.
I can tell you what it was like in 2011 in a 1991 building, literal wartime construction (Serbia moment) your light fixture would wobble, any potted plants you may have too, maybe you would if you were in a computer chair. That goes on for 3 seconds and then... Nothing. Maybe you check the news after and then see half of a Croatian town has turned to rubble an hour ago.

>>2685972
Oh shit, my bad!
I’ll be sure to check in with you first next time.

>>2685104
My house saw the birth of your country and may still stand to see its death.