/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>2662641
Used 18v dewalt with the battery adapter and waitley (generic dewalt) batteries. A used DCB115 or similar charger to go with it. ALWAYS use an oem dewalt charger; the mystery-spice chinesium design, of 3rd party chargers, is a hazard.

'If you're going to buy new, let some other guy try it first.'

>>2662641
isn't any "budget" drill going to use a budget drill chuck though?
you can always replace it with a quality chuck ...

>>2662641

>>2662641
Works on my drill. Maybe you're too queer.

>>2662641
This is the one.
You know you want it.

Ryobi is absolute dogshit.

>>2663206
>don't talk to me or my son ever again

>>2663206
That battery orientation is quite poorly designed with the handle blocking it...

>>2663418
I've had one of their drills take some pretty serious abuse for about 6 years now, maybe I got a good bin

>>2663486
Recent differ from the old horrors.

>>2663498
Gotcha. Also, I'm almost always fucking around with things and projects, constantly really, but I don't do 9-5 trade work with em

>>2663498
I disagee, as does everybody I know who owns Ryobi. The only people who shit on Ryobi are people who haven’t used them much.

Used mostly old 12v Makita and Ryobi before, been using Kobalt in marine environments since 2016. Got the 1/2 impact, flashlight, two handed sawzall, hammer drill, drywall drill, and just got the blower. The 24v is badass, the batteries are cheap as dirt, power is decent, and the tools really do take a beating. The brushless hammer drill has taken a hell of a beating, left it out in saltwater air for a couple months. Soaked it in PB blaster and vise grips got the semi rusty chuck unstuck, still running today. Need to pick up an oscillating tool once my cheap corded one dies.

Cheapest batteries (was $20ish for a 2AH battery a while back, probably more like $30 now) made it a no-brainer for me - batteries are consumables, and since the tools are on the cheap side as well, the total cost of ownership is lowest. Fuck paying an extra couple grand over the lifetime of your toolset for a different color, especially when it's all manufactured overseas.

Downsides are limited lineup, but that's been slowly improving. I do get jealous of all the crazy stuff Milwaukee is always coming out with, like the heated jackets. I'm sure their modular systems are cool too - just never made the leap. They'd be my second choice. At least I don't go (as) broke buying unnecessary crap.

>>2662641
I got one with a free battery and use it solely for drilling pilot holes for tapcons. It has held up to a surprising amount of abuse. I don't know why they just don't use an old key style chuck to save money though. I guess it's because they benefit when it breaks because you have to buy another idk

>>2663593
That and brand loyalty retardation. I buy budget tools for the most part. If it breaks, lesson learned that I use that tool enough to need a higher quality one. If it doesn't then I got a good deal. Obviously, if you need precision, it's a bit different (drill presses for some people, lathes, measuring equipment etc)

>>2663439
The handle rotates when you loosen it, usually you’ll have it off to one side, or you can remove it altogether.

Say all you want but with those two I built a 2.5 x 2 cabin, wood shed, 4m ladder, composter, veranda and numerous other things that I don't remember. The small blue one is a Macalister.
Sthor isn't too powerful and sometimes unscrews, but apart from that it's a decent tool.
Nothing like Makita I used at work, but, but they get the job done.

I'd put it up against Milwaukee or Dewalt any day of the week

>>2663418
I don't know, Chicago electric's pretty up there.

>>2663439
It's called marketing have no idea how the tool is actually used. As
>>2663837
said, you simply give the grip a twist, and that loosens the collar. Then you rotate it whatever position you want, and twist to lock it.

No one ever actually uses something like that with the handle in that orientation, but that's not a design flaw.

>>2663861
>Walmart Hypertough matches Milwaukee/DeWalt tools

No. Just No. Nice troll tho.

You would not say that, if you ever used Milwaukee in the trades. Walmart Hypertough is like Bauer (Harbor Freight economy tool lineup) quality, or worse.

BtW I never figured out Hercules, or whatever the HF blue cordless lineup is. Manager said they get more defective product returns, so I settled on Bauer for incidental use. Doesn't hold up as well as an older dewalt 18v though. Not to say the newer ones are bad, but you're likely to find older stuff in various places at a reasonable cost: Batteries are easily available, as are slide to post adapters, so it can run on modern dewalt packs.

Don't blame the tool, blame yourself for not knowing how to use it properly.

>>2663874
>actually bought into Bauer
So dumb. Ryobi is a better choice in every respect. Ryobi is cheaper too if you actually shop with the constant sales and don’t pay full MSRP.

>>2664131
Ryobi is only 18v. Pro tools like dewalt are 20v, but the cheaper kobalt are already at 24v over dewalt.
The choice is obvi.

I am building a 12x18 deck and bought a Dewalt Rotary Hammer to drill into the existing concrete footers.

Did I go majorly overkill? I figured I will use the hammer function in the future but would a standard hammer drill have worked? Everything I read says they are small-time compared to a rotary hammer

>>2662761
Based lidl tools enjoyer

>>2663861
fuck no nigga.

>>2662755
Can confirm. Ryobi's upper tier tools are solid or on par with the other well known brands. Their low end models are frustratingly worthless including the complaint in the OP.

>>2662641
Bro just grind three flat spots onto your drill bit until it'd vaguely hex-shaped. Way more holding power. It's basic geometry. Doesn't matter how crappy your chuck is, it will hold just fine.

>>2664369
Retarded.

>>2664865
How big of a hole are you drilling? If you’re keeping it under 3/8”, hammer drill will get it done fine. But if you have to do a ton of holes >1/4”, the SDS will be way faster.

>>2662755
That chuck is still a piece of shit! Anyone praising ryobi one plus as good must not use their shit that often

>>2666683
Yard tools get used once a week minimum and they’re doing great.

>>2666698
My string trimmer eats 3 batteries in 15-20 minutes.

>>2666754
Don’t use old 1.5 batteries on a trimmer than.

They do run through batteries, but I can trim and edge the whole yard on a single 4.0. That’s a little bit bigger 15” HP stringer too and those batteries get nice and warm

>>2666683
>>2666698
I also have a couple of the yard tools (hedge trimmer and blower) and they work just fine. I've never drained the batteries fully even after a comprehensive annual prune + trim + clean.

>>2662641
so... replace the chuck? it's what I did, then found out I wasn't using the chuck right.

>>2662641
You can buy replacement chucks. Not ideal on a brand new drill but.....
I used to put the 1/2 chuck on 3/8 inch air drills BITD for reasons.

Also old garage sale electric drills are under used and a good source for used chucks

>>2663645
Maybe
Line up does seemlimited

>>2663861
I've heard good things about these. But are they good enough for everyday use if you're thinking about going into construction

>>2664369
The 18v/20v is a marketing gimmick. E.g. the 18v post type battery from dewalt, can be swapped with a dewalt slide-on battery with post adapter, for the same effect.

Internally, they have the same number of cells. Lithium has a higher open-circuit voltage, that rapidly drops to a constant output when under load, to a drop-off near the end. It's like 3.7v per cell vs 4.2v.

>>2664131
> ohs nos you 'bought' into x
I bought a Bauer medium hammer drill, as needed to set some holes in concrete, immediately, and that was what was available.
I've used milwaukee and dewalt in trades. However, for me, for the time being, I just needed a couple of basics for intermittent use. Could not cost-justify anything else.

Dewalt batteries are universal, so I standardized on that. It's more important to standardize on the battery platform. Adapters are available from dewalt to everything else.

>>2667237
>bought a Bauer medium hammer drill

Does it work any good

>>2667282
Yeah. I mean it's a budget drill. A DeWalt 18v with a post-to-slide battery adapter beats it's pants when cutting 6" hole-saw holes in 1/4" panel. The Bauer got too warm after two. The DeWalt didn't get detectably warm until the last one, with about 8 done already.

OTOH at a site, last week, a bosch plug-in hammer drill was brought in by a carpenter. It was straight old variable speed. It ran too fast on 3/16's bits. Burned them up. Then, I remembered that the Bauer had a hammer function. With the transmission to run it at slower speeds, and it's a lower RPM drill altogether, it was able to penetrate the 8,000PSI concrete.

So, it's ok for regular home use. If you were any kind of contractor: no. Daily tradie: no. That's why the tradies here are shitting on the brand: it will just fall to pieces under daily jobs that require Trades level performance. Definitely a 'home user' tool. As someone suggested, Ryobi would be a better buy for the same money.

I have all brushless ryobi 40v yard equipment: the mower ($50), the pole saw ($60), and the chainsaw ($99). I bought the generic 6ah 40v clone batteries, but original 'slow' ryobi chargers. OP403. I'm not down on Ryobi.. I started with tools from random places. Since getting the various ryobi yard tools, it seems that DirectToolsOutlet regularly has good deals on the tools. Although I bought the mower at a thrift store, and the pole saw and chainsaw from ebay. The pole saw attaches onto the head unit of any ryobi power unit; e.g. the strimmer (oh, I have that too! $75) is the 40v brushless, and has the Expand-It system.

If you're a tradie starting out, I would go with Ryobi. However, I would also grab a few Waitley generic dewalt 6ah batteries. It's because, when I'm working under someone, he inevitably has hand-me-down Dewalts. Sometimes with the older post-type/18v. Having a couple of GOOD batteries, with a $7 adapter for post, will save your ass when what he gives you used-up old dewalt pancake batteries.

>>2666698
awh yes the coscto reel.

>>2667629
Hell yeah I impulse bought that bitch. It’s perfect for running from the generator to the hallway upstairs.

I almost impulse bought a pressure washer too. They had Husqvarna pressure washers, a gas and an electric, and the gas model was on clearance for like $150 and should’ve easily been a $350+ washer, it was actually cheaper than the electric one that was half the power. I passed though because my little Ryobi electric guy is so compact and gets the job done fine, wasn’t worth the storage space for the once every 2-3 years I really want the extra power of the gas one. If I didn’t already own the Ryobi, I would’ve jumped on it.

>>2664865
Sometimes hammer drills will get into the concrete. The SDS hammer will always get into concrete and masonry fast. You can do demo chipping with it. It's nice for running conduit. I guess if you're just doing one job, I'd rent but if you run into this every so often then the bigger tool is more than worth it.

>bought a drill
>realized it won't accept a handle due to its design just after return period run out

>>2662641
replace the chuck?

>>2663837
is he sucking the tip?

>>2662761
Based

>>2663206
God I've had this thing on my wishlist forever but they changed the color from based yellow to cringe green

>>2662641
Ridgid only because lifetime warranty

When is Ryobi going to 40v their work tools? They already have the 40v platform.

>>2668709
Their 40v isn't flex volt and they also need soft lipo batteries to get a 40v small enough to use in a most handheld tools

>>2668709
The batteries are hueg, not many tools that you would want those 20-cell packs on. Would only make sense for stationary tools or maybe like a pro level SDS Max but Ryobi isn’t making that.

>>2663837
UwU?

>>2668679
Here the warranty claim process is a bitch tho

>chuck
Seriously why is it called this? Any time someone says this word at work all I can think of is sneed memes.

>>2668960
Yeah, call it something sensible like Zahnkranzbohrfutter.

>>2668713
> not flex volt (e.g. can run ryobi 18/20v tools)
> soft lipo
None of the work tool batteries are regular lithium or lipoly tmk. And 'soft'? I would just get newer, heavy-duty tools that can run on the 40v packs.
>>2668728
Good points. I would use such an SDS :)

>>2669084
I was complaining about the weight/bulk of the 40v packs.

The RYOBI 40v packs start at like 4 pounds. You want to drive screws all day with a 6 pound drill when you could use a 1 or 2 instead?

>>2669112
A bosch style sds plus? Yes.

>>2662755
They might not be as good as milfuckee but it's good enough for tradie shit...especially since mexicans and druggies keep stealing shit

>>2662641
>>2662641
>Chuck is a piece of shit in your path.
I have an older one, but I can't seem to get the chuck off to replace it. Anyone have any ideas?

>>2669141
That’s what I’m saying. A $199 Ryobi 40V SDS Plus/Max would be fucking sweet, but that’s not really their market.

Trying to think what other tools would be good on the Ryobi 40V platform, they already sell an 18V 10” miter saw and that could be cool on 40V. The Ryobi shop vaca for sure would be great with a 40V pack. 8-1/4” or 10” table saw as well? They sell a big fan that could be good on 40V, and a big area light could be cool.

>>2669201
The soldering iron and hot glue gun on 18v is kinda dumb. All the vacuums should switch to 40v/multiple 40v except for the dust buster

>>2669141
Bruh I thought you were saying they should start phasing out 18v/one plus for 40v.

Which I wouldn't hate if they also introduced a tiny 40v battery

>>2669229
Soldering irons and hot glue guns don’t even pull that much power, that’s one of the last things I would expect them to use 40V batteries for. Even corded glue guns take a bit to heat up.

>>2669201
There's a 40v 10 gallon wet/dry vac. But that little one on wheels would be handy to have as 40v. There's also a 40v LED work/area light that slides onto a 40v pack.

>>2669201
Works on either AC or a 40v battery.

Can't find it for less than $200 so far. Referred to as an 'air cannon'. 14", whisper series. So... brushless.

The light I mentioned earlier might be aftermarket. Looks good though and it's $20 on ebay.