/diy/ - Do It Yourself

But does Milwaukee have a coffee maker that you can bring anywhere you go? Hehehe.

>>2648280
How is that useful?

>>2648280
There are six Dunkin' Donuts on my path to and from any job. Get on my level

>>2648275
Best tool is the one you steal

>>2648275
You seem like a reasonable and well adjusted person.

You should get far far far away from here.

>>2648284
>he doesn't drink coffee

I bet you don't smoke either you fucking faggot. How the fuck else are you supposed to blow off work 5 minutes at a time?

>>2648333
It's called energy drinks and shitting/cursing cause you dropped another thing.

>>2648333
>>2648345
the first thing I do every single morning is take a swig from the iced coffee in my fridge (I buy it at the store by the gallon, and I get the blacker-than-black kind, unlike some queers I know) and smoke a marlboro red 100. seven and a half minutes later, I am sitting on the porcelain throne, every morning, without interruption or delay, as the sun rises. as that great star peers into my humble hovel, I am evacuating the remnants of the previous day's excesses. having a shit on a regular schedule is an important aspect of a man's life, and I grateful for the assistance of both caffeine and nicotine. the devil may have cursed us with an intestine, but it is by God's grand design that we may have offset this bleak fate with but a handful of charming plants, readily available at every supermarket, gas station, and that buddy who owes you $20 anyway so basically anything he has is yours when you really think about it.

Green brand > yellow brand > blue brand > red brand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every other brand

It is known.

i wonder if blackrock owns all of these brands

>>2648365
When was the last time you had the kind of sex with a woman where she looked at you before, during, and afterwards with the kind of intense passion, longing, and commitment that you truly desire? When did she say (note the time on the provided sheet) "I love you, and I can't imagine being with anyone else?"

>>2648365
Blackrock owns everything, so... yeah.

>>2648390
I just nut on her stomach and tell her to clean it up

>>2648275
Your bosses only want to buy and manage one type of battery.

>>2648280
>red makita
this is fucking with me

>>2648402
It's shooped.

>>2648280
Sure, if you want weak coffee, that only brews 5 oz at a time, and each cup eats a third of a 5AH 18V battery.

>>2648402
> makita red
Made in japan for japanese people.
And you don’t get them.
Because giving them to you is like throwing it away.

>>2648275
I've been using Makita for years now because the red tools were more expensive and nobody had parts for them here where I live in Europe
They only started selling them commonly last year here and more and more repair shops are starting to keep parts in stock for them, but I already have 50+ Makita tools and a whole shelf of just batteries for them, so I won't be making the switch, but from what I've heard they're pretty dang good

Russian component, American component. All made in Taiwan!

>>2648275
What’s the warranty like on that boy? No lifetime service agreement? Too bad

>>2648639
It’s not worth making the switch between Milwaukee-Makita-DeWalt-Bosch once you’re already invested in a brand unless you really need those plumbing tools that Milwaukee sells or you can’t live without the Makita 18V coffee maker. They’re all so damn close in performance across all the main tools. If one brand has the best version right now, just give it 6 months and another brand will beat it.

But if you need a PEX crimper and a coffee maker, you may need 2 different chargers.

>>2648275
>love the red tools more than anything else, red tools make my cock rock solid and jizz immediately with no touch
>make a thread on /diy/ with gossamer thin pretence that I dont care about having the red tools
>Insult users of other tools while pretending to be above such silliness
Good try op but I'm too clever and saw straight through your shenanigans.
The simple fact is that due to red tools being overwhelming overrepresented in usa market, red tool users are actually factually proven by scientific study peer reviewed to be clinical retarded sorry buddy.

The Chinese make a Ridgid to Makita adapter so you can use your LSA batteries on the Makita coffee maker. It works great on it and the kettle. Only use 4ah or better.

Ridgid adapters work because of Ridgid's low voltage cutoff being in the battery.

>>2648811
Between the coffee maker and just using a thermos after you make your coffee at home, the thermos* is way better anyways.

*Or Yeti/RTIC/knockoff tumbler

>>2648280
seems retarded. propane burner and a french press would be cheaper and better

So craftsman is shit huh? Why?

>>2648275
You and I think alike OP.
I can tell you're a good one.

>>2648275
>>discover brand wars, youtube reviews, thousands of decibels of whining and misery, an entire culture of personalities and persons who build everything they have ever had around a made-in-china tool
Substituting consumer choices for a personality.

>>2648810
Yoooo dis nigga got like $2k and some kraut pliers

>>2648810
that's the ugliest bank I've ever seen, you should move your money to wells fargo

>>2648284
its useful to makita so you get suckered into buying 12 of their batteries

>>2648989
It’s a weekender brand on par with Ryobi, but Ryobi has way more options so I would take baby turd green over red.

They’re not bad though.

>>2649028
And Newports*

>>2649092
Akchually, I do use Wells, but you gotta have some garage cash

>>2648810
Ridgid and Milwauke have the same parent company.

>>2648810
>orange ridgid
gross.

>>2648390
Yesterday, she works at Blackrock that's why I'm asking

>>2649154
Really? This is news to me! I know Ryobi is exactly the same as Milwaukee but colored green and cheaper, but I didn’t know Ridgid was an orange Milwaukee with a better warranty!

>>2649157
Hell yea bby

>>2649159
Does anybody here have a 401k with Fidelity? My shit is stuck in a Blackrock account with Fidelity and I wanted to swap to something besides the Big 3, but all of the options are Blackrock, one of the other big firms, or some goofy short term shit or company stock. I wish I had the option to swap it over to Vivek’s fund easily through Fidelity.

Youve not experienced the FLEX battery life yet. These niglets battery power lasts stupid long.

>>2648288
Spoken like a genuine Nignog!

>>2648365
>i wonder if blackrock owns all of these brands

The only 'Black Rock' you should be worried about is the 8 inches of it that the UPS guy put into your wife, while you were out at the job site!

>>2648414
You fucking pussies! Where's your goddamn bubba keg?!

>>2648810
>cigs
Man, unless you can DIY an EVAR, TURBT or VATS you should quit that shit.

>>2649154
That does not however make them clones. Product differentiation is real. See reviews like those on Torque Test Channel (the unmeasured is unknown) to refine your search.

>>2648989
I wouldn't fuck with their cordless shit, their corded and hand tools are good. Dewalt is the manufacturer, and lowes continues its lifetime warranty. That being said there is a distinct difference in quality between old craftsman and new craftsman

>>2648989
Shut down the american plant in texas for hand tools.

>>2648390
10 years ago maybe, and ill do it again later this year. I dont love her but she loves me, weird situation for an incel. Its weird to be someone's oneitis, i put up with her because shes extremely nice. I have been overseas since then.

>>2649006
Yeah what the fuck, I just use whatever tool I buy cheap. If it breaks, I learned my lesson and pay for it by buying a high grade tool. If it doesn't then awesome, got a keeper for cheap. I still have a trusty ryobi drill that has been fucking abused for 6 years and still works fine

>>2648275
i don't own any of their stuff, but they're a pro-2A company, so I like em.

>>2649356
>there is a distinct difference in quality between old craftsman and new craftsman
What do you mean? Lowe’s is better?

Because old Craftsman hasn’t been any good since the 90s, and even then all the Taiwan tool brands are easily as good as the later US Craftsman. Craftsman was going downhill even while a lot of their stuff was still US made.

I think I would take a new Stanley era Craftsman wrench set over a late 00s Seara Craftsman wrench set.

>>2648275
>every tool I have is a Milwaukee

You're probably an electrician

>>2649452
The lowes handtools seems worse, except for the sockets and only the sockets. I think they were able to save the old tooling to produce their sockets, which are solid. For ratchets I just use gearwrench

>>2648275
I work underground, mining where the water is ten times saltier than the ocean and it gets muddier than a Scottish moor. We use Milwaukee, Ryobi and Dewalt in our mine. Our crew uses Milwaukee only; recips, rattleguns, grinders, bandsaws, drills mostly. After seeing the punishment our tools take on a daily basis, and still perform over time, I'd only buy red. Price is up there, but dilligaf if I can get a tool caked in pastefill and have it continue to work over time.

Like goddam good.

>>2649465
>save the old tooling for their sockets
Ehh, I doubt it. Sears Craftsman never actually manufactured their own tools, the stuff was contracted out to whatever factory in Asia. But then it went to SB&D, so unless the Stanley factory was making the Sears sockets, then the Lowe’s Craftsman is being made at whatever SB&D factory makes the DeWalt and Stanley sockets.

I don’t own much Lowe’s Craftsman, but the few things I have bought seem nicer than the late Sears Craftsman. SB&D Craftsman’s adjustable wrenches are def nicer than the late Sears stuff. The late Sears shit was like the bare minimum quality they could get from Asian factories and still sell with the warranty.

>>2648275
I bought a RYOBI drill bit set similar to this and each of the bits I used are covered in rust now, after FOUR days. It's so fucking crazy.

>>2649644

>>2649644
Yeah, you got ripped off, but at least you were ripped off for much. That hole saw looks like trash and only has one size, the countersink is garbage, and I bet those bits would go dull in only a few uses.

At the cheaper end, DeWalt actually makes drill bits that outperform a lot of high-end brands. If you think you'll need hole saws you can't go wrong with Milwaukee. If you need clean holes larger than 1/2" Diablo Forstners are a good choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgQeSrsAXgE

These are a way better countersink: https://www.harborfreight.com/countersink-and-deburring-tool-set-3-piece-61629.html?_br_psugg_q=countersink+set

These are also super handy: https://www.harborfreight.com/hinge-drill-bit-set-3-piece-61550.html?_br_psugg_q=self-centering+drill+press+jig

>>2649697
>but at least you were ripped off for much
*weren't

>>2649644
Ryobi consumables suck. The rust isn’t rare if you store them somewhere humid, but sounds like they didn’t put any oily coating on them before they sold them.

Next time buy DeWalt or Milwaukee bits and such. Ryobi tools are straight but their bits and stuff are basically bargain bin Harbor Freight quality.

>>2649697
I actually have an old blue Ryobi bit set that isn’t too horrible. It’s good to bring along with the go-bag when I’m not sure if I will need to send a hole into masonry or wood or metal. I think the newer Ryobi bits and blades are a lot worse than they used to be.

>>2648355
based and peristalsis-pilled

>>2648280
I drink import monsters, not beaner piss. I have to work work two and a half hours just to cover my monster bill for the day.

>>2648275
The shop assigned me one of those electric knockout tools for a job I’m running, as well as the cordless rotary hammer drill.

I’m used to the hydraulic hand pump knockout tools but this thing is tits, I still don’t know how I feel about the quick disconnect style setup though (in OPs picture)

>>2648280
these are all OEM and re-branded
you should never do anything other than go with the cheapest one with any of those brands

>>2650360
>these are all OEM and reabranded
No. Retarded. Anon posted a Makita, not a HiJizzPro or Vixxyon from Amazon.

>>2648275
>the red tools
Hilti?

>>2648416
this; red makita is Japan market, and generally considered better, since they are making the tools for their own kind, rather than the blue makita, which is made for dirty gaijin.

>>2649262
So ive heard, seriously considering dumping my Craftsman stuff for it

>>2651520
>Lowe’s shoppers
Hopefully that brand hangs around.

Also for any given pack, like a 5.0Ah Flex pack vs 5.0Ah DeWalt or Craftsman, the Flex is going to have 20% more runtime because it has 20% more cells, which means that Flex battery is actually longer.

If you’re using Craftsman, why do you need some 100Wh+ packs anyway? DIYers are probably better off with mostly smaller packs and a couple large ones for saws and stuff.

Also if you have Craftsman packs on the Sears era shit or they’re 5+ years old, then the brand new Flex 6Ah pack with 3 cycles on it is definitely going to last longer

>>2651972
Flex doesn't have much of a selection of tools yet, though, and is just as expensive as DeWalt and Milwaukee.

Your runtime calculation might be off since it uses 24V batteries, not 18.

>>2648811
>between Milwaukee-Makita-DeWalt-Bosch
Confirmed Bosch owner. No Milly, DeWalt, or Makita user would include that piece of shit brand beside those three good ones

>>2652000
The runtime calculation is taking the extra 20% into account.

And Flex isn’t really 24V, it’s like how DeWalt and Craftsman say “20V MAX” but they’re 18V nominal aka 5x 3.6V cells.

Flex and Kobalt “24V” is 6 cells in series, same as Hilti except Hilti claims the closer to the truth “22V”, it’s actually 3.6V x 6 so 21.6V nominal. There’s your extra 20% over 18V. When the packs are fully charged, it’s a little over 4V per cell which is how they call them 24V and 20V MAX.

>>2652391
Bosch isn’t bad, it’s just retarded to own their cordless stuff if you’re a burger because you need to go to Lowe’s to find their tools and they only sell like 5 different 18V tools there.

>>2652505
I like my corded Bosch 5" random orbit sander, but I sure as hell wouldn't get their cordless stuff.

>>2648275
You sound like an NPC sheeple desu famalam

>>2652533
Battery powered tools will always be a meme

>>2652577
Nope. Just the fact I don't need to wrangle cords or hunt for outlets on my DeWalt drill, driver, 1/2 gallon vac, and now a jigsaw have been fantastic.

I just don't see any use case for the sander away from a workbench and outlet.

>>2648280
I've put my Makita tools through hell with no issues. I also enjoy how it confuses and angers retards

>>2652505
> lowes for bosch
Nay. I got my Bosch hammer drill from the HD pro section, not the little retail area with the fluorescent green shit. They had like 5 or six models. Generally big ones.
Anyway, it sucks ass compared to my hilti which grew legs.

>>2652577
Tel us you never leave the shop without telling us you never leave the shop. I can cut the nose off a wrecked Silverado on one battery including severing frame tubes with my DeWalt cordless recip saw or my bros slightly weaker M18 Milwaukee and have battery and blade left over.

Air tool mobility is poor so they're mostly used with tire service trucks having big air. Dragging hoses sucks and if you don't have a proper industrial compressor it sorely limits impacts. I can't carry my compressor into a salvage yard and CO2 cylinders don't run tools for long (I mostly use those for tires in the field). I have two industrial 5HP compressors I picked up for blasting connected to a large industrial receiver tank and despite having plenty of air tools I mostly use cordless when wrenching.

>>2652667
Corded ones, right? Read the post you quoted again.

>>2649154
It's kind of amazing what has happened over the course of the last 20yrs.

>>2649154
Ayyyyy.....

>>2648356
>Green brand
Yep, love my Ryobi

>>2648976
Hadn't seen you post your cigs much lately. I was hoping you had cut back on that stuff.

You should make a thread and do a photoshoot of that truck.

>>2648810

>>2653857
Oops
can't post.

what does /diy/ think about bosch? expensive premium brand a la apple or actually worth the money?

>>2654102
Used a couple of their tools.
Seemed fine. Would put them up there with the standard makita,dewalt, milwaukee range.
Of course made in germany stuff would be higher.
Honestly the only tools that really disappointed me were cheap ass Harbor freight.

>>2654102
Same as other anon said. It’s dumb to get their 18V stuff in the US because their selection of tools is lacking and DeWalt-Makita-Milwaukee are just as good.

If you are looking at their corded tools, the Bosch Bulldog SDS line is well-regarded, probably second only to Hilti, but the other brands have good options too. Their routers are pretty popular, and some people love their miter saws but others complain about the over-engineered robot arm mechanism getting sloppy, I would probably grab the DeWalt sliding 12” saw over the Bosch because it goes on sale often for like $300 less and that saw is used on so many jobsites all over the world.

>>2648810
Holy shit dude that must be like 2k in cash! Are you rich?

>>2649357
Damn

My dad gave me some nice ratchet sets and wrenches and shit from craftsman growing up..

If I need a tool for a single job I just buy it and return it after.

>>2654130
Rent it you fucking asshole.

Just use a porter cable

>>2654130
I keep tools because it turns out none are better off being returned vs. the convenience of owning over many future uses and opportunities to benefit from them. The old custom of buying a tool no matter how small every payday is wise.

So is ensuring easy mobility via wheeled (use decent sized casters) boxes and cabinets. One can never have too many hand trucks or carts of quality.

>>2654129
>nice ratchet sets from Craftsman
Oh boy, if you ever get your hands on a Gearwrench ratchet or any recent Taiwan ratchet, the Craftsman ratchets will be second backups.

>>2654148
Basically dead brand.

>>2654128
If you think that’s a lot of money, ask how much the Knipex cost!

>>2654145
>>2654293
I think he’s trolling at this point. Although a lot of people do it and they’re selfish scumbags in all aspects of life so don’t even try to argue since they don’t care about anybody but themselves.

>>2654293
>One can never have too many hand trucks or carts of quality.
That was one of the big selling points for me of the Dewalt Toughsystem over other modular systems. The hand truck is fucking ultra beefy and all metal. Milwaukee should be embarrassed they charge $40 more for that flimsy plastic POS.

Jamstands makes great 4-wheel carts that fold up really nice, too.

thanks but project Senpai showed why you go Milwaukee

I got someone's set of Kobalt power tools at a yard sale a while back, what's the general consensus on them? They've served me perfectly well when I had to screw together a raised planter bed or bookshelf. A little rusty but that's fine.

>Milwaukee M12 tools for service and finish work
>DeWalt 20v and 60v tools for big boy stuff like demo and framing
Am I doing it wrong?
t. Restorationfag that also does a lot of HVAC and plumbing also

>>2655046
If the tiny tools are specifically what you need for those tasks? Eh, not really.It's not like 12V batteries from either brand are compatible with their 18/20V tools.

>>2655059
The smaller size it nice for control and precise work especially in tight spots. Milwaukees M12 installation driver is god teir. I also really like their m12 hackzall and jigsaw. Borrowed an electricians M12 multi tool awhile back and really liked it compared to my DeWalt.

>>2648355
>and that buddy who owes you $20 anyway so basically anything he has is yours when you really think about it.
Jew detected. An honorable man does not let such pettiness affect his relationships.

>>2655029
Kobalt and Ridgid are similar, they’re store brand that give you DeWalt performance for a little bit less money, but the drawback is their lineup isn’t nearly as big as the main brands like DeWalt and Milwaukee.

>>2655046
Sure, as long as you’re not an idiot who owns all M12 because you wanted Milwaukee for <$200 and now you go around shilling the stubby impact saying it can do everything you would want an impact wrench for when it’s about as strong as an 18V impact driver.

>>2655063
The M12 multitool is one of the few tools where that battery design really shines. Same with the ratchet and die grinders and stuff. Makes me wonder why Makita killed off that style and went to the slide pack like DeWalt, especially when Makita doesn’t even have multi-volt 12/18V chargers like DeWalt.

Makita is absolutely the worst with battery compatibility and foresight compared to the other brands. 36V tools and 40V? So fucking stupid, plus some of the 40V is literally the same as the 18V LXT models like the main drill, and not all 18V LXT packs will fit all 18V LXT tools, there are some smaller like 2.0Ah packs IIRC that can’t be used with some tools.

>>2655122
>that give you DeWalt performance
Maybe, if you're lucky with the right tool, but they won't last as long.

>>2655141
Ridgid and Kobalt both have a better warranty than DeWalt, so if they really were lesser quality and dying faster, that can’t be good for the bottom line of these companies.

>>2655294
Rigid is a service agreement, not a warranty. So they'll have the tool repaired, not replaced. The 731 Woodworks guy's Rigid trim router Magic Smoked on him during normal use, they repaired it for him, but still smelled burned out.

Considering that DeWalt is an actual pro tier brand, they're also typically getting used harder and a lot more than Rigid and Kobalt. Those two end up in DIYer hands that usually don't push them enough to kill them, so the warranty can look better.

>>2655349
You’re off on your market a little bit. If I get an email from Ryobi, it’s going to be a bunch of DIYer types in the graphics, same with Craftsman and such. Ridgid is much closer to DeWalt in their target market going for contractors and handymen. They sold a “jobsite blower” for a long time before they ever put out a leaf blower and trimmer for the weekenders. All of their corded tools are def more contractor focused than DIYer, the mobile saw stands and shit as well.

>>2655349
>>2655366
Kobalt is probably a little more DIYer focused though, like 50/50, because the stuff is sold at Lowe’s where the wives shop for new appliances.

>>2648280
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>>2655541
I would never use these on anything other than a real low draw or low demand tool like a light or radio or some bullshit. And you better double check how your batteries work because you may brick some batteries if you leave that fan on too long and it’s one of the brands that builds the low voltage cutoff into the tool and not the battery.

Also dogshit ergonomics and you’re never going to get full power out of high demand tools using those because the Chinesium contacts will have more resistance than stock, especially if you have the high output batteries.

>>2655544
>Also dogshit ergonomics and you’re never going to get full power out of high demand tools using those because the Chinesium contacts will have more resistance than stock, especially if you have the high output batteries.

as someone who has used multiple types of battery adapters and even made my own, this is all bullshit.

the only thing I would worry about is that non makita batteries often do not have a low voltage cut off.

>>2655568
>this is all bullshit
Guarantee you won’t get full power if you actually tested it on most of these brushless high power tools that want the MAX/XR/HP packs. There’s a big difference in power at the top end with the right setup and those adapters def aren’t going to support that.

And it’s definitely worse ergonomics, if you can even use the adapters on certain tools with odd battery placement.

And my third point was the low voltage, also temp management and stuff, and you agreed with that. You can’t disagree with any of those points objectively, the adapters are a compromise in many ways.

>>2655568
>>2655544
I concur with 568: it's bullshit. I've had a poor quality adapter the first time, and it was 'homemade' with some kind of weak plastic, before these became mainstream. My current one is fine. The tabs/contacts were not an issue.

With the caveat that 568 brings up: for sure, Dewalt batteries do not have a LVD (low voltage shutoff). They are as dumb as can be. Balancing and LVD is done by the charger/tool.

Practically speaking, if you are using a power tool battery on a makita and the battery is presumed to have an LVD, and it does not, and the adapter doesn't, then the Drill etc is going to run down to a point, where it has poor performance, and before you kill it, you will naturally stop using it and put it on the charger.

Where LVD is more critical, is if you are using a low-load continuous draw, with a direct load off of a cradle, that gives you direct access to the pack's power. That LVD board is the XH-M609.