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Is it OK to use nitrocellulose lacquer over an oil based stain? Finishing a guitar.

>> No.2623627

>>2623582
you might want to do some googling
it's okay to use nitro over shellac but idk about oil based stuff

>> No.2623648

>>2623582
You can but the stain should be bone dry (like a few days) and there's still a risk that the solvent in the lacquer might soften and cause some of the pigments to migrate causing spots, streaking and other unevenness...for that reason it's probably safest to use a layer of shellac to seal the stain from the nitro.
But a lot depends on the porosity of the wood, its color, the stain color and how skillfully you apply the lacquer, darker stains on light wood are where you might expect bad things to happen. Best bet is to always make a test piece with materials you aren't familiar with.

>> No.2623656

>>2623648
It's alder, so not very porous. The oil based stain I have is black, I think I'm just going to buy some new shit though so there's no problems. Should I go for water or alcohol based you think?

>> No.2623854

No. Use a water based stain instead. Spray with distilled water to raise the grain, lightly buff, spray on stain then finish with anything you want, why not try a French polish?

>> No.2623855

Redpill me on nitro finishes. I've always been a polyurethane man myself but I'm interested in expanding my wheelhouse

>> No.2623960

>>2623855
It's supposed to age better, gives the guitar a retro look, cause they used nitro up until the 70s I think. People say shit about tone and other mumbo jumbo but I don't think it's true, cool finish nonetheless.

>> No.2623996

>>2623855
Nitrocellulose is repairable (a new layer dissolves into the previous). No not clean it with silicone oils (eg pledge).

Oil base polyurethane is not as easily repairable, but it’s the toughest shit you can imagine. The oil based stuff is, anyway. I’ve got a kitchen table ainted in poly that’s coming up to 50 years now, and still in mint condition.