/diy/ - Do It Yourself

I bet Bepis has a full set of those.

>>2603702
probably never been used lmao

It was so you could pry with the claw with the handle at different angles. It disappeared as an idea because it was a fairly unnecessary feature that added a pretty big drawback of making the connection between the head and handle loose and weak compared to a normal hammer.

I've seen a recent re-imagining of this idea with hammers that have adjustable claws, but it still feels like a pretty worthless feature that introduces unnecessary weak points to the tool.

>>2603702
>>2603705
Closest thing is the adjustable pry bar, they’re stronger than you would expect and they make a good back scratcher.

>>2603859
They’re not nearly as weak as you would thing. I was looking at them online and was really expecting the 30”+ models to have a lot of pics of assploded guts, but I guess they figured it out.

>>2603702
Bepis doesnt even own that many tools.

>>2603881
I did finally upgrade my hammer last year. Couldn’t pass when it was like $20 with a flat bar

>>2603905
>> Milwaukee hand tools

You are such a goddamn faggot.

>>2603910
It was $20 or $25 for a decent framing hammer and a flat pry bar.

I got no complaints from any of it. I like the material they use for their grips a lot. The pliers aren’t as nice as Knipex and shit, but when a truck breaks down and you don’t have tools but there’s a Home Depot across the street, the Milwaukee gets the job done.

>>2603910
Milwaukee is bringing back 100% made in the USA hand tools soon from a brand new factory.
Their hand tools are just OK right now, but will be pretty awesome soon.

>>2603937
It’s like 5 pairs of pliers and a screwdriver set they’re going to make in the US. We’ll see what they cost.

I was tempted by their socket sets, but they cost a lot for Asian made tools and it’s hard to justify that cost when you can get a nice Gearwrench set for less or drop a few more bucks on SK or something else US made.

Their wrenches look decent, they’re the same as HF’s Icon and Napa’s old Carlyle which are both pretty good. But once again, if I were going to upgrade my US made Craftsman and Gearwrench stuff, I would jump up to Wright or Williams instead of paying $$$ for Asian wrenches.

>>2603937
Honestly though theyre garbage. Milwaukee hand tools are garbage trash that barely lasts a year.

>>2604001
What have you actually used and burnt through in under a year?

Ahh they’re available for preorder! Because people have been clamoring for more USA made tools and just what we needed is another brand of linesman pliers! The Kleins and Southwires and Ideals and Channellocks just didn’t cut it, I really need something to match my Packout boxes.

>>2604013
They didn’t even keep the grips from the Asian made ones, the only thing I prefer about them compared to the competition.

>>2603937
> made in usa
I’ll believe that when I see it. I don’t want to see the “assembled in usa” out of “global materials” which means 99.99% made in china.
They probably just put the “made in usa” sticker on.
In germany, they get the exact same unmarked tool and put “made in germany” stickers on.
I want to see the fuckin furnace where they melt the steel. Otherwise pakistan has them beat, where they *do* forge everything themselves. They should send over a couple of guys to take notes how to make stuff from a country who’s engineering and manufacturing prowess lords over north america’s.

>>2604049
Supposedly it’s from US steel

*owned by TTI Hong Kong

Also Klein has been pissing me off in recent years. Ever since I got a 2pk of 11-in-1 drivers that were Hecho en Mexico and the soft black grips seem more hard and sharp and not 100% secured to the hard yellow plastic underneath compared to my regular US made Klein drivers.

Ignore this post. Its just to keep it time framed because I know a faggot from another thread will predictably answer one of the following answers: 1.You liar liar of the fucking brethren. 2.You cant model bad baaaaaad 3. I am a flaming fucking faggot.

>>2604049
The linesmen pliers were what i wore out the quickest. They were cheaper than the kliens though, so i cant complain about the price. The rest of the tools just didnt last long with daily use.

>The Kleins and Southwires and Ideals and Channellocks just didn’t cut it, I really need something to match my Packout boxes.
you joke but brand loyalty is real and knows no limits

>how do you use a hammer
The absolute state of this board

>>2604001
>burn through shitty ones in 1 year
>justify spending money on a good set
It's the Harbor Freight rule, what's the problem here?

>>2604360
Yeah but the Milwaukee stuff isn’t the cheapest. It’s among the most expensive on the tool aisle without going to electrical or plumbing and grabbing Klein or Ridgid.

They don’t seem that shitty to me, not sure what anon did to the linesmans. I would prefer Knipex but they’re better than Husky and far better than Harbor Freight. I actually abuse those Milwaukees from time to time and haven’t rolled the teeth on steel like the cheap shit.

>>2604360
Harbor Freight hand tools are mostly pretty good.

>>2605549
>mostly pretty good
Until you try a decent brand, even mid range stuff, and you realize it’s not normal for grips to slip off pliers.

It’s cheap for a reason, so figure out if you can deal with a cheap shitty version of that tool before buying it. Some stuff, it’s ok, but not good.

>>2604049
>pakistan
This is the country with a 50% inbreeding rate, right?

>>2604013
nta, but I bought a milwaukee hammer and the thing is shit. FYI I have all milwaukee cordless
Estwing 4 life niggers

>>2604049
All you need is 60% of final price tag and you can call it made in europe; plenty cases you can do that just by adding retail packaging.

>>2604049
>I don’t want to see the “assembled in usa” out of “global materials” which means 99.99% made in china.
The united states has some of the strictest country of origin laws, its laid out in plain text if you look it up on the FTC website.

Assembled in the USA requires all of the major assembly to be done in the USA. This doesnt include packaging.

Made in the USA of Global Materials requires the final transformative manufacturing of raw materials and subsequent assemble to be done in the united states. The raw materials can just be foreign. You can have incidental things be foreign (like wheels on a rolling tool chest).
This doesnt include packaging.

Made in the USA (with no "built" or "global materials" qualifier) requires all raw material to be made in the USA, and all of the transformative and assembly to be in the USA.
This also doesnt include packaging so yes your 100% made in the USA tool can come in a clamshell made of chinese plastic if they so desired.

The laws were far less strict in the 90s, people bent the rules a lot more.
Obama of all people cracked down and the FTC laws were rewritten and got far stricter.

The Milwaukee factory tools are going to be 100% Made in the USA, for better or for worse.
I hope it takes off and they bring out a whole line to take over where Craftsman once stood, seeing how Craftsman themselves arent going to do it.

>>2606195
I always find it interesting, yurps dont seem to give one flying fuck about country of origin.
Ill see people on youtube talk about how great some absolute random chinkshit it. Its very odd.

Same with that Linus Tech Tips faggot with aids.
He claimed he could badge the megapro screwdriver he sells as made in canada, even though the mechanism and shaft and bits were all made in china. Only the handle was made in canada, he just didnt want to pay to get it certified and didnt think it was a big deal.

He didnt seem to think that telling everyone his shit is chinese would matter, when its competing against Snap On, 100% made in the USA, for the same exact price.
Baffling.

>>2606172
Pakistan is the unholy alliance Indians and Muslims.

>>2606206
Brainwashed zombies don't usually give a fuck about much of anything.
Otoh, speaking about this country (Portugal) specifically, people, actually do care - sort of - unfortunately not enough to become militants over it, or even to just actually trying to figure out what's actually what.
Then there's money (or the lack thereof) and a sparcity of genuine brands to identify with.
Still there's been quite a few (hopelessly failed, other than food wise) attempts to promote domestic production as a decision making factor, over the years (even decades). Last one revolving around barcodes, which goes to show how hopeless they've been, as barcodes are actually related to company, not product origin, so you see a lot of chinkshit with local 560 barcodes that people been led to identify as domestic production, when that's not necessarily the case.
Also, country traditionally not having had much of an international - or even local - quality brand image, many producers, as soon as they could, quickly started resorting to labelling their export products simply as "made in Europe", creating a chicken and egg problem.
Obviously, globalist as the EU and politicians are, other than farsical lip service, they're also not really interested in promoting anything remotely seen as bolstering national identity (beyond the prospect of increased tax income), quite the opposite.

>>2606206
As for the SM wannabes, those people are a social cancer and need to be incinerated.

>>2606204
>seeing how Craftsman isn’t going to do it
What a disappointment. Not that I would be the main consoomer for cheap Craftsman tools stamped in the US, but it gave me some hope when they announced how much they were putting into US factories. It changed pretty damn fast though with the arrival of the WuFlu and Bidenomics.

>>2606643
>Bidenomics.
You mean thunderous record breaking profits for large corporations?

>>2606644
I mean in all honesty, it’s really shitty for anybody who works in those industries. Every 4 years it’s a gamble on whether all manufacturing goes to China and we get cheap crap for pennies, or the Prez puts a bunch of tariffs on China so they reopen factories in dying towns and the New York Times says we’re ruled by Putin’s puppet.

Like what do you even do as a mega corp executive? Cash out before the next election cycle?

>>2606647
>Like what do you even do as a mega corp executive?
Well seeing as you outsourced to china 40 years ago already, when a president comes in and tariffs all of your products making your profit margins slightly go down, you just freight forward through Taiwan to skirt said tariffs and push the cost onto customers.

If you are someone who still makes things domestically, you dont vote in the guy who just tariffed all your raw materials.
Maybe youll get a moderate who instead of making your cost go up with fruitless tariffs, he'll create a 50 billion dollar program to stimulate domestic manufacturing of products that are needed for national security.

>>2606643
>actually thinking that StanleyBlackDecker was going to use USA materials

They own hundreds of chinese factories, they were never going to pay for US steel when they make their own chinese steel

Its all a marketing ploy

>>2603699
just get a normal hammer and if you need to pry something and the hammer can't quite get it, use a prybar, different tools exist for a reason

>>2606649
I’ll take the tariffs over “$50 billion program!” that’s going to be taken from our pocket and then given out to politically connected people.

I don’t trust the gov’t to do anything well, at least they know how to tax so a tariff is probably the best bet. A president who doesn’t completely bend to Xi would help too, somebody willing to state that the trade practices are totally fucked.

>>2606654
I think there’s money with the Boomers by having that American flag on the Craftsman tool kit. I was disappointed when they introduced all that V-Series, which is rebradged Facom, but it’s all fucking made in Asia and expensive and they don’t even sell it anywhere.