/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>2565344
>metal chain
>metal handlebars
wood or gtfo

>>2565344
nvm chains are steel i'm retarded

>>2565345
yo you posted just before me post >>2565346
:D

>>2565344

imagine how structurally unsafe that would be and one of those pieces of wood breaks and goes up your asshole while riding it.

>>2565345

dont forget the metal bike seat post and the bike seat support bracket and the partial spokes made out of metal oh and also the fender supports made of metal

i plan on building a wooden spinbike soon

No way those wheels are balanced.

>>2565344

>>2566050
what a horrible idea

>>2565344
great, a bike you literally cannot ride outside or it'll warp and seize

>>2566086

>he doesnt know about treated wood and marine grade woods that are designed to be wet and not get ruined

imagine being this dumb on /diy/

>>2565344
there's no way those wheels are balanced

>>2566110

>he doesnt see the 20 metal spokes on the opposite side of the wood spoke

pretty sure the weight of the metal spokes balances out that skinny ass wood spoke.

>>2566103
The treated and marine grade woods that I'm experienced with are treated in order to prevent rotting-- NOT dimensional changes brought about by moisture absorption.

>>2566140

so by that logic all those wooden boats in the water are all warped and coming apart and sinking everywhere?

>>2566159
They're in a constant state of high moisture content.

You're making a retarded argument; if you had a bike made out of wood like OP's pic and you left it outside to get wet and dry, it would wind up getting ruined before long. Treated and marine grade woods are typically intended to be rot resistant and more moisture resistant than untreated wood, but they're still not 100% dimensionally stable, and if you made something like that wooden bike or some finish cabinetry with it and then put it in and out of water, you'd find that it didn't fare well.

>>2566173

>boats are exposed to water and dried and they arent warped or falling apart

gonna need some more logic on your part.

>>2566192
Anon you are a retard. Boats are constantly in water.

>>2566195
>Boats are constantly in water.

so they are always underwater? boats dont sink under normal circumstances and the upper half is above water. but it gets wet from splashing water, rain, etc and then it dries. so why arent all the boats made of wood warped and falling apart? you have not given any answer that supports this because you cant understand that wood can be sealed and marine grade woods exist for this very reason and that boke can me made of that same wood and still be functional

why dont you just give up, you are losing the argument because you dont understand.

>>2566203

bike*

>>2566203
Age of sail ships had a lifespan of maybe 50 years if very well built and constantly maintained. Drydocked, sanded and tarred every few years

>>2566203
>You

Btw I am not the guy you were talking to. But I am Dutch and if there is a thing we know it is ships and bikes. And there is a clear reason we never made bikes out of wood.

>>2566203
You don't seem to understand that the wood is not maintaining a state of water-tightedness--- the tar/pitch/coatings are doing that. The wood is not dimensionally stable 100% when you have absorb moisture and then dry out, it changes shape. This won't probably matter much for a wooden spoon, but it's a terrible choice for a bicycle.

Wood is a bad choice for a bicycle because of its poor weathering qualities and its expense due to labor for this application. It's an inferior choice compared to conventional materials for bicycles.
>marine grade wood
Look up what that term means, fucktard. Its dense grained hardwoods with treatments to prevent rot and increase its water resistance, but ultimately its still a shit choice for a bicycle.

>>2566213

im sorry, when I looked at your post, all I read was blah blah blah im an idiot.

>>2565412
pretty sure it's just a wooden skin over a metal frame

>>2566219
>makes stupid, baseless, inane assertion
>can't back it up
You're a fucking retard and you know it

>go on /vg/
>people falling for retarded blah blah blah b8
>go on /tg/
>people falling for blah blah blah b8
>go on /diy/
>people falling for retarded blah blah blah b8
When will you learn that someone being beyond retarded tends to be b8?

>>2565344
>>2565345
>>2565346
>>2565348
>>2565411
>>2565412

so is it possible to make a bicycle all out of wood even including the chains, or not
just for the aesthetics

>>2566313
I'm not baiting, I just thought it'd be fun to look for creative ways to make something all out of wood like this reply >>2566050
also feeling kinda dumb for changing the thread pic at the last second instead of using the bottom picture because the thread pic looked more functional, but it's not all wood

>>2566359
>so is it possible to make a bicycle all out of wood even including the chains
Well, yeah I'm sure it's possible, but you'd probably be better off not using wooden chains and instead using a different approach, even if it was some sort of direct drive approach like on a penny farthing or big wheels trike

>>2566359
you could use rubber, that comes from trees

>>2566203
Planked wooden boats that don't get sailed enough will absolutely open up at the seams above the waterline and will leak when heeled until those planks soak up moisture and swell enough to seal the caulked seams.

The parts that stay submerged rely on this same dimensional growth of the planks to keep water out; when you re-caulk a wooden boat it will leak a bit until the wood achieves that swollen state. It's also possible to over-caulk a planked boat so that there's not enough room for plank expansion, which can cause the planks to distort and even pop fasteners.

On the flip side, leaving a planked wooden boat out of the water for too long can cause shrinkage that can do the same kind of damage and render it useless without major restoration work like re-planking and re- fastening.

"Marine grades woods" move all over the place and are selected for a balance of strength and flexibility and the rot resistant qualities that are prized in marine grade planking is prized *specifically* because it will be saturated with water.

The only "marine grade" wooden building process that might apply in this context is something like cold molded plywood like the WEST system, but that is a wood/epoxy composite system that relies on using veneers to achieve the kind of saturation that prevents any moisture from ever getting in the wood again.

Because of that need for complete penetration/ saturation it actually works best with more porous open grain wood species than the ones favored for traditional wooden boat construction.

So even where you might be partially correct, you're still wrong.

people figured out centuries ago how to make moisture exposed wood dimensional stable.
Just wait for your favorite youtuber to spoonfeed you video someday, or read a book for once you nibbers

>>2566050
I loved watching his video, but since buying the Battlebots robot he went full retard and annoying
>>2566051
It kinda worked tho

>>2566691
that dude has never heard of lignum vitae before

>>2566103
SHOW ME THIS MAGICAL PLYWOOD.

>>2565411
carbon fiber already does that

>>2565344
If you made a wooden bike frame and it didn't break on the first ride...you're a pussy and dont shred hard enough. Stick to scooters.

tis time for some a hobby horsin'!!!

>>2566359
A fully functional wooden bike can be easily made and is still lighter weight than what you originally posted.

>>2566203
i just have to chime in here to add my two cents in and let you know that you are a grade A retard.

>>2565346
is this a functioning bicycle?

>>2566159
>>2566192
Actually, taking a wooden boat out of the water for an extended period of time usually DOES make it a leaky piece of shit. The traditional fix is hammering tar-soaked rope into the gaps.

>>2565344
>FULLY MADE OUT OF WOOD
I see plenty of metal on that bike.

>>2566051
Ya looks cool but really this is kind of useless other than decoration and bragging

>>2566050
>Large gear on the wheel instead of the pedals

Top retarded

>>2569138
Not exactly "rooe" but rope adjacent-

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakum

>>2565411
Let me tell you about the wonder material known as carbon fiber...

>buy $200, 5 oz. seatpost
>overtighten the clamp bolt by 1nm
>splinters and shreds your colon
many such cases

>>2565344
>radially laced drive wheel
That wheel would disintegrate even if the rim was metal.

>>2566110
Looks symmetric across the line through the wood spoke, symmetry on the perpendicular axis would depend on the weight of the wood spoke. The normal spokes would weigh 120g-ish combined.

>>2566359
Bike chains are rated to be able to carry roughly a ton before they snap, and even a weak rider can put in the equivalent of at least a tenth that if they try.

>>2569414
you have sissy legs?

>>2565344
That seat angle is going to make your penis stop working, rookie. You need to at least level it out, ideally pointed up slightly so you aren't rolling your weight forward onto the base of your shaft.

>>2570686
Pointing it up causes the exact thing you're trying to avoid: jamming the nose into your crotch. Correct position is flat to very slightly nose-down, but not tilted enough that you slide forward - 1 or 2 degrees max (OP is definitely tilted way too much). If you still tend to slide forward with a flat saddle it's probably because your handlebars are too far away.

>>2565344
I used to have a bike frame made from bamboo. some nigger stole it, it was very soft riding and comparable to a mid 90s carbon frame

>>2565344
Where's the wooden dildo?

>>2565344
>>2565346
>Not using a drive shaft for your wooden bicycle instead of a chain
NGMI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimLIkJaNFM

I wanna try

>>2569777
The dude holding it looks like 240lbs at 5'7
No wonder it broke

>>2575127
Now that's a great idea, having a flat disc only fixated in the hub with the higher torque of the lower gears radially pushing onto that disc at the very brim.
This is gonna hold up 200 miles on a sunny day before the gears start slipping.

Noice

>>2575718
For a bike made entirely of wood, that was all I could think of aside from a 4-bar linkage system: https://youtu.be/bzr9tup_J5g

>>2575733
The idea of a driveshaft on bicycles isn't new, it was quite widespread up until ~30 years ago.
Even motorcycles use them, especially BMW.
My argument was not that the idea was bad, but rather the mechanical design in this specific case.

>>2575741
In this specific case, what exactly would you recommend for a bicycle made entirely of wood, besides "don't do it"?

>>2575746
Depends on your definition of entirely.
Power transmission is hard to do with wood,the best option would probably be big gears like >>2566050
Wood gets its rigidity from its mass of aligned fibres, meaning the thinner it is, the less rigid it becomes.
Also, wear and tear will kill it very quickly. So if you won't even allow metal bearings, it'll break even quicker than the driveshaft system.
tl;dr there's a reason why bicycles aren't made of wood

>>2575759
Big gears like >>2566050, but with a different gear ratio, maybe.