/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>2486434
just breed foxes instead

>>2486434
>felon
Black powder musket or revolver, high powered air rifle, crossbow.

>>2486434
Nuclear war

>>2486434
to stupid to out smart a fox, to stupid to hunt them

>>2486434
crossbow
look into a trap big enough
>make trap with wood and chain link
first of all your animals should have had fence or building to keep them safe from predators
how did foxes get to your rabbits?

>>2486436
I don't even know how I could get live ones to do that, also how tf do you domesticate that shit?

>>2486441
I don't have any uranium but I suppose explosives would technically work...

How would I go about that though?

>>2486438
Are there currently any in-production black powder/pinfire repeaters?

>>2486449
They popped open picrel on the chain link cage I kept them in. Also how to trap them?

>>2486448
I need to know how to hunt them so I can hunt them

>>2486456
>I need to know how to hunt them so I can hunt them
you have failed now, and in the future.

>>2486434
FM 5-31
FM 31-210
Courtesy U.S. Army

>>2486434
Start raising eagles and mountain lions to hunt them. Nature taketh so she shall giveth back.

>>2486434
These are sort of the low effort, high results for predatory animals like foxes and cats.
Shooting is effective, I'm not entirely sure how that works in the USA as I'm not a burger with blackpowder, if you've got a bit of cash there's plenty of companies out there making replica blackpowder firearms that work. Course actually hitting the fox in the middle of the night with some old timey yeet cannon is a whole other problem- like I've literally sat on all-nighters for a week with a variety of big guns and night vision waiting for a predatory fox to harass my lambs and they're sometimes a relatively difficult animal to kill. Not as hard as wild dogs, but some foxes get pretty cunning over the years.
If you can get a 'loaner' from a mate on the sly that won't land you in pokey just a .22, 22magnum or 223 is plenty enough

The less appealing option is 1080
Its a bait poison and it murders anything that eats it, but if you've never used animals baits you do need to wear the right PPE, stick it in the most likely places of predation on the way in, check the baits every couple of days and if you've got any open water sources (streams, dams) then you need to make sure its not going to end up in them as well as the animal itself not dying in the water.

>t. full time farmer also professional animal murderer

put notes in your neighbors mailboxes claiming that a rabid fox was outside your door, and when you tried to shoo it away with a broom it lunged and bit you.
claim you had to get a rabies shot and the fox is still on the loose.

they'll take care of the foxes for you out of fear.

>>2486475
What if he asks questions when they kill it?

If you're in the U.S. then at least a couple of your neighbors are both A) owners of a .223 or similar varmint calibre and B) eager to help you get rid of the foxes woth said .223.

I would sure help you out with my suppressed .223 (love my Savage Stevens 200) if I could but I'm all the way across the Atlantic from ya.

>>2486434
Breed dogs instead.

You could try trapping them then releasing them 50 miles away. The trap would cost about 50$ or so, just put some raw meat in.

>>2486457
Not trying to fail :c

>>2486461
Will certainly look into the improvised rockets and mortars.

>>2486463
How big of a litter box would I need for a cougar? Playground sandbox or so?

>>2486470
Would a .380 cal handgun work? Also, where the hell do I get this 1080 shit?

>>2486475
>>2486502
Neighbors are shit libtards unfortunately. The new yorker commiefornia types.

>>2486503
I refuse to drive 50 miles just to dispose of satan spawns worth less than literal shit.

>>2486506
This but unironically

>>2486520
>where the hell do I get this 1080 shit?
Farm supplies usually
1080 (sodium fluoroacetate), PAPP (para-aminopropiophenone) and strychnine.will all kill foxes. Fuck, they kill anything really and depending on where you are in the world might require some government legislation, sometimes it doesn't.
You really need to be VERY careful with them or you'll end up with a neighbourhood of dead puppers, eagles, cats and anything else

Yes a 380 would work if you can hit the little cunt. Typically pistols are kind of crappy but if you can hit him in the head or chest he'll not be eating chicken or bunny dinner.

>another farmer who hates all wildlife

If you had a dog the fox wouldn't go near your rabbits

Poisoning them is a nono because you will probably kill a bald eagle or something like that instead when it eats the fox

>>2486434
>>2486438
You can get a black powder revolver and a center fire conversation chamber for it, if you wanted too. None of these are regulated in the US
>https://youtu.be/tej46sxdNdo

>>2486456
Just put in a locking mechanism that foxes cant open. Doing this instead of killing every fox that enters your property will save you a lot of time and money

>>2486434
Why are you a felon?

>>2486434
They might be able to be deterred by those scareowls things that are just fake owls/hawks/etc that you can put up to scare lil critters off

>>2486608
he's black

Get a dog or three. Improve rabbit hutch security with actual latch/hasp. Add motion lights if they attack at night. Learn about making a fuckin ghost gun and shoot them.

>>2486434
Trap them? They sell cage traps big enough for a fox. I don't know if foxes will fall for it but raccoons are supposed to be smart and they do. Then you can dispose of it as you please...

Oh they also have these traps - duke body traps. It's like a huge rat trap without the wood, just metal squares that slap together and crush the thing. They are an absolute bitch to set and if you aren't careful they'll crush your hand. They use them underwater to catch some aquatic mammal.

>>2486434
>>2486456
Get a better enclosure, dingus. The foxes were there before you were. You want them there. Their job is to eat all the sickly, retarded wild rabbits that could infect your rabbits with diseases that will make them useless to you. Don't be angry at them; be angry at yourself for failing your rabbits. Be smarter, not more violent. This is like being angry at squirrels for eating seed you put out for birds. It's your fault.

>>2486782
Foxes also eat a shitload of mice and rats. Want more mice and rats in your house? Go ahead and kill all the foxes.

>>2486454
russians made silver foxes through breeding domesticating them in the process

>>2486784
an increase in predators is an increase in prey. predators often take out the old and slow those who consume limited resources with little chance to reproduce the depleted resources slows down breeding age prey from breeding

>>2486798
Wrong. Increasing predators is going to decrease prey unless you have a strange situation where most of the population is geriatric, which doesn't happen in nature.

Predator-prey populations in nature follow this model. They both fluctuate and the predator cycle always lags behind the prey cycle.

>>2486899
Exactly. OP is a retard. Nature is out of balance and there are too many rodents or some shit. The foxes came to fix the problem, but he thwarted nature by not having a locking mechanism on his rabbit hutches that an animal with no hands can't open. Now he wants to double down on the stupid by killing the solution and everybody else's gardens are going to be ravaged by wild rabbits. These aren't even animals that are difficult to protect from predators. It's not even an economy vs ecology situation. Someone else above also said to just get a better latch. This is the kind of person that goes back to prison sooner or later.

Just let them go and predators will eat the rest. Then sell bath salts or something more your speed (reverse).

Yeehaw McGoober is out there firing black powder pistols in the middle of the night again. He's gonna kill some shit cuz he didn't put a good lock on the rabbit hutch. Look out, McGoober! Your neighbors just called the cops on you (again).

>>2486532
Dogs are very expensive though...

>>2486546
Already going to install a padlock.

>>2486608
I don't wanna focus on the shit that I did but I was young and dumb and didn't know any better, got caught up in a pile of shit. Gang related, non violent. Not going back.

>>2486620
The big ass fake plastic bird things? Maybe.

>>2486633
Motion lights would probably be good. How do I make a ghost gun without a 3d printer though?

>>2486746
Holy fuck that sounds dope.

>>2486784
Cats already handled that problem though, so I don't think that killing these fuckers is gonna cause a rat issue.

>>2486899
Very helpful, thanks bro

>>2486910
Everyone else is like ten miles away or some shit and I just want to get at these fuckers because I'm kinda pissed that all those years came to nothing. Shit gave me something to look forward to, and they took that shit away from me.

>>2486913
The hook latch was fine for years, I guess what kept them out was my fence. Again, literally never even saw these assholes until recently. Also, I have the acreage to shoot on my property, so I should be fine.

And there's nothing wrong with having the last name McGoobers. Holy fuck.

>>2486958
>Gang related, non violent. Not going back.
I can respect a man wanting to forget things about himself, wish /dyi/ knew how to homemade lobotomization.

>>2486434
>felon
Then you're accustomed to committing crimes jackass.

>>2486958
You don't need a 3d printer. Do you have access to the internet? You can buy a .22 adapter that fits in a flare gun, or if you're any kind of smart, you can make your own. Hell, guys can make guns in prison I'm sure you can but some pipe and learn how to make a trigger mechanism.

>>2487217
*buy.
Fuck autocorrect

>No gun
Then how about a slingshot, blow darts, CO2 pellet rifle, bow, bite traps, guard dog, poison bait if there's not other critters you don't mind as collateral. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

>>2486434
Google professor parabellum and follow the instructions if you want to build an actual firearm, if not then you could try maybe an air rifle. Maybe see if you could put some sort of poison into one of those pepperball launcher things, or use a nailgun. Maybe build a flamethrower.

procure a small aircraft (crop duster, gyrocopter, etc) and drop pellets of 1080 over them. It helps if you drench the pellets in your blood. You can also mix vinegar and bleach in a large bin to create chlorine gas.

Gasoline within itself is poisonous too, so maybe drench meat in it, although antifreeze is less noticeable. Speaking of gasoline, if you find one of their holes you should set it on fire just to hear them scream. Make sure you block the hole before burning them alive. This is actually where the browser firefox got its name from.

I want to make a trap that electrocutes them. Like those homeowners did to the trump signs that were being stolen from lawns. Basically these fucks keeping killing my guineas so I'm going to hook a fake bird up to some wires and when they bites it they are going to fry. What's the best way to do this

>>2488380
at least eight amps direct current. fake bird won't work, so you might just want to go with an electric fence, keep in mind that current commercially available electrical fences are high voltage and low amperage, so they won't achieve the results that you want. It's amps you want, and fuck tons of them at stupid voltages.

now I'm no electrician, but I'm pretty sure that 120v 20a DC will kill, and if you're willing to do some stupid shit you could maybe double that and cook them from the insides out before they're dead.

and all they have to do is complete a circuit.

>>2486534
>center fire conversion
wait. Does this mean it can shoot modern smokeless cartridges? So a nogunz felon can effectively buy a real gun with this loophole?

>>2488761
If you want to blow up your face, yeah, sure, knock yourself out.

>>2488761
>>2488956
>nogunz felon
No, the second you install a chamber conversion into a blackpowder revolver, it's not a blackpowder revolver anymore, it's a proper firearm. As a US citizen, you can make a gun if you want, but you can only produce a gun that you can legally own. If you can't legally own a gun, you can't legally make it.
So no, it's not a loophole, no more so than 80% lowers or 3D printed Glock frames.

In general, they usually kind of suck, but they might be the "right" choice for certain enthusiasts.
Good ones are expensive, more expensive than tons of cheap reliable guns that exist.
$200-$400 is "normal."
They're typically chambered for old, weak, overpriced, and uncommon cartridges, but not universally.
The guns are made to run blackpowder, they can't handle the forces involved with the majority of modern loadings that happen to have the same bullet diameter.
There are exceptions of course, and some specific old revolvers hold up just fine when converted for relatively powerful cartridges like 45ACP.
45 Long Colt conversions for specific .44 black powder revolvers are the most common.

>>2488991
are 80% lowers still a thing?

Air rifles are pretty good now and go up to 50. A 22 pellet should be able to drop a fox with good placement but I'd get something in the middle. Good for raccoons and coyote too.

>>2486434
>felon.
Felons all bowhunt.

>>2486454
look up black powder revlover legality in your state, its usually not a good idea but yes they still make "antique black powder revolvers, alternatively you should probably get a high powered co2 fed pellet rifle, they sell pellet rifles that can shoot 50. at about the same fps as a 22. . some people hunt extremely large game with them.

>>2489621
does anyone know what type of gunpowder is used in firecrackers?

>>2486454
>Are there currently any in-production
https://www.cabelas.com/l/black-powder-guns

Seconding the suggestion about the air rifle though. There are plenty of large caliber high powered air rifles available which should be enough for eradicating your horde of foxes.

>>2486456
Build a gas chamber, flood with nitrogen and is probably more humane than a crossbow or fucking black powder bombs

>>2486434
Your first step is to build a labyrinth, come back once it's finished and I will tell you what to do next

>>2489953
>fucking black powder bombs
FIRE IN THE HOLE!

tame them all and create a fox army
>no verification required

>>2486529
This.

>>2486434
Mix oatmeal, peanut butter, and quikcrete together and set it out for them.
Uncle and I used this recipe to remove racoons from under his porch and actually worked. The quikcrete plugs them up and they literally implode.
Kinda harsh but effective since you are a felon, other option is to call law abiding citizen friend who has a gun to do it for you

>>2486434
(I am an Euro so the following may not apply to the free world)
Foxes are lazy. They cannot help themselves if presented a food option that's piss easy. Simply place a lot of small bear traps or other clamp-like devices around the perimeter with some tasty meat and they'll basically kill themselves. Of course other animals will go in them too, but this can be prevented. If you don't want large birds place the trap under a ledge. If you don't want weasels in there fuck that, because every weasel needs to fucking die anyway.
If you catch a fox, grab an axe, chop it to pieces and put its body around the terrain. Foxes are smart enough to recognize their dead kin and stay away.

>T. No idea just speculating what i know

>>2486434
>how can i genocide a speices so i can carry on with my faggot rabbit farm?

I hope you die painfully.
If you grew up, became a man and denounced your faggot ways the fox would no longer be a worry in your gay life

>>2486434
Are felons allowed air guns in burgerland? That will drop anything easily, and if your on an acreage it’s always handy to have something for pests.

>>2490670
amos slade did nothing wrong.

>>2486962
tequila and a mustang.

>>2490689
whats the best airgun?

>>2490958

>>2490998
Honestly don’t know, but for skunks and porcupines and coyotes that thing would definitely kill them.

>>2486434
Get a couple guard dogs. Great Pyrenees for example. My neighbor breeds them. They hunt deer by themselves and stand shoulder level with my Silverado. Raise them as puppies around your rabbits. They'll consider them family and FUCK SHIT UP that even so much as looks at them. Otherwise trustworthy.

lmao @ foxes

>>2486434
it's time to go native blackanon.

>>2486434

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlL3z_OprYw

Trapping foxes and coyotes is more of an art than a science but snaring is a cheap and effective way of catching wild animals. They are likely entering through a hole in a fence/garage/coop so you can use that as a point to set your snare and hopefully it actually kills it too.

>>2489364
do you know what google is?
are you a bot?

>>2492047
I refuse to be a robot any longer

>>2490513
I came to this thread looking for new inspiration for my mice pogroms, going to try out peanut butter and plaster now.

>>2486434
If you are serious about this. Killing them isn't the answer. More will move into the space.

I raise chickens and to deal with fox, I walk my property line with my dog and literally piss it with him. If you find a fox den, literally piss all over it, inside of it. Your goal is to make the space feel and be hostile to the animal. They will take the path of least resistance and move onto easier prey. You are the easy prey at the moment.

I also kept buckets up on posts to shoot with a 22 in the middle of the night to scare them off. I light them up with a flash light and I'd I get one that's persistent, I kill it. Your best bet is literally motion lights and pissing your property. I'm not fucking around, I'm not joking. I haven't had a fox issue in 3 years and I see them over the hill all the time.

Chcikens are free range and I haven't had a loss in 3 years. I've had 2 hawk attacks this year, both hawks young and unsuccessful. Over my years of raising chickens I still am at single digit losses predation.
Unless you count me eating them lol
You can literally do everything I said as a felon. Replace the 22 with a air rifle. You gotta actually give a shit and do a little work.
I was waking up at 3am to meet the foxes for a few weeks to make their lives uncomfortable.

>>2486434
Just change your hobby to fox breeding and kill as much as you want for their furs.

>>2492776
There's money in that and money is better than rabbits.

>>2486798
>an increase in predators is an increase in prey
An increase in predators is an increase in everything EXCEPT prey. They're an essential part of keeping everything in balance. google "yellowstone ecosystem without wolves" if you'd like a historical example of this in action.