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Making a stove, kinda feeling good about it, so I thought I'd post a few pics.

>> No.2460629
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>>2460627
Should have started taking pics much earlier in the process, but oh well.

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>>2460629
Next time going to add the metal frame on around on which the "stove" lid will rest on.
Then add the heavy ribbed metal "stove" plate on to the metal frame.
Only question is if I should do it while the clay is soft so the metal piece will self regulate the metal frame. Or do it manually, set the metal frames, let them dry out and only then set the metal frame on top.

First option sounds like less work but I have doubts it will level itself out nicely considering some uneveness of all the sides.
The other option might yield better, more even surface for the metal frame and thus the stove plate. But it will be a lot of hassle trying to get everything even from all 4 sides
All I have with me is a air bubble and some rope in a ball. I wonder how much I can accomplish to finish it off.

>> No.2461000

Looks good OP. I wish I knew more about masonry so I could give some advice. I’d say from my own experience with other projects that you should take the more thorough route. Otherwise you’ll regret it every time you look at it.

>> No.2462211

Remember if you live in Arizona you can prove you built a stove for tax credits.

>> No.2462332

>>2462211
lol what? explain

>> No.2462432

>>2462211
bump for interest

>> No.2462465

>>2460627
Where's the chimney?

>> No.2462473

>>2462465
What do you mean, where? Outside of the house?
You can see in the top left there is an opening, that leads to a brick wall that makes up a wall across rooms, it twists and turns through that wall as sort of a central heating and eventually leads to a chimney.

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>>2462473
update

>> No.2464210
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>>2464209
and this is what it will more or less look like when it's finished
naturally I still have some underlying bricks to add for leveling out the entire thing, and the metal frame jutting out needs to be cut off.

>> No.2464460

>>2464209
Fancy

>> No.2464956

>>2462332
not same anon, but found this

https://www.azleg.gov/ars/43/01027.htm

>> No.2464959

>>2464956
>finish work in the middle of nowhere
>government worker busts in through my front door
>CONGRATULATIONS you built a stove, here is some money for what you did
>huuuuh? wha.....

>> No.2465956
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>bricks, nice and leveled

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>>2465956
well it took a while, but everything is leveled, and ready.
Just have to make the mix and plaster everything into place and add the metal frame border to the front.
I just might finish it next time.

>> No.2467102

>>2462473

You better test the ventilation of your stove before you keep going, typically you Require a specific venting slope based on the size of exhaust. If the slope of chimney is not adaquate you’ll get carbon monoxide coming in, smoke, and possibly moisture etc.

You don’t want to have to rip it all apart again after just because you didn’t test it..

>> No.2467108

>>2464959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCedOQJ0ZEA

>> No.2467333

>>2467102
Test it how?
> typically you Require a specific venting slope based on the size of exhaust.
where?
> If the slope of chimney is not adaquate you’ll get carbon monoxide coming in, smoke, and possibly moisture etc.
More info needed, or pictures or something.

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>>2465957

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>>2468192
bada bing

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>>2468193
bada boom
just got to wait for it to dry, throw on the stove plate and add the front metal frame piece thats missing right now.

>> No.2468458

Good luck with yer stove anon. I hope it's warm and cozy.
>tfw no warm stove for a cold wintery day to sit by

>> No.2468469

Outside of personal satisfaction how is this better than buying a used woodstove?

>> No.2468561

Good luck on your stove, friend

>> No.2468569

>>2468469
More mass for one, you are comparing a small metal box to a massive brick wall and stove which stores the heat and distributes it more evenly, giving of less heat when its warm and more when it's cold to maintain some equilibrium.
You can also heat water while you cook food or heat multiple rooms.
Lastly the cost, it's a lot cheaper.

>> No.2468720

>>2467108
>edgy xen-xers hated this guy just like millenoids hate orange man
>literally did nothing wrong

>> No.2468759

>>2468569
Massive bricks that need shit tons of heat to heat up but take longer to cool down vs. Thin metal that radiates heat immediately, well. But cools down quickly. I'll tale the latter since you can insulate your building and hold the heat in.

>> No.2468760

>>2468759
Ive had to play this game and it takes about 2 days to fully lose heat in a building. Not for comfort but pure survival.

>> No.2468765

>>2468759
>Massive bricks that need shit tons of heat to heat up but take longer to cool down vs
Yes, so you can heat it and sleep in comfort, vs having to constantly have something "on".
>I'll tale the latter since you can insulate your building and hold the heat in.
It's a log house that sits on the ground.
The other thing is, how cold does it get in your area during the winter? Whats the lowest it drops down to?

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>>2464210
can you throw a 1/3 pound burger on that griddle and grill up a greasy cheezeburgor?

>> No.2468866

>>2464956
>>2464959
If it burns wood it has to be an afterburner or a catalytic type to get the credit. And it's only 500 dollars max.
Dumb. I have jews to burn and this will only slow me down.

>> No.2468894

>>2468866
what the hell is an afterburner for a wood stove?

And catalytic? Isn't that shit they use on cars to reduce NOX?

>> No.2468900

>>2468894
Pipes in fresh air at the top of the stove to continue combustion. I have one on mine, looks like a propane stove when working.
I dunno the chemistry of the catalytic or if it's just a PM filter, but the idea for both is to reduce particulate matter leaving the stove.
Kind of gay when everyone else (especially the rich) are ejecting plumes of smoke everwherr.

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>>2468569
>>2468759
here a German diagram so in short.
>4kg of wood burn in 80min
>4kg of wood have 16kWh energy so average output of 12kw heat
>a medium wood stove has a output of 8kw.
the red is all the energy you loose through hot exhaust temperatures.

you could throttle the fire to 8kw by closing the air but that will lead to more soot more emissions and a less efficient burn.

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>>2468765
now a good brick stove.
>6kg wood burn in full blast with 22kW
>the stove buffers this over 16hours radiating between 1 and 2 kw into the room
this is enough to keep a already warm and good insulated room warm.
so you can use almost all of the energy of the wood.

>> No.2470822

>>2470348
>>2470353
So you are agreeing with me?

Anyway does anybody know anything about heat resistant nylon rope or some kind of heat resistant cotton like material you use to put between two surfaces to isolate the cracks?
I made the metal frame and stove plate fit together as much as possible, but I expect there is still like 1mm cracks in most of the place and 2-3mm crack in the worst place by my estimates.
I imagine I should put some material between the twot to help seal the area off.
I'v also heard that even if you don't seal them off, then the soot from the stove will simply build up there and self seal it.
Currently I have a heat resistant rope but I suspect that fully compressed it will be like 4-5mm height.
Not sure if I should use that or look for something more thin.

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>>2470822
yes i agree with you.

>Anyway does anybody know anything about heat resistant nylon rope or some kind of heat resistant cotton like material you use to put between two surfaces to isolate the cracks?
there is glass fiber rope specifically made for that.

i replaced it on my own factory made cook stove last month, in my case a 8mm round rope that seals the cook plate to the iron frame, it lays in a groove in the frame and is glued with some heat resistant silicate glue.
pic related is sold in German hardware stores. (its gray because it contain graphite so oven doors don't become stuck)

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>>2470840
flat product is avaible to maybe better for your case.

English names are stove tape, or fiberglass rope.

>> No.2470864

>>2470840
yeah the rope I have looks like that, same glue and everything but the rope is white.
Well I guess I iull just use it sparingly to even out anything over 3mm height difference, the less ones should fix themselves with some soot. In theory.

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It just werks.

>> No.2473465

>>2471984
thanks op for actually /diy/ing something and deliver.

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>>2473465
Well I was going to do it one way or another, mid way through it's neat enough to document.
Technically it's not done done. It's functional done, I can use it, but there is still some last touches that should be done, like adding the metal corner frame to the front. But I might end up doing that either next year or next month.

Oh and something to share. I fucked around a lot with the heat resistent rope, mainly because it was too high on the front and back, but too low on the sides.
So I was hoping I could use it just on the sides and cut it into two strings. A mistake.
I should have just gone with the initial circle around the edge and smoosh it down with weight and nudging as much as possible. But I was afraid that initial application wasn't tight enough on the loose sides.

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>>2473812
also I think you can see it from the webm, but the air pull on the thing is pretty damn strong.
You can set firewood right at the edge of the door and it will pull in all smoke and flames inside anyway. Don't know if thats a good thing or not.
I imagine closing the front "door" on it will reduce the rush of airflow to something a bit more manageable for the flames not to get blown out.

>> No.2475109

>>2460627
What type of brick are you using?

>> No.2475120

>>2475109
The redder ones are from a store, fire resistant bricks or whatever.
The grayish bricks are old bricks reused from another old stove.