/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>he doesn't just dig a hole at the backyard and put a metal plate on the sides and park the car over the hole to work under a car

ngmi

>>2454143
Ive actually had a scissor jack fail on me before.
Likewise Ive owned a jack that had its seals fail before.

So yes, unironically.

I hate this meme. in a couple months I have to change oil and brake pads first time. I already bought jack stands and Im scared I will die alone in my garage under that deadly trap. Fuck you internet.

>>2454178
Just pump out the oil, no need to go under the car

>>2454178
Once you have the car on the jack stands, rock the car back and forth hard.
Youll realize how sturdy jackstands actually are and wont be too worried about it.

Leave the actual jack in place anyways, in case the jackstands fail
And when you take the tire off, put it under the car, in case both the jack and the stands fail.

Youll be fine though.

>>2454178
Get some ramps, picrel.
>>2454143
OP anon, isn't it called tribbing jack?

>>2454178
>I have to change oil and brake pads first time

LOL. I pay people to do this shit work. the fuck would I crawl under a car to change oil when I can pay some wage slave to do it for me! let them take on the danger and shit work

>>2454183
This, based safety anon.

>>2454202
goyslop plastic ramps

>>2454183
Fucking this. I worked on a lot of vehicles, but there was a day I was incredibly drunk working on my Jeep, and the habit of putting the tire underneath the axle when jacked saved my life. Was on a incline trying to fix one of my tires with the ass jacked up in the air, and the parking brake pulled. If you can see my mistake then you're not as retarded as I was. For some reason I went underneath the Jeep to take a look at something and it rolled back. That tire underneath the axle kept me from getting crushed.

>>2454143
A good thing wouldn't get nicknamed widowmaker.

>>2454143
>NNOOOOO YOU HAVE TO USE CAR JACKS YOU CAN'T JUST WORK UNDER A CAR WITH A SCISSOR STAND

Are single-column in-ground hydraulic lifts not used anymore? I never heard mechanics worrying about collapses when these were mainstream.

>>2454209
Don't naw on it and you'll be fine.

>>2454241

cant even trust the pros to not fuck up your car.

>>2454257
looks like pedro and joquin installed that

Ohh... this thread again.

How it's done boys.

>>2454365
Mexican janga

>>2454163
>Ive actually had a scissor jack fail on me before.
Me too.
And I actually had my leg under the car a couple minutes before gravity won against the jack.
Also had a bottle jack fail me too. Started lifting the car, went grab something, returned and..."Didn't I lift the car?". Yeah, seals were fucked.

last one on my potato

>>2454178
If you're that scared of the car falling on you, get yourself a thick piece of something that's 2-3 cm/1 inch thicker than you and shove it underneath the car. This way, if the jack fails, it stops in that thing and you can wiggle your way out from underneath the car.
But honestly if you have the possibility, do the concrete hole in the ground thing. It's way safer and much more comfortable.

>>2454241
Yea i saw a vid of a chink get crushed by a car that was on one of those
Do not recommend

>>2454861
>I have to do brake pads
>do the concrete hole in the ground thing

>>2454866
You shouldn't have to climb under a car to do brake pads...

>>2454861
>>2454178
My brothers under god, it is not that big a deal. The photos you see of people killed or vehicles wrecked are just big time tools who don't do "safety" because it's "boring."

here's the veteran advice:

Don't use the jack as a stand and don't use something that splits or cracks as a stand. This means no cinder blocks and no framing timber. Don't crawl under a vehicle that's on a hill. Do not service a vehicle if the wheels are not chocked. And do not listen to retards on the internet who tell you that all this safety talk is for nerds.

Do use a jack to elevate the vehicle and do use a rated stand or a dense piece of hardwood (oak works well) positioned so that the vehicle will not split the wood along the grain. In ag and heavy equipment, we build little "cribs" out of oak blocks. Use wheel chocks regardless of whether your vehicle is parked on an incline (using a jack on only one side of a vehicle simulates an incline; unless you can jack all wheels off the ground evenly, you must use wheel chocks on at least two opposing wheels). Also, read your manual for the safest position for the jack and the safest position for a stand. If there is no advice, then check your vehicle's frame for arrows, dots, or cut outs that indicate where to jack from and where to place stands, then give the car a sturdy shove to see if it's going anywhere. Then get to work.

>>2454866
>You don't understand, I need to get under my car to change the brake pads
ok
>>2454874
Good advice

>>2454873
yeah, no shit, thats why I posted that to show what retarded advice it was.
Not to mention the fact that as was noted early on itt, ramps and grease pits alone don't help when you are doing work that requires removing the wheels/unloading the suspension.
Like doing brakes.

>>2454874
All safety sally bullshit just gets in the way of real men getting real work done. I'll use all that nanny fuckery when somebody figure out how to make it not a pain in the ass.

Source: An old man with 7 fingers, 9 toes, one eye, no hearing, and more scar tissue and shrapnel than 20 tours in 'nam.

>>2454202
perfect for oil change, except not plastic lmfao. get metal ones idiot.

>>2454205
This, but unironically. Its only like $20 more.

>>2454376
*Jenga
but lol

>>2454962
The plastic ones are stronger than the shitty chinese steel ones you get these days.

>>2454962
>>2454982
Or just a couple 2x8s sawed apart and screwed together.
That's what I use. They're fine.

>>2454143
you can do what you want

>>2454143

Use an off-road high jack and then you'll realize how good scissor jacks are....

>>2455410
use a 70s bumper jack by the side of the road and you'll realize how good hi-lift jacks are

>>2454974
If this were true, I would never change my own oil.

Jiffy Lube and Valvoline both want $80 to throw synthetic into my Crown Vic, costs me <$15 to do it at home, takes 20 minutes. Bought a handful of filters online for <$2/ea shipped, buy oil in 6 gallon boxes for $50 when they're on sale.

If someone would do it for <$45 I'd break and start paying someone else to do it.

>>2455863
As a mechanic I never hire out oil changes. The reason is stark terror of lube monkeys with air tools since oil pan repairs and replacements are nasty.

The threads of your drain plug are too precious to put in strangers hands.

>>2455868
I'm an old and crippled former mechanic, I say let the monkeys have at it, give me an excuse to shake my crippled fists in public.

>>2455871
I'm old and crippled but I planned well for this day and have a lift. When I can no longer change my own oil I can depart this mortal coil without regret.

>>2454205
You're on the /diy/ board anon

>>2454241
They leak too and suck to maintain while being expensive to install because they require a pit. Picrel blocks the bottom of the vehicle which is horrible for access.

Modern two and four post lifts properly installed work fine.

>>2454257 is hilariously bad.

>>2454320
is based. Backhoes and crackhoes bring great joy to their owners.

>>2454257
pigfat car on a lift that was installed with concrete anchors sourced by a jew

>>2454143
Use two jack stands.

>>2456956
you just doubled your jacking capability right there

>>2457005
I think that also acts like those articulated structural connections in Japanese high rise buildings that dissipate motion from seismic events and keep them from falling over during major earthquakes.

>>2457011
dubs of truth checked

>>2456956
#jackhacks

>>2454855
If it's a donor being parted out then scrapped that's actually a good idea. Given its age and corrosion that's a fair bet.

>>2457016
JUST JACK!!

>>2454237
Depends on who you’re married to.

>>2454365
Considering we build houses with wood I’d say that setup is pretty safe.

>>2454952
I’d like to die with all my fingers and toes. No offense.

>>2456956
Make sure you use a level.

>>2454376
lol

>>2457059
>>2454365
>>2454376
lmao