/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>2443452
>. There are probably so many CEOs and sales managers that want him dead right now

Ah yes, all those five vowel Amazon "brands" he tests out like xinyijiayi and areclern, or even qiguch66 are real mad that he just breaks a bunch of tools on camera using tests that dont reflect any real world usage!

They know if they go after PF, they'll incur the wrath of AvE. No one wants to poke that bear.

>>2443456
Literal WHO?

>>2443452
>This guy is putting himself at incredible risk. There are probably so many CEOs and sales managers that want him dead right now
>Does anyone know if any of these blue collar companies have hinted at trying to threaten him yet?
redditors literally think they live inside a movie, you should go back

>>2443452
>Ohmygurd, harbor freight is gonna hire a hitman to cut his brake lines so he can't report to the world their $8.99 rubber mallets fail at 300 pounds of force!

>>2443468
lol dude why are you so angry

>>2443462
literally retarded

>>2443455
I've bought stuff based on his tests. Air filters comes to mind. And looking at a kizer knife, not the one he tested recently. But they seem to make reasonable price knives. Cm-4v steel is cm-4v steel, but Spyderco charges over $200, kizer is $70.

>>2443452
He doesn't have enough viewers to make a difference.

>actually watching this kermit the frog sounding human rat turd

>>2443452
>There are probably so many CEOs and sales managers that want him dead right now
There are probably so many CEOs and sales managers that are giggling with glee at all the free advertising.

fixed that for ya bub.

you do know that he rarely shows any brand as shit? you do know that his testing mostly ever shows that even the cheap stuff work pretty good when used properly?

you do know this? r r right senpai?

>>2443472
Oh, the reddit faggot that redditors like
NOW I remember!

>>2443478
>I've bought stuff based on his tests.
You are a fucking retard

>Spyderco charges over $200, kizer is $70.
I dont watch his channel and havent seen a video in over a year, but you literally paid $70 for a chink knife and are proud of it.

>>2443503
I did to, a knife sharpener and windshield wiper blades.

sharpener works great and the blades lasted 2 years. normally blades last barely 6 months.

>>2443505
>buys chink knives
>buys gimmick sharpening products instead of just using a stone
like pottery

>>2443452
dude stop watching his videos if you value your life.

I knew a guy that made similar videos like this (he was popular in my local community) and caused all toolheads in the area to save thousands of dollars by not using the shitty tools.

it was all well and good until he stopped posting videos and also didn't show up to the local tool fair where he'd usually do a live show of his top tools (it was pretty cool getting to see him do his vids in person)

we didnt know what happened until police found his severed head nailed to a tree using the hammer from his last video review, which didnt get a good ToolTest rating. other body parts were eventually found mailed to the top viewers of his channel as a warning from Big Tool, and everyone got the message quite clearly.

continue watching if you dont believe me, but dont be shocked when this dude's hand is found on your doorstep holding some piece of shit stud remover. you don't mess with Big Tool and get away with it.

the project farm channel is literally an amazon marketing campaign. the guy is either paid by them or a deepfake AI. his job is to get you to buy shit on amazon and he's very good at it.

>>2443452
I bought 2 pairs of kaijirushi scissors based on his recommendation. They are very good. But they are also $100.

>>2443517
You know some schizo will actually believe this.

Everyone knows this only happens to those that criticize Big Pharma, the Feds, or the Military Industrial Complex.

>>2443483
are you CEO/sales manager by any chance?

>>2443508
knife sharper works better than a stone and is faster. cry harder.

>>2443593
how do you know?

>>2443503
>you literally paid $70 for a chink knife and are proud of it
reading isn't your strong suit, that's ok. I said I was looking at it, as in considering buying it.

>>2443699
there is obviously no proof because if there were it would defeat the entire purpose. but his entire spiel basically boils down to 'i dont care what brand of tool you buy as long as you buy something'. everything he reviews is something amazon sells and he includes amazon links to everything in his video descriptions. lately half the stuff he tests is amazon exclusive chinese alibaba crap.

but if you think about it in a larger context, companies spend ungodly amounts of money on marketing and advertising, and it's no secret that people are almost impervious to online advertisements. so you get the introduction of things like 'sponsored content' and social media 'influencers' which is really just a hip new spin on the old infomercial concept that used to include people like billy mays and that shamwow guy. the more natural you can make these people seem, the more effective they are, since the moment most people become aware that they're viewing an ad they completely lose interest.

so knowing this, you have literally the biggest online commerce company in the western world, how do you think they're going to approach marketing? if they're not doing things like this they're retarded. ask yourself, how much money have you spent on amazon solely because of his videos? and i guarantee you there is an equivalent 'project farm' for every one of amazon's market segments.

Yesterday I watched his double A battery video to determine if I should spend extra for lithium batteries. I think for most applications they're not worth the cost, but I ended up buying an 8 count of Energizer Lithium for $15 off Amazon. I'm using them for the keypad to a safe, so I wanted them to last long.

This man literally guides my buying decisions for tools. He can't lose!

>>2443747
I need this shirt.

>>2443452
he's uncorruptible, like matthias
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWTZMgYadF4

>>2443743
What is wrong with the videos if they are ads? They would be an example of the greatest form of marketing in the digital age. More likely is that his channel rakes in money from the affiliate links. It used to be after clicking on a link any purchases made within the next several hours would be credited to the affiliate, probably not like that anymore. Amazon can certainly incentivize content creators.

>>2443778
>What is wrong with the videos if they are ads?
would it change your opinion of the channel if instead of being named 'Project Farm' and starring an 'unbiased independent tester', it was named 'Amazon Tool Reviews' run by a team of Amazon employees and starring a card-carrying Amazon-branded spokesperson?

>>2443743
I think the problem is that Americans are clueless about any alternatives to amazon.

>>2443696
i just use a buffing wheel

>>2443612
Don't forget inventors of magic carburetors that let you run ICE on tap water or get 300 mpg on pump gas.

>>2443478
>looking at a kizer knife
Some folks call it a Kizer blade I call it a sling blade. It's what the highway boys use to cut down weeds and whatnot.

>>2443696
They don’t work better than stones and are only faster for women who possess 0 skills with their hands
But there is certainly a market for that trash

>>2443812
What alternatives?
Giving money to the Walton family instead?
There is a grubby lizardperson at the top of every companies foodchain no matter where you buy a product (which will have its own lizardperson running it)

>>2443452
Are DeWalt electric tools good?
or they just have those prices bc "fame"

>>2443683
yes

>>2443452
Oh boy another video where he breaks a bunch of shit for useless results.

>>2443901

>>2443478
You clearly don't understand heat treating and should feel bad. I like the guys vids, but saying "x steel is x steel" is drooling midwit frame of mind.
>>2443696
Different anon. Sharpeners are faster, but stones are better, you generally want a more shallow degree at the tip of the knife, by 1 to 2 degrees, sharpeners don't do that, and it effects durability of the tip.

>>2443452
This guys is an amazon shill.
>compares different tools that not releated just cause it was the only thing from known brand he could find.
>it also expensive cause that the only one selling it.

>>2444017
>if I put a sharpening stone on a stick, i may get it to work!
t, women

>>2443452
Why would they exactly? People reviewing products publicly has been a thing since the first issue of consumer reports.

Lpl absolutely destroys and humiliates master lock on a regular basis and they are toothless to say anything other than make a better product. Which btw, they don't.

>>2444030
if you watched his video on sharpeners you would find that the non stone sharpeners sharpened knives as sharp as a razor blade. quickly and easily.

so...

>>2443452
>want him dead right now
I guarantee that 1. they don't know he exists, or 2. love him for the free advertising he does for them.

>>2444257
you are out of your zone here anon.
Those V sharpeners work a couple of times, but with use the performance will drop significant as the primary bevel grows shorter and the cutting edge becomes thicker.
As they are really aggressive, you will see this before the first dozen uses on a single knife.
With a stone or guided system you can thin the knife, but the V sharpener only hits the secondary bevel. So you are stuck with buying another sharpening tool or tossing the now fucked knife

>>2444268
so far that has not been the case.

>>2443452
>Does anyone know if any of these blue collar companies have hinted at trying to threaten him yet?
Oh, they've tried, but Todd is ex-military, a legit operator, and his compound is among the most secure homesteads in America. Back in his service days, ISIS released dozens of propaganda videos claiming that they were going to kill Terrible Todd--but one by one, their top lieutenants died hearing "We're going to test that" whispered in their ears as their throats were slowly slit with a rusty lawnmower blade, Todd's weapon of choice for settling personal debts.

Todd the Terror is officially retired now, but he can still shoot the wings off a fly, and "The Farm" is protected by his hand-picked regiment of OMAHA WOLVES from various three-letter agencies and disavowed task forces. He may look unassuming, but Todd is basically the 2022 equivalent of pic related. Fuck around and find out, Bosch.

>>2443846
fakkin heck, (you)

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>>2444270
if you buy only cheap knives from a supermarket then almost certainly you use all beater shit knives that have a harder steel in them than high carbon steel. this is good if you wanna slash them through those things because you'll lose less material. Don't throw a high carbon blade through that junk and you'll be fine.

>>2444292
> rusty lawnmower blade
>weapon of choice for settling personal debts.

“I've killed Doyle Hargraves with a lawn mower blade. Yes, I'm right sure of it. I hit him two good whacks in the head with it. That second one just plum near cut his head in two.”

>>2444292
You don't fuck with The Todd.

>>2444270
Todd, are you arguing against geometry? Blade geometry is what defines sharpness in the first place.
Right is what happens after prolonged use of anything without thinning.

I'm surprised Festool haven't tried to kill him off yet

>>2444337
>trying to reason with an absolute retard
Just let the man live in bliss with his as seen on TV sharpener gimmicks.
You know he went out to CVS and bought the shitty carbide Bavarian Edge sharpener right out of the as seen on TV isle.

>>2444302
At least no gun violence was involved. If only this man could counsel out inner city youth on appropriate methods of dispute resolution.

>>2444407
that is the one he test that sharpened the best for not a lot of money.

>>2444231
>Lpl absolutely destroys and humiliates master lock on a regular basis
So what? The average thief will never bother learning how to pick a lock, besides it's much easier to just double wrench a padlock. Pickability is probably among the last of any lock companies concerns unless they are actually meant for high security. Masterlock is there to keep kids out of school lockers and basic deterrence on your garden shed.

>>2444363
Enough redditors are still buying that shit for their tool collection I doubt they care.

>>2443452
>There are probably so many CEOs and sales managers that want him dead right now
The sum total of CEOs in this category is exactly zero.

>>2443743
So you have zero proof beyond your wishes.

>>2443812
>alternatives to amazon.
There are none. If you buy from any other site, you have a high chance of it shipped from Amazon.

>>2443743
>it's no secret that people are almost impervious to online advertisements
this is just patently untrue. online marketing is one of the advertising segments in the world. sure, random porn pop-ups don't see a lot of clickthrough, but you're incredibly mistaken if you think people don't absolutely eat up targeted advertisement. think sponsored search results, targeted news feed entries, sponsored social media posts, etc..

>>2444524
>this is just patently untrue
first of all, literally all the research says you're wrong, so inform yourself.

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/banner-blindness-old-and-new-findings/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220892282_Why_and_When_Will_Banner_Blindness_Occur_An_Analysis_Based_on_the_Dual_Processing_Theory
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4189279
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242349758_Why_we_ignore_social_networking_advertising
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnewman/2015/04/28/research-shows-millennials-dont-respond-to-ads/

second of all,
>think sponsored search results, targeted news feed entries, sponsored social media posts, etc..
literally finish reading the sentence i wrote that you're responding to:
>so you get the introduction of things like 'sponsored content' and social media 'influencers'

+1 point to you though for making me respond to your dick in ass retarded post.

>>2444519
i don't wish it to be true, i just believe it to be. it's just one of those things that will be impossible to prove while it exists, because once you can prove it, it will be gone.

>>2443593
>an amazon marketing campaign.
I think you mean an Amazon referral link scam

>>2444478
True
And you are a complete and utter moron who doesnt understand a single thing about knife sharpening if you looked at the video and thought it was good.
You are an even bigger moron if you went out and bought it.

Its a perfect example of how his videos are bunk, and taking things at face value is useless.

>>2444536
You can find just as many articles telling you how useful they are.
Just for the record, I have paid for PPC ads before and know how well they work.
You are dead in the water with any ecommerce without them, and if you launch a product without a social media prescense, you will fail.

Every single gimmick in the book works, from PPC ads to landing pages. Not everyone is tech savy, not everyone has an innate hatred of ads.
They see something targeted to THEM on THEIR facebook feed, and they will click it and many times buy it.

My grandmother buys copious amounts of shit through this.
Its modern day QVC.

To pretend it isnt going to work on Youtube is just delusional.
Youtube literally implemented hotlinks on the right hand side of the screen to tell you what products were in the video so you can easily and quickly click on the affiliate links.

>>2443517
I remember seeing this on the news. Alf was the anchorman wasn’t he you fucking schizo?

I find that his tests are poorly performed, dont represent real world scenarios, or he introduces multiple variables. Take his recent hose clamp video, he never measured the teeth skipping point of each clamp when being tightened. He says he tightened it to a certain torque but each clamp might be able to handle an extra 1/4 turn. And I have no idea why he added a spring clamp, they have a whole different purpose and don't function like a worm screw clamp for a reason. How much does each clamp hold up at coolant temp? How about near a turbo? Or maybe a silicone hose holding two pipes together and seeing how well it grips. I could nitpick most of his videos. I like his lawnmower engine destruction videos because they are fun. But his tests aren't really real world like he claims.

>>2444512
I was using it as an example numbnutz, go walk into traffic.

>>2444363
Festool is great but probably not for reasons a diy user care about. The range of accessories and adjustments make fine detailwork easier and quicker. Dust collection this is the big one advantage nobody else comes close to with the exception of Mafell. The standard practise in my line of business is to leave the worksite spotless and if a couple 100€ extra on a tool make cleaning take 5 mininstead of 1h that extra money is soon returned.

>>2444536
>i don't wish it to be true, i just believe it to be
Same thing

>>2444697
ITT people who should start their own youtube channels and do testing and reviews. but they won't because they are just talk.

>>2444984
>just waste 40 hours each week becoming an advertiser whore
sweety, some people have full time non meme professions

>>2444984
The definition of *Not an argument* right here.

>>2444992
he doesn't accept sponsorships dumbass

>>2445129
Why take a few free products for sponsorships when you can just be an Amazon Associate and put out a bunch of affiliate links, while raking in AdSense revenue?
it makes more money that way, and convinces retards like you to spend money on garbage.

The wool is pulled over your eyes

For the people, by the people, uncorrected by large corporations.
Real mom and pop channel here!

Thanks to all the paid members of the channel!
And thanks to all the $5 superchat comments!
And thanks to all the monthly Patrons!
And thanks to all the people who are buying Project Farm Merch!
And thanks for everyone buying things through are huge list of affiliate links!
Also dont forget that Adblock is Piracy, if you were a REAL Project Farm fan you would be watching and clicking all of the ads in the videos!

>>2443452
I do enjoy his content. However he has done several tool tests that I've caught bias accidental or not in. Nothing specific comes to mind, so maybe I'll watch some of his vids and come back to you.

>>2445127
but it is the truth

>>2445258
Your statement wasnt an argument, or rebuttal, or even relevant to the post you replied to.
What "truth" do you think you posted?

>>2443471
why aren't you more angry?

>>2443496
This. Any company that makes shit products knows that any and all publicity is good publicity.

for every 1 person who really needs a reliable, good tool, there's 100 who just need something good enough.

>>2443462
are you retarded by any chance?

>>2445304
I being a bumblefuck?
Well aint that a sore dick deal!
First I deal with S&M with the wife (she sleeps while I masturbate with the ole cunt scratchers), now im finding out my common connectagazoink problem is because im a cunt hair into the dunderheaded zone?
What a craptactular thing to read on the smell fone this early in dew claws last saturday night!
Gotta piss with the cock ya got though, sometimes life is as hard as a wedding night pecker but you gotta just keep reefing on er.
Right fellow patron?

>>2444697
The real world has multiple uncontrolled random variables. If your product cannot demonstrate superiority in non-laboratory conditions then it's no better than the rest. Simple as.

>>2445314
>The real world has multiple uncontrolled random variables
Very true, which is why a bit of critical thinking and experience with those tools give you a very clear way to test a tool in the lab.
Too bad Project Farm in most cases refuses to do so, and does an half assed easy way out or outright refuses to do them and tests things that are worthless in the real world.
Why?
Is it a time crunch? Money crunch? Inexperience?
Who knows, but it makes his tests fucking worthless.

The fact people get upset that some random dude on youtube isnt an actual experienced expert in all manners of tools, and doesnt test them in good ways baffles me.
Hes just a regular guy with a camera, he isnt infallible.

>>2443747
Those are top of the line, no shit. The Tentavolt lithium AA's are excellent as well. I mean literally 4x the life of a normal AA.

nimh often don't have the rating to power devices properly so it causes (or can) weird issues.

>>2443465
redditors think they're main characters, its laughably embarrassing

>>2443456
I would like to see AvE go full autist turbo genius on a Project Farm style video.

>>2443747
>>2443754

Very insecure if you have to say one job is more manly than another job.

>>2445379
Would be skookum as frig fellow redditor!

>>2445129
>patreon isnt sponsorship
>affiliated links arent sponsorship

the sad thing is, there are ~2500 people unironically paying money to see glorified ad's

so much jealousy and butthurt in this thread.
guy has a good channel and he's helpful.

>>2445687
Patreon money doesn't steer a creator to be negative or positive, only to be informative. The affiliate links on the other hand always make creators over the fucking moon about anything they review.

>>2444292

>>2446160
>Patreon money doesn't steer a creator to be negative or positive, only to be informative
It steers creators to quickly and continuously pump out content which makes the content suffer in quality.
This is exactly why you get half baked tests out of him.

>>2446141
on god fr fr no cap

h8 us cuz they aint us

todd can shake off all the objective criticism and keep the vids rollin

helpin out all us new diyers know which pair of diagonal cutters to buy for when ive been juicing and can exert several hundred pounds of force with my bare hands, and need to chop hardened tool steel in half

#realtalk
#transpride
#BLM
#metoo (raped by mainstream toolbrands that arent amazon affiliate links)

>>2446418
so much cringe

>>2443517
truth. you don't fuck with big tool.

>>2443452
I like sandwiches!

>>2443456
>>2443462
>>2443472
>>2443502
I don't know who that is either, I never heard of AvE.

Even if his testing isn't ideal, it's better than blindly purchasing tools. I haven't bought a single tool solely based on his videos, but I have taken them into account.

>>2443754
>be engineer
>drive test vehicles
>make diagrams
>wire sensors
>program random shit
>use tools to instrument said cars
>if something sucks to do, can call a tech over whenever I want
>desk is basically storage

Not all "desk jobs" are painful.

>>2445309
You must be a big fan of the guy.

>>2450856
>Image title is sip3.jpg
I need to see the other sips now

>>2449973
If you havent been on reddit, you wouldnt have.

>>2450899
https://avedictionary.com/
Gotta get my upboats so I make sure to use the dictionary fellow patron.

>>2450905
Ah, I see. Who is it though?

I think I've heard the abbreviation before, those three letters together sounds vaguely familiar, but I don't know where I heard it.

So many annoying faggots (or maybe just one faggot) screaming REDDIT on and on ITT. Shut the fuck up.

>>2443452
They don't care about him. Even if he was a target, such as if he was the CEO of a massively successful competing corporation, there are more effective, covert ways to destroy competition, usually involving greedy politicians and fat stacks o' cash.
His tests are iffy too. Watched the knife sharpening video recently and the way he tests the knives is inconsistent, as well as the actual finishes on the knives. The tools themselves obviously just hold the knife in place so it can be worked on in very limited angles, but there is still a degree of technique involved that I don't trust him to have. An actual professional knife sharpener using each tool to the best of their ability as well as controlled, consistent testing would be far better.

>>2443471
He’s mocking you, but cope however you like

>>2443452
He doesn't use metric. Not a real scientist.

Doesn't even a have a database of results. No i wont watch the videos, just upload the results to a website ffs.

Fuck America

>>2450935
I'm pretty sure I've seen him use metric before.

>>2448586

>>2443452
Maybe those fucking tool company CEOs should just either make better tools or adjust their prices then

>>2450927
You have to go back

I wont lie, I cant wait for him to get the LTT screwdriver and shit all over it.

>>2451611
So mr "i dont take sponsorships" is telling people to send him tools now?

>>2447943
Your mom fucks with my big tool

>>2452244
That screwdriver was said to release in summer of 2022 and it s still "notify me when available" on the LTT store. And it only notifies you, you can't pre-order. It's probably gonna be crap at 70$, it looks like other Chinese crap but 2x the cost.

>>2452372
Ive been following it closer than I should be.
Its fully finalized and they are manufacturing and shipping the final tools now. They already have a few shipments already, and are getting ready to have a pop up shop at their office, selling ~2500 of them relatively soon.

Off the top of my head
>early on said it was going to be made in canada, name dropped Megapro (which that channellock is obviously ODM megapro)
>people started to say "its just a megapro with their name on it"
>came out and said the handle is their own design not megapro, and they only "licensed" something from megapro
>ratchet mechanism was originally going to be made in taiwan, they moved it to a chinese factory
>no black shafts, only chrome silver shafts now

So what exactly is made in canada, who knows. The plastic handles maybe?
Will it just be assembled in canada?
Did they just license the stupid bit holder handle?
The half sized bits are made in china.

I own a Snap On ratcheting screwdriver and would never buy one, im just sitting back and enjoying watching it unfold. Some youtuber making his own screwdriver with Chinese parts without a warranty for the same price as a Snap On.

>>2450056
this, or relying on brand loyalty
the more reviews of a product the better

>>2450056
>>2452385
You might as well be buying blindly with how shockingly bad some of his testing is.

His diagonal cutter video is a prime example of how he doesnt understand the underlying principles of the tool, and if you take the results at face value without prior knowledge you get the wrong conclusions.

Believe it or not, having very hard brittle cutting edges which chop hardened steel with marginally less force does not mean that they are better diagonal cutters.

There is a reason all the more expensive brands were tempered softer and took more pressure to chop thick nails.
Because believe it or not, when you use a dyke within its rated capacity with the materials it was made to cut, being tempered for toughness as opposed to hardness will result in FAR longer lasting tools.

But you would never know that because from test 1 he was chopping shit that was already outside of the tools rated capacity.

>>2443517
what was the hammer's brand? Seams very reliable.

>>2452244
He specifically says he'll buy it

>>2452384
>Some youtuber making his own screwdriver with Chinese parts without a warranty for the same price as a Snap On.
so basically its the same as snap off? meh. big news.

>>2452577
>so basically its the same as snap off?
Its the exact opposite of Snap On mr poorfag.

>>2452569
He implies that he would take it for free, or buy it if needed
Thats not really the militant "i dont take sponsorships" stance.

>>2452636
snap on is made with fucking chinese parts retard.
its "made in the usa" with chinese parts.
Look up the harbor freight daytona jack lawsuit, Fapoff tried to sue harbor fart because of copying their design. But then harbor fart said they didnt copy shit, just bought them from the same factory that makes parts for Snapoff jacks. The literal only difference is a few aesthetic parts and the fact that Daytona jacques are assembled in china versus SnapOOF assembling in USA. From chinese parts.
>yeah bro we hired a bunch of mexicans to screw together some chinesium parts, that'll be $1000
the S in Snapon stands for Scam
the N in Snapon stands for Nigga you serious?
the A in Snapon stands for American made WiTh GlObAl CoMpOnEnTs
the P in Snapon stands for Puerto Rican Labor, Chinese Components
the O in Snapon stands for Only dumb people buy this shit lmao
the N in Snapon stands for Nigger

>>2452909
>the S in Snapon stands for Scam
>the N in Snapon stands for Nigga you serious?
>the A in Snapon stands for American made WiTh GlObAl CoMpOnEnTs
>the P in Snapon stands for Puerto Rican Labor, Chinese Components
>the O in Snapon stands for Only dumb people buy this shit lmao
>the N in Snapon stands for Nigger
topkek

>>2452909
That SnapOn jack was clearly labeled made in china, and never pretended it wasnt. Pic related.
SnapOn also sells rebadged Hein-Warner made jacks, which are 100% made in the USA. They just cost more because HW jacks are the best in the business and arent cheap.

SnapOn only manufacturers bread and butter hand tools and toolboxes in their USA factories (out of usa sourced materials.)
This is what everyone is talking about when they talk SnapOn
Nobody is talking about that flashlight or cheap pocket knife with a snap on logo.
Everyone knows everything outside of handtools and toolboxes are subject to being rebadged.
Everyone knows their drill bits are Triumph Thunderbits and their Taps are Irwin Industrial. Their vise grips were GripOn and now are Malco.

Well everyone but you I guess.

You do also realize that the FTC is extremely strict about "made in the USA" claims right?
Obama actually strengthened the FTC labelling laws in 08, which is exactly why you had a bunch of brands like Dewalt scrambling to say they are "assembled" in the USA with global components as opposed to "made" in the USA.

This is exactly why Harbor Freight took up this sort of aggressive counterfeit/copycat marketing gimmick. Because of people like you who are unironically just dimwitted and dumb people who fall for it.

If it looks the same, it has to be the same. They told me the jacks were the same, so everything else must also be the same.
Icon steals SnapOns wrench shape and font, must be the same.
Doyle steals Macs font and color, must be the same.
Hercules steals makitas colors, must be the same.
Because dewalt assembles their tools of global materials, SnapOn has to too despite their labeling saying otherwise.
SnapOn is violating strict FTC labeling laws because, well because harbor freight coaxed me into believing it with their marketing team!

I didnt actually think there were retards dumb enough to fall for this nigerian prince tier marketing gimmick on this board.

>>2452923
And and directly from FTCs website in plain enough english that someone like you can hopefully understand.
Made in USA legally means "all or virtually all" parts of the tool were made in the USA of US made raw material. They have provisions to not include packaging like blister packs.

>>2452921
He spent more time figuring out acronyms than actually researching what he's talking about.
Top kek indeed

>>2443452
Nobody takes this fetal alcohol syndrome baby's unscientific tests seriously.

>>2452938
>surgeon generals warning says do not drink when pregnant, do not smoke cigarettes when pregnant, do not use illicit drugs when pregnant
>i have my 3 fat and ugly mormon wives here, were going to test that!

>>2452384
they arent even a good tool.
the bit holder is too thick for recessed screws you find in electronic repair, wera switchblade is just a much better design

>>2452923
My question for you is, why do Snap-Off Suckers purchase a MADE IN CHINA jack for $1000 when the literal exact same thing is available in harbor freight for $300? Hmm??
There is only one answer.
>b-but muh snap on shiny red i liek

>>2452994
The usual reason is they can't afford either, but they can afford another $20/week to the man driving the Strap-On truck.

>>2453346
Or Matco, or Mac, or Cornwell... Whoever he hasn't maxed out his credit with just yet.

>>2452923
Except the most expensive Daytona jack is almost the same as the Snap On. There was a lawsuit over it. It’s the same parts from the same factory with one or two different aesthetic pieces. Snap On bolts their together in the US for that “Assembled In The US of A” stamp and charges $100.

Watch the new Autismo PF video… except that news has been going around the internet for some years since the Daytona was released and people have been showing teardowns and comparisons. Snappy outsources shit from other manufacturers for their non-wrench stuff, and Harbor Freight happened to go to the same jack factory as Snap On for their supply. It’s not the only Snappy item you can get for much less money with a different brand on it.

>>2452994
>My question for you is, why do Snap-Off Suckers purchase a MADE IN CHINA jack
The only person who says they do, is you.
Mechanics that buy SnapOn tools dont use floor jacks like a peasant, just because SnapOn puts their name on a ton of rebadged shit doesnt mean its a hot seller or a good deal.
It does have repair parts available, and it does have a 4 year warranty as opposed to 90 days with Harbor Freight with no repair parts. And that may be valuable to some people. But floor jacks are for weekend warriors not SnapOns core userbase.

Lifts dont even cost that much money nowadays, and half of the weekend warriors have those too.

You can keep trying to harp on non hand tool and non toolbox SnapOn as if its relevant to their core tools.
They arent relevant, never have been, never will be.
And you obsessing over them is just cope that you cant afford quality domestically made tools

And thats fine, Harbor Freight exists for people like you where $300 is a large sum of money. You arent going to make money with those tools so it really hurts.

>>2453381
> Snap On bolts their together in the US for that “Assembled In The US of A” stamp and charges $100.
kek
Look at this absolute dumb fuck referring to the actual jack we are talking about, to a post with a picture of SnapOns website clearly showing the exact jack labeled as made in china

>>2453408
Yes because as you stated and as most of us know, they can’t call it “Made In USA” in the COO anymore because of legal stuff, which is why you see that Snappy shit advertised as “Assembled In USA”.

Lern2reed and differentiate those terms, it’s important.

>>2453411
>which is why you see that Snappy shit advertised as “Assembled In USA”.
The jack you are referring to is labelled made in china
They jack design didnt exist 15 years ago when they cracked down on FTC labeling laws, so its not an "anymore" situation with that jack.

All of their actual hand tools and toolboxes are made in their USA factory, and are labelled as Made in the USA. Not a "qualified" USA made claim where it qualifies large parts of the tool being foreign.

You arent even making a real point.

>>2453420
4u

Snap On in particular seems to have cut back on the “Assembled in the USA” the past couple years after a lot of bad PR from people paying $$$$ for shit made in China. The jacks and power tools were some of those items. COO would’ve still been China if you could find it, but “Assembled In USA” was always much more prominent on those items. If you were older than 14, maybe you would’ve seen that.

>>2453423
So you point is, the stuff they outsourced were correctly labelled per the FTC with the correct COO or with a qualified Made in USA of Global or Assembled in USA?

Thanks for letting us know that SnapOn was following the law.
Not sure how relevant that is to the discussion thought.

>If you were older than 14, maybe you would’ve seen that.
The irony is not lost on me, coming from you who documented your inheretance of your dead dads tools, and your first tool purchase on this website only a few years ago.

>>2453425
>first tool purchase
Yup, you got me.

And I know you’re 100% correct because this is the internet, but you started arguing because you misread “Assmbled in USA” as “Made in USA”, the exact thing that pissed off a lot of Snap On customers who were paying $700-$1000 for a Chinese jack that was being sold at HF for $200-$250.

It’s the same thing DeWalt and Craftsman are still doing with their stuff. A big ol’ American flag on the box and even on the tool sometimes that says “Assembled in USA” and you have to do a little digging in the fine print to find the true COO.

I made a post about how Snappy is selling a $250 Chinese jack for $1000 with the help of “Assembled in the USA” and you tried to start arguing about how the COO is really China, which is exactly what the post was implying.

Retarded.

>>2453405
>And you obsessing over them is just cope that you cant afford quality domestically made tools
I'm not American you useless burger shart. Why should I pay many times more for shart-off when same or higher quality tools can be obtained for less money from Taiwan and Japan? You aren't really going to try and claim that a $60 strap-on spanner is meaningfully better than a $24 nepros spanner or a $5 spanner from the various Taiwanese manufacturers? (The prices for fapoff and nepros are for a 10mm standard length combination wrench) right?
Just accept it faggot. You are buying fapoff because you are a brand whore.

>>2453405
As much as I hate HF for their dogshit warranty and no parts, that Daytona jack is one of the very few items with a real warranty of 3 years. Only the Super Duty model though, I believe the other Daytona stuff is 90-day.

They do have some available parts online, but not the shit you would want like seals. But since that seems to be the same mechanism as the Snappy jack, I’m going to assume you can get the seals with some Googling. I just found seals for this Craftsman jack from the 70s on Amazon with Prime shipping. But yeah, HF is gay with replacement parts.

>>2453459
With cheap shit just buy another one and keep the broken one around for "spare parts"

>>2453467
That’s $500+ for 2 jacks though, compared to a couple o-rings.

The complete seal and ball bearing kits for that 50 year old jack are like $40-$50 shipped, and the main seal I needed was $15 shipped, and I’ll order the whole seal kit next time something goes on it. That’s a lot less than buying a new Made in Japan jack.

Surprisingly a quick Amazon search for Daytona jack seals gave me fucking nothing, which is why I will likely get an Arcan next time I need to buy a jack. I didn’t even consider it when I paid $67 for my Pitt 3-ton from HF, but it would be gay to buy a $300 Daytona and you can’t find any consumables for it. They have like 4 parts available for it on HF’s website, the front and rear wheels, handle, and the pad IIRC, maybe the bolt that holds the handle in as well.

>>2453434
>I made a post about how Snappy is selling a $250 Chinese jack for $1000 with the help of “Assembled in the USA”
True, you asserted that the jack was being sold as "assembled in the USA"
You asserted it to a post, which quite literally has the snapon website screenshotted showing its badged "made in china"

I didnt "misread" it, you didnt bother to read the post or the look at the picture before clamoring on about it.
Now you are just backtracking as hard as you can.

Its a lot easier to just read posts before replying to them Bepis.

>>2453452
>I'm not American you useless burger shart.
A third worlder cant afford nice tools?
Not at all surprising.

>>2453491
>backpedaling
I saw the pic, we all know the COO is China, it’s the same factory as the Daytona jack. It was all said in my post. You started getting all salty because you don’t realize Snappy is one of those companies that has a bad history of selling $$ Chinese shit for $$$ with big “Assembled in USA” branding on it.

>>2453494
>I saw the pic, we all know the COO is China
Yet you asserted otherwise?

>You started getting all salty because you don’t realize Snappy is one of those companies that has a bad history of selling $$ Chinese shit for $$$ with big “Assembled in USA” branding on it.
Really?
Because I literally explained how and why they do that... in the post you replied to but didnt read.

The third worlder in a hut cant differentiate the american made SnapOn hand tools from their US factory and the outsourced ones from one of the 25 other brands and factories that SnapOn owns.

It sounds like you arent quite able to figure it out either.

>>2453495
Yes dude, reread the original post and go to bed and sleep on it.

>>2453381
>Except the most expensive Daytona jack is almost the same as the Snap On. There was a lawsuit over it. It’s the same parts from the same factory with one or two different aesthetic pieces. Snap On bolts their together in the US for that “Assembled In The US of A” stamp

Pls point to where I said it was manufactured anywhere besides China? Bolting together =/= “manufactured” and “Assembled In” =/= “Made In” It’s the same as the DeWalt tools with the flag on them because the case is screwed together by some Mexicans within US borders.

>>2453497
posts
>"Snap On bolts their together in the US for that “Assembled In The US of A” stamp"
as a reply to a post that shows that exact jack he is talking about being labeled "made in china" on the website

And has continued to rant and rave and pretend like he didnt do so.
I know you assumed it had the "assembled in USA" sticker on it, but it doesnt.

You backtracking and saying "well they sell some tools with that label, so it might have said it years ago!" just makes it look even worse.

The worst part is, the whole discussion was to teach mudhut man the FTC labeling laws, and explain how the core snap on tools are straight labeled "made in the USA" and not "qualified" aka "assembled" or "built".
He was making baseless claims that SnapOn was breaking FTC regulations because he has no clue what he is talking about.

You are a retard if you look at their jack or some ratchet straps or a flashlight that says SnapOn and think it has any bearing on their actual tools they actually make.

Yet since you fucked up and you misread the post, you were never on topic in the first place, and now talking in circles about something irrelevant.
So good on you.

Youve come in made the point that Qualified USA labeling exists (on a jack, even though it doesnt actually have a qualified label on it), said SnapOn has used it before, and thats pretty much it.

Your typical Bepis pretending to know what he's talking about post right here.

>>2453502
See >>2453423 and read.

>Qualified USA
>imblyign
>arguing against shit I never said

Didn’t even read the rest of it because you refuse to admit that Snap On pushed a lot of “USA Assembled” for years when it was Chinese crap, just like tons of other companies do, and the Snappy loyalists who figured it out got real butthurt. There were other times before right now, like a couple years ago when HF was fighting them in court over the jack and HF was pointing out how Snappy was borderline scamming customers.

>>2443456
Imagine being an ave simp. Very sad.

>>2454046
You only say this shit because you are behind a keyboard. Ave would fuckle your cockle hoof with a moose wing if you know what I mean

>>2454063
>fearing a Canadian

>>2444536
you use the word "literally" too much.

>>2452942
Mormon girls are pretty here, that's how they get you.

>>2443452
>2 years ago
Yeah he's at great risk all right...

>>2452287
I don't think your toolis rated for that kind of pressure

>>2443452
>WAAAAHHHH!! Popular youtuber is popular! WAAAAAHHH!!

>>2443593
He lives in the middle of nowhere so he can only really buy stuff on the zon

>>2443743
This is a schizo tier post
He's old and buys the shit people buy: Lowe's, HD, Amazon HF etc

His videos wouldn't be as good without the big spreads so he needs to fluff the big box store stuff with Amazon stuff. If anything, he exposes most of Amazon shit for the garbage it is

>>2444697
He does random shit with a homogeneous group because people ask

"Also test this related thing plz" so he tests it

He's not infallible but he tests most things in reasonable, real-world ways

>>2443452

>>2454765
You had my hopes up