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2416263 No.2416263 [Reply] [Original]

Hey anons, I want to build a swimming pool. I'm looking for some good depth so I can jump from decent heights without smacking the bottom, but length is more important to me so that I can do laps too. Would it be cheaper to do in-ground or above ground? What materials would I need to build it, and what would the price probably end up being? What is the cheapest way to go about this?

>> No.2416273
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2416273

1/2 I was thinking about this a lot too. I really want a 25m pool with a 10m deep end.

In Bali, I saw some eco resorts use shipping containers similar to the picture. They bought a 50ft container and split it in half like a hamburger. Then welded the two ends together to make a long hotdog shape, lined it with fiberglass.

Pic related. Google Blue Earth village Bali. You can see the pool on maps.

>> No.2416287

>>2416263
It will cost the same if you DIY it or have someone do it. And having someone do it will be better.

It's gonna cost you 30-40K, minimum.

>> No.2416293

>>2416287
Wouldn't the price be more or less depending on size as well? If I got one the same size as >>2416273 wouldn't it be a bit cheaper since it isn't as wide as a lot of pools?

>> No.2416304

>>2416293
Not as much as you think, if a pool builder has work lined up for normal sized pools there's no incentive for him to tie up his time and equipment on a job that pays half as much, especially when a pool half the size of a $40k one will cost more than $20k and certain materials/ equipment might even cost more if they arent typical stock units that suppliers get cheaper because everyone but you and your weird pool uses them.
The people who work for the pool guy don't charge half pay for building half sized pools.

>> No.2416305

Dig it out
Pour concrete
Fill with water...

>> No.2416307

>>2416287
Renting an excavator and bobcat for 2 days is certainly cheaper than hiring a company

Now, how to get all the wood needed for forming I dunno, maybe there's places you can rent it

>> No.2416321
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2416321

>>2416273
its not impossible to repurpose shipping containers into a pool elsewhere both safy and within code requirements but the fact that something happens in Indonesia is a poor indication of how viable a plan to do it somewhere else might be
(pic related)

>> No.2416367

>>2416321
A fact but not useful to this conversation.

>> No.2416372

>>2416307
Fiber glass molds. One section at a time.

>> No.2416384

>>2416367
It's completely useful if the OP want to do this outside of a 3rd world country with laughably lax construction and other safety standards.

>> No.2416393

>>2416307
I already own a tractor on my property. I might just spend the money on buying an excavator attachment so that I can use it to build motocross tracks too

>> No.2416402

>>2416393
If you have a larger property then diy-ing earthworks won’t be hard or expensive desu. Mark a hole, dig a hole, with an excavator/ tractor that’s half a day’s work.
Then on the next day you smooth out the edges and compact the dirt. Then if you go concrete route you essentially make a slab with walls.

>> No.2416404

>>2416263
>good depth so I can jump from decent heights without smacking the bottom
That part may be a bit of a problem. If you're talking a diving pool you're starting at 8 feet deep, and if you want a higher diving board it needs to be that much deeper. You'd definitely be going underground for that.
Some local codes may require treatment systems to ensure the water doesn't turn into a breeding ground for such lovely things as naegleria, legionella and dysentery, which means you may also have to do some electrical and plumbing work.
You could also talk to a pool contractor in your area just to get some prices. Might not be as unreasonable as you think.

>> No.2416461

>>2416404
I live outside city limits, so I wouldn't have to worry about city codes. I'll still get the electrical and plumbing work though because I want the water to still be clean

>> No.2416503

>>2416263
just bury a shipping container, rip the top off, and coat the inside with Flex Seal. That's what I did and it works great.

>> No.2416515
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>>2416503
> just bury a shipping container, rip the top off, and coat the inside with Flex Seal. That's what I did and it works great.

>> No.2416753

>>2416273
Did you really mean 10 meters deep because no normal rental excavator will get you there and you’ll need a lot of reinforcement to prevent it from collapsing when there’s no water in it yet.

Also an Olympic diving pool is only 5m deep for 10m diving height. 25m is pretty long too (half an Olympic pool). I used to do laps in a 9m pool, which is a bit small, but 15 or 20m should be enough.

As for digging, I don’t know how much you could excavate in a day with a proper machine, but 20x5x5 is about 80 large truck loads. Burying 2 containers back to back gives you closer to 12x2x2

>> No.2416794

>>2416503
lol i didn't know phil swift posts here

>> No.2416834

>>2416753
I'm not going to be jumping off any high dive board or anything, I'll probably just have a regular one maybe 2 feet higher than the deck surrounding the pool. As for distance, I am not looking for Olympic swimming or any of those, I am just looking to build a pool that's not too small for me to swim back and forth across and get maybe a light workout with.

>> No.2416884

>>2416834
you originally said you wanted "a 10M deep end" which is almost unheard of outside of maybe a military diver or submarine escape training facility.

just for perspective-
'The International Federation of Aquatic Sports (FINA) requires that all platform diving take place from a platform 10 meters above ground...
Needless to say, the pool has to be deep in order for a drop like that to be done safely.
... the country hosting the Olympics must abide by FINA's recommended minimum depth for 10-meter platform diving, which is five meters, or 16 feet, deep. "

>> No.2416889

>>2416503
aNd It eVeN wOrKs UnDeRwAtEr

>> No.2416934

>>2416884
Is there a water depth calculator for higher jumps? Need the number for a 35m jump

>> No.2416962

>>2416307
The excavation isn't the expensive part.

>> No.2416963

>>2416934
>Need the number for a 35m jump
Come on fren, life is worth living. Talk to somebody if you're feeling this way.

>> No.2416975

>>2416834
2 or 3m deep should be plenty unless you dive straight down. But in most of the pool you’ll want to be able to reach the bottom, so 1.5 or 1.6m.
In my experience you need about 4m width to make a normal turn (as in CW/CCW) doing breast stroke, or 1.5m if your doing front crawl and turn downward. So a comfy pool is probably 2x2 40-feet containers (24x4.6x2.4m) large.

>> No.2417009

>>2416503
pics ??

>> No.2417069

>>2416934
I'd go 30 feet and you'd be good enough

>> No.2417152

>>2416515
based lucky poster

>> No.2417287

>>2416273
Shipping containers were once cheap. They are not anymore.

>> No.2417300

>>2416263
>What is the cheapest way to go about this?
Get a pass to your local rec center and use their pool. You're seriously retarded if you think you're going to build your own and save any money.

>> No.2417304

>>2416884
I'm OP and never said that, that was a different anon. I want to make it maybe like 10 ft deep. I say "decent height", meaning at most jumping off like a small platform or something at most, and I don't need Olympic sized length and width for laps, I just didn't want everyone to recommend some retarded shit like a metal tin. I don't want a kiddy pool.

>>2417300
I'm not sharing my pool with others, you're out of your god damn mind. I'd rather just not get a pool at all if that's the case. I don't want to exercise next to some faggot kids who are probably peeing in the pool as I try to work out.

>> No.2417310

>>2417304
OP, cheapest way to go would be to dig a hole, add a liner and pump system. If you want to get fancier, you could put block walls up. There's people on youtube showing their diy block pools in the 20,000 gallon range that they built for ~3K$ in materials.

>> No.2417325

>>2416263
this is a massive project op and the fact you come to 4chan to ask for adivce indicates you have absolutely no fuckign idea how to go about it
its going to cost you alot of money, will get you in trouble from the city for having an unapproved WATER BODY on your property (they dont take kindly to bodys of water being installed improperly due to high amount of child deaths these cause each year ) and without a doubt you will cut corners in the cement and steel reinforcement and the weight of the water will crack it in no time at all. there is a reason why companys solely focus on bulding pools and there is a reason why ( you think they are expensive ) when in reality it is very cheap to pay someone to build one that is going to outlive your lifetime tsjx8
>tldr there is alot more to building a pool then digging a hole and filling it with water from a hose

>> No.2417532

>>2417325
this is the retard take. I've got a friend whose family was in the custom pool business for decades. Then prefabbed fiberglass shell pools became the norm in their area and they went out of business because they couldn't charge $50,000 to jerk themselves off anymore.
His family's take on it was that it was great while it lasted, but they can't make ridiculous money on it anymore like they used to.

Building a pool is approachable as a diy thing. Millions of other people worldwide have done it. Getting a well polished end result is a different thing, but a simple pool is really not a fucking masterpiece.

>> No.2417535

>>2417325
>city approval
Outside of city limits, doesn't apply to me
>child deaths
No fucking slimy little child faggot is getting on my property, let alone pissing themselves in my pool

>> No.2417648

>>2417287
how expensive are we talking

>> No.2417665

>>2417325
>they dont take kindly to bodys of water being installed improperly due to high amount of child deaths these cause
Most cities just have an ordinance saying you have to have a fence. Not necessarily around the entire yard, just around the pool is fine.

>> No.2418125

>>2417535
doesnt matter what your opinion on kids is, you are going to be fined and forced to fil lyour shitty pool in with concrete, and when you refuse to do that, you will be going to jail.

>> No.2418127

>>2417532
this is the poor mans take who likes to do the same thing no less then 3 times until he gets it right

>> No.2418135

>>2418125
Kids won't be on my property because it's on my rural land outside of city limits. It's not like they'd see it from the street so they wouldn't know, and because it's not in city limits, who's gonna force me to fill it? The state law enforcement? The feds?

>> No.2418150

>>2416321
>its not impossible
does it magically vanish if you try?

>> No.2418560

Someone post the guy who made an indoor swimming pool that looks like something off the deep web

>> No.2418598

>>2418560
I dnno why basement swimming pools aren't more common

>> No.2418690

>>2418127
>50K for a pool is a bargain!
You're not flexing as a richfag, you're just looking like a limp wristed faggot who is afraid to diy.
Some of the posts on this board are really not realistic or sensible to do it yourself (like making your own computer processor or making your own plane engine) but building a pool is imminently diyable.

>> No.2418896

>>2418135
anyone that comes to visit for a bbq will straight up narc you to whoever has authority over that kind of thing
>>2418690
your comment as stupid as it is is still welcome, i am just trying to save op from wasting his time and money but hey if you wanna jack hammer out rebar and concrete fine by me if you want to learn the hard way

>> No.2419774

If your handy and don't mind learning how to use an induction welder, you can always use PVC roofing. It's literally what DuroLast did.
>If we can keep the water in a pool, I bet we can use it as roofing to keep it out of a building

>> No.2419787

>>2418598
Those are commonly called either "leaks" or "FUCKING CALL THE PLUMBER WTF"

>> No.2419792

>>2416263
Build sides out of marine plywood.
Sand and cement mix bottom.
Have a liner company make you up a liner.

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2419793

>>2417287
>Shipping containers were once cheap. They are not anymore.
He needs to stop getting away with it.

>> No.2419870

>>2418896
I'm not inviting anyone over for a bbq except for some good friends I know that won't fuck me over. If you turn your friend in to the government for doing something that isn't hurting anyone you're a faggot

>> No.2419899

>>2416263
>but length is more important to me so that I can do laps too

get a pole, stick it into the ground, attach a tether to it. You can now swim in place for infinitey.

>> No.2419904

>>2419899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51gUaBTZGwA

heres how poorfag train. shitty above ground pool, some kind of velcrow tether tied to your ankle, swim in place forever in a little bitch pool.

>> No.2420676
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>>2416263
You can buy a lap pool that is prefabricated like the above ground type pools I looked into it and it's $4,000. This is my first post and do it yourself in 6 months, my air conditioning is nearly finished for my shed. The shed right now is 116°, the swimming pool as in the photo is only 95°.

>> No.2420684

>>2416287
Is it really that expensive in the US? I had my pool built around 6 years ago in the middle of rural France and it cost me 20k euros. I'd have thought considering taxes being lower and building materials being cheaper in the US that you'd be talking maybe 15k for a similar size

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>>2420684
Never included the pic

>> No.2420690

>>2417648
Shipping containers are something of a waste product. They get filled in Malaysia or China, shipped around the world, then emptied at the port in NA or Europe. Then somebody has to pay to ship it back to Asia, empty. No one really wants to do this, especially if the container is on it's last legs.

The long and short was that if you lived near a container port, and the economy was on a down swing, you could get a container for close to the cost of delivery. Of course now that containers are trendy, ports and shipping companies have realized they can recoup some of their cost and the prices have gone way up. Containers were never cost effective vs the equiv structure out of 2x4 and plywood if you didn't live near a container port.

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>>2420676
Why is your water, so uh... turbid?
Have you posted shed pics somewhere else on /diy/?

>> No.2421356

>>2416263
I own a pool. FUCK owning a pool unless you are rich enough to pay someone to do all of the work associated with it. You will spend hundreds of dollars each year and then use it like 10x max.
Go to your local swim pools

>>2420756
>implying that's turbid
Have you ever stepped foot inside of an outdoor pool before? Kek

>> No.2421377

>>2421356
>Have you ever stepped foot inside of an outdoor pool before?
Yes?
The water in my pool, and every pool I've known is clear (see to the bottom).
Does your water also look like someone has poured a bit of milk in it?

>> No.2421383

>>2421356
>unless you are rich enough
>hundreds of dollars each year
anon..... please consider valuing yourself more and then getting a job which does the same

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>>2416263
Have any of you ever looked into a swimming pond? I've been thinking about building a 92m^2 greenhouse with a small lap pool but I haven't learned much about swimming ponds or pools yet.

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>> No.2421996

>>2416287
You would have to be seriously retarded to spend 30k+ on a pool.
Just build it above ground out of wood with a plastic liner to keep the water in and It will cost a few thousand max.

>> No.2422028

>>2421356
I own a pool.
It has ruined public pools for me. I just can't they're too gross.
> 100s a year
... maintenance cost, amortized, are prob closer to 1000 to 2000 a year. Equipment does last forever.

>> No.2422673

>>2416263
>I want to build a swimming pool
if your weather doesn't let you use it for 8 months a year minimum don't bother building that shit

>> No.2422729

>>2416305
simple as

>> No.2422942
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2422942

>>2416263
a real man puts the pool indoors

>> No.2423414

>>2422942
I would be willing to sacrifice size if it meant I got to put my pool indoors.

>>2418560
I would probably do a basement pool like you mentioned if I did my pool indoors. I live in tornado alley so a basement is kind of a must anyways, might as well pimp it out