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2414490 No.2414490 [Reply] [Original]

is it safe to connect wires for house lights and outlets with electrical tape?
Why does everyone use those retarded wire nuts?

>> No.2414496

>>2414490
>is it safe to connect wires for house lights and outlets with electrical tape?
Probably not no.
>Why does everyone use those retarded wire nuts?
They create a solid connection that you can't easily rip apart while you're jiggling your outlets around.

>> No.2414502

>>2414496
>you can't easily rip apart while you're jiggling your outlets around
how often should I be jiggling my outlets around? I'm a new homeowner and didn't realize this was a common occurrence which warranted a strong connection

>> No.2414506

>>2414496
>They create a solid connection that you can't easily rip apart while you're jiggling your outlets around.

More importantly they create a solid connection that has minimal resistance to prevent excessive heat buildup that can cause fires even in fixtures and related wiring that aren't moving at all.

>> No.2414619

>>2414496
>>2414506
I want to use tape instead because the ceiling side wire is thicker and only a single copper wire whereas the fixture has multiple thin wires. I tried to use the wire nuts on both but only got one on there decently, so I just taped the other since I was tired of messing with it

>> No.2414631
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2414631

>>2414619
strip the stranded wire back slightly farther that the solid, use your lineman pliers to twist the stranded wire, then use them to twist the two wires together, then twist the nut on
lightly tug each wire to make sure theyre gripped by the nut

>> No.2414636

>>2414619
Tape is not going to make a sufficient connection here at all. A wire nut would be the bare minimum. I usually use Wagos when dealing with multiple gauges.

>> No.2414637

Ur supposed to twist them together with a pair of pliers idiot
The wire nut is just a cover

>> No.2414640

>>2414502
Have you ever installed an outlet in your life?

>> No.2414678
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2414678

All these inferior solutions can wire deez nuts. The future is now.

>> No.2414699

>>2414502
>He doesn't know about biweekly outlet inspections
Ngmi

>> No.2414703

>>2414636
Wagos are great for mixing stranded and solid like this

>> No.2414751

>>2414678
Unironically this. As satisfying as it is to get a really nice wire nut connection, these just make it so much easier and quicker, and you don't have to shorten the wire every time you need to change something.

>> No.2414752

>>2414502
You'd be surprised how much movement a receptacle might see, especialyl if it's TR and retard homeowners waggle the plug side to side instead of up and down to get the gates to open.

>> No.2414764

>>2414619
You're going to burn your house down without a proper connector. There are various sizes and styles of wire connectors
If you don't use them, you'll inevitably have your house burn down from your own retardation

Just get some lever locking connectors so you get a good contact every time

>> No.2414832

>>2414490
First, you are a retard.

Second, wire amperage is rated for copper at 140f. In theory all components of an electrical system are rated for 140f. This involves a lot of thermal expansion. Electrical tape, while fireproof, would weaken and fall apart since it is not designed for tensile strength.

Wire nuts create a mechanical connection between the wires, which is resilient to thermal and temperature stresses. Wago connectors are superior and reusable, so should be used instead. The cost of $1-2 per connector instead of 0.10 is worth infinite serviceability in theory. Wire nuts slowly destroy the ends of the wire.

Why can't you just twist wires with pliers and wrap? Same issue as using just tape. Even though they are somewhat intertwined, thermal expansion will destroy the tape.

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2414960

This makes the American seethe.

>> No.2415105

>>2414960
>This makes the American seethe.
but not as much as the fact that the great american honored in picrel had to explain how it works so europoors could gloat over the clippy-clips they use to hook up devices also made possible in large part through american ingenuity.

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2415108

>>2415105
Picrel

>> No.2415125

>>2414678
based wago chad
>t. service electrician

>> No.2415132

>>2415108
Every day you have to size that down a few pixels

>> No.2415384

>>2414490
If you solder - yes.

>> No.2415411

Wagos are high resistance and 10x the price. Europeans are literally retarded faggots

>> No.2415564

>>2414678
>internal bus bar vs direct connection
Wagos are nice for shit you're gonna be fucking with constantly, they're garbage for actual house wiring.
Euros hate wire nuts because they're limp wrist faggots who think twisting is too much effort and need some overcomplicated overexpensive method to feel better about themselves.

>> No.2415596

>>2414631
>High heels on ladder
Into the trash it goes. At least make her look like she wants to help me with my work. Too many hoes are out there, especially knowing how much they coopted and ruined nerd culture.

>> No.2416016

>>2414490
>electrical tape
>turns to goop 0.05 milliseconds after coming off the roll

>> No.2416254

>>2415564
Wago's are without any argument, the best option for a homeowner/diy'er.

>> No.2416286

>>2416254
They're objectively worse than wirenuts. Slower, more expensive, higher resistance. All these things matter to the homegamer *and* the professional.

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2416998

>>2414490

>> No.2417064

>>2414490
>>2414678
>>2414832
>>2415564

Admit it you all watch Great Scott and seethe don't you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjo36-jaFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Xpjj47vgU

>> No.2417079

>>2417064
>year of our lord 2020+2.58
>watching cucktube
never gonna make it

>> No.2417128

>>2417079
Nice argument

>> No.2417133

>>2414631
Three points of contact! OSHA, take her away!

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2417136

>>2415132
Bitcoin is melting away to

>> No.2417155

>>2417064
2 part video and you don't even have the goddamn common courtesy to spell out the main points.

Does your husband order for you at the drivethru too?

>> No.2417401

>>2414502
>I'm a new homeowner
>is it safe to connect wires for house lights and outlets with electrical tape?
Not for long, lol.

>> No.2417780

>>2417128
nice response

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2417787

>>2414490
Bait/10, OP hooked himself a lot of fish in this one.

Also, Wagofags are obnoxious retards.