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Check out this DIY device used to steal gas. Let's analyze this and figure out the parts, connection, and method.

Note: I don't condone or encourage anyone to do this.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/four-men-arrested-accused-of-stealing-gas-using-electronic-device-dallas-police/2966715/

>> No.2402317

>>2402313
i see no pipes. so i guess they activate and use the gas pump of the car.

>> No.2402319

>>2402313
looks more like a bomb

>> No.2402327

>>2402317
Damn, that would take a long time. Quick Google search says for a 300HP fuel injected engine you're looking at a 40GPH pump, which would take 30 minutes to empty a 20gal tank.

Did they caught taking a nap while waiting?

>> No.2402343

>>2402327
They’re stealing gas from gas stations. It’s a device that allows them to hack the gas pumps.

>> No.2402359
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>>2402313
Looks like something that generates a rotating magnetic field to cancel out the field inside the rotary encoder/pulser attached to the shaft of the dispenser's measuring pump. Probably why there's a speed controller and knob so they can fiddle with the motor speed in order to match the rotational speed of the pulser.

That's my guess anyways.

>> No.2402363

>>2402313
>bunch of 18650s
>pwm motor speed controller
whats those other two things? and how the fuck does that even do anything on a metal shielded device? is that giant thing just an electro-magnet? how does it then pumping the fuel?

>> No.2402416

>>2402359
if your doing that shit you are too smart to be stealing gas

>> No.2402433

Article with a video of it in operation:

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2022/05/24/gas-pump-manipulators-steal-millions-of-dollars-in-fuel-and-its-legal-in-florida/

>> No.2402444

>>2402313
>>2402433
the number of people simping for gas station operators is incredible. They could always return to manual forms of fuel pumps if electronically or electromagnetically controlled pumps are so easily manipulated.

>> No.2402446

>>2402444
Gas has shit margins anyway. The real money for gas station owners is in drinks and snacks

>> No.2402451

>>2402444
>simping for thieves
I think we should go back to cutting thieves hands off as punishment.

>> No.2402453

>>2402451
You live in a society that is completely overrun. If you're not getting in on the action it doesn't make you noble it makes you stupid. The system hates you and wants you dead (assuming you're white) so rob it blind

>> No.2402458

>>2402453
>act like a nigger, goy
No.

>> No.2402472

>>2402313
So how did they even get caught? Just have the device hidden away in a plastic box and only steal the last 20% of gas. It's gonna be too obvious if they fill up for 10 minutes but only have like 2 gallons of gas on the pump.

>> No.2402474
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2402474

>>2402458
Have fun following the rules into extinction faggot

>> No.2402665

>>2402343
Gas pumps pump gas without any "hacking". You don't own a car, or you would know it.

>> No.2402673

>>2402665
did you think this was an intelligent post?

>> No.2402676

>>2402673
Bots are spam retard posting in every thread on every board it seems.
It's a good thing for the site in the end. Eventually real anons will reply only to wit & earnest posters.
Meanwhile groomers & glowniggers applaud themselves for fascinating each other.

>> No.2402693

>>2402472
You've obviously never owned a vehicle with a clogged gas vent tube. I've had pickups that took could only handle about 1 gallon every 2 minutes other wise they trip the automatic stop on the pump.

>> No.2402697

>>2402693
The filler necks are rarely clogged but many are restrictive until you unbolt and gut them to remove the anti-siphon device.

>> No.2402698

>>2402343
Ah, got it. That's what I get for not reading the actual article and going off of what someone else wrote.

>> No.2402702

>>2402313
>>2402433
hey that's pretty cool

>> No.2402706

>>2402313
>stealing fuel is legal
if you are allowed to just open the pump and put electronics in there just bring a tanker truck and suck all the fuel out of the storage tanks right? as long as the number doesn't go up they can't touch you for it
fuck me americans are retarded
its literally fraud

>> No.2402709

>be 2008
>gas is 4.00 a gallon
>i’m poor
>at junkyard
>find racecar fuel pump
>steal it
>have empty 55 gallon drums
>have work van
>drill hole through bottom of van
>put two drums in van
>fish 1/2” fuel line through van
>go to closed gas station
>park over the spot they pump fuel into the storage bins
>turn on fuel pump
>pump 110 gallons in 30 minutes
>leave
>sell gas to Chaldean’s
>profit

>> No.2402712

>>2402693
must be a ford truck

>> No.2402722

>>2402359
Found the leet gas thief

>> No.2402818

>>2402712
Both were Chevy's actually, a last gen S10 and a half ton Silverado. They put the vent tube in the wheel well, so after driving in muddy conditions it would clog up. To be honest it was only an issue on California pumps with their stupid fume stop requirement, when I filled up with regular free state pumps it wasn't a problem.

>> No.2402841

>>2402676
I'm not a bot.
>>2402665
It's not brilliant, it's just setting straight a retard who thinks you need 1337 hacking to get gas without paying. All you need is fake plates, since pumps just werk and it's mainly decency (and fear of cops if you don't have fake plates on) that makes people pay for their gas.

>> No.2402846

>>2402841
depends.
the pay-at-pump ones only turn on once you insert your card and put in your pin.
see those more often than the dumb ones these days.

>> No.2402950

>>2402841
I've never once seen a gas station that lets you pump before paying.

>> No.2402992

>>2402709
Respect, and noted, war boy.

>> No.2403016

>>2402950
What's it like to not live in a 95% white area?
But yeah don't sreal gaa niggers.

>> No.2403048

>>2402706
they are the same people thinking that banning guns will stop gun violence, make sense to you now?

>> No.2403060

Just cut the locks off the fuel drops and pump the gas out.

>> No.2403065

>>2402950
That's what happens when you live near niggers. Niggers moved into the small town I grew up in and now they're credit card or prepay only

>> No.2403072

>>2403060

Too much damage?

That OPs thing, you could hide it in a box you're holding and steal the gas in broad daylight with 100 people watching and they wouldn't even notice anything except some guy pumping gas with while carrying a box of something.

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2403073

>>2402841
Can you self-terminate?

>> No.2403075

>>2402327
On my 200 hp 2L engine I emptied the gas tank onto the road in less than 2 minutes. I bet you there is still a gas trail a year later.

>> No.2403095

>>2402313
The little radar dish points them to gas.
The black thing with the pipes on top pulls gas from the air to the smiley device next to it that sends it from the tiny red pipe to the board.
The board converts the gas into energy that powers the smiley device, allowing it to send more gas to the board, the overflow goes to the tiny tank with the red lines showing how full they are.
The bolts are for show.

>> No.2403168

>>2402950
Try living in a white country.

>> No.2403214

>>2402841
>pumps just werk
used to be like that here, but no more. you either have to pay at the pump or prepay inside.
>>2402313
I see a chinkshit dimmer, counterfeit wago, battery, some antenna looking thing and a mystery box.
Is it just me or does the mystery box look photoshopped? I wonder if they released a fake picture to avoid people reverse engineering it.

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2403282

>>2402709
This is probably the future.

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2403293

>>2402416
You're never too smart for petty theft anon.
The biggest brains out there are criminals on the side.

SWIM used to recycle bus cards in the 90s while getting a CS degree.
That same SWIM later figured out he could pull his card out of a specific ATM while cash was being deposited to cancel the transaction and get his money.
SWIM later graduated to yoinking electric cars using an arbitrary signal generator
SWIM is now in federal prison for GTA looking at a lucrative career as a fed informer for ass security

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2403381

>>2403214
>I see a chinkshit dimmer, counterfeit wago, battery, some antenna looking thing and a mystery box.
>Is it just me or does the mystery box look photoshopped? I wonder if they released a fake picture to avoid people reverse engineering it.
36V from 4 9V batteries power a switching car battery charger to step it down to 14, a PWM generator then sends pulses to a repurposed EMI filter coil with some kind of brass protrusion which could be used to confuse some kind of Hall sensor.

The least plausible part is the brass thing since it's not magnetic

>> No.2403383

>>2402453
>If you don't commit petty crime and risk jail time doing it you're just stupid
That's stupid. If you're going to rob the system blind, apply for gibs. If gibs fail, pretend you're some bipoc minority and then reapply for gibs.

>> No.2403465

>>2403383
is there a guide on how to do this? What if I identify as a black woman?

>> No.2403782

>>2403465
>What if I identify as a black woman?
Any guide will be too complicated for you then.

>> No.2403920

>>2402319
it's clearly a clock the invented

>> No.2403966

>>2403782
Lets just say that I am a black woman's soul trapped in a white male's body, or whatever the whole tranny logic is. I'm guessing I would need some sex change form, but race change? would they even notice? Is this something they even check for? I could put on blackface and a wig and go get my photo-ID reissued so at least they'll be confused when they check the records. If trannies can get away with this so can I.

>> No.2404042

>>2402363
its not pumping anything, its to trick a gas station pump to charge less to nothing when you pump gas. how much of a nigger do you have to be to think you can only steal gas from a cars tank

>> No.2404108

>>2402451
if you are using an easily defeated technology society should not have to pay with increased legislation for your fuckup. They could also only have attendants pumping gas if this was a problem.

>> No.2404122

>>2402416
>if your doing that shit you are too smart to be stealing gas
It's just an underground start-up. Figure something out and sell it to the cartel or local mob

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2404423

>>2402359
>>2402416

>> No.2404641

>>2402313

As the fuel pump inside the gas pump runs a small rotary encoder on the pumps motor keeps track of how many times the pump rotates and that is how the pump keeps track of how many gallons of fuel are being dispensed.

This device is simply a rotary encoder hooked to a gear reduction motor that turns much slower than the pump and the thieves simply unplug the stock encoder and put their encoder in its place to fool the machines into thinking that the pump is actually turning very slowly, Even though in reality the pump is at 100%.

>> No.2404658

>>2403381
>mystery box
thats a led light power supply, they hooked it up to their battery pack to step up or down the voltage to whatever they need it to

>> No.2404738

>>2404423
thats a good disappointed face

>> No.2405029

Can you vacuum gas out of the pump?

>> No.2405040

>>2405029
i bet you could, but i also expect you could suck a golf ball through a mile of garden hose

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2405055

>>2404641
OP here. You have won, anon. Congratulations!! In your honor, a tranny will an hero, and 500 kittens and puppies will be leave animal shelters and go to loving homes.

>> No.2405065

>>2402433
this shit looks like brazilian tech. it´s this way the steal on the pump at gas station, the numbers roll, but you think it´s going correctly the gas, but is going less than you paid.
What they do now, is steal 5% so is not so easily noticeable but at long run enrich the owner.

>> No.2405299

>>2405029
no you cant. there are magnetic valves shutting the connection to the tank, and a pump you cant really suck stuff through

>> No.2405304

>>2402706
The device is legal to possess. Using the device to steal fuel is not.

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>>2402313

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2405308

>>2402676
>Bots are spam retard posting in every thread on every board it seems.
>It's a good thing for the site in the end. Eventually real anons will reply only to wit & earnest posters.
>Meanwhile groomers & glowniggers applaud themselves for fascinating each other.

>> No.2405557

>>2405308
i wanna party with YOU, cowboy

>> No.2405827

>>2403383
The vast majority of people on govt assistance are white and poor.

>> No.2405829

>>2404042
Someone who doesn’t think about stealing often?

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2406007

People who steal from their own community are scum, and must be punished. If thieves and crime runs rampant the community becomes shit and good people and things suffer and die.

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2406010

>>2405827
>The vast majority of people on govt assistance are white and poor.

Majority meaning over 50%, vast majority, somewhere around 75% or more.

You wouldn't just go on the internet and spread lies would you?

SNAP recipients White: 37 percent

https://frac.org/blog/new-usda-report-provides-picture-of-who-participates-in-snap#

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>>2405827
>The vast majority of people on govt assistance are white and poor.

Majority meaning over 50%, vast majority, somewhere around 75% or more.

In the US the white population represents 61.6% of the population, all things being equal one would expect white people to be the majority of people on government assistance.
>SNAP recipients White: 37 percent
This means white people are significantly underrepresented.

https://frac.org/blog/new-usda-report-provides-picture-of-who-participates-in-snap#

You wouldn't just go on the internet and spread lies would you?
I think you may be in need of a free, one way, government funded helicopter ride.

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2406222

oy vey! don't steal gasoline from our petroleum cartels, goy!

think of all the good that gas companies do in the world! how would they fund that if everyone stole and reduced our profit margins?

>> No.2406667

>>2406014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi0HGYftyLQ
Unironically, fix up your shit over there, America has such a massive potential to not be just a petro-cartel with mediocre development for it's average citizen

>> No.2406897

>>2402709
you ain't from Michigan if you never did this befo

>> No.2406910

>>2402697
Anon didn't say filler tube. He said vent. I have a stuck fill vent on my Camry, I'll be replacing prolly Friday. If you'd like more info about it I'd glad to explain it.

>> No.2406911

>>2402950
They exist. There are fewer every day.

>> No.2406912

>>2402313
Carged with "theft of a petroleum product"
I didn't know that was a special class of crime.

>> No.2407523

>>2403293
Are we on fucking blue light? We know you're talking about yourself dipshit, were you dropped as a baby?

>> No.2407982

>>2402416
No shit sherlock what happens as society implodes is that people who are too smart to be doing dumb shit are forced to do dumb shit out of survival. Gasoline is the difference between going to the grocery store or to to work or picking up the kids after soccer practice. A desperate man with an intelligent mind is the wrong kind of man to fuck with surprised they didn't have a no way out exit strategy .. i suspect robberies will skyrocket