/diy/ - Do It Yourself

it's best to start planting some vegetables and learn about just them then when you continue you will know the basic about many plants.

>>214337

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6320912252148666793

Looking for something like this OP?

>>214639

OP here. Wow! Thank you. Great video. I'm thinking of gathering money and buying myself a farm. I want to know who planted and treated what I eat, and what chemicals was used or not. I think it's a privilege to follow a plants life and harvest the fruit yourself.

It would be good preparation for the zombie invasion as well.

On top of plants, if you do decide to get a farm, consider raising hens. They lay eggs year round without a rooster present. Also consider guinea fowl as a sort of watchdog for fox, so you don't lose your chickens, they're loud as hell, and can give you time to grab a rifle.

>>214639
Not OP, but thanks so much!

>>214675

>wants plants without chemicals

hey city boy, heres a fact, 100% of your organica plants have been subjected to chemicals.

dihydrogen monoxide, potassium sulfates, calcium sillicates, nitrogenous wastes

better just eat meat only

but in all seriousness its people like you that make my friend rich as fuck

he lets cows out on his land. doesn't feed or water them. gets to label them as "free range grass fed cruelty free" and sells the meat, normally 1-2$ a pound for 15-20$ instead, because people like you are dumb as fuck

>>214749
That is obviously not what he is referring to. Stop being jokeingly pedantic.

>>214749
Anon didn't say NO chemicals you ass. He said he wants to know WHICH chemicals.

There is a big difference between putting bone meal (lots of phosphorus) in the soil and spraying all your plants with chlorpyrifos (widely used insecticide that has been shown to alter brain development in children and animals). Both are chemicals, obviously.

I agree that people who are afraid of "chemicals" in general are idiots.

>>214749

Ranch =/= Farm

>>214749

It's OP again.

Haha. You're the biggest turd ever. Firstly, I'm vegan. So in reality I'm making your friend poor by advocating this lifestyle. Secondly, "meat only" is what gives you that blood pressure that makes you harass me for trying to learn something. Now fuck off.

>>214710
Yes, thanks, I've been thinking of including hens on my farm, they poop good and help me make a good compost. And someone in the collective would probably enjoy the eggs, or you can just give them away since I don't eat them.

>>214752
Exactly. Depending on how you define it, carbon's a chemical as well, as it is involved in almost every organic matter and it reacts with other molecules. Bah.

>>214675
>I think it's a privilege to follow a plants life and harvest the fruit yourself.

No, it's a pain in the ass.

And all organic molecules contain carbon.

>>214675

Majored in (chemical) engineering, almost got my PhD (optimization of chelation-processes; liquid fertilizers being a simple but well known example)

> Family be proud and high expectations all around.
> Spontaneous job offerings on a monthly basis.
> 'You're gonna earn big moneys.' all the time.
> 'What do you want to be?' all the time.
> 'What's your dream job?' all the time
> tfw 'a farmer' is my honest answer.
> mfw their reactions ;_;

>>214749
so 90% of the cows from mexico can be labeled like that?

I know the names of the cows i eat, Mary was a dumbfuck, Peter was an asshole, but Jennifer was an awesome cow. I dont know why but peter tasted magnificent.

>>214749
>"people like you are dumb as fuck"
There are many people who are dumb as fuck. Unfortunately, you are one of them.

>>214337
im interested in carnivorous plants recently. i grow drosera capensis and venus fly traps. they are easy if you do ur research and use the right soil and distilled/ rain water.

i also have mimosa pudica (sensitive plant).mimosa moves when you touch it, it is easy to grow and seeds are cheap as fuck.

>>214749
Hydroponics
Hydroponics
Hydroponics
Hydroponics.
Deep water culture floating raft technology requires no pesticides or herbicides and produces such a anual yield at such a low cost that 40% of your food comes from this method already.

organic food logic is retarded
>dont like chemical fertilizers

>depend on cow shit to provide those same chemicals to plants

>shit also provides e coli to the plants

Soil! Delicious, live-giving soil.
Nom nom nom

>>215059
Huh? Have you ever grown plants hydroponically and in a traditional manner on a noteworthy scale at the same time? (I have/do)

The need for pesticides is practically the same in both. Hydroponics do indeed obsolete herbicides, but compensate due to being more prone to fungal disease, and thus have a larger (though still small) need for fungicides. Although imho a decent gardener rarely has any use for herbicides or fungicides.

Also; random pragmatic thought;
>Deep water culture floating raft technology
Fancy euphemism for some styrofoam floating in bubbly water. Call it what it is, instead of going with the whole hydroponics-hype.
It has it's (incredible) uses, especially when it comes to vegetative growth, but it's not miracle-'technology'.

>>215087
Hipster faggot detected.

The 'fundamentals' of gardening is to stick stuff int he ground and give it some water.

You will start from scratch with each plant if you're trying to educate yourself on them. Google/read some books about soil composition and what the plants you're trying to plant want, they all have different needs and vulnerabilities. Your local farmers bureau might have help.