/diy/ - Do It Yourself

How to build your own underground home - Ray Scott
Libgen [dot] is/book/index.php?md5=C66481A9BBBC3C114090B2EF9BF9573E

A little dated (1985) but shows the construction of an underground house using masonry bricks and a poured concrete roof. An enjoyabke read even if you don't plan on building one. A little heavy on relying on contractors in some small parts though.

>>2044405
There are people who have done the gingery on youtube
Huge waste of time, snake oil to sell kids books in the 60s

>>2044416
What particular issues did they have with the machines?

>>2044416
This. Just buy a used American-made metal lathe. It will be faster, probably cheaper, a way better quality. Atlas made decent metal lathes and they are super common. There were also sold by Sears under the Craftsman name. South Bend also made good stuff, though they are more pricey than the Atlas models. Shit son, you can even upgrade some of the beefer wood lathes into metal lathes by adding a compound slide and tools rest. Rockwell/Delta sold these for their larger wood lathes. Seeing as I got my Rockwell wood lathe for $30 at a school equipment auction you can't beat that. I also have a South Bend that I paid $250 for (with a bunch of tooling). If you have a way to move it and access to high voltage or three-phase power you could skip benchtop lathes and go straight to a real metal lathe. Big ones often go for very little money because hobbyists don't have space for them and businesses don't want used equipment.

That said, metal lathes are an expensive hobby. You will spend way more on tooling than you will on the lathe. WAY more. Price out a box of carbide inserts sometime. If you think good drillbits cost money you are in for a wake-up call.

>>2044446
Accuracy and rigidity.
Have you not looked anything up before?
Cast aluminum beds in a lathe? Really dude?

>>2044498
Isn't that kind of self evident? I wouldnt be milling to 1 thou on a lathe I built out of scrap. I don't view it as any different than the "cnc" machines on Amazon made out of MDF and aluminum. Still a cool book imo

>>2044589
>I wouldnt be milling to 1 thou on a lathe I built out of scrap.
Yet you can be turning to tenths, with little to no taper, on harbor freight lathes. And all those take is a click of a button and wait a week, then you are machining stuff.
As opposed to reading 7 whole books and throwing it all together, spending months of work not actually machining. Not to mention it will more than likely cost more.

I remember reading it and him talking about how he was buying scrap made me laugh at how outdated and wrong it is.

>>2044494
what can you make with a lathe? i want to get into making stuff with my hands but dont know where to start

>>2044627
Lathes are very versatile, you take the piece of material you want to work and spin it, then apply your tool to it to shape it. If you're starting out then you should try a wood lathe because they cost fuck all and you can make some cool shit without spending a billion dollars on tools and materials. Just check out wood lathe videos on youtube and you'll get ideas quick.
Metal lathes are more of an investment (substantially) but they are versatile and very accurate.

>>2044627
>what can you make with a lathe?
Round and cylindrical things
You want to make flat and square things, you get a milling machine

>>2044648
>>2044654
cool, i used to do some woodworking as a kid with my knife and file. they really are cheap as fuck, prolly start with one one of those.
communist made manual metal lathes from the 1960s cost like one paycheck and i have the space for it.

>>2044661
Get a mill b4 a lathe

>>2044674
get a lathemill before a mill

>>2044405
Over at /wwg/ they're always praising "Tage Frid Teaches Woodworking" but I've never been able to find a copy for a reasonable price, and can only find book 2 of 3 pirated. Anyone have a hookup?

>>2044674
A lathe is easier to pick up and cheaper to buy

>>2044760
>book 1: joinery
If it doesn't teach practical knowledge like using screws and wood glue, then ill pass thanks.

>>2044494
I read a few and old timers used manual lathes hard. Hard bros.

>>2044949

Pretty much anything by Eric Sloane.

>>2044674
>>2044693

I say lathe before mill as well. I find a lathe to be much more useful overall. I probably fire up the lathe 4-5x more often than I do the mill.

Back to basics by reader's digest. One of the best books ever. Read that thing cover to cover 100x when I was a kid.

https://www.amazon.com/Back-Basics-Traditional-American-Skills/dp/0895770865/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=back+to+basics+readers+digest&qid=1614701372&sr=8-3

Metalworking Sink or Swim.

https://www.amazon.com/Metalworking-Sink-Swim-Machinists-Fabricators/dp/0831133627/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=machinist+tips+and+tricks&qid=1614701470&sr=8-1

>>2044405
Those are projects for people who already have machine tools with which to build them, not reasonable ways to obtain machine tools, but the they are educational to read.

Industrial machine tools can be had reasonably and moved easily with some (a lot if you want to be good at it) effort. Auctions and estate sales (be willing to drive a few hundred miles to get what you want, fuel and time are cheap) are great sources and if you have bros with home shops you can help each other with logistics and splitting purchases (like lots too much for one person to store or use).

>>2044598
It is dated but it's less about what you can get and more about what you can make. For someone that wants to experiment with sand casting and understanding tolerances in practical applications, it's a great series of books.
As someone trying to make all of the equipment to turn a profit or to start producing anything in mass, it's a no go.
Journey over destination mindset and enjoying the craftsmanship you'll have to hone to make something like this is the real idea

>>2044792
But less capable

>>2044816
what kind of fucking brainlet needs instructions to join with screws?

>>2044760
You can buy them used for ~$10-15 each, like $60 new for the set. If this is too much for you, wood working is probably going to be out of your budget.