/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>use an image that looks like a drone!
Dumb retard.

>>2017328
maybe create the general before OP does next time faggot

>>2017348
The thing is that he complains when it's not clearly a drone.

>>2016957
I think I've asked you this before but I forgot what you said and am going to ask again. Why are you looking at the 2814s over the Brotherhobby 3115s? The 3115s have much more thrust on 10 inch 6s, ir are you going for longer flights over anything else? Would the smaller motors offer more flight time even with less thrust? I suppose they weigh like 20 grams less but the thrust figures im seeing online are like 500-700 grams more on 10 inch props.

Balsa flies better

I want to make my own plane rc but I have no prior experience/materials. ~50 dollar budget, can I gut a walmart drone/plane and turn it into a plane, if so any recomendations? or can i buy the parts cheap online elsewhere?

>>2017642
You can't even get a decent tx at that price

>>2016957
can some one explain why you guys use quad copters instead of a gyrocopter? is it worth it to use 4 propellers instead of 3 ? i understand that tilting the means by which you can climb and be forced to descend some when moving forward is a hinderance but why 4? can any of yours do advanced maneuvers that didnt require pricey ic modules?

>>2017328
You're the dumb retard if that doesn't clearly look like a quad to you.

>>2017462
There is more to choosing a motor than just picking the one with the highest thrust at 100% throttle, especially if you're building something that isn't going to be pegging 100% throttle. Efficiency at mid throttle is far more important to me. The new BrotherHobby 2810 might even be what I go for in the end, but there's no tests of them yet.

>>2017642
A plane itself can easily be made for $50, but as >>2017644 points out you need to buy some basics like a radio & batteries/charger first.

>>2017660
>can some one explain why you guys use quad copters instead of a gyrocopter?

Gyrocopters are quite different to multirotors, they're more similar to planes from what I understand - they need forward motion to take off, stay airborne, etc.

>is it worth it to use 4 propellers instead of 3 ?

3 motor multirotors exist (tricopters), they're unique amongst all multirotors because they tilt the tail motor to control yaw by thrust vectoring, rather than by changing the balance of CW vs CCW torque of all of the motors. The tilt mechanism adds a lot of complexity & potential source of failure though, so quads are far more common. Four is the smallest sensible number for mass market application.

>can any of yours do advanced maneuvers that didnt require pricey ic modules?

Multirotors need a microcontroller & A MEMS IMU to fly, they're literally not possible to fly without. But that doesn't have to be pricey, you can buy a full modern flight controller for <$20.

Which FrSky flight controller would y'all recommend for a drone? They have a ton of options

>>2017660
gyrocopters are very different from multirotors as >>2017801 mentioned they are more like planes. The rotor acts as a lifting surface as well as control surface, but requires a propeller for thrust. They can't hover like a helicopter or multirotor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4TcXT0jp8Y

>>2018062
I don't think I've ever actually seen anybody use a FrSky flight controller, in all the years I've been in this hobby.

>>2017801
So of the 2810, 2814, and 3115 which would you assume would have the longest flight times.
Also what about the Brotherhobby 2812?

>>2018194
Is there something wrong with them? I love their radios and recievers

>>2018341
Each one will have a particular AUW & flying style for which it's best suited.

>>2018427
There's no real benefit to combining FC & rx into a single unit, especially as the rx is a daughterboard rather than part of the same PCB. If anything it's a bad idea because the rx is a less common part (they use a ribbon connector iirc) & you lose flexibility on the FC as one set of UART rx/tx can't be easily broken out from that ribbon connector like regular pads can.

Is there a way to install another camera facing me and have the image picture in picture in my goggles? I hear people coming up behind you when you are flying and groping you is a real problem in the fpv community and i'm afraid it will happen to me. Currently i'm either flying with my back to a wall or to my pickup or i'll fly alone but I want to be able to see what's behind me so i'll feel a bit better and be able to see if someone tries to fuck with me and touch my ass or something. I was thinking i'd put it on a small tripod, i can set up another camera and vtx really easily, but I don't know if its possible to like, use a base station receiver connected to my laptop to receive video from both my drone and my other camera, process it so it puts one picture inside the other up in the top left corner and i'll plug my goggles into my laptop with the micro hdmi cable or use a third video transmitter to send it wirelessly on a third channel to my goggles. The problem is, i'm not sure what program I could use to do this with my laptop.

Has anyone else placed a camera on their back or a rear facing tripod for situational awareness while flying?

>>2018901
>I hear people coming up behind you when you are flying and groping you is a real problem in the fpv community

Literally what the fuck. What sort of shithole country do you live in?

>>2018901
What the fuck did I just read?

>>2018901
>no dont do it, i am a virgin

What's the advantage of using two separate cameras (analog FPV + HD DVR) over something like pic related that can do both? Latency?
Is there much of a difference?

>>2018985
The quality of something like a GoPro 8 or 9 shits all over any of the Split style cameras. For smaller builds that can't carry a proper HD camera then Split style cameras (or just the DJI FPV system) are great, but they simply don't compare with a proper GoPro.

>>2018744
>Each one will have a particular AUW & flying style for which it's best suited
Well Im going for the longest flights I can get, but Id still like to be able to do some acro. I also would like to be able to switch between 9 and 10 inch props, since 9" seem to be more available. Thinking about it the difference between the 2810, 2810, and 2814 is probably minute, but Ive only ever seen people use those 2810s on 8 or 9 inch.

>>2019001
GoPro is also like 5 times more expensive though. I'm too much of a jew for that.

>>2017328
>he can't tell

>>2019019
I can, not that I need to because I simply search for "rcg" when looking for the thread.

>>2019011
If you really want to min/max flight times, you just need to look at thrust tests with efficiency values & extrapolate from there, maybe start playing around with eCalc. This is a more complex area than can be answered with a simple 'which is the best motor' question without taking a lot of variables into consideration.

>>2019014
You never mentioned a budget, I was just answering whether there was much of a difference/what the advantage was.

>>2019024
Bit more of a pain in the ass than Im wanting to deal with, maybe Ill just go with the 2814s and hope for the best.

>>2019014
Get a used one, or a chink knock off.

>>2018901
This must be bait.

>>2019043
HD cams are one of those things where the Chinabrand stuff can be maybe 80% as good, but the GoPro still has a fair edge. Especially when it comes to IMU based stabilization, which is a complete game changer for FPV quads, nothing touches GoPro/Osmo/Insta360.

>>2019043
>>2019075
You can literally fly through branches & the camera witchcrafts it out.

>>2019078
Would help if that analog camera wasnt out of focus.

>>2019079
Blame the way that webm encodes. You get the idea though, from the movement.

>>2018901
>>2018905
I've only heard that ONCE and it was zoefpv so it is highly doubtful.

Trying to build my first mini quad, I posted a pastebin in the previous general: https://pastebin.com/ZrSR9uQp
Any suggestions on a 6S battery that's about 1500 mAh to order in the US?

USB / Cleanflight problems. I'm pretty new to the hobby, and have been too busy the last few months. I plugged in my drone and had problems connecting to cleanflight. After a bit, I plugged in the battery, and it connected.

However, when I powered up today, it isn't accepting the switch commands from the Tx ( It's binding ok ). When I plugged it into my computer, I'm again getting the serial port error.

Any idea why I would be getting inconsistent function? Shit is driving me crazy.

How do I connect a standard 3 wire PWM gimbal to a receiver that only has Sbus out (and goes to an F4 flight controller)?

>>2019455
The ImpulseRC driver fixer is often a magical 1-click fix for this sort of stuff. The only annoying thing is that it normally triggers the board to go into DFU (flash) mode after it fixes the driver, which you don't want if you're just trying to connect the Cleanflight configurator. You can just wait until it says it's fixed the driver, then disconnect it when it starts rebooting it into DFU mode. When you then reconnect it the driver fix should still be in place.

https://impulserc.com/pages/downloads

Failing that, Zadig is the next step.

>>2019234
1500mAh 6S is relatively large for a 5" quad, the norm for a standard racing/acro build would be ~1100mAh.

Take a look at FPV Cycle (they sell GNB which are decent), Pyrodrone/Piroflip (maybe avoid their Auline batteries though, never heard of them) & RDQ (their own brand stuff should be a solid budget option).

>>2019466
You don't connect the gimbal direct to the receiver, you connect it to the receiver. What firmware are you using? It should be trivial in something like Ardupilot (it has actual gimbal support), but maybe slightly harder in Betaflight (you'd have to pretend that they're servo outputs, I think).

>>2019669
>You don't connect the gimbal direct to the receiver, you connect it to the receiver.

You don't connect the gimbal direct to the receiver, you connect it to the _flight controller_

Sorry about that.

>>2019024
Decided to dick around in eCalc and found that the 2814 880kv would probably be the best option for 10 inch when considering the 2810, 2812, 2814, and 3115. I am curious how accurate eCalc is? Even on the 2814s its saying I may exceed the ability of a 60a RESC but Im seeing people on rotorbuilds running the 3115s on a 55a?

>>2020109
>I am curious how accurate eCalc is?

eCalc is generally a fairly good indicator of real life. Obviously no simulation is ever going to accurately predict your flight times to the second & your flying style will drastically affect it.

>its saying I may exceed the ability of a 60a RESC but Im seeing people on rotorbuilds running the 3115s on a 55a?

A 55A ESC will have a burst rating >60A & you're never going to be pegging 100% throttle for sustained durations.

>>2020143
>burst rating
Completely forgot that was a thing. The 4 in 1 im looking at has a 100a burst rating so I guess I'll be good. Excited to get this going, went ahead and ordered an XL10, I noticed you had said the DC10 look less cramped but the pictures I looking at showed they both had about the same internal space. Gonna be my first venture into long range, so hopefully I can figure everything out.

>>2020157
Just remember, the further you fly the further you have to walk & the more ground you have to search when something goes wrong & you crash.

I paid for my carbon fibre today, they're going to try to get it done & shipped out before everything shuts down for CNY.

>>2020166
Well in that event hopefully the GPS recovery in betaflight may save my ass. Realistically I was only wanting to go maybe 2 miles, which isnt a bad walk for me. But as I live in Colorado I also wanted to do some mountain surfing, which depending on the location may complicate recovery. Again, heres hoping the GPS recovery works.

>>2020168
By far the most important part of long range is assessing the terrain & planning your flight path, considering the line of sight between you & the quad at all times. It doesn't matter how powerful your VTX is or that you're running 900MHz, or even that you have an antenna tracker, if you put earth/rock between you & the quad you're gonna lose it.

It's actually interesting to watch some of the mountain surfing stuff from Jet, Gab707, etc. & trying to work out where they're standing - you soon realise that even though they're flying down gullys etc. they are always keeping unobstructed air in one direction.

And don't forget to properly test your GPS recovery in a controlled environment (big open field). You want to actually switch off the transmitter, not just toggle it on a switch - that's the only way to know for sure the quad will behave correctly in the event of a real failsafe.

>>2020169
Yea Ive built an ArduCopter rig before so Ive a bit of experience testing failsafes.
I honestly doubt Ill ever really get the balls to do some major stuff, flying up mountain ridges 4 miles away and shit like that. I mainly just want to be able to fly further than the usual what, 400m my Spektrum radio offers? Especially on a 10 inch, Im sure Ill appreciate the extra room. Ill likely never fly it somewhere that I have no hope of hiking up to get it back.

>>2020170
Sounds like you have a sensible mindset desu. Furthest I've done is only 750m, but it was nice knowing that with R9 & a decent directional antenna for video I didn't have to worry about range at all, just enjoy the flying rather than watching RSSI.

>>2019669
Thanks. I've tried these - maybe I'm doing something wrong?
ImpulseRC just searches - I close it after a few minutes. Zadig doesn't show the device. When I go into device manager, and turn on Hidden, I can see the STM driver and USB serial drivers. I've updated the STM driver.

en.stsw-stm32102
CP210x_Universal_Windows_Driver

Is this where I need to flash the firmware / bootloader ( I've never done that before ). In the past with drones I've just plugged them in and while I might have some initial issues, usually they show up via com ports ( betaflight / cleanflight / DJI software )

>>2020201
Thats pretty much 99% of the goal, just want to fly further than right now, maybe explore somewhere interesting.

>>2020201
Adding together the listed weights of all my parts, and random 4000, 5000, and 6000mah 6s batteries gives me a 15-19 minute flight time according to eCalc. Of course thats assuming flawless conditions and a top speed of 30mph.
Thats got me realizing that I dont know jack all about batteries for this size quad. Most relatively cheap large capacity 6s LiPos are only like 25C, whereas the LiPos for my 5 inchers are like 60c. What happens if the drone attempts to draw more than the battery is rated for? At that do I need a 75c battery for a cruiser?

>>2019669
>>2020213
you know, I was able to connect another drone using Mission Planner, does that suggest the drivers aren't the problem?

>>2020272
the Micro USB could have gone bad on your FC.

Anyone here gotten head while they were flying? I call it: drone bone.
Ideal for orbiting.

>>2020288
ok, hoping it wasn't that, but it's a 5 year+ old drone and I'm not the first owner. Certainly possible.

>>2020549
I like to have my girlfriend offer to give nerds out flying blowjobs while they were there goggles. We go somewhere remote, like behind some bushes or whatever but then I suck them off. They always try to flytheir drone around to watch and it is pretty funny when they see me on my knees. even funnier when they pretend it didn't happen afterwards.

I call it drone bone

>>2020272
No. The fact you can connect to one doesn't say anything about another. Screenshot device manager & the list of all devices in Zadig.

>>2020230
What C rating you ultimately need depends entirely upon how you fly the thing. I'm planning to use 10C LiIon packs with mine & I have no reason to believe it won't be absolutely fine.

And don't forget that C rating is relative to capacity (it's a pretty dumb metric IMO). A 15C 5000mAh 6S pack is capable of outputting more power than a 65C 1100mAh 6S.

Speaking of batteries, got a delivery. Hopefully the spot welder will arrive within the next week or so.

When will DJI FPV v2 come out I want to build my drone

>>2017642
Harbor Freight is your friend, don't forget to use the 20% off coupon:

https://www.harborfreight.com/rechargeable-radio-controlled-airplane-92304.html

>>2018901
This is why I use the internet.. WTF DID I JUST READ

>>2018901

>>2018901
> the image picture in picture in my goggles?
>groping is a real Problem
>fuck with me and touch my ass
>i'm afraid

>>2020753
how much you payu for the spot welder? I keep thinking about making one DIY style, but have too many projects

Just got the XL10 in and put it together. I realize now what you meant by cramped, for some reason I was only looking at the space for the stack. For such a large frame tbmhis thing has fucking nowhere to put a 30x30 VTX. Was planning on slapping some 1W monstrosity in there but at this point the only thing I can find with that output power at this size is the RDQ Mach 1. Which of course I can't find any power output tests for so it probably only putputs 600mw at the 1W setting.

>>2021220
It's just a cheap $40 one, thought I'd see if I get lucky with QC before investing in a more expensive one.

>>2021232
Yeah like I said, it's the same concept as my XL7, which I found stupidly cramped for a 7" build. Not going to have that problem with my new design. That's a 2W AKK in the fourth position btw.

>>2021595
40bucks for a spot welder? Where?
Even microwave oven /diy/ route costs more

>>2021626
I'm talking about MOSFET designs. They're only good for very thin stuff, but for LiIon cells you're only dealing with 0.1-0.15mm nickel strip.

>>2020597
image attached!

>>2021656
still where youd buy it from?

>>2021739
Hi trackball friend. If that Zadig screenshot is with hidden devices shown, none of them look like the right thing I'm afraid. In Device Manager it's usually under Universal Serial Bus devices, rather than controllers.

Just check bangood, AliExpress, etc. for spot welders.

>>2021184
>>2020990
>>2018936
This isn't a joke I just feel uncomfortable standing basically blindfolded in public completely vulnerable to molestation by random guys, especially when i hear about this actually happening quite a bit. I just want to see what's going on around me while i have the goggles on

>>2019227
That actually was one of the places i heard it, bardwell made a video about it, it was discussed quite a bit on the rotor riot group and some blogs, link related.

https://flygirlfpv.blogspot.com/2018/05/sexual-assault-in-fpv-community.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR0Abvywz5luI6X8VbAldov3RzTmbh9dBXQ0f-U8LGvodVlWtraJ5zdPq8c

>>2021987

>>2021987
>get assaulted
>fly a 500g rock with 5000rpm Spinny knives at them
Easy as.

Also, tits or gtfo

>>2021987
This is literally the first I've ever heard of this, after 5-6 years in this hobby/community, which really doesn't support this as something that supposedly happens 'quite a bit'.

You didn't answer what country you live in, but unless it's one where public groping/sexual assault is already an endemic problem I don't know why you think putting goggles on is going to change anything.

If you're really that worried, just fly from a monitor instead of goggles.

>>2022053
United States, and yes people have complained about being assaulted in this country while flying.

>>2022060
Not a single one of the thousands of US pilots I've spoken to over the years has ever mentioned this (and yes, that includes a fair number of women).

>>2022120
That's because the thing you're talking to is a troon who feels like his mental illness will be validated if some hooligan gropes him. It's obviously a non issue.

>>2022120
it's bait, you would think that newfags would know better by now.

>>2021987
The fact that all of this started with ZoeFPV who is one of the ugliest "women" I've ever seen makes me doubt the legitimacy of any of it.

>>2022232
As someone who abhors and avoids any sort of shittE-celeb, and doesn't know what zoe looks like, maybe she's a butterface and the box goggles boosted her from a 3/10 to a 7/10

>>2022238
3/10 is pushing it.

>>2022250
Aaahhhhhhhh

>>2022253
Yea, would be hard to mistake her for anything other than some kind of water buffalo.

>>2021595
Looking at it now, and vaguely measuring it with some boards I have lying around, I think I'll be able to get a VTX on top of the stack and still fit in there. Do you actually need 2w for long range? I was looking at a small assortment of 1w ones and decided that would do me fine.

>>2021782

Thanks for the assistance -

1/ STM Device in DFU Mode is under USB controllers and STM virtual COM ports. These aren't the drivers I installed?

2/ Zadig doesn't appear to have a "show hidden" option

3/ Under USB devices all I have is a ton of apple stuff. What specifically am I missing so I can find and install it?

thanks again, extremely frustrating here.

>Trackball friend
Nah I just use that interface to control my-pounder yoshi doll. CHORD to initiate yoshi egg convulsions

'Sup /rcg/.

I have an old (3years) turnigy 8000mah 30C battery.
My battery meter reads an IR of 0/0/2 mOhm on the cells.

But it's inflated. It's very squishy, as in there's almost no resistance to squishing it, despite being ballooned a bit.

Will It burn my house down or is it good for the time being. I only use it for low draw/short pulse applications that are well within it's capacity rating.

IT had hardly any use at storage charge prior to now.

Month 2 of waiting for my 7" banggood multirotor

>>2022380
thanks. some good stuff in here I need to look into

>>2021987
>perpetrator was an event judge

Sounds about right.

> standing basically blindfolded in public completely vulnerable

You could set up secondary cameras that you could flip to. However, I'm not sure how practical a 360 degree self surveillance set up is going to work if you are also flying. I understand how you would feel particularly vulnerable, and that as a women you live in a different world in terms of physical safety. The only thing I can think of offhand is to bring a folding chair or something, and set it behind you. This will decrease your sense of vulnerability, provide physical feedback if someone tries to get close behind you, and interfere with being groped from behind.

>>2022232
less attractive women are the most harassed, because no one gives a fuck about them, and they are low on the social structure. Most people are too afraid to sexually harass attractive or women with high social value. The risks are much higher. Just like it is easier to bully people at a lower social strata. It is also more social acceptable in that there isn't as much incentive for other people to stand up for the person. You are more likely to have a group of men bully and harass a women who is less attractive. The whole "I'd never rape her, she isn't my type" attitude is pretty disgusting.

>>2022250
Trans people are subject to a high level of bullying

>>2022428
Zoe pls go.

>>2022461
I don't even know who Zoe is outside of this thread. What I wrote shouldn't be some big surprise to you.

>>2022428
>Trans people are subject to a high level of bullying
Good

>>2022428
>Trans people are subject to a high level of bullying
Yes?

>>2022428
>Trans people are subject to a high level of bullying

>>2022304
>2/ Zadig doesn't appear to have a "show hidden" option

Sorry, it's Options > List All Devices. Normally flight controllers won't show up until you enable that option.

>>2022354
If in doubt, throw it out. It's not worth the risk for a <$50 battery.

>>2022380
>>2022421
That list is obviously pretty old & some of the stuff is no longer useful/recommended, especially for multirotors.

>bullet connectors

Just solder.

>CA glue

Literally never used CA when building a multirotor. Can be useful for fixed wing though.

>M6 nylocs for motors

Only _big_ motors use M6, the vast majority of stuff you'll come across is M5. Even the 3115 motors we've been talking about recently are M5.

>philips & flathead screwdriver

Everything is hex.

>FrSky voltage sensor

Completely useless for multirotors, only useful if you're building 'dumb' fixed wing with no flight controller.

>FTDI adapter

Literally never needed one in this hobby,

>Afro/Turnigy programming board

If you're still using Afro ESCs in 2021 you need to seriously rethink your life.

>>2022428
Just fly with a friend. Legally you should always have a spotter anyway.

>>2022428
>Trans people are subject to a high level of bullying

So being groped is bullying?

>>2022428
>The whole "I'd never rape her, she isn't my type" attitude is pretty disgusting.
You'll never be a woman.

>>2022670
I think so. Or they seem close enough in a situation like this not to make a difference.

>>2022707
Eh it’s ok. You’ll never be a man.

>>2022663
Right I’m listing all devices as shown in the earlier screenshot. What should I be seeing that I’m not?

>>2022738
>What should I be seeing that I’m not?
A strong paternal figure, but I guess it's too late for that now.

>>2022738
Depends on what sort of flight controller it is, I can't remember whether you told us or not. Is this a DIY build or some sort of off-the-shelf thing? Betaflight? Ardupilot? Something else entirely?

>>2022707
You'll never be a true meme

>>2022806
ok, so that device would be showing up. cleanflight FC, don't remember name offhand. Seems like I should order a new FC. I've never had problems until recently, and the intermittent connection make me think its a hardware issue rather than drivers.

>>2022428
Are gay people bullied there as well? I'm gay but i've never flown with other people before and i guess i never thought about it like that

>>2023267
Most of my RC friends are gay we have no issues. We even target-drop dildos from our planes sometimes for fun.

If you're talking about dealing with an AMA club then that depends on the kind of boomers that run it, and the political climate of the area.

Just got my first batch of parts in today.

>>2023273
I'm not looking to fly at a boomer field, i hear they call us all faggots regardless because we like to do more than fly in circles over an empty field

>>2023276
Pretty much everyone outside the AMA are really cool. That's why my friends and I fly at parks/private land (with permission, duh)/ other areas.

For some reason the AMA boomers act like airforce rejects that are still salty with a chip on their shoulder after 40 years and that they need to judge everything about you before you use their precious field.

These fuckers have the nerve to charge an additional $100/year on top of the AMA club fee and then tell you "I don't know your skill, so you can't fly here until you have 40+ hrs with bob on the buddy box" or "your model isn't/doesn't have/doesn't look like X, it's a deathtrap and you can't fly".
And if they ever find out you fly at a park to get around it, they'll petition the city to either make it an AMA field or ban all model aircraft "for safety".

And don't even start with FPV/autopilot.


But if you stay away from these fucks you'll (usually) actually find some really cool people who could care less about your lifestyle, some will even embrace it. Look for some FPV quad groups.

If you're in a strictly rural area, I'm afraid this may not apply.

>>2023273
You guys should air drop dildos on AMA fields

>>2023319
I...
I never thought of this.
You have opened my eyes.

I might provide pics/webM someday as a thank-you.

>>2023351
>>2023319
>>2023281
IN AD 2021
WAR WAS BEGINNING

>>2023358
That...
That's the same dildo I tie to my BF-109 lmafo.

>>2023358
are we reincarnating dongcoptor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbnySBqioB0

>>2023377
obligatory. was about to post this.

>>2023281
Didn't realize this was the situation. Reminds me a bit of the skii/snowboard problems back in the 90s. Yes. I'm old. I'm pretty sure I'm "Boomer" old, even though I'm GenX.

>>2022428
This took place in Poland, so I'm gonna say "yes". They are still beating gay people to death in Russia, and Poland isn't too far ahead of them culturally. In the US? Probably no one gives a shit.

>>2023399
Based Ruskies.

>>2023281
>>2023396
It's unfortunately quite similar here in the UK as well. The vast majority of the 'model flying' community have a knee jerk hostility to the 'drone' community & seem to think that just because they've been playing with remote control flying toys for decades that nobody else can do so unless it's on their terms. Luckily they're predominantly retirees who only fly at their club fields, so for the most part you can just act like they don't exist.

The aspect I hate the most though is actually the shops. Because model flying has been around for nearly 100 years there are a bunch of long established shops that cater to the scene. However model flying hasn't really seen any technological advances in decades.... whilst the drone/FPV scene sees huge advances every year. Some of these stores will buy in drone stuff & then expect to treat it just like their model plane stuff, so they leave it on the shelf for years at full price. I've read so many stories of newbies to multirotors who walked into their local hobby store for some friendly advice & got completely conned when the owner sold them laughably obsolete trash that doesn't even work anymore. You'll find hobby stores today in 2021 that will still try to sell you a Naze32 for £30 & 12A SimonK ESCs for £25 each, so somebody's first exposure to the hobby is trying to find a 7 year old version of the Cleanflight configurator & scrolling through decades old RCGroups threads trying to work out why their stuff doesn't work.

>>2023399
Based Poland

>>2023533
Why do you think it's mostly retirees?

Planes just not as exciting? Not as exciting as videogames?

>>2024090
They're the only people with enough money to waste on club fees and massive balsa nitro planes, just to fly them in lines back and forth.

Others who actually want to do something fun don't join the clubs because they will blow a fucking gasket if you do so much as go 2ft outside of their 30ft wide strip of grass.

>>2024090
They likely started when they were younger and just kept with it. Unfortunately as many have pointed out, they make every attempt to exclude anything new since the hobby went through decades of stagnation followed by extreme changes. I'm not interested in paying AMA and club fees to fly at a grass strip at the town dump. Not exaggerating, this is the nearest flying club. Instead I fly with a group of people at a park who don't care what you fly.

>>2023533
At least the nearby RC shop was admitting that there was no way they could compete with the pricing online... But considering RDQ has good pricing on stuff from what I've seen so far, maybe it shows that kikes run these small businesses too (I remember working for a small computer store that charged +50% MSRP on parts and the owner of the store / my boss then was Jewish.)

>>2024241
Retail stores these days are just the gas station of the shopping world. You pay markups because its a short drive away, as opposed to waiting 3-5 days for a RDQ order.

>>2024090
I think it's simply that there was a golden age of model flight decades ago when these people were young. They picked it up as children, were taught to fly by their fathers, etc. After that there was almost zero advancement for decades, so no new blood took an interest.

It's only in the last decade or so, with the advent of powerful 32-bit microcontrollers, MEMS gyros/accelerometers etc., that multirotors & more advanced fixed wing (eg semi-autonomous stuff with GPS control etc.) has become a reality. This is attracting a whole new cohort to RC, but the old-timers aren't just opposed to embracing any of this new technology themselves, they're also opposed to anybody else using it to enjoy the hobby in a different way to them.

It's actually really sad, because I've heard so many stories of people my age & younger who have been put off the hobby by this bullshit gatekeeping.

>>2023533
>>2024109
>>2024204
>>2024571
>be me
>39 going on 40
>do kwads and fixed wing. Mostly small fixed wing
>all FPV
>a new field opened up in my town
>bumfuck nowhere
>decide I'll go fly
>as I'm walking up some old fuck in his 60's runs out
>"THIS IS AN AMA FIELD, I NEED TO SEE YOUR CLUB CARD!!!!!1!!1"
>red AMA hat, vest with patches
>only 3D planes
>sho him my AMA papers
>"lol sorry we've hads lots of problems with non-AMA people being out here. I drive in from bumfuckistan 2 hrs away just to fly here and I'm not letting them ruin this."
>k.jpg
>get to flight line
>start unpacking quadcopter, FPV wing and gear
>funnily enough it's the radiomaster that sets him off
>"No Futaba? lol ok have fun crashing"
>"I can't tell you not to fly with that, but if you crash because of radio failure you'll have to leave. I'm the flight safety officer of this club"
>uh huh
>takeoff, FPV, fly outside of the line just barely
>"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!?! LAND NOW AND LEAVE, I WAS WILLING TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE AFTER YOU BROKE SO MANY RULES BUT YOU NEED TO GET OUT!!!!"
>"actually, I don't have to. I'm good"
>"I'M GOING TO CALL THE FUCKING COPS!"

>sheriff comes
>"howdy richard, what's going on?"
>"Idk officer, he's the one that called."
>"reeeeeee he needs to GTFO I'm the safety officer and ect."
>"Ok, sir, we'll have to ask the property owner."
>"hey Rich, do you think you need to leave?"
>"Nah, I'm good"

>It's me
>I'm the property owner
>I turned 10 of my 80 acres into an AMA field so I can attempt to register it as a FRIA later


>"do you want him gone?"
>"he's a dick, but I don't think he's dangerous."
>spend the rest of the day with the other new members laughing at this dude for trying to impersonate an AMA "officer"
>never saw him again

They're all just busybodies with nothing better to do. It's like church. They're attracted to it because they will be granted a small amount of power that will immediately go to their head. Sadly the AMA fosters this.

>>2016957
please tell me if i'm in the wrong thread, but I have a mavic air and I'm having trouble finding a new battery---are they all going to pretty much be the same price anywhere I go? I found them on Amazon for $80 (or 140 for 2). can they be had anywhere cheaper than that?

https://www.amazon.com/DJI-Mavic-Intelligent-Flight-Battery/dp/B07952XR64/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=mavic+air+battery&qid=1612717619&sr=8-2

>>2024765
That's pretty much what you're gonna pay.
That's what happens when you buy proprietary.

>>2024759
>>It's me
>>I'm the property owner

This was pretty good.

BMFA is our equivalent of the AMA here in the UK, I pay membership because it's a cheap way to get liability insurance. They send a magazine once a quarter which is like stepping back in time, I don't think most of their members even know what a flight controller is.

>>2024765
I don't know if there's such a thing as trustworthy third party batteries (or any third party batteries at all?) for the Mavic Air. Anywhere selling the legit ones will be selling them at pretty much exactly the same price. Buy from somewhere reputable like Amazon (fulfilled by Amazon themselves) or direct from the DJI store online.

>>2024759
This is a beautiful story.

More AMA boomer stories please.

>>2024759
doing God's work, anon.

>>2024782
>>2025045
>>2025074
>>2025134
Thanks Y'all.

>>2025074
unfortunately this was only a few months ago. Most of the guys who come out are pretty cool since it's not technically their field.

The "club" is just me and 5 of my friends.

I do have a story from another friend tho, I personally haven't had many interactions with other AMA boomers:
>be him
>know a buddy who works at an airfield with an RC field on it
>buddy can LOS, but not well
>gets permission from property owner to fly, even away from the AMA field
>shows up, GPS RTL fixed wing plane. Bixler style.
>AMA guys give him boatload of shit b/c not an AMA member, despite having permission from the owner.
>"we're leasing this land so that doesn't matter"
>gets ready to fly
>"you're gonna have to demonstrate you can fly that with no FPV or RTL or you have to leave"
>old fuck also wants him to physically remove the GPS unit that is superglued in.
>no.jpg
>says "i'll just fly my racing quad instead"
>gets many comments like "wow so boring, why would you ever want to fly that when you can do 3D aerobatic planes?"
>"Quads are so easy to fly b/c they autopilot" >"if I saw that around my house I'd shoot it"

>Guy leaves after batteries used up, but flies around the field with the plane just to piss them off because it's legal per FAA.
>Reeee don't comeback if you're gonna be a jackass etc. ensues.


>Weeks later
>guy's buddy who works at the field
>"hey man, all of those old dudes have DJI quads now"
>lol
>"btw, they asked when you were coming back, they said they hope they didn't scare you off, they need more members"

These were allegedly the "cool dudes" and the rest of the club are even bigger assholes.

Was somewhere in oklahoma or arkansas IIRC

I just looked up my local rc field's rules wtf is a crystal board also how do i taxi a multirotor or a wing

>>2025187
>crystal board
What. Post the whole sentence/paragraph/just link it.

>>2025169
>I'd shoot it
Wow I hate those niggers. Shooting is always threatening regulation. RC is always threatening regulation. Why don't people understand the more allies they have, the better they'll fair?

>>2025203
Mount a gun on every drone then it will be protected by the second amendment and literally any law or regulation will now be an infringement and unconstitutional

>>2025223
TFW your parkflier is no longer California legal.

>>2023351
Followup:
We have not yet dropped a dildo onto them, but we did do pic related around said field. Build from flight data.

Image blurred for what should be obvious reasons. Mostly because the field we flew around is the only on in the area, and I think their grandchildren got their internet working again.

>>2024765
Welcome to the Flying Apple™ ecosystem.

>>2025169
>if I saw that around my house I'd shoot it
based
kinda makes me feel I would want to do all my flying well above 50 feet if I'm anywhere near a neighborhood. Then again, it could be fun taking one of those cheap syma drones around and have a buddy try to shoot it with an airsoft gun.

>>2025187
>>2025197
It's a board from the 34MHz era, where people would reserve frequencies by putting them on the board, and then they could put their frequency crystal on the transmitter and fly. If they didn't do that they could risk having multiple people using the same frequency and hilarity would ensue.

>>2024765
yes. it isn't worth trying to save money on these either. You want a battery from a reputable source.

Been working on this on and off for a few months. We were going camping, and I picked up a cheap gravedigger truck and slapped camera and such on it. It was fun for the kids to use the goggles and drive it around, but it was a piece of shit rc. Fell into the whole traxxas/rc truck rabbit hole, and fell out here. Its a stampede frame with some custom posts, the shell from the original $20 truck, and I think it looks pretty good. Son is happy because it looks like the one I originally gave him, but now it doesn't get stuck constantly. I kind of freaked out when I saw how much the traxxas "Grave digger" costs, if you can even get it. So I feel like I came out on top hacking this together.

Still have to hook up the lights, and I have a smaller controller, but having issues getting that set up. So still stuff to work on.

>>2025476
Nice, how is the jiggle with the fpv camera? Every time i've tried mounting my camera on the body it vibrates so much it distracts from the experience

>>2025483
Not that anon, but the problem I found is your view is just too low down to see far enough ahead/over bumps when going at speed. Maybe for slow stuff it's better, but I like going fast on sand after the tides gone out & smoothed it over.

>>2025486
How is the range on a flat beach like that? I've thought about running a car on crossfire with a pwm adapter. I'd be using a tango 2 rather than a regular car transmitter tho

>>2024765
It's safer dealing with commodities.

>>2025504
I run mine on R9 & the range is far more than I'll ever want for LoS. Remember your range on the ground will be a lot less than in the air, but I suspect you'll lose sight of it long before you hit failsafe when using any sort of 900MHz system.

All the tiny R9 receivers have 4 PWM outputs specifically so you can use them in dumb things like cars & fixed wings without FCs or PWM adapters, which is super handy.

>>2025509
Why do you keep posting this? Is it supposed to be funny?

>>2025522
>PANICS

>>2025483
We aren't doing anything demanding. I've got the throttle locked at 30% for the kids and they are mostly just exploring around rather than racing or anything.

>>2025522
Because he doesn't actually know what it means, but thinks he does, and that it sounds cool

Anyone willing to id this?

It only says "RC DRONE".
No part number, no model, nothing.
Since it's in working condition, I'm unwilling to crack open it.

It sports two cameras (a belly one and a front facing one) and starts a wifi access point named "M8_4k_something", opening ftp and http/8080 ports but the usual things (anonymous, admin/admin, etc /index.htm, etc) don't work.

>>2025789
Get the FCC ID from the wifi access point, stick it into Google.

>>2025862
Dead end. It says "wifi car camera".

>>2025789
Googled M8 4K and got drone results...
People need to start trying harder.

>>2025936
This but with DDG instead of the botnet.

>>2025936
>>2025946
that's a different drone

>>2025953
Probably just a newer version.

Anyone know why I wouldnt be able to use Angle/Horizon mode?
I got a Mobula7 in the mail today and after setup it wont go into either self level modes. Ive got arm, self level, turtle, and acro trainer set up, but when flipping the switch into self level it doesnt light up in betaflight and stays in acro trainer or acro.

>>2025958
Is the accelerometer actually enabled & calibrated?

>>2025960
Yes.
Usually if the accelerometer isnt on you cant even set up the self level modes.

>>2025962
Sounds like you set the switch up wrong. Set that switch to something else in the modes tab to see whether it can toggle anything else.

-RX_Failsafe MSP
on betaflight.
Radio still recieving voltage updates, can still see video in goggles, Gyro still works-
It's over. Gonna have to buy a new part for the first time since 2018. What receiver should I get for a 4S?

>>2026261
...might want to tell us what radio you have? And your batteries have nothing to do with what receiver you choose.

>>2026268
Taranis Qx7

>>2026269
R-XSR

>>2018985
also latency.

splits are good for micro quads that need them.

Hope I can find some fresh smooth snow tomorrow morning. I give it a 40% chance of working. The skids are way too small but I was trying to print them quickly to test it out today before the light failed.

>>2026609
Something tells me the steering will barely work once

Also, that duct tape will melt in a minute, notwithstanding the low ambient temperature

>>2025789
If you are trying to find the app for viewing the camera you have a hard uphill climb in front of you. Even if you find the exact model, it could have been released by different Chinese sellers each which have a cloned version of the same app. I went through this with one of those cloned Emotion drones. Even the support contact I had could only tell me to scan the QR code that came with it when I bought it.

>>2026619
....what duct tape?

>>2026646
the yellow one on the hot battery pack

>>2026702
You can't seriously believe that lipos run hot enough to melt PVC tape. Please tell me this is some sort of troll.

>>2026702
a.) that's electrical tape anon, you need to learn your tapes. The UL listed ones are flame retardant.
b.) lipos don't run that hot, you have obviously never used one.

>>2026713
>>2026724
Looks pretty hot to me i dunno

>>2026777
After its on fire?

>>2026777
Well yeah, most batteries will get hot/explode if you whack them with a stick with a nail in the end.

We blow them up for fun sometimes.

Should I be concerned if one of my brand new never flown motors is producing a sort of clicking sound when I spin it by hand?

>>2026943
That has happened to me before and it turned out to be the propeller was not completely tightened, and making a weird sound / reverberation. Not sure if this applies to your situation.

>>2026943
Depends on the clicking.
it it's in a quad and spins fine, it could just be really strong magnetic braking from the poles.

>>2026993
Dont even have a prop on it yet.
>>2026994
Spins fine, its just noisy. I ran some of that sticky blue tack shit through the bell and it seemed to improve, so there might have just been something in there.

>>2026609
You need more weight on the front.

>>2027181
Turns out it just needs a way wider stance (tips over sideways easily). Turning surprisingly worked really well. Trying to think of where there might be a larger patch of smooth snow.

>>2027186
Lower the mass center, and post a video already!

Made it wider, gonna head out again. Would ideally make it longer as well, but that would require a lot more work. Play now, webm later.

Are DJI fpv goggles 2 launching with a new air unit?

the Zeez F7 controller board I wanted to order cannot be shipped anymore and now I'm a bit worried about what to do

already got
>crossfire nano se receiver
>rush ultimate plus video transmitter
>6c battery

it's my first time sourcing all the parts.
anything to keep in mind when looking for a controller board?
I want one of those FC ESC stacks. Any recommendations?

>>2027308
Just get a Mamba stack. They're so good & so cheap I don't even bother thinking about stack choice anymore - I just use the appropriate Mamba stack for the size/budget.

>>2027311
so like the one in this kit >>2023275
alright, let's do this

I think it actually would've worked better if I flipped the prop over & drove it backwards. Then again, it would've worked better if I just had access to a piece of foamboard & didn't bother with wood/3D printing at all. Anyway, still had fun.

>>2027430
I'm waiting for this guy to release this snow tank. Seem like a near project and good snow vehicle.
youtube.com/watch?v=ovsEiLXqp6o

>package with all my electronics has been ~70 miles from my house for 3 days
USPS makes me mad.

>>2027473
>USPS makes me mad.
Amen
This package is shipping to Utah. Utah is between Illinois and Las Vegas and has somehow traveled past me twice. It could be some weird logging/tracking thing but based on other experiences with USPS, it wouldn't surprise me if this retarded route actually happened.

>>2027479
Oh it most certainly has got right by you. I'm in southern Colorado along I-25. For some reason literally all the mail in Colorado has to go through Commerce City in Denver. Denver being in the northern part of the state, literally all my mail drives 2 miles from my house along I-25 just to come back down.

>>2022232
phaha your telling me op is a women?

>>2027430
Cool!

>>2027492
Wat. Who said anything about the op?

Ok, so Im building this 10 inch, and have only just now started looking at batteries. Seems like Hobbyking is still the best for that somehow. But Ive only just noticed most of the high capacity 6s batteries they sell use an XT90 and not an XT60. Would it be best to use an XT90 on the quad or should I just buy a XT-60 to XT90 dongle?

>>2027540
Why would you use an XT60 to XT90 adapter instead of just putting an XT90 on the quad? Just use whatever the batteries come with.

>>2027540
If it pulls enough current that they ship with XT90's, you need an XT90

>>2027551
My 4 in 1 shipped with an XT60, was just trying to see if I can get away with using it.
>>2027556
Regular 6s batteries for 5 inch quads can exceed the 60a rating of an XT60, at least by my understanding of it.

>>2027581
They can, but not for long, and not in the same way the larger batteries can.

>>2027584
Ahh, so I would definitely be needing an XT90 for something like a 6s 6000mah even if it was only at 20c or something? I kinda figured I would need it for the Turnigy Graphene batteries that are at like 75c on a 5000mah.
Should I be concnered about the gauge of wire as well? 10 gauge wire is only rated for 30 amps or so, that being said 2 gauge wire is only rated for like 85.

>>2027585
20c at 6Ah is like 120A.
It's also just easier if all of your batteries come with it anyways. More connectors (i.e. adapters) create more resistance.

Use wire as big as comfortable, but the same kind of wire as the connector lead of the lipo with the largest diameter wire should be more than enough.

>>2027594
Well all the presoldered pigtails I can find for an XT90 use 10 gauge so I guess thatll do. Hobbyking doesnt actually specify on the battery pages.

>>2027556
>If it pulls enough current that they ship with XT90's, you need an XT90

Except in many cases the connector a battery actually comes with is fairly arbitrarily chosen & you find many high capacity packs shipping with XT90 even though they often have substantially lower current ratings than much smaller packs that come with XT60. The mentality seems to be 'big batteries need big connectors', regardless of what current they actually need to pass.

For example, this 3300mAH 6S 25C (82.5A) pack has a XT90

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-nano-tech-3300mah-6s-25c-lipo-pack-w-xt90.html

While this 2200mAh 6S 50C (110A) pack has a XT60

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/rhino-2200mah-6s-50c-lipo-battery-pack-w-xt60.html

That smaller pack with the XT60 is rated for 110A vs the 82.5A of the larger pack with the XT90. And this is just a random example of the first two packs I found, it's not even the most egregious example.

>>2027585
>so I would definitely be needing an XT90 for something like a 6s 6000mah even if it was only at 20c or something

No, absolutely not. For what you're doing an XT60 will be more than enough. You're going to be pulling less current than most high end race quads on a track. Regardless, as I already said, just use whatever comes on the battery - even if that happens to be an XT90 & is overkill, it'd be dumb to cut the connector off a brand new battery & even dumber to build the quad with the wrong connector & then use an adapter.

>10 gauge wire is only rated for 30 amps or so

You need to stop focussing on absolute maximum ratings, 100% throttle, etc. What actually matters is averages. You can pull a shitton more than 60A through an XT60 connector, you can pull a shitton more than 30 amps through 10AWG wire, etc. as long as you're not doing it for prolonged periods (you won't be).

You definitely don't need 10AWG wire btw, 14AWG is plenty for your application & much easier to work with.

>>2027623
Been waiting for you to reply to order anything haha.
I kinda figured considering I can find 1300mah 6s packs that can supposedly do 150c.
My real question at this point is should I stick to buying batteries with XT60s or should I get some of the XT90 packs and some kind of adapter? I suppose I could also solder an XT60 to replace the XT90, but Ive never attempted anything like that on a battery so I admit Im apprehensive.

>>2027612
Don't use presoldered pigtails. I've seen so many (including from HobbyKing) that are soldered so badly I wouldn't use them on anything, let alone something that's supposed to stay airborne.

>>2027627
>should I get some of the XT90 packs and some kind of adapter? I suppose I could also solder an XT60 to replace the XT90

Seriously, why would do either of those things?

Pick out whatever battery you want. Build your quad with the matching connector. It's really that simple.

>>2027623
Issue is most batteries Im considering are XT90s, but the Li-Ion I want to use at some point are XT60. Is it a bad idea to solder 2 pigtails to the power input on the ESC, 1 with XT60 and 1 with XT90? Just use whichever I happen to be running the correlating pack, and I can just cap the other and shove it inside the frame.

>>2027186
>>2027430
noice
can't believe I'm not yet started building one

Cheap spot welder arrived & seems to work, btw. Had a loose blob of solder rattling around inside which I removed & they damaged the wrap of one of the lipo cells inside, but it doesn't smell like it punctured into the actual cell.

>>2027635
>Issue is most batteries Im considering are XT90s, but the Li-Ion I want to use at some point are XT60.

If the batteries you're considering to use now are XT90, just put an XT90 on the quad. Use an adapter if/when you need to, not before. Don't make more work for yourself until you need to.

>Is it a bad idea to solder 2 pigtails to the power input on the ESC

Yes, because when you connect a battery to one of them you'll have live male pins on the other. Doesn't matter if you intend to cap it off, sod's law says you'll forget.

>>2027637
Using foamboard or a plastic kid's sled would work 10000% better & easier, only reason I tried my approach is I don't have/can't buy any foamboard or a plastic sled right now.

>>2027641
Amazon has a bunch of literally who branded higher cap 6s with an XT60, guess Ill give those a shot just to avoid any complications. I intend to use the Li-Ion packs at some point anyways.
Forgive the retarded questions. Good chunk of this is a learning experience.

>>2027430
You're the hero this general doesn't deserve.

Not gonna lie, save for a couple small issues, one being I never seem to do measure twice cut once correct. This is so far one of my simpler builds.

>>2027827
Forgot the pic.

>>2027835
looks pretty nice, though I'm just getting started myself.

>>2027835
sleek

>>2026777
just use mica sheet and some kaptom tape to wrap it after you glue the mica to something as extra protection . kaptom take can handle something like 450 degrees F easy and mica can do thousand plus. so you will know if you compromised the kaptom but not the mica at some point

mica sheets are in toasters. its the silvery stuff that the resistive element is wrapped around that never burns really. its naturally occurring mineral that breaks off in thin sheets. the process it with other stuff to make the silvery stuff but 500 F wont fuck it up

>>2028080
Literally wtf are you talking about? Are you seriously suggesting armour plating lipo batteries with sheets of mica... because they catch fire if you hammer a fucking nail through them? How about, y'know, just don't hammer a fucking nail through them?

>>2028090
Kek.

>>2027479

Hey anon, we're neighbors Im northwest of Elk Grove

is there a prop guide?
or should I just grab a couple different ones and test them out

I see so many people shilling the dji system. Is it worth the upgrade or do I stay on the boomer analog.

>>2028106
If you're talking about different props in the same size/similar pitch then it's all down to preference. Buy one set each of half a dozen different ones & see which you prefer yourself.

>>2028108
It's a no-brainer if you're coming new to the hobby, but if you already have a dozen models all on analogue it's a hard sell. Even if you decide to just upgrade one or two, you know that you'll end up never flying the rest until you upgrade them all as well.

Personally I'd rather spend the money on a new experience (different type of model, petrol to drive to new locations, etc.) rather than just upgrading stuff I already have which won't actually do anything different.

>>2028103
I think you're mistaken... I'm a Utahrd but my package shipped from and keeps ending back in Illinois. Bummer. I was excited to have a potential flying buddy and couldn't find Elk Grove on the Utah map. Haha.

I'm building a E325 mini titan heli but I don't have neither a gyro or the four servos.
Spoon feed me where can I get the parts or at least substitute parts.

>>2028153
Ive heard that alot but like I feel like there is no way I just stop flying my little tiny whoop around the house just because it isn't HD. But I can see how if you have multiple bigger drones that could make sense. Another thing for me that is tempting me is that I'm running attitude v4's right now and I'm tempted to upgrade just to get wider fov and better screens and all that jazz and with those goggle mods I heard it runs analog decently now

Are there any linux SBCs that fit onto a 30x30 stack?
Closest I found is pic related that I could probably make an adapter for.

>>2028106
Long as you dont buy bullnose youve got the right idea.

>>2027430
this worked much better than I thought it would. nice job. I didn't think it would turn at all, and would just dig in and crash when you tried - or the rudder would turn but rc would just go straight anyway

Hey guys,

I'm new to drones/RC and have a few questions I was hoping you could help me with.

1. Do you know of any American made transmitters? I like the idea of the Taranis or Radiomaster, but i don't want to support Chinese companies.

2. Should I buy the Fatsharks HDO2s or wait until they release the newest model? It is really expensive and don't want to spend $500 on something that is outdated.

3. Will digital video transmission match the range of analog systems, e.g. 2.4 ghz. I really want to go long range, but boy do those digital HD systems look good. I am heavily eyeing the TBS 2.4 ghz groundstation

>>2028743
Maybe I shouldn't answer given I don't fully know, but I think the range on a 2.4 ghz video system will be much better than the digital range.
However, I've heard that the range of digital is pretty close / sometimes better than 5 ghz. A bit more latency, but for many people it isn't an issue (or even noticeable, given their flying style).

>>2028743
>but i don't want to support Chinese companies
In this hobby, anything from an American brand is gonna be Chinese but with a US QC stamped on top for an extra $100

>>2028761
True. But piece parts don't count/is unavoidable. I was referring to companies not straight-up HQ'ed in China.

>>2028625
What are you trying to achieve?

OC, my first simple knife edge gap. Nothing spectacular, but I'm happy with it. I have no money to replace / fix my quad if I wreck it so I must be very careful. In addition, I only have 1 functional battery at the moment so my practice is very limited.
Going to try to post more OC here.

>>2028364
For oldschool stuff like helis & cars you'll often find hobby stores have categories for spare parts specific to your particular model. For something like servos these are probably generic parts & you might be able to save money by just finding some with the same spec sold as regular servos, rather than sold specifically as a spare part for your particular heli.

>>2028743
Pretty much this entire hobby is Chinese. Not just the manufacturing but the majority of the R&D as well. You realise Fatshark are based in Shenzhen right?

>>2028896
Have you considered downloading a simulator to get more practice? They are pretty accurate and you can have a go really ripping it with no fear of breaking things.

>>2028914
That's how I learned, but my current computer can't run a sim too well.

>>2028937
You can turn all the graphics down to potato level, the physics is what's important for learning.

>>2028886
Mostly just playing around with OpenCV/YOLO, object tracking etc.
I can always just ziptie a Raspberry Pi to it, but I was hoping for something in a more elegant form factor.

>>2028973
You wont be able to run openCV objeect detection or yolo on a pi. The architecture is weak and the CPU lacks instructions to make it feasible.
Even if you where to recompile the libraries, chances are it would be way too slow to execute in an acceptable period of time.
My suggestion is to bounce a video feed to a proper computer and have it do the computation and send the data back

>>2028937
What type of computer are you running? Velocidrone should work

>>2028980
>>2028973

>You wont be able to run openCV objeect detection or yolo on a pi.
You actually can compile, it's just a difficult setup. You're right that's super slow running though, however there are ways around it.

Attached is one of mine I'm building (this is Harry and yes the wiring is a mess). It has a Google Dev Coral Board on top which will be linked to a USB camera (camera disconnected in photo). When it detects something, it sends a UART signal to the to the arduino motor servos to turn a certain direction. Google also have a Coral Accelerator which you USB plug into a Pi and then run OpenCV.

Putting OpenCV on the Google Dev Board was difficult because it only has 1GB RAM and you need a swap file config.

>>2029006
>Google also have a Coral Accelerator which you USB plug into a Pi and then run OpenCV.
Sounds good. And it's the same size as a pi zero.
I'm not sure if rpi zero has enough RAM to do anything useful, but I think there's clones with the same form factor and more memory.

>>2028937
>>2028946
I am using a Surface 3 (not pro 3), atm. Moving between states / uni. so it's a bit of a clusterfuck. I plan to practice more in a sim once I get the chance. Until then, I fly twice a day and really focus on what I need to practice. Also, my TX (flysky) doesn't play nice with simulators, so I use a old PS3 controller, but that is not working at the moment.
Yes I realize how ridiculous my setup is. I'm just happy to be able to fly.

Oops, above post meant to reply to you, >>2028999 not myself.

>>2018901
Try as you might, getting raped is part and parcel of FPV flying. You're just going to have to get used to it.

>>2029018
I'm just getting into building my first drone and am waiting for the rest of the parts to come in by Tuesday including a Jumper T-Lite JP4-in-1 TX. It sounded like that TX should work fine for a sim, so I got that one.

>>2029547
>>2029547
I used to use RDS (Real Drone Simulator). It's not the most full featured, by it's free. It's made by a small group, might even be just one person. I highly suggest trying it if you haven't decided which paid sim to get. RDS is really fun, and the only thing I know. That and a damn PS3 controller. Definitely not an ideal way to learn, glad you're doing it right. I'm excited for you, anon. Keep us updated.

Update on the cheap spot welder (>>2027641). After playing with it some, it does handle 0.1mm pure nickel strips absolutely fine, just like it claims.

However I've discovered that 0.1mm is far too thin for high discharge cells like the 35A ones I bought... Probably going to end up buying a far more expensive kWeld then flip it after I've assembled all my cells with it. Completely wipes out the money I would've saved by building my own packs, but at least I'll have learned a new skill.

>>2018901
>I hear people coming up behind you when you are flying and groping you is a real problem in the fpv community and i'm afraid it will happen to me.

>>2029673
I'll look into that. I got the TBS Source two frame so that gave me a whole 5% discount on velocidrone, so I'll definitely look into RDS first.
Also, here's what I've put together so far. I'm not very happy with the solder I got (Benzomatic lead-free electrical solder) and will probably go to the nearby Ace to pick up some 60/40 solder.

>>2030439
Lead free is objectively inferior in every way, the only reason to use it is if you're working on a commercial scale & are legally required to do so. As a hobbyist you should be using 63/37 from a reputable brand (Kester, etc.). Be warned that cheap Chinabrand solder that claims to be 60/40 or 63/37 is sometimes actually lead free.

>>2030439
Use an eutectic leaded solder, eg. 63/37 like Anon above said. They're much easier to work with and you won't get cold joints.
As far as lead-free solders go, I've had success using Sn99Cu1, but it needs considerably higher temperature to start flowing properly, which may not be good for some of the components.

Building an RC plane out of Dollar Tree foamboard. How the fuck do I select a motor for the propeller? Is there a power-per-pound estimate or something I can use? I just don't want to buy one that's too weak.

>>2018901
god gave you elbows for a reason anon

>>2030567

the only product from china with less lead than claimed is lead solder

I'm scratch building an rc boat out of ply/bass, and balsa wood. I'm nearly done paneling the hull with balsa and I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to finish it.

I heard fiberglass is the go to, but i've also hear not getting the ratios right could mess it up.

I've seen people use bondo for modeling and what not. Do you think Bondo with some hardener could be use to coat the hull of an rc boat? and if so why is it not a popular way to do so?

>>2030821
Look at motor spec sheets.
You need to know what type of flying you're doing to determine what thrust:weight ratio you want. You can fly a lot of stuff at a 3:4 ratio (1kg plane needs .75g thrust). You don't get vertical flight until 1:1 ratio, but in practice you'll want 1.5:1 for any short verticals and at 2:1 for dank stuff.
The spec sheets tell you current draw with different props and battery combinations. This helps you pick an ESC too.

>>2030821
Just buy a bunch of chinese motors and propellers and play around with it.

>>2030901
Great info. Thanks anon

>>2018901
I was raped in the park while flying my rc helicopter if that counts

>>2029006
if latency is not an issue, you can hook up a vtx to your pc and do image processing there, like Eachine ROTG02 whish has usb connection. I personally tested opencv object detection when flying on ardupilot but haven't used it for critical mission objectives where speed is necessary since there is high latency 100ms+, but it should be great for ardurover/inav platforms.
Otherwise, I know universities use nvidia jetson and intel edison for real time image/lidar processing on quads

>>2030850
Bondo is used to fill in low spots so that when you apply the fiberglass it will be a smooth surface, otherwise it will conform to any imperfections in the hull. The resin and hardener need to be mixed in a specific ratio, yes, but you can do this accurately with a cheap kitchen scale or just with plastic paint mixing cups that have measurements on them.

Had to wait an entire week for some M2.5 bolts to arrive to actually finish this, but now I can charge USB-C PD 3.0 devices up to 20V/60W from any regular lipo battery (as well as two 18W QC3.0 USB-A sockets).

Strangely there seem to be very few options if you want to go from regular DC to USB-C PD, but there are millions of options if you want to go the other way & get regular DC from a USB-C PD source. Ended up just taking a hacksaw to a car lighter socket charger.

Any fellow /x/ fags have tried to built a to scale model of the Salvatore país patents? I am looking for a small motor with High torque, capable of rotating 200 gram metal discs at a minimum of 500rpm.

>>2024768
>That's what happens when you buy proprietary.
this is my first drone, so I don't know anything about building them nor did I want to have a home made one for my first one (I wanted one that I could easily find resources for on youtube). PS love the mavic, but might one day get into building them

>>2024782
>Anywhere selling the legit ones will be selling them at pretty much exactly the same price. Buy from somewhere reputable like Amazon (fulfilled by Amazon themselves) or direct from the DJI store online
thank you! There are many things like that around. I just found it odd that older tech didn't really decrease in price like other things do (gaming consoles for instance)

>>2025399
>Welcome to the Flying Apple™ ecosystem.
haha no kidding! If it wasn't my first drone, I might have tried something different.

>>2025472
>yes. it isn't worth trying to save money on these either. You want a battery from a reputable source.
awesome, thank you!

>>2025509
>It's safer dealing with commodities.
i'm not sure what that means LOL

>>2028108
wtf do you mean shilling dji, its literally an incredible system. You're out of your mind if you haven't switched to DJI IMO. I have a mod on my goggles that allows me to still have analog if needed but I only have used it for my tiny whoop everything else has been upgraded to DJI. It's so much fucking better theres just no comparison. Yes I understand why people would still want analog but the majority of people don't fall under that category.

>>2016957
Post your collection boys

>>2033172
He's likely from /biz/..."shilling", there, just means any mention of something.
E.g. you just shilled Tiny Whoop. I wholeheartedly agree with your comment though.

>>2033172
Alright then I guess I will look into it. Sadly I missed the opportunity for the first batch coming out but I will check it out when more stock comes out. Do you run the Vista or the air unit though.

>>2033282
I know what shilling means I was just implying that people are saying great things about DJI because its great tech not because they are getting paid to do so.
>>2033287
There should be plenty of stock left desu not sure what your talking about. I use full size air unit on long range heavy haulers or freestyle builds i want max penetration with and I use the vista on freestyle/lighter builds and also use de-cased vistas on ultra light builds.

>>2033287
air unit has on board dvr recording vista only has goggle dvr recording (so a little lower quality) but I don't care about that personally the only thing I really care about is if I want to save weight or have max range/penetration and thats what determines vista with either the normal cam or a lightweight caddx cam or just the full size air unit

>>2032025
>minimum of 500rpm
And max?
500 is pretty low. Then again if you need low rpm and high torque, that's what gearboxes are for.

>>2033863
Max is wtv. It has to hold 500 stable. I would need a gearbox for each engine, although that would ad a lot of weight I suppose? I am not familiar with drones at all, let alone diy drones.

>>2034182
Wait, are you trying to make some sort of flying machine that uses something spinning at 500rpm to produce lift? Are we talking manned helicopter size?

>>2034352
Not that poster but Its some spooky /x/ shit it flies with secret space magic

DJI FPV V2 goggles are rated for 800p 140Hz but there's no VTX with these specs. Are we expecting or a new one soon or what?

>>2034452
It flies with Pais Effect™
It's like Mass Effect, but less sexy space aliens.

>>2034457
It could simply be that the only suitable screens available that met their requirements happened to be 800 tall. The current air unit already does 720 doesn't it? Going up to 800 would make no perceptible difference.

>>2032025
Which patent is this?

>>2034352
>>2034452
>>2034579
Google Salvatore Patents list and it shows up, although those are kind of disinfo because they don't provide a way to use the thane c heins effect. Gary McKinnon, a guy known as the UFO hacker stole a bunch of info from the pentagon. He was charged, but funny thing, the bongs denied him extradition, because amerimutts weren't sharing the new toys with the other NATO powers. So he walked, and now has a YouTube channel where he Hass showed off a primitive version of the technolgy. Here's the link for his videos:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyLMmnSL6MzHzU0cw-O5G4STBzUFqUuXi

>>2034352
And no, I just to build a drone that uses anti-gravity tech. Tldr; gravity is magnetic, not a distortion of space time, and this has been hidden because of how easy it is to build strong air machines using it. They don't want the average Joe building a literal UFO capable of going against gay ass fighter jets. Also it's obvious that the US army has stronger tech using this technology, but 99% 9f the military stuff we see is 70 years behind what they have. If I succeed in building the drone, great, if I don't, meds.

>>2034841
>>2034848
Wtf did I just read.

At least I know what subtitle the next thread is going to have.

>/rcg/ - perpetual motion drones edition

>>2034874
Don't put that in the title, shills will unirocally destroy this board to. And it's not perpetual motion, it's just a floating magnet. Perpetual motion is a gay meme. You can only erase the drag of gravity (because rotating magnets, according to all leaks) and increase movement efficiency to the extreme, because the drone will be weightless, Tic-tac ufo is a good example.

>>2034874
But thanks for showing interest anon, I will try to make a sketch so that the people familiarized with drone building can give me advice.

>>2034874
>/rcg/ - General Schizoid disorder edition

>>2034879
>You can only erase the drag of gravity
>and increase movement efficiency to the extreme
>because the drone will be weightless

You should take your medication.

>faulty ESC fried a motor
>racedayquads ships out a replacement without needing the burned one back before getfpv even responded to my email
>getfpv wants the esc back before they'll send a new one

>>2034887

I need recs for a 60A+ battery cutoff switch, rated up to 12S voltages. Included XT60s are helpful, but not required. I've seen a few switches out there, but they have pigtails on them that don't look to be 12-gauge, and don't have a current rating, so I'm doubting whether they can carry as much current as a 12ga+XT60 setup generally can.

I don't really want to have to get a big bulky automotive battery cutoff switch. Do I use a relay instead?

>>2035206
I know you can get 48V automotive relays rated for 40A (from Bosch). Anything in this sort of range is going to be big & bulky, it just comes with the territory.

How do I get into diy rc (boat or car)?
know nothing

Anyone happen to know what kind of current those racewire PCBs and or LED boards can handle? Wanna give them a try on my 10".

>>2035677
Buy a cheap one to make sure you like it. Make the inevitable repairs on it to learn about it. then dump your money into a build.

I'm looking to build a smoke stopper but I haven't seen a definitive guide to build one to test with 6S batteries. Is there a particular builb (or two) I should build one with?

>>2035985
The one with the lightbulb on RDQ is like $7 and works on 6s, why bother building one in this intance?

>>2035993
The light bulb smoke stopper I'm seeing just uses a 3157 bulb and I would just need to get the bulb (or two) for less.

>>2036014
Sure but you dont know how to build one for 6s batteries and that one is rated for 6s, so why bother trying to DIY something so cheap, especially when you cant find how to DIY it?

>>2036034
>>2036014
>>2035993
>>2035985
It's literally just 3 wires & a bulb. What exactly do want a 'guide' to tell you?

What's a smoke stopper?
What's the difference between a "smoke stopper" and a fuse?
Why does it seem like some reinventing the wheel autism?

>>2036155
You could use very low value blade fuses (0.5-1A) but then you'd have to replace them every single time you connected a faulty device & they blew. The light bulb just lights up when there's a fault, it doesn't blow.

The sensible thing to do is just to buy a cheap bench power supply & use its current limit appropriately. Obviously you wouldn't buy one just for that single purpose, but they're incredibly useful for a huge number of situations in this hobby.

Can I mix OpenTX Hardware?
What transmission/reciver can I mix?

>>2036118
Just listening to the rest of one particular video from bardwell states to use two bulbs with a 6S battery, so I'll do that. I was just concerned with the voltage.

>>2036495
Your battery has a voltage. Bulbs have a voltage. This really isn't complicated.

>>2036485
OpenTX is not the same thing as an air protocol. The protocol of your receiver has to match the protocol of your transmitter, regardless of whether your radio is running OpenTX or not.

>>2036520
What air protocols exist?

>>2036548
Many. You've got traditional 2.4GHz protocols from FrSky (several), FlySky, Spektrum, Futaba, HiTec, Graupner, etc. You have 868/915MHz protocols from FrSky, TBS, DragonLink, RFD, probably some more. You have 433MHz protocols from DragonLink, ImmersionRC, MFD, etc. And you have the new 2.4GHz LoRa protocols from TBS, IRC, FlySky, etc.

Point is, you're essentially coming at this the wrong way. You choose a radio platform based upon what activities you're actually going to be using it for.

For most people & most uses a standard FrSky 2.4GHz setup (which would be the ACCESS protocol for a newcomer) is the sensible choice to start with.

>>2036548
Off the top of my head there's FrSky, FlySky, Spektrum, and Crossfire, though I think there might be others. I'm building my first quad with FrSky, though I'll probably end up building future quads with Crossfire.

I want to get a cheap drone that I can hack to stream a video feed to a custom software. Any references or ideas?

>>2036658
>stream a video feed to a custom software
Software on the drone itself, or on a receiver somewhere on the ground?

>>2036520
I got two 3357 bulbs that each have a 12.8 V rating, so I should be covered then.

>>2036732
If that's an automotive bulb, it's true rating will be 14-15V because that's what comes out of an alternator.

R8 my paintjob
>in 4 blue and pink tranny colors

>>2037486
Absolutely sick.

>>2037486
Wrong blue wrong pink which means it looks good

>>2037486
The pink splatters look stupid

New thread:
>>2037842