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...and limited space. What's the objectively best way to have them at hand while STILL having space to live in? Fully-shelved walls to the ceiling? I don't care for aesthetics, I just need a functional solution that maximizes the use of otherwise wasted space.

>> No.1965787

>>1965764
All the way to the ceiling, stacked in the proper way. You'll know what the proper way is when you go to fill them.

Or, put them in your basement/attic. Limited space gets less limited when you start thinking outside the box.

Lastly, see what you can get rid of. There is always something you can get rid of. I love books too, I have no less than 5 bookshelves in my house and most of them go to the ceiling. But even I manage to get rid of some of them on my last book purge.

>> No.1965854

Bookcases to the ceiling. Got it.
Anything else? Should I go with industrial metal style for the frames and shelves or wood shelves on metal supports mounted on the wall?

>> No.1965865

>>1965764
Keep the ones of value (probably 5% max) and then download the rest onto 3 thumb drives from libgen

>> No.1965869

>>1965854
>bookshelves along outside wall
>doubles as insulation

>> No.1965893

>>1965764
post a pic of your "thousands of books"
there is no way you have "thousands of books" that you regularly use for which they need to be "at hand", especially after the invention of the internet and how much easier it is to find specific information in regards to any possible topic vs a book

>> No.1965919

>>1965893
Could simply have a conspiratorial bent and believe that what you find in print now may very well diverge from what you would find online.
Couple that with the point you made and you can have at least a couple thousand unwanted books with a moderate level of determination

>> No.1965922

>>1965893
My dad was so convinced that Clinton was a criminal in the 90s that we have 7+ binders of newspaper clipping of every Clinton incident since 1992. He refused to toss them because he though information would be rewritten across the internet

>> No.1965961

>>1965893
>post a pic of your "thousands of books"
I won't. It's disgusting. They're all over the place, in bookshelves of various sizes, gathering dust in piles in corners and even in bags. I have inherited a large collection of books, which amounts to around four thousand. I will sell most but I will still be keeping a small percentage of them, in addition to the ones I already own. In any case, I will be left with at least a thousand to organize. Hence the thread.

>> No.1966048

>>1965893
I have a couple hundred; technical manuals, classics, theological works. Used to keep many more when I had writing ambition.
Two thousand is a pretty easy number to reach, when you consider nearly everything you've read as reference for possible projects.

Also, varying flavors of this:
>>1965919
>>1965922
I had a fascination with the evolution of multinational corporations as agents of power comparable to nation states. My collection was about 30% by volume obscure investigative journalism rags.
A living library is essential to any scholarly vocation.
>>1965764
I recommend you first parse what is and isn't useful to you. I've had many gifts sit on the shelf for years because "he likes to read." After this, build a wall of 7-8 foot free standing shelves. See how the remainder fits, and if you want more.
I had a shelf in the bedroom, two in the office, and a wall in the living room. Filled them by use case, and rearranged every couple months. I also have a box next to the sitting space for current reads and notebooks.

>> No.1966057

P_D_F_

>> No.1966103

>>1965922
Your dad predicted Wikipedia information warfare. Smart man.
https://youtu.be/t52LB2fYhoY

>> No.1966113

>>1965893
Some people like books. Throwing out perfectly fine books feels sacrilegious and selling them is mostly useless. I have several hundred manga alone, mostly stacked behind other books in deep bookshelves, and a few cardboard boxes full of books that don't fit on my shelves.

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>>1965764
make a book castle

>> No.1966140
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1966140

>>1965764
Rolling stack shelving. Used for high-density storage in libraries where space is limited.

>> No.1966145

>>1965787
>Or, put them in your basement/attic
If you do this, have some pesticides or bugs will wreck them
But I guess you have limited space so the counts the attic out

>> No.1966162

>>1965764
If you have some money you can rent a storage/garage and buy some shelves into it. If you can't do that you can buy shelves or chests (or just big boxes) into your room and you can also use them as table, chair, even sleep on them with mattress on top.
If you don't have any money you can just put them arnound the walls or put them in layers on the floor and walk on them (or put a carpet on them). I wouldn't do it to my own books, if I had any choice, but who knows, probably you've just robbed a library, and don't have any other option.

>> No.1966438

OP here.
Thanks for the replies. I'll weigh in your sugestions.

>>1966162
>probably you've just robbed a library, and don't have any other option.
Kek. I haven't but I must admit the thought crossed my mind.

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1966469

Keep in mind most book dimensions are 15x20cm, so you don't need your shelves to be deeper than 20cm and higher than 25 (or 30-35 and have some stacked on top).

>> No.1966516

>>1965764
>What's the objectively best way to have them at hand while STILL having space to live in?

PDF

>> No.1966840

>>1966057
This. Buy a book scanner, it will take less space than all your books. You can throw out your books while sharing them with the world. Information should be free.

>> No.1966853

>>1966140
This is the most efficient, and it comes up for sale second hand often when offices renovate.

However you should strengthen your floor before installing it unless you put it ground floor on a concrete base. Residences are not built to handle this kind of concentrated weight, where offices are.

>> No.1968040

>>1965764

Bookseller here.
Custom made shelves with glass cases in the front are the only way to go unless you want do get dust allergy and asthma in 3-10 years time. Books produce an incredible amount of dust and get destroyed in the process.

Also, the only proper way to organize old books is by size since some don't have authors, some don't have date of publishing etc etc. Reserve a few columns for larger (up to quarto/folio size) books, the rest usually fall under the 12o or octavo category.

Godspeed with your library Anon, post results.

>> No.1968099

>>1966140
Can you crush people between those things?

>> No.1968118

>>1965764
order them by size, then find which ones fit the same category. I got fucked in my shelves because most of the books don't fit.

>> No.1968142

>>1968099
That feature is restricted by region; I think you can only get it in China.

>> No.1968147

Got an attic with a peaked roof. Made shelves to fit 0.5 metre gap where peak meets wall. surprising amount of storage.

>> No.1968191

>>1965764
e-reader

>> No.1968195

Holy Fuck don't be insane, where did you come from /x

Get each one in digital copy on a PC or eReader. Pack away the physical one into storage.

You can start by visiting:

https://b-ok.org/

>> No.1968334

>>1966469
nice dad bod

>> No.1968643

>>1965764
The sensible response to your hoard is to build or buy a book scanner and scan then back up (follow the rule of 3s) all the books then sell or donate them. Torrent the collection and it will live online beyond your backup. Paying to store thousands of books (unless your home is paid for, you're buying the space one way or another) is a financial waste. Hoarders usually don't like to lose money but some don't mind.

>> No.1968764

>>1968099
The powered ones come with safeties. If you disable them, presumably.

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>>1965764

>> No.1968776

>>1968768
Petit Spirou?

>> No.1968777

>>1968776
Gaston Lagaffe

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>>1968768
This is now a Gaston thread.

Anyway OP, just buy a fuckload of Billys from Ikea and be done with it. Cheaper than the raw materials for DIY bookshelves.

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>>1965854
>wood shelves on metal supports mounted on the wall?
Even if you own the place that's a lot of holes in your walls. You could alleviate this by screwing your shelves to a big pannel that is fastened to the wall with fewer holes. Saves you the trouble of building standalone bookshelves that stand straigt.

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1968961

And have some more Gaston for your trouble.

>> No.1969000

>>1968040
Pretty much this. Any open shelves are dust vectors. Though you don't need glass cases. Any cabinet with doors will do. I bet you can also /diy/ doors easily on existing bookshelves.

>>1966057
>>1966516
>>1966840
>>1968191
>t. doesn't actually read books
A digital screen is not the same as reading a paper book. Plus the whole 1984 changing history thing that >>1966103 said.

>> No.1969019

>>1965919
Nigger you can have the whole Wikipedia on a usb stick. It's like dozen gigs.

>> No.1970482

>>1965922
Dad sounds pretty based>>1965922
>>1965922

>> No.1971207

personally i would invest in a digital scanner and air gapped pc and scan every single one of them and then figure out where im going to store all the physical copies.

>> No.1971238

>>1966438
You are hoarding which is fine and hoarders cannot possibly help that compulsion, but if you're going to preserve the precious consider vacuum-bagging them then storing them offsite so you get your home back.

If you protect the books they won't rot, but most hoarders are cumforted by the illusion of accomplishment (promptly followed after their debility or death by their collection going to the landfill). Bonus, you get a new way to interact with each book as you seal them for the ages and can pretend that is very important. As a hoarder myself I understand us but I don't need to pretend there's any reason for hoarding other than we cannot help our mental illness which like all mental illness is neither treatable nor curable. At least hoarding books is relatively clean BUT if you fail to protect them moisture intrusion can turn them into a mold farm.