/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1956010
Don't bother with the Depot OP, it's full of covid positive brown people right now, and the wood is all expensive anyway. What you want to do is go to a hobby shop and ask for all the balsa they can supply you with. Trust me, there hasn't been anyone in a hobby shop in the US since 1987, you'll be safe from disease and there'll be plenty of very light wood.

>>1956016
I'll be honest, I don't know much about balsa wood. Can it really take the weight of an engine, as well as a human? I just can't see that working. Not to say you're full of crap, I just don't know enough about it

>Do It Yourself
>Make a thread asking 4channel questions that can be answered using a search engine
Cool thread OP

no sane human would want to build a working plane from junk fuck off.

>>1956010
You’re gonna die trying to do that. Buy a real plane instead.

>>1956010
Step one hang glider
Step two motorbike engine
Step three don’t fall off

Look up Peter Sripol on YouTube. He's made electric ultralights from hobby electronics, pine, aluminium tubes and foam. He has a bunch of build videos and answers questions if you mail him.

>>1956026
Telling to "google" it on a diy board...

>>1956010
Here's some inspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h_cqTCT5g0

>>1956010
It would likely be more cost effective if you were to purchase a used one and restore it to working order.

>>1956090
I want you to think about this statement for a couple minutes, go into the big picture and look at society as a whole - the restrictions we put ourselves under, the goals some of us never reach because of that and then I want you to zoom out even further, medidate for a second and think back when there were no planes.

Your statement might still stand - but fuck living a life where you only travel to what the magazine offers. Did you ever have real, wild sex in-line with your fantasys? Do you consider it a possibility? This (the problems outlined in the entire post if you activily interacted with it) is what defines human society for most of its effects on you.

>>1956010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBG6_HCN3jc

>>1956335
I love the telltale signs 3rd worldlers have when lying to westerners using (our) buzzwords

>>1956010
Before you can decide what materials you will make the plane out of, you must first learn the fundamentals of aviation, such as how lift is generated and how control surfaces work. You'll need to learn about aerodynamics and how to shape the wings properly to push air downwards. I would suggest making the plane as light as possible, the heaviest thing on board should be the engine, and don't waste material and weight adding things that aren't necessary, such as a completely sealed off cockpit or a door. Better make sure you have some good landing gear too, because if manage to take off and can't find a way to slow down you are almost certainly dead or severely injured crashing at that speed.

>>1956020
It can, but not at the usual thicknesses of a model. You'd be using 1x1 inch strips or bigger.

>>1956325
Ok go kill yourself with a shitty plane you don’t know how to build because you couldn’t get laid or whatever the fuck this schizo word salad post is supposed to mean

>>1956509
hmh forcing you to evaluate yourself makes you doubt your sanity already?

>>1956509
btw. this will never go away until you face it head on and change.

>>1956344
The desperation of the speaker at the beginning about what shit he has to sell as news is palpable as real 3D-TV.

>>1956600
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with new news

>>1956325
Thank you, that sums up my feelings with this project. I wish to wreak havok, spread chaos, and live freely. No permits, no licenses, just a man and his will.

>>1956196
Thank you, this is actually better than how I envision mien to be

>>1956590
>forcing you to evaluate yourself

sir, this is a wendy's.

>>1956637
Cool annon, live bravely, and don't listen to these naysayers. Live your life without boundaries, slip the bonds of earth, and reach for heavenly heights, "but after you get killed, can I have your belongings"?

>>1956692
Thank you, if this isn't feasible then I'll start thinking about other ways to attain freedom.

>>1956010
Powered paragliding is by far the cheapest way to get into the sky. Look at Tucker Gott's youtube channel to learn more

>>1957013
Seriously annon aviation is no joke, get some training. Then live your dreams, but if you don't know what you are doing, it can kill you.

>>1957139
or worse, paralyse you and prevent you from attaining your dreams...

Sound familiar? Consider building drones first, that would be my advice

>>1957139
Anyone that childish doesn't care.

>>1956325
I want YOU to think about what you just said for a few minutes.

What do you know about air safety for fuck's sake? Or engineering? The reason building a plane is no joke is because while it's not that hard to get something that will mostly stay in the air for awhile until it breaks, without STRINGENT checks on everything, and years of testing, you'll never have the slightest idea what could go wrong until you find yourself dropping like a rock from 20k+ feet.

Unlike almost every other area of tinkering where there is some wiggle room, you will not build an aircraft yourself and live more than a year unless you get yourself a complete education in engineering and piloting.

Even a perfectly-operating aircraft with decades of reliable service in multiple theatres is a goddamned death trap unless you do everything right 100% of the time.


But if you decided to ignore what I have to say, please, please, PLEASE at least stream your maiden voyage on youtube.

>>1956325
Fuck you because when you steaming pile of shit plows in to a school or a neighborhood, or a house with someone I love if you don't die in the crash you'll be dead when I find you.

just because you can or want to do something doesn't mean you should.

>>1956016
Jej I wouldn't trust balsa at fucking all. You'd be better off both budget and integrity wise to go with like 28 gauge metal. Be the first dickhead to make a plane out of tin roofing. Do it right and you could make a boat plane.

>>1958592
What did the wright brothers know about air safety? You know how many planes they crashed before they had one that worked?

>>1958612
>T-think of the children
Back to rebbit with you

>>1958592
>op just uses some random engine
>fuel pump and tank and lines cant handle banked turning
>whoopsie

>>1958651
Exactly! I am nothing but a rebelious pioneer, seeking to escape to the skies to live freely

Sounds like you don't plan on ever going down alive so maybe look up helium balloons.

Don't listen to the retards on this thread, follow your dream anon, also search for Peter stripol he made a plane from cheap materials, maybe you can get inspiration from him

>>1958592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTjBBHxDBv0

Try doing this, OP. Good luck
https://tinkersource.com/airplanes/whing-ding-2-ultralight-airplane-plans/

would highly recommend starting with an ultralight. cheaper, safer, can glide if anything goes wrong, low airspeed.
basically a large glider wing with an underslung rear-facing prop.
people have built these in their garages and lived post-flight

There's a guy in youtube who has built like 4 diy planes.

>>1958592
If you think anything that he builds can even reach 10k feet then clearly he's not the only one with his head in the clouds. And when things go wrong he can use his diy parachute.

>>1956010
Look into powered paragliders. The idea is basically just wearing a parachute sling with a motor-fan strapped to your back.
You get the best feeling of flying around, and if your nig-rig motor dies mid flight, you're already parachuting, so you just set yourself down somewhere.

Please don't attempt to build and fly your own traditional airplane unless you actually want to die. Early aviation was really fucking dangerous... during the first decade of flight, thousands of men died in accidents and mishaps. Learn from the mistakes of the past.

>>1958694
>Don't listen to the retards on this thread, follow your dream anon, also search for Peter stripol he made a plane from cheap materials, maybe you can get inspiration from him
This

Follow ur Dreams

>>1958592
>Unlike almost every other area of tinkering where there is some wiggle room, you will not build an aircraft yourself and live more than a year unless you get yourself a complete education in engineering and piloting.

Not if he over-engineers it

Engineers are just for figuring out how cheap and thin you can make stuff before it breaks. He can go with his gut, and save a lot of time and money (and heartache!)

>>1956404
> the heaviest thing on board should be the engine
Anon, we're talking americans here

>>1959950
>Learn from the mistakes of the past.
Yeah, it's actually quite simple: don't be the test pilot.
Nowadays we have remote controls. You can use that to control your stuff and strap in a few bags of sand as your "test pilot".
If shit happens - and it will - you only lose your work and not your head as well.

>>1960196
Unless the plane crashes into his head.

Every day I come here and am grateful that people beleive in me. Someone suggested that I intend for a one way trip. This is not true. I am happy and stable. I am not an engineer, I can't do higher math, I didn't even take physics in high school.

I will make it work.

>>1956196
i never get tired of watching these
not sure if they are real or not but I have probably seen five times as many african aircraft as shown here

>>1956335
I would like to breed lieutenant zabanda with my wife so I can form my own private air force

>>1960346
Just make sure you believe very very hard
And because you are not OP, prepare for failure

>>1956010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWgShigIuYI
It's definitely possible. With sufficient time and know-how. Here's some inspiration for you OP.

>>1956010
If you want to leave this earth, may I recommend a 12 gauge

>>1956010
>sky. I know I could spend thousands on a kit, but I just don't feel like it. I'm going to "obtain" a small engine somehow and jury rig that to work.

Why not build a flying saucer? Go leave the planet, take some pics for the flat earthtards.

Conduit, bedsheets, lawnmower, bicycle.

What is the safest height from which you can fall to the ground and still survive? Of course wearing a helmet.

>>1960065
>Engineers are just for figuring out how cheap and thin you can make stuff before it breaks.
The problem with aircraft is that the margin between too flimsy to remain airborne and too heavy to get airborne is pretty tight.

>>1956325
Based, but would have been more appropriate if Planon wanted to explore truly uncharted territory. If Planons goal is simply to get in the air, then he should at least consider what society can provide to help him achieve his goal as readily and safely as possible. I am specifically thinking about the fact that some people work as pilots. This is an important job which society values. But the education to get this job is expensive. If anon is young enough, then joining the army might be an option.

>>1960761
anons is going to look much more like captain zabandas plane that that one

>>1956010
Holy shit, I made this exact thread a few months ago.

>>1956325
THIS THIS THIS
With all the shit going on I have been having these EXACT thoughts. What the fuck is happening? I was literally just thinking about doing this. Is this God telling me that I must also build a plane?

>>1960346
OP, I cannot explain how coincidental it is that I have been planning the exact same thing.
I bought a 3D printer to print some structual parts.
I don't want to live here and die here among the squabbling masses.
I will join you in the sky bro.

>>1962695
>>1962696
>>1962700

Brothers! This truly brings a smile to my face! I knew I wasn't alone. Yesterday I thought about turning a motorbike into a plane or glider of sorts. It would work better than converting a car, since the pilot would be in the center. We will find a way, and we will soar above our contemporaries. I've also thought about pedals as a source of power, as that will eliminate engine weight.

>>1962575
My friend, I wish to fly on my own accord. In my high school days I wished to be a Coast Guard pilot, but alas, my understanding of mathmathics and science leaves much to be desired. I will make my own plane, and fly my own plane, by my own authority.

>>1962708
Actually it's all me. I just made 3 posts because I find it absolutely insane that I was thinking so hard about this and already drew plans, just to see someone else wanting to do the EXACT same thing for the EXACT same reasons as me! I dropped $1000 on a 3-D printer just a few weeks ago so I could print out the ailerons and elevators, as well as smaller structual parts.

It's just so fucking crazy how I was planning the EXACT SAME THING and then I saw this thread.

>>1962718
Well no matter, one is many times better than none! What sort of plane structure were you thinking of? Congratulations on your purchase, I hope it serves you well!

>>1956010
Most important thing is the wings and getting them right.
I suggest you do EPS foam core cut with a hot wire cutter and then lay glass fibre on top, that shit is cheap as fuck, you can do a whole wing with these methods for a couple hundred dollars.

>>1956090
NGL I wanna build a full size working plane from junk now.

>>1962727
A traditional single-wing with a lawnmower engine. Not unlike your pic, but the wings would be at around shoulder level

>>1958612
What the fuck are you talking about retard

>>1959006
needs dual Spandau machine guns

Learn hang gliding, op

just buy a paramotor you faggot, you're not an engineer and you probably don't understand airfoils

>>1965399
KEK

Funny thread this. Seen it and was immediately cast back to when I was 9/10 years old. I remember reading a story about some of the early flight pioneers who would explore vast areas looking for their riches. Mainly south america. Due to the availability of the materials they all used balsa wood framed planes. They would stretch fabric across the frame and coat it in a dope solution that would harden. Kinda like fibre glass. They were death traps to be sure but they were extremely light and could take off and land in really short distances. These guys used to do surveys etc for prospecting, look out for log camps even science trips.

>>1966251
Rubber. Kek that was doing my head in. They also would try and spot areas where rubber trees were growing for the motor/manufactoring industry. These companies would then come in and set up plantations in the areas that were good for growing rubber trees.

>>1956010
you are a retard just buy a used paramotor for like 2k

>>1965319
What, and rely on someone elses plane to get up there? That would just be one more aspect of my life that depends on the will of others.
>>1965399
I'm not an engineer, I don't understand airfoils, and thats why I'm doing this. To prove people like you wrong. Anyone can fly if they really want to.

>>1965399
aliexpress reviews are a goldmine

>>1956010

Too dangerous. You need a lawn chair, some balloons, and helium. You can figure the rest out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawnchair_Larry_flight

>>1956010
dont be a retard and use a 2 stroke motorbike enigne

>>1956010
spruce my guy. For the fuselage at least. One of the highest strength to weight ratios out there.

>>1956010
Follow ur dreams plans on

Keep us updated

if you do get around to it please stream your fiery descent. bring parachutes and gopro on your helmet

>>1967752
Is that
> dont be a retard AND use a 2 stroke motorbike engine
or
>don't be a retard, and use a 2 stroke motorbike engine [instead]

>>1967995
Thank you , I'm currently dedciding on the best source of power

>>1968887
kek, I shall

>>1956325
meds

>>1956010

Anon, i am glad you want to do your thing, but you have to figure out some things first:

Engine: fuel doesnt behave the same at high altitudes. Any funny thing your engine do can stop you in mid takeoff and you eill fall down. That is one of the main causes of air accidents. That is the reason the cessnas have a compartiment to drain the water inside the fuel. It doesnt work as a car. As a general rule, be very careful using a land engine on an airplane.

Fuel: Unlike a car, that you buy and then buy fuel casually and it is a small hassle, a plane works a little different. Immense amounts of power is required to get this thing airborne and it spends an ABSURD amount of fuel. A very economical GA plane does 6 gallons of fuel per hour. 6 GALLONS. That is about 15-30 dollars PER HOUR if you live in the US. If you live in europe, where fuel is more costly, expect burning at least 60 euros EACH hour.
That is the main cost of the aircraft. After some few hours, only on fuel, you gonna spend more than you spent building the aircraft.

FAA Regulations: I appreciate you want to be free, licenseless. We all do. But do you realise how difficult things will be if you dont have a FAA PPL license to run your aircraft? And on a non FAA-Certified aircraft? It means you could face huge trouble if you tried to land anywhere but your own home. Once you try to land it, the lack of an N-number would raise questions and good luck having access to any airport or getting any FBO service (fueling, parking...)

Parking: Parking costs is another huge hassle. It is not as straightforward as parking a car. Supposing you could land it on an regional airport, and you want to know the city or do something at it, hangar daily costs are costly. Actually, just to land you would pay a not so cheap fee.

>>1960065

>Engineers are just for figuring out how cheap and thin you can make stuff before it breaks. He can go with his gut, and save a lot of time and money (and heartache!)

Engineers know a lot of important stuff too, some of which is not obvious.

What if he just leaves out something that's supposed to be there, thus not having the option to even over-engineer it?

>>1967375

>Anyone can fly if they really want to.

...and die, too, even if they don't want to.

First things first... do you have a radio flyer wagon? Strap some wings and a shitty old engine/prop to that and take it off a sweet jump over a cliff. Fly to your freedom Anon!

>>1956010
dude. get Popular Mechanic's Magazine from the 60s and 70. they have tons and tons of plans for the at home hobbiest. look at local magazine collectors or ebay or your library. very detailed schematics.

>>1956010
Idk what it is called but my father made something like this to check his cattle.
I remember flying in it once at is was amazing experience.
Dumb fucking drunk crashed the thing at a highschool football game during half time.

>>1970927
What if what if what if

Are you talking about the fuel pumps not functioning at steep angles or feet up scenario? What can he leave out? What specific engineering knowledge does he need?

>>1960068
Sounds like you're going to need a bigger engine

>>1956174
If you don't begin using the information at your fingertips you're disgustingly stupid. Before the internet we used books but the expectation not to ask for spoon feeding was much stronger then.

If you won't do the work, fuck you.
If you don't take study of aviation seriously you ain't flying shit, so fuck you again.
The homebuilt aircraft community is so small because faggot cunt larper children (everyone who thinks like a child should be killed if they're over 18) give up when they see what is really required. Good. That keeps them from annoying real aircraft mechanics.

>>1968965
i recommend usning a 2 stroke motorbike engine because you can get from a crashed bike for cheap and 2 strokes are lighter, more power, easier to fix simpler, they work in all rotations, cheaper to maintain and when you get it i recommend a rebuild

>>1971462
or use a paramotor engine

>>1970996
Not him but I would recommend some aerodynamics and controls knowledge. He will have to properly size and place the lifting surfaces if he wants a stable and controllable aircraft.