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Please help me /diy/
I bought this Ratchet Set for 40€ and don't know if i made a mistake here
What worries me about it is the Nut Sortiment
do you think i will need 14 and 16mm Nuts?
do you think it's solid quality? It says made in Taiwan but idk if it's the tools or just the plastic case lol
FYI Carolus/Gedore Red is the poorfag line from Gedore
Gedore, Hazet, Stahlwille are one of the Top Quality Brands in Germany and are on par with SnapOn or whatever in North America
I'm thinking of selling this Set and buying a self picked one from good quality Parts
The problem is i don't know what and where to buy
Because i am poor i buy affordable quality stuff
I search for professional/Industrial grade Tools that don't have that Marketing Price Tag on them
For example, some say that Promat/Format are some default Tools for Companys here in Germany, they deliver solid quality at a reasonable price but idk if it's true
Do you have some recommendations?
Some secret tips?
>inb4 just get Taiwan Tools
yeah i know about that one already but not all Tools from there are loyal and a great bang for the buck
I've watched that AvE faggot where he came across a Impact Wrench that was as good as the fancy Brand ones for a fraction of the cost but that's a rare find
Also Solid quality but still affordable Tools thread

>> No.1906653

I would use it OP. If something breaks you can still abuse the sockets, for example for pounding out old bearings, I would not use my good sockets for that.
As you seem to be a germanfag take a look at what Würth sells. You can't by there unless you own a bussines they only do B2B, but you can get some of there stuff on amazon e.g.: https://www.amazon.de/W%C3%BCrth-Zebra-Steckschl%C3%BCsselsatz-Zoll-Knarrenkasten/dp/B00FXWKKC8/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=3LTBRC6ZGZVJ1&dchild=1
I inherited some Würth tools and find them of high quality. Maybe you can get them used as well, they outlasted my uncle literally.

>> No.1906697

>>1906338
LMAO no 18mm, just like the cheapo sets in the USA

OP is going to have to waste money and buy a 3/4 us imperial standard socket

in all honesty, even bad tools are better than no tools at all.

if you care about those screw driver bits, take them out ans store them in oil, even cooking oil is better than nothing. those will rust fast, they all do unless they are blued.

just for shits and giggles, what do you call the ratchets? 6mm and 10mm, or do you use 1/4 inch and 3/8's?

>> No.1906700

>>1906338
Looks fine. Comes with a couple U-joints which is hella useful. Taiwan made is plenty enough for the weekender and you can always toss the thing in the back of your car if you want to start building up a nicer collection with a real tool box in the future. Only looks like it’s skipping 16mm and 18mm but those aren’t common. If you want a full set that covers everything up to 30mm+, you’re going to be spending a lot more money and it won’t be in a convenient case.

>> No.1906701

>>1906697
>18mm
>3/4”
3/4” is 19mm mang

>> No.1906923

Looks fairly good.

As for quality, I usually make a sound test with most tools before buying them. If they resonate too much or they fucking vibrate when you cling them they are no good.

I literally snapped a cheap chinesium wrench while doing a work.

>> No.1906936

>>1906338
buy sockets and ratchets separately. buy the cheapest no skip socket sets its hard to fuck up sockets. spend money on fine tooth ratchets

>> No.1906985

>>1906653
Hello
Ja i am a germanfag
I know about Würth but they are still expensive
the set you posted costs 4 times of what i've paid for the Gedore Red one
And they also relable Tools as their own but i will look further on it, thanks
>>1906697
what do you mean?
the Set contains 1/2" and 1/4" Ratchets
We usually call them in Zoll, Zoll=Inch in german
Someone said to me that 3/8" aren't usefull because they are either to big or to small for the job and requiere less commong Socket size, but idk
Yeah the bits seem to be not that good, even according to amazon review
>>1906700
Yeah i know about Taiwan, i know that they generally make good tools but that's not always the case
for example some people say proxxon is good other people say it's too expensive for the quality it delivers
>>1906923
alright thank you
>>1906936
yeah that's what i thought but the problem is i don't even know who's a good bang for buck ratchet manufacturer
thinking of getting bahco or famex
famex for example is apperantly made in germany and gives 10 years of warranty but they are quiet a bit more expensive than the Set in OP

>> No.1906987

>>1906985
its all about the same crap these days you would be surprised how many brands come out the same factory. I have been using tekton ratchets they seem to hold up. soak the heads in gear oil and they work even better on almost all ratchets

>> No.1906993
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1906993

>>1906985
Being expensive for what you get isn’t the same as being crappy. Like other anon said, so much of the Taiwan stuff comes out of a couple factories. Look at the Taiwan ratchets, there’s 3 or 4 different mechanism that are sold across dozens of different brands and basically make up all of the mid-range socket sets sold. Pic related, you can see how the Husky from Home Depot is the same design as some of the Craftsmans and the Gearwrench, and the Kobalt is the same as the Pittsburgh ratchets, and that Duralast is a 3rd design that is a ripoff of Snap On and the older Craftsman US design but made in Taiwan and that is seen in some other Taiwan brands too.

And 3/8” is probably the most commonly used drive size for me and a lot of people doing /o/ related stuff. I use 3/8” for almost everything under the hood because it works well for 8mm-19mm. 1/2” drive doesn’t come out until I’m doing some suspension stuff, and 1/4”, I normally use a screwdriver instead.

Anyway, those Taiwan tools have all gotten pretty damn good. You would be amazed how many mechanics are using Taiwan ratchets and sockets all day at work. If it’s good enough for those guys, it will last you years and years at home.

>> No.1907676

>>1906987
>>1906993
alright
the big problem i have is that it's hard to get these good taiwanese tools in germany
gearwrench is rare and even more expesive than domestic made tools here
do you have any recommendations where to look to get that stuff cheaply?

>> No.1907712

I got the $10 ratchet and socket set from Amazon and the ratchet broke, so I just bought a quality ratchet and use the sockets. Yes, OP, your set is good.

>> No.1907715

>>1906338
>do you think i will need 14 and 16mm Nuts
Probably, a lot of things are 14mm like drain plugs.
>Nuts
You mean sockets and/or wrenches.

>> No.1907717

>>1907715
working on a car you will find the need for every size socket you dont own and when you do own them they vanish unless you keep them locked in their boxes always they millions of tiny little legs that pop out when you are not looking and try to crawl away

>> No.1910106

>>1906338
Its a tool. Use it till it breaks and you can get something better.

>> No.1910190

>>1910106
poor
can't afford to buy something multiple times i need to get it right the first time

>> No.1910198

>>1906338
Once you pass the $4 harbor freight socket set ratchet in price range, basically all of the modern ratchets besides the craftsman raise panel (which isn't modern, but those are dogshit, perplexing how those still are sold) are serviceable.
Looking at the head, I bet it's from the same factory as the old style harbor freight composites/kobalt taiwanese ratchets from a few years ago.

>> No.1910203

>>1910106
Correct

>> No.1910206

>>1910106
Terrible advice

>>1910190
This is the right idea

>> No.1910218

>>1906338
Tldr just use it bitch and buy sockets you don’t have. Fuck...

>> No.1910409

>>1910218
jew

>> No.1910431

>I bought thing
>is it good
How the fuck should we know, we don't have it and you do. You try it and tell us.
>>1906993
>you can see how the Husky from Home Depot is the same design as some of the Craftsmans and the Gearwrench, and the Kobalt is the same as the Pittsburgh ratchets, and that Duralast is a 3rd design that is a ripoff of Snap On and the older Craftsman US design but made in Taiwan
It's a ratchet, it's not like bleeding edge technology. There's only so many ways to make one. Just because it looks vaguely similar doesn't mean it will work the same.
>>1910190
>i need to get it right the first time
Well, too late for OP then.

>> No.1910432

>>1906338
Should be adequate for most jobs. Wait until you need a wrench that isn't in your kit to buy it, that way you know your using your tools enough buy more.

>> No.1910865

>>1910409
Gotem

>> No.1910911

>>1906653
>I would not use my good sockets for that.
What's the point of having "Good" sockets you never use?

>> No.1910934

>>1910911
I use my good sockets, but not for stuff like that. But I get your point the 'too good to use syndrome' exists and some people do have it. I am not one of them.

>> No.1912615

>The problem is i don't know what and where to buy

Good quality Taiwan brands: Jonnesway, Force, King Tony, Top Tul.

>> No.1912672

>>1910431
>it’s a ratchet
The problem is mostly with the cheap round head ratchets, those fall apart every time even if you don’t abuse them. As long as you get a Taiwan guy, they will hold up to any reasonable amount of use. But you want to get halfway decent ones for when you’re really leaning into them, busted ratchets lead to busted knuckles.

>> No.1912676

>>1910911
>What's the point of having "Good" sockets you never use?

He literally said for pounding out bearings.
Whats the point of having "good" sockets if you are going to hit them with a fucking hammer and break/abuse them?

They arent made for that, no matter how expensive and high quality they are

>> No.1912963

>>1912615
Also a bigger list of good quality tools manufacturers (in no particular order):

1.Kabo / 2. King Tony / 3.Jonnesway / 4.Force / 5.TopTul / 6. Gee Tee / 7.Metrinch / 9.Ombra / 10.HEYCO / 11.HONITON / 12. Snap-on / 13. Matco Tools /14. Blue Point / 15. Gedore / 16. Stahlwille / 17. Facom / 18. USAG

>> No.1912972

>>1912615

literallywho