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I have zero skills. Do you think I could ship to Korea and make a prefab house. Or even make a log cabin? Any resources?

>> No.1789816
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>>1789787
Hey I just happened to come to /diy/ for almost the same reason, I want to move to somewhere final and build a cabin/homestead I can die in.
This is the best I got, OP. I thought I had downloaded a PDF on cabin-craft but I actually haven't.

>> No.1789867

>>1789787
>zero skills
Even pre-fab needs skill. Learn to use tools, do small stuff and watch others to learn.

>> No.1790812

>>1789867
This desu, prefab needs to be filled out with additional rooms and maybe a porch. Sometimes it has issues in transit, windows might get chipped (no not Bill Gates.), the wiring might be fucky, depending on the material used for the walls that could be warped.
It'll take a few attempts to figure out where you want to be, if you choose to build a log cabin. I've refreshed my interest in building a final place somewhere in the pines. Bumping for more information

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>>1789816
>pier foundation

weak shit my man. Wack!

>>1789787
Mr. Chickadee managed to pull it of by himself, but few can compare to him, you can learn but dont underestimate it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjp2qyJ4kAo

>> No.1791855

>>1791683
>weak shit
Shieet, thank you for the video at least. Just getting more into this since I figure cabin-craft is going to be a required skill soon.

>> No.1792033

I wonder how much land do you need to get all the logs? I imagine they have to be quite uniform so any old tree wont do.

>> No.1792034

I need you to fax yourself to the inside of your own asshole.

>> No.1792165

Walk before you run city boy

>> No.1792292

>>1789787
Why would you build a log cabin? IMO it takes ten times more material, more time, more maintenance and more pain to build a log cabin that is inferior in every way to a plank house. If, OP, you do wish to spend time manually erecting a home, then do what the Japanese do and lay boulders as your quasi-foundation, smooth then, and scribe their surface into vertical foundation pillars (short pillars supporting only the first foundation later/bottom of house) so that your home rests on boulders with massive contact surface to transmit your house load into the Earth. Tada, no need for concrete, and your box frame is sturdier than it would be otherwise.

OP, just so this: drop a plywood panel on the ground, randomly drop some lightweight 2x3 wood studs on it, and lay another panel on top. Tada: wall. Then start experimenting. If you want to do logs, then instead spend that time doing fancier and more precise lumber joinery, stairs (inc. attick), floorboards, patio and so on. My favorite home is still a simple cabin: a giant "X" truss resting on eight foundation pillars (concrete, but can be stone) with studs and plywood on top. Tada, immune to everything, costs nothing, easy to make... Kinda... And when the snow arrives, your deck is level with the snow. Half the frame is cabin (250 sqft), the other half is patio.

>> No.1792324

>>1791855
>cabin-craft is going to be a required skill soon.

you can bet, dick proeneke survived that way in alaska, but Mr. Chickadee is a real American hero not some billybob wannabe crastsman as well and only thing he did with help of other is raising some peers, watche everything on his channel he is a geniuous

>> No.1793332

>>1792324
I've been on a longer homestead binge on (((you)))tube than ever before, on this now but I can definitely say Mr. Chickadee is an artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jipME-yoUO0

>> No.1793371

>>1789787
There’s many free houses in Japan that most people don’t know about. But citizenship is a bitch

>> No.1793390

What?

>> No.1793433

>>1793332
>Mr. Chickadee is an artist

why would you insult such a talented man like that?

>> No.1794140
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>>1789787
I'm a huge advocate for post frame for simple construction. It's pretty forgiving, simple, and fast. You can make them look really nice or really boring.
>place posts upright
>apply outside horizontal boards (girts)
>add headers (thicker girts to support roof)
>throw up the trusses and purlins
>add trim
>add metal siding everywhere
>?????
>finish inside as desired
>live inside
They are often very cheap/sqft compared to stick framing and exceptionally strong. They also insulate well.

>> No.1794141

>>1789787
everything is expensive in korea. don't do that

>> No.1794288

>>1794140
Where can I find more

>> No.1794312
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>>1794288
You can make it yourself, or generally the companies that make them advertise as barn companies typically, or barndominiums. Typically they are split as a large workshop area and a living area. They can be pretty basic like this, or very complex. Some people do have the whole building as just a home, but generally when I was making them there was a definite living quarters and a definite workshop.

But to look around post frame building, barndominium, pole barn are the main search terms. That will get you pointed in the right direction, then you can figure out more specifics. I can answer questions about them, though, I didn't do any inside finishing or concrete work. I do know pouring concrete is much cheaper after the building is built as you can use the framing as a pour guide.

>> No.1794313
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>>1794312
Most basic design, but makes a nice cheap home, garage or workshop.

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>>1794313
More residential design. To add post frame is just a different style of framing vs conventional stick frame. Your using larger and fewer boards. You can have any kind of style.

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>>1794315
Much more traditional home design. One thing that will be on more or less all post frame is metal siding and roof. This adds a ton of strength and is very resilient, it is fairly expensive though compared to tradional siding and shingles. The homes will (pretty much) always come out cheaper though vs stick frame of a similar design.

>> No.1794318

>>1794312
What did you do instead of pouring concrete

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>>1794318
I personally did everything to go from flat dirt to a building shell. But if you asking more about the concrete later, you just leave a dirt floor until the building is finished. When I was finished it looked generally like this (minus concrete), sometimes I did insulation sheets on the walls. All depended on building purpose.

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>>1794318
Inside would look like this, sometimes we'd use the permacolumn precast pillars like pictured, the permacolumn wetset brackets, sometimes just post protectors (plastic wrap) or sometime bare post into ground. After it's all built the concrete guys come in and use the skirt board to act as the mold for the floor which cut down on their set up time and pour time (saving money).

>> No.1795155

the problem is that the more you think about it, there is almost always a better option somewhere. The "building your own cabin" niche is a lot smaller than you think.

>want the benefits of home ownership on the cheap?
Fixer upper houses and foreclosures usually are a better bet, with work that takes much less skill.

>want to put a dwelling on some land you already own?
You already own that land for a reason, which means you probably have some money coming in. keep doing what you're good at doing and let professionals do what they are best at.

>want something exotic and cool?
Spend the money to get it done right. these things are time intensive and need to usually be built in a timely manner. You don't have time to learn on the go and if life gets in the way, you could lose your entire investment.

>> No.1795200

>>1795155
The best reasons to build your own house is for the sake of it, and the best financial circumstance to build your own house is if you have the necessary skills and have the time to save the labor costs you would otherwise be paying

>> No.1795245

>>1795200
yes. You would want to build your own house only if you already had a home, tools, money and knowhow.

A lot of people think that they can watch youtube videos like they could with a car or most other DIY crafts, but a house has a lot of moving parts and they will all need on the fly adjustments to the original plan. You can't just replicate what you see on screen, but you have to understand the fundamentals thats going into why X is being done in what way.