/diy/ - Do It Yourself

They are all made in china ya dingus

>>1786247
>Made In ______*

*with global materials

>>1786223
I have this grinder and I've used it every day for years and it still goes strong as ever.
The impact actually gets stronger instead of weaker after a year of use. (This has been tested and proven)
Plus milwaukee has lots of tools no other company makes.
Their warranty is also amazing, I bought a cordless grinder off offerup for basically nothing and the aluminum housing was broken, it must have fallen off a truck or something.
I made a warranty claim online and sent the tool in and they sent it back with no questions asked and I paid nothing.
The tool I got back looked brand new.

>>1786269
What's the point of a cordless 230mm grinder? They can't even match performance of a corded (2000-2500W) one on a battery

>>1786270
Huh?
The cordless one is just as powerful as my bosch or dewalt corded one.
The 9 inch grinder is insanely powerful, it cuts through steel like butter.
I own like 10 grinders, corded and cordless, how many do you own??

>>1786271
>battery that can at maximum output 1500W (not even continuously) matches a 2500W cord

Sure.

>>1786272
What? A standard 15 amp breaker only puts out 1800w, no power tools are more than 1800w in America.
Also, europe is so cucked their vacuums arent allowed to be over 800w anymore, so I assume the same applies to their tools ahahahahahah
Good job going green you retards

>>1786223
Because China makes good brushless motors and at extremely low prices.

I'm a Chervon fan.

>>1786272
You would be surprised what brushlessed motors and big lithium packs can do. Nobody ever thought cordless impacts would touch air tools either.

>>1786223
>pretending everything china makes is worse than other places.
ok trump

>>1786223
>he thinks "high end" tool brands arnt the same level of Chinesium garbage

>>1786275
That's an America problem, I can buy a 2600W angle grinder no problem.
And I can buy a Class M vacuum with 1300W+ without issue, what the hell are you talking about?

>>1786275
not getting a 3phase brush-less 200Hz grinder with 2200W

>>1786416
>google class m vacuum
>its all shop vacs
Yes, this is perfect for the living room.
>his vacuum has a class
How fucking pathetic lol.
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2017/08/eu-vacuum-cleaner-ban-2017-everything-you-need-to-know/

>>1786449
>3phase brush-less
except the milwaukee m18 9 inch grinder is literally a 3 phase brushless motor lol
My grinder is already 3 phase brushless.
I should hook my amp clamp up to it and measure the current draw when cutting metal, I bet it's stupid high.

>>1786275
>burgers only get shitty 230mm grinders as powerful as the weak battery powered ones
>"my battery powered grinder is just as powerful as the AC ones!"
Soon the battery grinders will be better than corded ones because of the gay-ass mains they have.

>>1786247
Makita is not made in China, their stuff on the EU market is mostly made in Romania. Of course the electronics inside are probably still chink.

>>1786519
>ignorant Yuro who hasn’t used a cordless power tool made in the past 5 years because a DeWalt compact drill costs 6 months wages

>>1786521
I think my m18 9 in grinder with a 12ah battery would cost about 1000 euros, it's pretty insane how much they have to pay for things.
Feels good to just literally buy whatever tools I want because of how cheap they are here.

This is a small fraction of my milwaukee set, it's about 5x bigger than this.
Don't mind the Pittsburgh chink tools, that was shit from my old work.

>>1786527
Doesn't help that Milwaukee is for some reason priced as an ultra-premium brand like Snap-On is in America. A Makita 36V grinder would be about 400-500 euros with two batteries.

>>1786378
but they sell for a higher price so that means they're better.
lol.

>>1786687
snap on doesn't even have a brush-less impact yet.
their brushed on is 800+cad.

>>1786449
What's the point of brushless in a wired tool?

Brushes aren't hard to replace and energy efficiency isn't really a concern.

>>1786704
They run cooler as well.

>>1786697
Supposedly the big brushed impacts like the Snappy and Earthquakes loose power, but I haven’t heard the same from the big Milwaukee brushless guns. I don’t even work in an auto shop, but more than once I have heard “Yeah I have a Snap On cordless impact wrench, but I had to send it out for a rebuild”.

Also you gotta pay for those annual Snappy rebuilds and I think it’s like half the price of buying the damn Milwaukee, plus one of your main tools is gone for a couple weeks.

>>1786527
We know you love your Pride sockets

>>1786527
those tools look like new.
do you even use them?

>>1786817
Don't buy Snapon power tools. They claim they're made 1st party by Snapon itself, but they clearly are not. They're made in china like everything else. Probably the same factories that make Milkwaukee and the rest of them.

>>1786223
It’s a damn shame since I still use several of their corded tools that were made in USA on a frequent basis (hole hawg and hole dozer). Those tools will never die. I’m going to keep my American sawzall with it’s metal carrying case as a family heirloom.

My company still uses Milwaukee on the jobsite but in my experience their batteries and cordless drills are 50/50 complete shit. I also moved over to a cordless hilti hammer drill because the Milwaukee one is weak garbage. Their cordless impacts are of excellent quality though, with the exception of the belt clip part that always snaps off. I also appreciate them honoring the warranty, no questions asked.

>>1786449
>3phase brush-less
why they hell would a three phase motor have brushes

>>1786956
At my job we drill straight thru 8x8 and 6x6 posts using a milwaukee like this
It's rigged up with 12 ft of conduit with fat wire welded on for threading, and a 1.25" auger bit at the end
It is every bit as primitive as it sounds
We did shear the chuck screw once but have never managed to kill it despite using it on most projects

>>1786888
Huh?
I use them every day?
Which other ones would you like to see?

>>1786223
>Fein
>similiar price
Lol.
Don't get me wrong, Fein is worth the money. But they're still fucking expensive, usually three- to four times more than a comparable Bosch blue or Makita.

As for Metabo and Bosch, they're cheap chinese crap as well. I have a Fein Inox 17-70 and had the chance to compare it directly with a Bosch (blue) adjustable angle grinder my grandmother owns. The Fein runs noticeably smoother, and while with the Bosch, I need hearing protection all the time, with the Fein I only need it when cutting at max RPM.

Also, so far, the only tools I've ever seen anybody remotely professional use are Fein, Makita and Hilti.

>>1787032
>But they're still fucking expensive, usually three- to four times more than a comparable Bosch blue or Makita.
???
Bosch's strongest 18V drill costs 160$ tool only, Fein's 4 speed drill with detachable chucks costs around 180$
18V Angle grinders are both in $20 of each other.

What are you talking about?

>>1786990
Hole hawg milwaukee's are a hell of a tool. I have used them to mix all sorts of grout and tile mortar/grout. My dad fucked up his thumb with one a while back though. Torquey sons of bitches.

>>1786990
top shelf beasts of a drill, used in plumbing with 2-9/16" wood bits mowing thru double studs like butter... but catch a nail and wrist sprain was imminent if grip wasn't firm.. excellent drill

>>1787015
Any problems with the ratcheting mechanism in the cordless ratchet? Mine makes a weird metallic sound after leaning on it slightly too hard.

>>1787438
Nope, works perfectly still.
I use my fuel ratchet a lot more than my non-fuel one these days though.

>>1787115
the cordless Super Hawgs are just as powerful and have brakes so they wont rip your arm off when you hit something solid.

>>1787063
>>1787115
yeah we've had some new guys come close to real injury with the rig. Had to put grip tape on the floor where we drill lol.
there's a really small sweet spot between boring at a decent speed and instant bind up.
we're getting a hydraulic sled + lathe motor setup soon, gonna miss her.
I'll post a pic if the thread's still up on monday

>>1787438
That’s a common complaint in the non-Fuel M12 ratchets. The Fuels have a much larger head to fight that. You can probably find a rebuild kit for it if you want.

>>1786251
Should come up with some (((Goldberg))) parenthesis meme for globally sourced chineseum products.

>>1787685
Enjoy our beautiful {{{BEST QUALITY ORIGINAL Jewish parenthesis}}}.

Found the Milwakee drill none too bad, but could skip the grinder- it's that problem where you're buying into a system, you know? I ended up going with bosch blue because the grinder is primo; but that meant I ended up with bosch drill, circ saw and impact driver- etc. Used a buddies milwakee stuff on site, cant fault the drill, can't fault the circ saw- the grinder... nope. and the flappy paddle has the safety broken off, so you picked it up and it went- then in use was a bit aneamic. I guess what I'm saying is nobody is firing on all cylinders, but for grinders: bosch. For circ saws...literally any other. Milwaukee has every toy, but you know..what are you going to be using most?

oh, the milwaukee rattle gun... yeah. winner.

>>1786687

Are you European? It must be because I live in Wisconsin, Milwaukee prices are very comparable to Makita prices around here.

>>1787697
Did you use the fuel grinder or the regular one?
The regular one is literally useless trash, it stalls out when you apply any pressure.
The fuel one is just as powerful as a corded grinder.

don't know about the Euro guy, but in Australia DeWalt/Milwaukee/Makita/Bosch/Hitachi are all comparable price- Hilti on the otherhand...$ I'd like to think that Milwaukee should the official brand of Wisconsin?

>>1787700
It musn't have been fuel- it was a bit gutless

>>1787702
Milwaukee and Snap On are both out of Wisconsin, and Chicago is the home of a few other industrial tool brands.

>>1786223
what do you think of this parkside drill. for 70€ compatible with all 20V parkside.

>>1787864
It has a Rohm chuck that costs like $30 alone, so there's probably something very wrong with it

>>1787864
For the price you goys pay for tools, looks straight. Doesn’t have a hammer drill function though so no drilling into bricks or concrete or anything.

>>1787877
Kek, if they care enough to use a real chuck, can’t be too bad

>>1787883
Parkside takes a lot of inspiration (read: rebrand) from Bosch, Einhel and Scheppach, the chuck might be high end but the vibration on this thing will probably be shit, still costs like 1/3 of a Makita/Bosch so it's not a bad deal, just not interested in a new battery system.

>>1787885
What other options do you have in Yurostan? I don’t think the good deals on Ryobi exist there, and anything else affordable is complete garbage. What about green Bosch? All we get is Blue and it’s priced about the same as the other brands that have better tool selections and better sales.

At least it’s Li-Ion. Although for weekenders who might only use the drill a handful of times a year, I have been shilling the 12V tools. If I need a drill to put in a few drywall anchors or assemble some furniture, I grab the 12V tools. In the US, you can get sales on Milwaukee M12 and get a drill, impact driver, hackzall, and a couple batteries for <$150, so it’s pro level 12V tools for about the price of hobbyist 18V kits. Only problem is you’re probably not going to ever get a full size circular saw that runs off those batteries, but Milwaukee has so much 12V shit out now and the bare tools are affordable compared to the 18V, much easier to add a new tool for $90 than $190.

>>1787897
Hmm, Worx, Parkside, Einhell's "high end" range, those are pretty cheap as dirt and are around Ryobi quality.
Green Bosch is shit for over 15 years, I got their green boschhammer that's over 20 years old and it's still a beast, sometimes in the last 2 decades the build quality on green tools went to shit.
Also I can easily buy ryobi from UK sites, we had them locally as well but people were more interested in Makita/Bosch

>>1787900
This is just hearsay though, I don't buy these homegamer tools since I prefer to buy only once until it's broken.

>>1787900
Worx always seemed cheaper than Ryobi, or it’s closer to the real low end Ryobi but the newer Brushless is quite a bit better than Worx. Worx is more like Black & Decker that your lesbian aunt has to hang pictures on the wall.

What about the new Skil cordless tools? Those have been getting really good reviews among the weekender tools and the prices are nice on Amazon.

>>1787904
>What about the new Skil cordless tools
Skil got sold by Bosch to the chinks, and I don't know anyone here who buys them so I can't tell you if they're any good, even Bauhaus stopped selling them

>>1787915
They’re made by Chevron or Textron or whatever one of those big conglomerates owns them now. I was trying to research it a little bit, IIRC it’s the same company that makes the green Menards power tools, so it’s like DIYer tier or tech on a budget tools and you will get a lot for the money.

>>1786704

explosions

>>1787980
I forgot about that one, like the stainless steel wrenches and screwdrivers that cost $$$.

>>1786223
I own a Hilti AG600, best goddamn Angle grinder I've ever used. I've bought every Hilti tool I own used and they can take a beating, older Milwaukee stuff such as 1st gen Fuel are bretty gud too.

>>1786378
Their batteries are made in China but most Hilti tools are made either in Poland or Lichtenstein

>>1786519
>need heatgun for BIG heat shrinks.
>find biggest one in catalog 1500/1800w
>totally inadequate
Fuckers
>can only find industrial fixed machines or scandalous chink shit at 220v.

I just need to replace a blowtorch, with a heating element and fan, is th age t reall so much to ask?

Urrea used to be part of proto, somehow or another proto told them to fuck off but left all the equipment, hence proto quality tools, made with proto design and equipment at Mexican prices. Good shit.

>>1787897
>green bosch
they were good long ago but now
89,99€ that's 99$ for this abortion

>>1787980
>angle grinder

>>1788137
absolute wew moment.

>>1786223
This torque wrench is a beast, that's why.

>>1788136
Are the batteries interchangeable with the blue tools or no?

How about the 12V? Bosch has decent little 12V impact driver and a hackzall in blue and they go on sale like $99 for one tool and a couple batteries, I would think about rocking those if I could get the baby green chainsaw as a novelty.

>tfw just googled it and they look different
That blows. Would be cool to have an option like Milwaukee Fuel on tools you need real heavy duty and use the same batteries on an affordable Ryobi tier tool that might get used twice a year, Bosch blue and green could be like that.

>>1788671
I would like a blue version of this tool, actually super useful for pruning and cutting off shit like plastic (example would be really fucking useful to cut out the rear light shielding plastic on my Nissan) where a recipo or jigsaw couldn't do because too much vibration

>>1786527
you defo need lots of tools when you have to get that piece of garbage hemi running again or when thet 46re breaks lmao

>>1789726
What? The only dodge thing I own is two second gen cummins 12v
And they are manual.

>>1788661
The only problem I have with these is their disposable tools. They wear out quickly relative to hand tools and you throw them away and buy another one. Their handy as fuck but something air driven that can be repaired seems to be a much better value in the long run.

>>1789754
uhh no, they get more powerful with time, I've been using my ratchets and impacts for years now every day and they aren't giving up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x8CQ42_rpk

>>1789750
>only cum ins
>no cum outs
never gonna make it

>>1789063
Problem is I can’t imagine those blades being very affordable compared to a 6” sawzall blade.

>>1789874
It's pretty much "three times a year" tool, but I would still pay for that.

>>1789877
Yeah but the hackzall is more of a 20+ times a year tool. Problem is I think they made the 12V Fuel pretty big.

I want to grab a Ridgid Jobmax, I need one of those oscillating multitools and this has the different heads and you can get an air powered base, 120V, 18V, or the 12V. 18V is the new Octane brushless and looks like it has some balls. 12V looks like it would be perfect for pruning with the little saw head, but it’s an older brushed design and would probably bog down on heavier stuff.

>>1787063
>>1787115
Here she is. Most of the time we only have to go 5 ft from both ends to the switch box cutout, but it'll go all the way thru no problem

>>1788671
>>1790040
Milwaukee actually has patent documents submitted for a M12 Fuel version of Bosch's little chainsaw, it even had a little bar oil bottle hanging off of the side but i dont see a reason for them to realistically make something like that with proprietary blades.

>>1790040
the pneumatic Jobmax is a pretty neat tool but impossible to find now, its the one of the few ways to get an air-powered sawzall or osculating multitool for oddball jobs like roof or automotive applications.

one roofer i bumped into used a long out of production Ridgid pneumatic roofing cutter and he said it was the best tool he had ever used.

>>1790280
I remember seeing that. They could totally sell it on the cool factor.

>>1790284
They made a ratchet attachment for the Jobmax a few years ago too, but now people who still have them are gouging on the price. I think they stopped making them after the M12 ratchets started selling, it seems like there’s a handful of tools that Ridgid could sell but they don’t since they don’t want to step on Milwaukee’s toes.

>>1786247
wrong, dingus. higher tier makita can be made in uk,belgium, japan.

>>1786271
if you think it can match a corded then you ain't using it right son.

>>1786247
Only Milwaukee.
Dewalt makes stuff globally and in the US
Bosch makes first batches of new tools in Germany, later on moves to Romania and Malaysia, but some tools like Boschhammers and high end angle grinders are always made in Germany.
Makita makes highend stuff in Japan.

>>1786957
You can have slip rings if the rotor is magnetically excited

>>1786223
Hitachi 5 inch angle grinder made in nippon folded over 10,000 times

>>1787438
Broke the crankshaft in my non fuel ratchet.
New ones come from Alaska of all places.

>>1791471
>Hitachi
>mad in Japan

Metabo-HPT is German Soil

>>1791662
Bullshit

>>1791662
>Metabo-HPT
Fucking America, why the fuck was this needed?

Metabo, Metabo-HPT, Hikoki and Hitachi are completely different things!

Hikoki/Hitachi are compatible with HPT,
Metabo is not compatible with any of those

?????

>>1787046
>What are you talking about?
I'm talking about german prices. Didn't think you burgers were getting scammed that much.

For example, right now, the cheapest Fein percussion drill is 300€, while the cheapest Bosch (blue) percussion drill is 80€ and the cheapest Bosch (green) is 60€ directly from the manufacturers.
Same with rpm adjustable angle grinders, where the Fein costs 230€ while the Bosch blue costs 60€.
All cable-bound tools and all prices with tax included.

As for the 18V tools, the cheapest Bosch anglegrinder is 100€ while the cheapest Fein is 280€.

In general, Bosch is only around 20-30% more expensive than no-name chinese stuff here, and even then, nobody that actually uses the tools buys Bosch.

>>1791687
Nigger what the fuck are you smoking?

https://www.amazon.de/Akku-Bohrschrauber-Bohrschrauber-Schnittstelle-Vollmetall-Bohrfutter-hartmetallbest%C3%BCckte/dp/B06ZZ8TXCD?ref_=ast_sto_dp
https://www.amazon.de/Bosch-Professional-Schlagbohrschrauber-Schrauben-%E2%88%85-L-BOXX/dp/B01N2V898X/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=bosch+18v-85&qid=1585915455&sr=8-3

Don't compare bare tools to kits, what the fuck.

>>1788661
Can confirm.

>>1787032
a lot of the welders i know swear by metabo grinders
and Bosch is akshually decent
we have a cordless drill 14v, i think since 2007 or 2009 bought with the expectation of dying withing 3 months.
It installed railing for more than 50kW PV in the first summer (thats like 10K Lag screws in timber ~10cm long) and since gets used frequently in staples, high humidity, ammonia,corrosive air and literal shit, fallen from heights a lot
now after over a decade of use in the open, the chuck is giving up.

Fine tools have godlike ergonomics, we got a few at work, but i will never buy them myself. Theres just no way justifying 8x higher price on a multi-tool for the nicer mold.
>>1791689
you dumb nigger, the Bosch you posted is a percussion drill.

>>1792004
>you dumb nigger, the Bosch you posted is a percussion drill.
Oh, I'm so sorry!

https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/fein-abh-18-select-18v-3-mode-rotary-sds-hammer-drill-body-only-in-carry-case