/diy/ - Do It Yourself

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>>1769953
>International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
>Allied Builders Commission
>Local Open Shops

I find that many of the Vocational class rooms often cost money and prepare you only to be bottom rung sparky often making anywhere from you regional minimal wages which could change from federal to what ever is stock entry level job. I started at this point and frankly im gonna burn out before I see anything in a form of a decent wage. I was doing full services for 11 a hr. the electrican is charging about from 1600(friend cost) to 320 for a single 100 amp upgrade. In my area thats about 400 in material, 200 in paperwork related to the job, my labor often less than 100 for the day. The remainder is gonna be complete profit for the JM/Master.

You will realize also often the local shops will not help or aid you in getting certified/licensed because it cuts into their bottom line. I have been in the field for 5 years. I regret not going union. In my state you need 7.5 years of verified working hours because you can even take the Journeyman exam. You also have to consider how the laws in most states work as well. It has been turned into a nightmare. I have seen guys with in two years understood more than 20 year vets and they burnt out just trying to get to a living wage.

Its pretty bleak for most people shelf life is 5 years before people move on with their lives. Its a dying trade frankly...once innovations from other sectors begin to build pressure other tradesman from other trades will attempt to work into electrical as it will be one of the last holdouts. I am sure you can image what I mean.

>>1770317
>320 for a single 100 amp upgrade.
$3,200 for a single 100 amp upgrade

>>1769953
What is your goal, to git gud or become licensed? Sitting though school and punching the clock will get you loisenced, but you will only end up with the skills you need for your immediate job. Trade school does the bare minimum to check the boxes for the DOL, and your employer largely doesn't care about cross training because accountants and algorithms run the show in large companies. Minimum effort: go industrial and stay at the same factory forever. Best outcome: jump companies and specializations often to learn as much as possible. I can elaborate if you'd like to know more.
>t.apprenticician

>>1769953
>AAS required to pull wire and get coffee.
Fuck this system.

>>1769953
I work with journeymen who can't read a tape measure less a blue print. Other guys who can do it all, are so fucking lazy and bitter, it's such a pain to work with them.

You're fine. Buy a iron pipe bender and 3/4 EMT, and start watching youtube videos. Once you get used to conduit bending, you'll be on the right track.

>>1771619
lol just trying to make money

Didn’t think it deserved a thread, so figured I’d ask here since I can’t find a straight answer online.
My water heater is on a quad breaker with 30 20 20 30 amp switches in that order, but what is the ‘real’ amp value of the circuit? It’s running a 4400 watt heater and one of the switches is iffy and doesn’t close right, so I’m trying to make sure it doesn’t burn my house down before I can get an electrician out to see it.

>>1771988
I know nothing and for some reason what you said terrifies me