/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1718117
yes, i love mine. bought enough blades to last me the end of my life for like 5 bucks

>>1718123
As an uncoordinated brainlet who recently started using these, how do I stop carving the shit out of my face? I used to be able to shave with ease now I cut myself every time.

>>1718124
get a good lather with a bar of soap
don't press super hard
go with the grain
careful with lateral movements

>>1718126
Thank you. Any particular soap you recommend?

>>1718117
Yes

>>1718123
What he says

Basically I spend around €2 a year for shaving

>>1718123
which razor and blades did u buy?

>>1718134
cheap shaving soap is fine, most of the medium expense brands are decent too, the premium ones generally just smell better

remember that you're working with only one blade. you'll find that shaving at too shallow or to great an angle will be very harsh on your face.

also, with this kind of razor you must do many short motions to shave maybe a few centimetres at a time, rather than long whole-face motions

>>1718134
Hair conditioner works quite well, and is cheap for a lot.

>>1718124
-Make sure your skin and hair is wet to start. This will make your skin more pliable and your hair softer.

-Use short, small strokes and rinse often.

-Make your skin as taut as possible. This make require making funny faces and/or using your finger.

-Using a single blade typically means shaving a little more often. Don't wait until you have a quarter inch of hair.

>>1718124
I find shaving at the tail end of a hot shower or bath is best. The hair cuts easier. Or you could wrap your face in a hot, wet towel for a few minutes to soften the hair. That is what barbers do.

>>1718117
https://www.dollartree.com/assured-double-edge-safety-razors-with-5-blades/269383 Get these bitches at the Dollar Tree. Literally a dollar. Use the store locator to find a location, because otherwise you have to buy a case of 36 of them in bulk, and unless you are trying to survive an apocalypse, there is no need. Every once in a while turning the wheel on the bottom misaligns the clamps that hold the blade in, and you have to pop it back into place (takes one minute and two brain cells), but otherwise they work like a charm. Just don't over-turn the wheel and you're golden. It'll give you a chance to decide if you like using these without having to sink 20 bucks on a fancier one. (Not that I've bought a fancier one, I still use this kind.)

>>1718124
Everything that has been said so far, plus this:
Rinse your face with warm water to start, and rinse your razor off with COLD water whenever hair builds up. Not cool, COLD. Ice cold. Pour icy water from the tap into a big old mason jar and swish your blade in, or just rinse it under the stream. The cold causes the metal to contract into a finer, sharper edge and makes for a noticeably better shave.

Don't feel insecure if your father never taught you this shit. I had to learn myself. https://www.artofmanliness.com/category/dress-grooming/shaving/

>>1718227
This. It softens the hair so it cuts easier and opens pores. I've used a d.e. razor and a straight razor switching off for the last 10 years.

Spent a little over $100 for my kit which I pieced together with a razor, 100 pack blade sampler, brush, soap, soap bowl and razor/brush stand. I haven't needed to buy anything more in over five years and have only rarely cut myself which was always due to improper handling.
Hell I bought another razor just for manscaping and that has been a dream to use as well.

>>1718117
good for face. bad for everywhere else

>>1718124
you must be doing it right, my dad used those when I was a kid, and cut him self all the time.

>>1718240
the instant those disposable razors came out, he stopped using the old kind.

Diy is becoming shit. Double edge razors were great 50 years ago. Shaving cream is a meme. Shaving cream is lather in a can. Buy some decent mach 3 blades or kirkland. I used a double edge with feather blades. I can even still use a straight blade. I'm not a man's man but I don't need to be spending 10 minutes shaving when I can just use a Kirkland and bar of soap for lather and just be done

>>1718246
I shave with an electric shaver, 5 minutes max. I can shave anywhere I want.

>>1718140
Dont buy gillette, they like trannies and the chinese improved their blades

>>1718124
Different razors have a different angle/gap where the blade meets the guard. This provides a tradeoff between ease of getting a close shave and risk of cutting yourself / irritating skin. Sharper blades (e.g. Feathers) can also be more prone to cuts / irritation if you're not experienced with them. As you might expect from something trendy, there are communities dedicated to safety razors, and though it may take time to dig through them, they can contain a lot of useful information:
https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/wiki/Modern_Double-Edged_Safety_Razors_Ranked_by_Aggressiveness
You might check out something from the bottom of that list.

>>1718117
I like them for speed. I shave dry, and safety razors don't need rinses to clear trimmings as you go like cartridge razors do. But then, I have unreal hand-eye coordination and don't get razor burn, so your mileage may vary. Cut quality with a good blade is comparable to cartridge razors. Blade life is a bit less, but with the much lower cost per blade, operating costs are a lot less. The initial investment is larger, but payback probably won't be very long if you don't go overboard buying into "the experience".

>>1718134

Colonel Conk's Almond scented shave soap. Like $5 a bar, but it's amazing. You can thank me later.

>>1718117
Not really. I've been using one for a year and still cut myself all the time. It is nice that they aren't as wasteful as the plastic disposable kind.

>>1718308
...are you not using a new blade every shave?

>>1718316
>using a new blade every shave
Do you sell razor blades?

>>1718316
you can get a pack of 100 DE blades, so 200 F R E S H edges, for about teh same as a 15 pack of cartridges.

https://www.westcoastshaving.com/products/astra-superior-platinum-double-edge-razor-blades-100-blades

This is one example.

Fresh blade every fucking shave, 200 shaves, that's like all fucking year m8. for $20. you can't be that poor.

You are not supposed to use the same blade twice. Even with the cartridges.

>>1718329
It took you over a day and 24 posts to realize this is a shill thread?

>>1718343
I use them 2 to 3 times before using a new one. Realy depends on your beard and how cheap your blades are.

Asking here because it’s been on my mind and is semi relevant.

Are there any electric shavers/trimmers that can achieve a close shave? At least as close as a disposable razor? I have really sensitive skin and always get razor burn, ingrown hairs, and nicks whenever I shave with a razor. I’ve seen barbers use trimmers that appear to more or less cut down to the skin but every electric trimmer/shaver I’ve ever used has been a piece of shit.

>>1718346
not really. blade is dulled as soon as it's used, and only gets duller the more you shave. then you let it sit and corrode?
It will only work for you if you use it properly. The main reason cartridges are a meme is because people think you can use them over and over. You can't you still end up shaving with a duller and duller edge. you're better off using a disposable every shave than using cartridges more than twice.

you can literally read about this stuff. Switching to DE is both cheaper and better than cartridges but you are not getting the max benefit if you are re-using blades.
It's literally a DE is you have two fresh blades for one shave if you want to be really good.

>>1718348
no, they cannot come close to a correct shave w/ a blade.
You are probably shaving incorrectly. There's a lot of things to try, suggest chekcing out

https://www.badgerandblade.com/forum/forums/

stay away from Art of Shaving, Art of Manliness, or any nu-male nonsense.

>>1718349
Sorry to clear up I was talking about DE razor blades. I dry them after use so they dont rust, been fine for 6 years using them at least twice.

>>1718349
>blade is dulled as soon as it's used
There are degrees of sharpness. It's not a binary where the options are "Platonic ideal of sharpness" and "butter knife". Good quality blades can be sharper after multiple shaves than a cheap blade fresh from the box.

>then you let it sit and corrode
Not an issue with high quality stainless blades.

>You can't you still end up shaving with a duller and duller edge
I'm really getting the impression that you're an Idealist here. You demonstrably CAN shave multiple times with a single razor blade. Never mind disposable blades, how do you think straight razors work? Those are a thing that exist, and they're preferred by professional barbers who use them far more than a home user would.

I've been considering switching to DE because I'm tired of using the same three cartridges for more than half of a year each time but I'm also concerned about shaving chunks off my face because I have a mild case of pizzaface

>>1718355
> stainless
sorry, you are like...confused. stainless still dulls and corrodes.

you don't seem to understand sharpness and how blades stay sharp. straight razors are a totally different thing than disposables as proper care includes using a strop to maintain the blade between sharpenings. It just sounds like you dont know how to give metal a proper edge.

>>1718231
You can buy them in 5 packs at walmart, but they're not cheap. Like 3 bucks for 5.

>>1718291
Anybody that buys shave cream is a fucking failure.

>>1718249
This

>>1718348
Braun makes the best foil shavers. As far as close, for me it's plenty close enough without carving my face up. It takes a period for your beard/face to adjust to foil shavers, I converted my Dad who used blades for his whole life by sticking with it for a month, after the month he "got it". They're pricey but considering you replace the foil/cutter block once a year they pay for themselves.
I get heat bumps and ingrowns, Aqua Velva fixed that up. Now I use it after every shave.

>>1718117
No
They're not cheaper
They're a pain in the ass
Results aren't as good

>>1718440
>I get heat bumps and ingrowns, Aqua Velva fixed that up. Now I use it after every shave.
So you always smell like the sort of greasy 80's ethnic pimp that Robert DeNiro shoots in Taxi Driver? Yeah, I think I'll take a hard pass on electric and just stick with my DE safety razor. But if it all works for you, keep doing you.

>>1718462
>They're not cheaper
How so? I've spent $40 on DE blades in the last 2 years, and $80 on mach 3 blades. I have to shave every day for work and use a DE razor the vast majority of the time I shave.
>They're a pain in the ass
That's subjective, but I'll give it to you. If you started with cartridge razors, learning to not press into your face can be a bit complicated. My first 3 or so shaves with a DE were a shitshow, but after the first few months, it became almost as quick as cartridge razors. But you'd have to be pretty braindead fucking up shaving with a cartridge blade.
>Results aren't as good
In what sense? I have never noticed any appreciable difference.

I use a mach 3 when traveling, because it is objectively more convenient to shave with in strange locations. But the DE is hands down more affordable and does an equally good job of shaving.

>>1718117
Far better. Use the one in your image with the comb on the edge for beard shaving and one without the comb with a longer handle for leg shaving.

how is oil for shaving? ive heard people recommend a good quality mineral oil for shaving in certain spots of your body and im wondering how good it is for your face.

>>1718489
Not using butter...

what about brush quality

>>1718598
Spend your money on good blades, brush is a brush is a brush

good to know, also im gonna sound like a boomer but do they make chrome blades

>>1718231
I have one of these but I would rather have 1 edwin jagger/similar for $50 than 50 of these. It makes a world of difference.

>>1718291
This stuff is amazing!

>>1718117
If you have 20 minuets to shave every morning then yes. They cost nothing, last forever, and CAN give you the smoothest shave of your life. But if you live in reality and have any value for your free time then they are a meme. Hunt around for some cheap but good cartridges and save yourself the effort. I've had both and after I found a bunch of king of shave 5 blades on close out I spent $40 on a bunch and have literally not spent a cent more in 5 years.

>>1718349
The part about the blade sharpness and usability after one use just isn't true.
See the graph on this page
https://www.refinedshave.com/razor-blade-sharpness-testing/

>>1718800
If it takes you 20 minutes to shave with a safety razor it means you have poor motor skills.

>>1718808
I admit I am exaggerating in how long it takes, but the 5-10 minuets it takes gets tedious when you know you can just grab a disposable and be done in 2.

Im like forty something and just figured out how better it is to have three inches of water in the sink and swish the razor in it to clean and maintain sharpness instead of running water.

>>1718804
> sharpness goes down by at least 10% after first shave for every blade
> sharpness goes up after second shave
> Sounds like a valid test!

regardless, you can get in the weeds if you want, the point is to shave with a sharp edge each time. Not use the same blade for a month. Don't lose the forest for the trees here.

Go ahead and re-use blades all you want, i dont care. My point is if you are having issues like irritation, in-grown hairs, etc, the blades are cheap enough that you can use a new edge every shave for a year for about $20. If you want to split hairs (lol) over shaving 1 or 5 times with an edge, go for it. but if you want to lower irritation and ingrown hairs, don't have for 2 months with the same blade.

I'm fine to get into the weeds about sharpness, i just want anons to get the idea here that the reason why DEs are superior is because the blades are disposable. They were sold so that you didn't have to maintain your straight edge. You are absolutely supposed to be blowing through razors to get the best shaves. 1 shave, 5 shaves, i dont care, but it's so cheap (esp compared to cartridges) that there's no reason to increase the risk of problems.

If anons want to solve shaving problems, they have to do SOMETHING. edgeness of the blade is what will resolve many issues (not all) but shaving with dull edges definitiley causes problems

>>1718819
Not him. Valid that blades may sharpen on a face. Smoothing the rough edge from machines, transportation, temperature variations. Faces are leather. Yeah, idk why these pussyasses can shave a billion times on a blade. I use double edged and my cheap ass can feel the skips and jerks on the third shave. Some people have baby hair.

>>1718825
>I use double edged and my cheap ass can feel the skips and jerks on the third shave. Some people have baby hair.
Yah, this is really it. Once you do it correctly and get used to it, you can feel it. I should have just mentioned this point and not tried to get all facty.

>>1718826
Run the blade backwards up your forearm. It improves the sharpness.

>>1718117
This has nothing to do with /diy/. Are you creating/building/engineering a razor? No. No you are not.
Sage

>>1718240
You gotta be in your 50's. Good to see another actual oldfag in here.

>>1718817
That’ll clog up your sink before you know it

>>1718843
>practically microscopic bits of hair will clog a sink

No. It's all the other shit, like the fags suggesting using oil and butter, that clogs up a sink.

>>1718236
So you can't use these to shave groin and all that?

>>1718836
I shave though, and I do it myself.
Checkmate

>>1718843
I just crack the drain all hair clings to edges. Wipe off with tp. Rigorous swish is so much better for good shaving.
>>1718836
Complied with

>>1718361
Where did he say anything that would give you the idea he doesn’t understand how to give metal a proper edge?
You’re strawmanning

>>1718117
Are they better? Buddy, they are soo much better, cheaper and easier to use. Also looks way better than these plastic shaving kits. Minimal waste that doesn't contain any plastics.

>>1718117
Fucking yes

I really like my q-shave ripoff of the merkur futur. Just dont be an idiot like me and insist on using feather blades despite them constantly cutting my face open. Buy a blade variety pack and get a stiptic for when you make a mistake. Also read up on technique, since theres only a single blade you cant use as much pressure as a cartridge razor, just a lot of little changes that can end up in pain if you ignore them.

>>1718117
They dont really give a better shave unless you take time to actually perform a skincare routine, shave gently and slowly, and the perform aftercare. The only reason to use it over carts is the reduced waste created and the cost of the device itself. You get a better shave with a cart too by performing the same maintenance, its just the safety razor is less forgiving.

>>1718192
Conditioner is bad for your skin.

>>1718117
I prefer them over all other razors. I get a week out of a blade, shaving 2-3 times a week. I'm fortunate to have pretty normal facial hair - not too oily, not too fine, not too coarse, whatever.

I bought 1,000 blades on Amazon earlier this year. I might not have to buy another razor blade for the rest of my life.

>>1718853
You can....

I shave my head as well as my face. I use a safety razor and pic related. Which one depends on how much time I have. Also pic related is the shit! Made the switch from Gillette. The safety razor takes much more time to not get the piss cut out of me. And, especially when experimenting with different blade brands, relatively deep cuts are certainly not out of the question.

A cut on my head or face is fine. A cut on my dick n balls with the possibility of scar tissue? Uh no.

>>1719206
Planning on dying in ten years?

>>1718853
Waxing superior to shaving in groin area.

>>1718140
i don't really mind the razor, i got the first one i found with a long enough handle for my hand.
i use wilkinson sword blades because there's a drug store that sells them near my house. some brands are sharper than others, feathers are sharper than wilkinson and bics are pretty dull, experiment a bit if you want but if you just want to get it done any one will do (unless your beard is too thick, then the duller ones won't cut it, pun intended)

>>1719369
Bull. Shit.
It lasts longer than shaving, but that's the only advantage. Way more painful, way more irritating, way more ingrown hairs.

>>1719364
It's about 20 years, and if I'm still alive by then, I won't be shaving myself.

Yes.
I don't know how all these people are cutting themselves so bad, maybe like my first one or two shaves it wasn't great, but since I only nick myself like twice a year.
>>1718853
you can
I've literally never successful shaved that area ever with any method so I couldn't tell you.
Like once ever 6 months I am dumb enough to try, then start doing it and immediately regret it because it turns out like a porcupine.
Then I say I will never ever do that again then do it again less than a year later.

>>1719889
Woman's razor. Not even kidding. I don't know what is different about them, but I was the same way until I used a razor designed for legs. Maybe the gaps are different since their hair is usually a little finer below the neck but no stubble, no nothing even without soap/cream.

>>1718117
Just use a real razor dude

>>1719889
Use the disposable Bic single blade razors for your groin. I've had the best luck with those.

>>1719865
Interesting. I have almost zero ingrown hairs, and not only wasn't it that bad the first time, it got easier and hurt less thereafter. Also there's no itching when it grows out, that's almost worth it for me.

no.

>>1718231
Yeah, that's a Weishi razor. They're really cheap and consistent but too mild for most non-Asians. Lord and Rapira have ones that are still under $10 and fit for Med-Slav tier beards.

>>1718757
Euro-brand plated zinc feels nice but kinda expensive given it's still mortal. May as well be in for $150 and buy stainless or plated brass at that point, IMO.

>>1718117
I like them. They are cheaper and lest wasteful.
>>1718124
Never go sideways and never rush. You will get faster but do not rush. Try and figure out the natural lines of your face and stick with the grain where you can. I still use Gillette shaving foam.

>>1718227
>wrap your face in a hot, wet towel for a few minutes to soften the hair. That is what barbers do.
Maybe they did that back in the 1930's, but even old barbers use shaving cream these days.

>>1720137
Hot lather is a different animal from shaving cream. Way heavier and higher fat.

>>1718117
Yes way better once you get over the learning curve and stop cutting yourself. I have thick hair and shaving with these gives me a closer longer lasting shave than anything else and you don't have to pay the plastic jew or (((Gilette)))/proctor and gamble))). I buy blades at the dollar tree like >>1718231

>>1718124
Use it like a paintbrush, brush across lightly instead of pressing it in like a dull razor, it's not only sharp but doesnt have that safety bumper under the blade so you can slice really deep if you're not careful. i go with the grain once then against

>>1718117
>shaving
>being this much of an insecure conformist
>even asking about new shaving trends
>what do i do guys pls help me do what everyone else does pls im a scared boy

>>1718414

It's soap, not shave cream you artard.

>>1720231
That's just one edge anon, this post is about DEs.

>>1720163
DE's are literally the reference point for the loss leader model.
> Give 'em the razor, sell 'em the blades
the only way out is a straight edge.

I use the same Mach 5 cartridge for literally months at a time, wet my face with water, have no skin problems and spend no money. What am I doing wrong? Should I buy DE blades from memeshaveclub to feel better about saving 2c per day while spending more time and effort on a basic cleaning procedure? Maybe wipe my ass with a series of moist rocks, too?

>>1721517
> I don't have a problem to solve
great, these posts aren't for you, congrats retard. Must come as a surprise to you but we all have different hair and skin.

>>1721510

>>1718261
According to that list, the Mühle razor I got to protest Gillette is a 9.5/10 on the aggressiveness scale. I’m loading it with Wilkinson Sword blades and I must admit it’s a pretty dangerous shave. But I taught myself straight razor a few years ago so it’s all relative I guess.
Best advice I have is that the lather makes the shave, I was a big fan of Crabtree and Evelyn sandalwood soap until they stopped making it.

>>1718246
you have got to be kidding

>>1721520
>Muh special skin!

>>1721953
No Anon, he's on point. All you hipster idiots that judge your shave based on how long it takes and how much you pay are just that, hipster idiots. Man the fuck up and just get the shit done. Coming here to "talk it over" is the ultimate in acting like a little bitch. God damn.

>>1718435
I have this same shaver and I can't get a close shave help?

>>1721629
>razor I got to protest Gillette
good man

I ran the numbers for /fa/ on this once, tl;dr if you buy disposable razors from (((gilette))) you'll be spending about $20k-$50k over your lifetime, if you get a safety razor you'll have to pay $2k over your lifetime and have something you can pass on to your son, if you buy a straight razor you'll spend $200 over your lifetime and have an heirloom but you'll have to learn an actual real skill.

Again, shaving with a straight razor is a skill, and not an easy one.

>>1718246
>>1721983
>>1718343
>>1718316

You dont have to spend such a long time shave with or without a safety razor. I have a safety razor and I tend to only spend a couple of minutes shaving, if you mean lathering up a soap bar is what takes long, when Im in a rush I have that canned shit to shave with. And sad cunts in this thread talking about how cheap razors dont last, sure the first few times you shave with a new blade its going to feel smooth and wipes your hair of like butter, but after that they are still perfectly usable might add an extra minute since you need to be more deliberate with your shaving, and now I know my facial hair isn't particularly dense like some middle eastern but I cant imagine that even wearing it down so much that you cant reuse the blade after a few shaves and still a pack of 50 is like 2 bucks or something. And if you learn how to properly use one you wont get yourself cut the only time I've cut myself is the first time I used it and for me I no longer get bumps compared to cartridges, I will however get razor burn at times but only cause I am rushing and dont have enough time to lather up enough or something

>>1722123
Lol 20-50k?! Yeah, go ahead and show us the numbers on that without the tl;dr. I'd really like to see what level of political statistician you really are.

>>1718117
YES

Great place to learn to use it is youtube. Tons of shave how to channels. I watched a how to use a safety razor by a guy named nickshaves. Changed my life.

>>1721983
Why are you in this thread if you have nothing of value to add? You buy meme cartridges, no one cares. Congrats.

>>1718117
Do people really still shave like this? Use an electric one and if you've got a wedding or something grab a disposable one from the bag you got over a decade ago
Shave in your car mirror as well so you don't got shit to clean up

The way I see it the world's closest shave and a shitty one differ about 3-5 hours of hair growth so I don't really bother with the whole "shaving culture".
Also, don't shave your genitals, it's not worth it. The time invested is too much and the skin sensitive and loose plus when the hair starts growing back it will snag on your underwear. Trim it instead.

>>1722145
Gillette 5 blade razors cost $27.99 for a three pack at my local Meijer, and more at the nearest Walmart, rounding down that's $25 for three, so $8.34/razorhead. You use one per week (Gillette recommends this), 52 weeks per year (roughly), that's 52•$8.33=$433.16 per year, you'll live to be 100 and start shaving at 14 so that's 86 years, 86•$433.16=$37,251.76, and $20,000≤$37,251.76≤$50,000. This does not account for the handles, which Gillette recomelmends buying new each month, nor for the fact that Gillette intentionally designs their razorblades such that you cannot use older handle models with newer razoblade models.

>inb4 but im a soi guzzling eunuch who didn't start shaving until i was 20
You have to shave for less than 47 years to spend less than $20,000 over your lifetime on disposable razorblades.

Meanwhile, I can buy a 10 pack of safety razor blades for $7, and each lasts me three weeks. That's $0.7 razorblade, and there's 17.333 three week periods, so I spend $12.131(=17.33•$0.7) per year on razorblades, across 86 years is 86•$12.131=$1,043.27.

And, of course, you can buy good quality beginner straight razors for $200 on Amazon.

>>1723064
Note that you can buy Meijer generic 2 blade razors (head and handle are connected and cannotnbe separated) for $5 for a 15 pack and I've stretched them to about 2 weeks, I consider these a non-option akin to "just grow a beard bro" as the damage to your skin and poor shave quality make these just downright unpleasant to use.

>>1718117
they give a closer shave then a modern cartridges (post gillette sensor).
they are more likely to cause nick or burn, you can shave with cartridges very fast and safe.
they are much cheaper than cartridges (if you use foam and don't fall for badger and soap meme)
no selfrespecting man should ever use anything gillette again

>>1718124
buy adjustable butterfly razor and set it to biggest bend (look at the angle of the blade)
the kind of razor in the op pic can be dangerous for beginners depending on aggressiveness (and they are usually aggressive to very aggressive)

>>1723064
Well okay, I respect you typing it out, but you're using a couple of extremes and I think you know it. You're assuming you have to do what the company says, you're completely ignoring the average lifespan of a male, and you're intentionally using a more expensive type of razor. If you switch out the type for what my Google machine tells me, then it's 80¢/razor for disposable double blade razors, and you can get two weeks out of one. That rounds up to $21/year. Average lifespan in America is 78 and change, make it 80 since it'll probably go up in your lifetime. I'd say most guys start shaving regularly at 18, make it 16 to account for the Italians and middle easterners; that's 64 years. That's $1350 lifetime. You want to double it so you can do the one week per razor thing? Cool. That's $2700. You want to double it again to use separate razors for your balls? Okay, you're up to $5400. Still WAY less than your 20-50k.

>>1723096
>no selfrespecting man should ever use anything gillette again
This

>>1721517
do you shave with your lipstick on?

>>1719948
tried that, i'd argue that almost no modern man has a skin suitable for straight razor shave under half an hour.

>>1721517
You could wash it with water instead of wiping

>>1718117
The word better is subjective. Is it cost? Speed? Performance? Honestly the best thing anyone can do to improve their shaving experience is stop using the aerosolized gel / foam shave cream. Get cream or soap and a nice brush.

I keep these DE razors for when I need a really close, super smooth shave. It requires a practiced hand and experience. The product is probably the best shave, at the most affordable price over the long haul. I've got at least half a dozen razors like this, including feather, att, razorok, gilette, merkur, and others. The shave varies dramatically from something like a blackhand razor that is super aggressive to a merkur where you have to pretty much go full retard to get cut.

I keep an electric for travel, and general laziness. The shave is sub par, but passable

I keep cartridges as well, for a quick decent shave, they are good for me. If you get the 3 blade ones, they aren't crazy expensive.

I also keep large and small electric trimmers for beard, head, and body hair type tasks.

And straights, just because. Great shave, maximum effort, maximum danger.

>>1723101
Well considering he went for a median priced blade, the math is pretty solid. Sure you can find the cheapest chink shit to counter him but somebody could also go the other extreme and find the most expensive blades and factor in a thick/fast growing beard.

>>1722123
I use a straight on my head, spent about $15 the last 12 years getting it honed.

>>1718140
I bought the literal $1 razor at Dollar Tree and use Van der Hagen Blades.
Anons have recommended Merkur blades several times as well.

>>1723064
>Meijer
My nigga
Are their DE blades any good? I've only used German steel so far.

>>1721517
>He doesn't know how to use the three seashells

>>1718316
I bought a Mühle R41 ‘Grande’ when Gillette crapped the bed, along with a five-pack of Wilkinson Sword blades. I still have two of the blades left and I shave 3-4 times a week as a middle aged man.
The secret is that you can go a long time if your blades are good quality and your soap and brush are top of their game. I fancy Taylor’s of Old Bond St and Crabtree & Evelyn. My brush was made by a company that went out of business over 20 years ago.

>>1718607
Bullshit. Cheap brushes don’t lather properly, shed nap, and don’t have the flexion strength to lift stubble. I’m in my late 40’s and have had two high quality ($150+) brushes, and the only reason I’ve had two is because my gay flatmate’s nigger boyfriend burned my house down in the late 90’s.

>>1723101
>make it 80 since it'll probably go up in your lifetime
Life expectancy in the US is going down currently. It's not called "degeneracy" for nothing.

>>1718124
Hot water to open up your pores, some baby oil, shave cream or lather, then shave.

>>1723114
Bullshit I shave every second day with a straight razor. As long as you know what you're doing and have a bit of time behind the blade its a great tool

>>1718124
blades are different sharp.
Perhabs you're using an especially sharp kind
either switch for duller ones or try stretching your skin while doing a no pressure pass

Grow a beard faggot.

I use a stainless steel safety razor like the OP has pictured. I have it in the shower and have a mirror in there too. I take a nice hot shower and then at the end lather my neck with a bar of Irish Spring and then shave away. I keep the same $.05 blade in until I can feel it pulling every strand of hair out by the root and then I'll flip it upside down and shave with it some more. When I finally do throw it out I grab another blade out of my 100 pack that I've had for 5 years now and probably still have 75 of them left.

Anyone spending more than that to shave is a cuck.

>>1718124
As others have said, and cut at a right angle.

>>1724050
Listen to this man, stop feeding the razor jew.

>>1723794

>Feather: They'll cut your face clean off.

>>1718117
Yes. Cheap as heck too.

>>1724050
Ok, boomer

>>1724200
Found the ZOOMER who can't grow a beard, too much S.O.Y

>>1723410
Median priced blade? For northern Canada/Alaska in the winter? I've been googling for five minutes and I can't find Gillette disposable razors for as much as half of what he quoted. How is that solid math? It's bullshit is what it is, and Anon was right to call him out. Fucking shills.

>>1724204
your the penny scraping boomer
also, the s'oyface is literally a beard wearing male
how did that go over your head, guess you really are a boomer

>>1724207
This is you in the gillette commercial zoomer.

>>1718124
I literally don't know what to say because I just started using them one day after shaving with a modern razor and it was fine.

>tfw you can shave against the grain and without lather or even wetting your neck just fine with one of these.

Disappointed that everyone's arguing it's penny pinching and not thinking about the cartridge that you're throwing into landfill. DE blades can give a closer shave so you're shaving less, and can also be recycled more easily.

>>1718249
i shave with the same clippers i use on my hair, gf likes the constant 5:00 shadow

>>1718117
they're certainly cheaper than cartridges

>>1718117
Finding my grand grand father's Gillette was the best thing that happened to my face

>>1718117
i use a merkur razor, feather blades, and whatever shave soap is cheap. i buy blades and soap like once a year. i spend MAYBE ten bucks a year on shaving supplies. works great.

>>1718236
>not shaving your scrote and gooch with a safety razor

What are you a fucking pleb?

>>1718117
before I was able to grow a beard, safety razor was the way to go. $10 worth of blades lasted me 3 years

>>1724877
Second that

Yes

>swirly patches of hair at the bottom of my neck line
How the fuck do I shave these bastards, not just with a safety razor but with fucking anything

I've got 2 whorls, and the hairs in the whorls lie super flat against my skin as well as pointing in a variety of random directions. Shaving with a safety razor results in half of them not getting shaved while the other half cut my skin up, shaving with a disposable is just a big nope, and shaving with an electric razor makes it feel like all the hairs are getting plucked out with tweezers at the same time, while some of the flat hairs just stubbornly avoid trimming.

How the fuck do I deal with these whorls, short of getting all the hair permanently removed with a laser? I'm 28 and have been shaving since I was a teenager, this shit's driving me crazy. The rest of my facial hair is no problem and I can end up getting my face smooth as a baby's bottom, but my neckline always looks like a mess of tiny nicks and uncut hairs.

>>1725493
I would suggest to ruffle it as much as you can to get the hairs standing up, take clippers (or moustache trimmers) to them to get them shorter. then try the safety razor? electric razor is probably best though

>>1725493
change directions to go against the hair, use sharp blade and be gentle.

>Merkur - everybody's first safety razor
>Parker butterfly - solid af
>Weishi - superior Nippon but does get clogged with hair

>>1718124
a good one goes miles I've never had problems with my merkur, but angle + a good lather is everything

I got a shit $1 one recently from a family member and it left me bleeding everywhere

>>1718246
This exactly. My new job required me to shave or maintain a beard. So I thought I'd try a double edge with feather blades cut the shit out of my face tried other blades. Finally got the shaving down to where I could get a close cut nice shave without cutting my face up. But it took like 10 fucking minutes every morning. So I got the kirkland razors I can literally just lather my face with bar soap. (shaving cream is as big of a rip of as college text books). I can shave my whole face with a very close shave in like 2 minutes. Recent started growing a beard gonna get into the whole straight edge game again since all I have to do is minor upkeep.

>>1723165
good post

>>1718234
>single-blade razor for pubes
did you just

>>1718440
That stuff makes you smell like a greasy cocksucker. Try Clubman Pinaud it makes womens panties drop from fucking mars.
Also, add a bunch of asprin pills to it and let them dissolve this will help with razor burn and all that stuff.

>>1726174
Multiple-blade razors are a Jewish scheme to take your money, they provide no advantage.

>>1718117
yes

>>1726758
but they are called safety razors for a reason........

Switching to a straight razor was the best I've ever done when it comes to shaving. I don't even need to wet my face at all.

Safety razors always got stuck in my beard, regardless of how often I shaved, and lathering.

>>1718804
Why did the Feather blade increase in sharpness with use?

>>1727010
yes

How is this thread /diy/? Isn't shaving yourself the standard? Is sahving /diy/? OP isn't asking about how to make his own razor blades or at least sharpening them instead of taking them to the knife sharpener.

Do we need threads about hand soap next because people don't think it's normals to wash one's own hands anymore?

Why are there 160 replies already? Seriously?

>>1727376

>implying you go to /v/ to talk about videogames.

>>1727422
My autism is triggered, don't you real world me!

I switched to using a DE a few months ago and prefer it to cartridge razors

My only question is do you have to buy specific blades to fit a safety razor or are they all a standard fit?

>>1723096
>if you use foam
>selfrespecting man
bruh. literally paying money for a can of mostly air

>>1727458
All standard as far as I ever know. You can't use single edge though.

Also, single edge from hardware store will mess up your face. They are not as sharp as those meant for shaving.

>>1727376
I would like to hear shaving tips from my brethren. Some people are different. You don't know what it's like to have indestructible man hair.

>>1718117
I have seizures. What are the odds one of these cuts me fatally?

>>1728054
Not much worse than a normal cartridge razor. Only a little tiny piece of blade sticks out, you cant cut deeply unless you seize up while changing the blade

>>1723114
I can unironically do a single pass in maybe 3 minutes. I hand build a lather and do multiple passes because I enjoy it and have time, but the actual shaving can be fast once you stop sucking at it and have memorized your passes

>>1726174
I shaved my pubes with a straight razor once before realizing I could just use hair clippers for nearly as good a job

>>1718124
People aren't mentioning the practice of GRAIN REDUCTION.
Wet shaving usually involves multiple shaves. Soap/prep, shave with the grain, re-soap, shave PERPENDICULAR to the grain, re-soap, shave against the grain.
Shaving against the grain can be troublesome on your neck, so just experiment down there.
Also, experiment with pressures and angles. That'll change your shave significantly.
Also, consider your blades. I used to get a Russian brand called "Rapira," but I found out that it's worth it to dish out significantly more (still cheap) for some Feather blades.

>>1718231
>www.artofmanliness.com
Listen here kid
>be me
>Fuck, I'm not paying gillete 30€ for shaving change parts
>find my grandfathers razor on his stuff (he passed away).
>shave
>Mexican_narco_saving.webm
>fuck it, I ain't gettin back to gillete
>keep improving
and that's how I teached myself how to shave properly with a thing older than myself

>>1728242
>tfw you found grandpa's razors at the bottom of the tool chest but all three are chipped and rusted badly.

>>1718117
Yes.
>cheap
>can be fast or perfect
>lasts forever
For a fast shave, just go with the grain once.
For a perfect shave go 90° to the grain after that.
>>1718246
>10 minutes
I only take that long when I`m not at all in a hurry and aim for perfection.
Most of that is letting my hair get softened to be shaved.
I can`t match the results with anything else though.

tried one a few times, it did ok but to get the same smoothness I had to do 3 passes, a disposable razor can do up to 6 passes in one since it's got up to 6 blades. I'm happy with the disposables

>>1728242
>no cool shaving set to inherit
>had to assemble a set off different corners of the internet
feelsbad, but was well worth it

>>1728284
Hey at least your kids will have something to inherit
Gotta start somewhere

>>1728373
>my kids

>>1718117
They're awesome. I hated shaving with fucking Gilette so much that I went electric, but that sucks too. So I switched to safety razor and it's awesome! I spent about £25 on handle, blades, soap and brush from Amazon. Best money I've ever spent. Wish I'd known about this when I started shaving as I'd have saved thousands of pounds. Soap lasts forever and I get through a blade a week which works out at 50p/week or something ridiculous like that.

Also I kind of actually look forward to shaving now even though that seems slightly ridiculous. It's awesome. Do it!

>>1724415
Definitely feels good not to be putting empty cans in the bin. Imagine how much harder this environmental angle would be getting pushed if it weren't for Gilette etc.

>>1728150
>STRAIGHT RAZOR
i give up

>>1728277
unless the chips are severe, they can be restored. do you have pictures?

>>1718117
depends on your skin desu

>>1729416
Nah. I left them at my dads. The one chip I remember was pretty huge. Like 1/8" radius semicircle starting at thebedge

>>1726176
Does this come with a monocle?

>>1729452
Found my grandfather's old safety razor and shaving brush. Tried shaving with them for years but even under ideal conditions (3-4 days unshaven, good lather, after hot shower etc.) I could never get a completely smooth shave without nicking myself; changed multiple razors (harsher/gentler ones) and many many different blade types to no avail - could never get as good, quick or comfortable as I did with the cheap disposable plastic razors, so I went back. Still use the brush though, in fact I haven't used canned shaving foam/gel in years, I love shaving soaps and use them almost daily.

>>1718134
I use baby oil. Cheap and easily able to to see missed facial hair.

>>1718134
Coconut oil.

>>1718117
I spent 10£ on blades and I estimate that they will last me at least 20 years.

>>1731066
enjoy the cancer

>>1718249
Your hair is getting ripped and raped

I buy the yellow bag of BIC razors for 2$, they are single blade and the best Ive ever used. I get around 5 shaves out of each razor and dont even have to use shave cream, i just shave in the shower.


I wasted years and much money on the mach3 shit.

>>1718249
>I can shave anywhere I want.
even under your armpits?
thats only for girls

>bald
>use a braun serie 9 for face and scalp
>result is good but it take 20 minutes
>huge cleaning and maintenance
>blade swap once a year cost 50€
What is the best to shave my head?

>>1718246
/thread
Facial hair and anything activity regarding is of no virtue at all. Removing it or growing it is not, has never been and should not be a matter of anyone's concern.

>>1735249
>I wasted years and much money on the mach3 shit.
I used Fusion for a couple of years.
fuck
that
shit!

fuck Gillette too... woke pieces of shit will never get another penny from me.

>>1718117
Yes i im using it years ago. Obviously is wayyy cheaper.
But i did it because of plastic. I literaly waste kilograms of plastic/year on disposable razors.
Best blade y found is schick.

>>1718242
What a sissy

>>1718800
20 minutes. Did you have hands or a piece of shit insted of it tooks me less tan a minute. Every fucking day.

>>1718800
I can shave in about five minutes with pic related.

Spent $25 on it eight years ago; took me a week to get it right, and in a few months I was shaving with it every morning. Got a brush at CVS for $5, and got some Williams soap on sale, like three cakes for $7, and I"m still using the first one.

So, under 40 bucks and an old mug, and I'll never spend another dollar shaving, and I don't spend forever doing it. Super easy, very decent shave, cheap as dirt.

>>1736935
How do you sharpen it?

these are so much nicer to use, cheaper, and create a lot less waste than cartridge ones.

>>1737198
The thick spine acts as an angle guide.

>>1718140
Polsilver Russian exports are amazingly sharp.

>>1736409
I shave my head with a lightweight aluminum safety razor and feather blades. I like the lightweight as its easy to control with either hand. I use conditioner on my head prior to getting in the shower. Let the steam make the conditioner slick and shave away.

Yep, but depose of the blades properly in a blade container and keep away from kids as its ultra thin shape blades will fuck up kids and bin men

>>1738024
>not just tossing them behind the medicine cabinet into the wall

>>1718117
My Great-Grand and Grand Fathers would "hone" the blades on the rim of a glass cup. If you want to go super thrifty this might help.

>>1718117
Depends on your skin. They are for me.

>>1738300

growing up in Detroit our house had one of them blade slot is the medicine chest

I think there was a TV commercial for razors where a guy puts a blade in the slot and the house collapses

now I just my used blades in the blade container in the slot in the back

>>1718246
The reason i switched to de razors is because these triple bladed fucks always left my neck looking like i shaved with a cheese grater.