/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>be 2nd year spark apprentice
>know how to make up panels, pull wire, wire up switches + outlets + photocells + outdoor A/C units, light fixtures, bend pipe (and actually bend pipe well), run conduit, and more shit i'm probably forgetting or maybe not
>dont complain when I have to sweep dirt in 100F heat outside, or haul old fluorescent light fixtures all day, or lift spools of #8 wire, or dig trenches for underground work, because hard labor is also part of learning the technical skills of the trade
If you saw me in real life youd probably think I have low test yet i'm still able to put up with it more than you can. What's your trade/excuse?

>>1632419
You're probably supposed to be getting done with the manual labor in half the time that you are, then once you show that you aren't lazy and slow they'll show you the technical stuff.

>>1632423
I don't mind the manual labour but my issue is, it's all im doing but then I'm expected to be a tradie when it suits them.

>>1632425
The current worksite is only manual labour. I've spoken with management before about being put with a team I've worked with in the past where I made huge improvements but it gets ignored.

>>1632428
What trade though

General contractor/carpenters apprentice here

Deal with it

>>1632429
Metal roofing

>>1632423
>If you saw me in real life youd probably think I have low test yet i'm still able to put up with it more than you can.
But can you crush pussy? Didnt think so

>>1632435
Uhhh

I could be wrong but thats not really a trade and if it is its more of a low-tier trade that can get outsourced to illegals and meth users (not talking shit just my observation). Even being an HVAC/tinner apprentice would be preferable. Look into your areas sheetmetal workers union and see if they have any apprentice programs. Or move to a princess trade like electrical.

>>1632438
I crush one chubby girl's pusy and ass on the regular but i'm also the bull for a married couple whomst I met on doublelist and I fuck the wife (+ cum in her raw) while the husband watches. He doesnt even touch himself idk what his deal is but once her and I start the heavy petting I just forget hes even in the room. They pay for the room, I just show up to fuck her then I leave.
>tl;dr: I guess not

>>1632441
That's fucked cunt

>>1632450
Not all of us can be Chad so I gotta take it when I can get it

>>1632435
there is a lot of labor to that trade and not a lot of skill to be found.. most of those guys I have met are boarder line braindead

>>1632423
>cost of living never been higher
>old boomers laughing their asses off at you working harder than they did during the apprenticeships also while they enjoyed a better standard of living at the time
>brainwashed into false bravado of 'me work hard me good'
>have to grind decades to pay off your shitty box home in a Subdivison and your Truck while they were able to pay it off in a few years worth of work+OT
>old boomers do the easy jobs for wages you'll never reach due to new contacts and weakening unions

Keep at it. Eventually you'll grow up a bit, and that 'me work hard me good' will wear off, and you'll realize working with your head's better since you're being exploited for your labor. And doing the bare minimum is better in the long run until you get your own setup going, then you can work like a bastard. 'Til then you're just lining boomers pockets(your boss, your old coworkers doing the gravy while you get the shit).

>>1632451
Oh so true. I'm fucked I got 49 grand burnt. Fuck. Nothing worrkedb out. I'm just venting. But fuck it all.

>>1632419
They’re probably doing it to you because you’re a whiney bitch and don’t deserve the good jobs.

>>1632487
I dont know what union you're talking about but the only differences in wage scale for my trade in my district/local vary based on whether or not the project budget is more than $64k as well as the job being federal/state/local gvt.

Not all of us can get handed full-ride scholarships and big-brain our ways into paid internships with KPMG making $500k/hr for shitposting on 4chan in between doing actual work for 2h a day

Once I get my ticket in 3-4 years from now I'm probably going to just try and go back to college for something that a dumbass low-IQ non-chad non-badass slave caste loser like myself can do or i'll just truck around the country working electrical in between stints of camping and hiking.

>tl;dr: not all of us can be super lucky big-brain Chads like you who make $500k/hr for getting gud grades in college and existing

>>1632487
this

>>1632504
see
>>1632495

>>1632487
Glow nuts are a great idea. No NCV tester needed to tell when a circuit is hot. Why don’t more people use these?

>>1632435
Metal roofing. Technical stuff.... you must be thinking of another trade

>>1632450

>>1632419
>Employers wonder why I'm not picking up technical skills
>>1632435
>Metal roofing
well there's your answer

>>1634475
Where's chocolate bear?

>>1632419

The technical skills are easy as fuck, it's the labor part that sucks. Anyone can draw a wiring diagram for an outlet, actually sticking your hand into a wall, bending the conduit correctly and snaking the wire is another deal.

Guess what, when you finally get in all the way you're going to be spending all your time doing the technical stuff regardless if you're good at it or not. Get ready.

>>1632423
I finished the schooling but closest I get to anything in the trade is a 'helper' position with Mexicans that can barely speak English or do basic math.
I wouldn't mind the labor if I knew I'd actually be learning something and the people around me were actually smarter than me

>>1632435
Ag metal or something else. If ag metal literally all they do is drive screws and squirt caulk. If standing seam they also bend tabs. It's not complicated.

>>1636351
Pro tip: Juan isn't a citizen. Look for clearance work, assuming you're not retarded. Clearance work is a glimpse into a world without illegal parasites.

>>1632419
I have a 3rd year who is basically retarded or really hung over, sometimes still drunk from the night before so we leave him as labor and parts bitch... is this you?

>>1636376
Sadly not much work there or people that give a shit

>>1636351
>I finished the schooling
>>still an apprentice
You fucked up. Lemme guess, you went to some for-profit trade school then went to work for a shop after that?

>>1632451
I mean, you cuck a guy right in front of him and breed his wife. That's bretty chad.

>>1636392
Community college in a small town, couldn't find a job so I moved with my family to a larger city.
Yeah I fucked up not getting an in with a job before schooling but I needed to do something at the time

>>1632428
>I've spoken with management before about being put with a team I've worked with in the past


Waah
Why won't you let me work with my friends?

>>1636421

lol this. going to the higher ups only makes it worse OP. they genuinely could not care less, and saying anything other than "ok" makes them dislike you and think you're a whiny little fag

>>1636494
> saying anything other than "ok" makes them dislike you and think you're a whiny little fag
That pretty much sums up trades work. I've learned if you don't like the company and the work they're giving you, leave. You're replaceable and you have to learn to be an asset so you get some pull because everyone is so stuck in their backwards thinking nothing is gonna change.

>>1632487
>while they were able to pay it off in a few years worth of work+OT
Is this really what zoomers and millenials believe? Wow, you guys are gullible. Wanna buy a bridge?

>being such a moron that you're not working 3 days a week in a cushy state job and doing your hobbies the other 4
I get paid $40/h to work a braindead desk job then do blacksmithing on Me time

>>1632419
you're probably having to work with old boomers, the first 6 months in the trade I more or less had to do manual labor, try to get a few years under your belt and find another contractor to work for, even when you do pick up technical skills though you're still going to have to do shit work, it's apart of the gig

>>1632428
>I've spoken with management before about being put with a team I've worked with in the past where I made huge improvements but it gets ignored.

you done fucked up, the boomers now are going to keep you doing manual labor for complaining