/diy/ - Do It Yourself

They're not as sturdy as the red/teal/yellow guys, but I like them a lot. They're popular with home owners, so you find them essentially brand new on Craigslist and Letgo for dirt cheap. I got the impact wrench, a drill, a jigsaw, a grinder, an impact driver and a battery and charger for $85 from some lady whose husband had passed. The impact wrench alone sells for ~$130.
Have since bought circular and reciprocating saw for under $20 each. Just need the oscillating tool and I'm pretty much set.
They're nice, I can beat the fuck out of them without worrying, and replacement tools are cheap and plentiful now that you're locked into their batteries.

>>1618526
Ryobi's work just fine for light-duty work, but if you use the crap out of your tools like most professionals trying to get a job done as fast and efficiently as possible, Ryobi end up costing much more due to failures.

>>1618543
+1 sir
for most light work at home they are fine.

>>1618526
At work I couldn't care less about what I use unless its some Harbor freight BS. At home however I always buy Kobalt.

Cant explain why, but i have never had an issue with any of their products, battery life is good, and I like the color.

Had a ryobi bandsaw once and didnt much like it, probably why i havent ever bought more of their tools

>>1618526
>work better than your milwaukees, dewalts, makitas

Objectively false. Well worth their price though (and best color) especially when you can find deals; my suite of greens has run me ~$30/tool.

>>1618526
It's sad to think people are this financially irresponsible they wont buy a Ryobi.

What's financially irresponsible is to buy a tool you won't use.

>>1618621
Or buying a tool you don't know how to operate safely. A cheap Ryobi circular saw can be a one-way ticket to the hospital used by a novice.

>>1618676
I like how cutting your own fingers with a Ryobi circular saw is financially irresponsible. With a Milwaukee circular saw, you're fingerless, but you have a nice tool!

Thoughts on Rigid? I got a Rigid drill a few months ago and the battery life is insane
I've been fixing up my new house, using it 2-3 times a week, medium-heavy use each time. Still haven't charged the battery.

>>1618711
>Ridgid*
Better than Ryobi, good for the money when you catch the sales, but their tool lineup isn’t anywhere close to the more pro brands like DeWalt-Makita-Milwaukee. For a homeowner though, the quality of the tools and the selection is more than you need.

Iv uses everthing from ryobi to festool and everything seems to have its pros and cons. I love my ryobi cordless brad nailer but their saws and drills are a joke for real construction work. Makitas impact driver is a pleasure to use but unless you buy the two batery model their saw sucks dewalt tools are all pretty midrange. About the same as ridged. Festool are great as long as you use them for what they are designed for. Milwaukee is pretty solidly above average. So lets end these tool threads and people just buy what works best for them.

Whats the consensus on Makita vs DeWalt vs Milwaukee? Are there any others that belong in that category? Is there anything better?

>>1618741
Blue Bosch is up there. They’re all close, cover your eyes and pick one. Their main tools are all very competitive. If you work in a specialty trade, maybe one brand offers tools that the other doesn’t. Milwaukee has the best selection of mechanic’s tools. DeWalt has the new Flexvolt for a cordless miter saw and compressor, Makita (and now DeWalt) have the subcompact 18v tools which are popular with a lot of people.

>>1618741
The process for me was
>no stores near me sell makita
>home depot really far away so no ryobi or ridgid
>wanted higher end so I dropped porter cable/hitachi/black decker etc etc
>huge displays of dewalt and milwaukee at my favorite hardware store

I had a really tough time deciding between Dewalt and Milwaukee, they seem to have comparable tools at comparable prices.
I had display units of both sets sitting next to each other.

I bought the Milwaukee because the charger does both 18v and 12v, so I can (in theory) find a deal on batteries or on bare tools and get into their 12v line cheaper and easier.

>>1618702
I wasn't referencing being a complete moron, just a novice. Obviously kickback is the more prevalent injury for a circular saw in inexperienced hands.

>>1618756
Also if you're out for extended periods in colder climates, the Milwaukee 12v batteries power their heated jackets.

>>1618741
Milwaukee have done a fine marketing job to make sure their tools are used by tradesman. They've more or less decorated the local union hall with all their tools, and you'll see Milwaukee everywhere. They're also come out with the most trade specific tools I've seen.

On the jobsite, we use a number of brushed (older) Dewalts, and newer Milwaukees.

AFAIK, Dewalts are owned by Stanley B&D, whereas Milwaukee's the principal owners are German executive, then the rest Hong Kongers, as well as the person who founded the DeWalt brand. Makitas are their own independent Japanese brand. Some guys decide based on country of origin, so that means Dewalt.

I wouldn't purchase any of the top of the line brands unless I was a contractor. Any of their mid tier or older gen stuff works well. The problem is that their batteries cost more.

Impact-Driver: Milwaukee, then Dewalt, then Makita
Drill-Driver: Dewalt, then Makita, then Milwaukee
Angle Grinder: Metabo, Dewalt, Makita,

>>1618543
This basically
I use Ryobi to finish but you'd never drill 44 tgi at 7/8 3 times to run wire with a ryobi
DeWalt handles it no prob though

IMO the biggest advantage of Ryobi over every other power tool brand is the variety of equipment that they make other than standard power tools. Hilti or Makita might make nicer drills or saws but Ryobi's lineup of lights, radios, outdoor power tools, plumbing equipment and exotic tools like mold foggers, bolt cutters and soldering irons running off of the same 18 volt batteries cant be beat. the only reason you would ever want to go for another one of the cheaper Homeowner-focused brands out there (Porter Cable, Black and Decker, etc) is if you have no access to Home Depots and just need something to drill holes quickly.

You're a fucking dimwit. Ryobi make shit that wouldn't last a pro a full work day.

I laugh at imbeciles who use their tools once a month and think they know what they are talking about.

>>1619164
Porter Cable drills and saws are about on par with Ryobi, I have even heard a few people say their drills and impacts are nicer. The cheapest Ryobi is close to Black & Decker, B&D being the cordless drill your lesbian aunt uses.

Ryobi does have the best tool lineup for a cheap brand though. The other homeowner/ DIY tier brands mostly only offer the main drills and saws. B&D does have some 20V yard tools though, I guess that would be good for your lesbian aunt who likes trim bushes.

>>1619164
Most (maybe all) Ryobi tools are not battery locked, so it's not like you can't run them with whatever other brand's battery and an adapter.

>>1618723
Looks like you dropped that one on the floor and got it all dirty. I suggest an overnight soak in a 90/10 water/vinegar solution.

>>1619262
The small one? I know, but it’s so goddamn useful so sometimes when I’m showing it to all of my friends and telling them how great it is, I get it a little greasy.

I have barely touched the 18V drill and impact driver since I got them for Xmas because the 12V tools do everything I have needed a drill or 1/4” impact for so far. The 18V will get some jobs done outside with the concrete exterior walls, but the 12V has been punching <3/8” holes in metal just fine.

>>1618723
>>Ridgid*
whoops, thanks. I have the 2 drills on the right of that pic. Have been very happy with both.

>>1618756
Used to have a DeWalt drill, wasn't anything special. Battery life was ass compared to the Ryobis at this little shop space I used to go to, and the drills at the shop were pretty heavily abused.
YMMV, of course. That was years ago and I'm sure things have changed.

>>1618741
Dewalt makes a wide variety of decent mid level tools. Milwaukee is heavy in electrical/hvac. Makita is mostly carpentry along with heavy duty industrial tools.

>>1619321
The one on the right of that pic is the 1/2” impact wrench, not the regular drill. The hammer drill seems real solid too. Haven’t even played with it much but kinda blows my mind how powerful those little brushless motors are compared to my old brushed NiCd DeWalt.

I have all Milwaukee. It's very good but has a lot of trigger issues. I am probably going to get a different brand eventually but, it won't be a fair comparrison because it will be years in tech apart.

>>1619330
Ah fuck, you're right. They definitely have a drill in the same profile though, I have one laying at work somewhere. Honestly, to me it's just "the big drill" and "the normal drill." If you think that's bad, you should see the researchers I work for.

>>1619338
I used to wonder why anybody would really need an impact driver when a drill does the same thing, but then I got a little older and used one and I haven’t driven a fastener with a drill in forever. If you have the brushless impact driver though, be careful without knowing the power. It removes 100ft/lb lug nuts and will rape regular sized screws and crappy bits if you don’t expect it coming.

>>1619341
It's handy to have an intentionally weaker 3/8" drive impact driver around for this reason.

>>1618526

whatever helps you sleep at night. kind of funny you never see people who buy real power tools making threads trying to convince themselves they made the right choice

was the nagging self-doubt worth saving 50$?

>>1619395
I pretty much use my 18v 1/4” driver as a 3/8” impact wrench because of the power. Even if you turn the speed down, it still has that fairly heavy hammer and spring. So you can slow it down but each individual impact is fairly hard for 1/4” duty. The 12v has taken over typical 1/4” tasks.

>>1618526
Ryobi is expensive af tho, more than some brands you listed too

>>1619534
Imagine taking the bait that hard. AND using a trip while doing it. Ur a fucking retard

>>1618526

> I got the impact wrench, a drill, a jigsaw, a grinder, an impact driver and a battery and charger for $85 from some lady whose husband had passed.

How is she supposed to do home maintenance and improvement now?

>>1619616
Nah it’s much cheaper.

>>1619619
I still regret not buying more from the lady with the bench grinder. I would’ve snagged like all the big stuff if I wasn’t taking the GF to Disney like a week later

>>1619621
>Going to Disney
Is your GF like 10 years old?

>>1619825
This is 4 Chan
B is just round the corner

>>1619825
Maybe. At least I have one. Also if you have ever been to any of the parks, especially outside of Magic Kingdom, it’s tons of 20-something couples. I sort of hate Disney, but some of the stuff at the parks can be entertaining.

i have that OP pic ryobi kit, as well as a weedwacker and leaf blower

for the price i think they're pretty solid and the 18v lion batteries last much much longer than my 20v dewalts

>>1618526
ryobi works pretty good but i don't think they'd last long in a workshop. they're cheap for a reason. the batteries seem pretty solid though

>>1619618

forget to add "nice bait though" one time and sure enough the angry tards come screaming full reee ahead

I had ni-cad Ryobi drill & driver. 14V [?]. Nice, smooth action. ergonomic. 2nd hand green ni-cad makita was nicer.
I do a lot of small stuff, white 10V Makita dri;; & impact pleasant to use. 18V DeWalt for heavier stuff, obviously more powerful, but not as smooth.

If I had the cash and/or need for multiple tools, I would seriously consider Ryobi+1, based on previous use and universal batteries

>>1618783

So paying more for a tool is +2 XP?

>>1620406
You should get on some M12 stuff when the sales are going on. If you’re in the US, you can often get the drill and impact set w/ 2 batteries for $100, or that set plus another tool (Hackzall, oscillating tool, ratchet) for $150, or the set plus 2 tools for $200. Those 12V sets are as powerful as old NiCd 18v tools, and the M12 Fuel are as powerful as cheaper 18v Li-Ion tools. Those are great for around the house projects because you never really need a big super powerful hammer drill with a 6.0Ah battery for home use.

Ryobi released more cool shit with the 18v line though. They have a soldering iron now as well as this rotary tool (pic related). Some of the 12V lines have rotary tools but not with the flexi shaft like this.

>>1620768
>you never really need a big super powerful hammer drill with a 6.0Ah battery for home use.
Most bongs live in houses with brick walls, they will find a use for a hammer drill, although a 6Ah battery might be overkill to put up a few shelves.

>>1620841
If you live in a brick house, that’s different. I have concrete exterior walls too so that was a big factor when buying my last drill.

M12 Fuel one is a hammer drill though.

Those new compact 18v setups from Makita and DeWalt are neat too.

>>1620752
He was saying the financial bar to entry on some of these tools makes people buy them without having an idea how to use them. It's not an argument against cheap dangerous tools, but an argument against retards buying them for a job with no knowledge of how to use them.

>>1620893
battery powered hammer drills like the one in your pic suck on actual concrete though... they work pretty good on brick for reds and threads or tapcons. For anything more you should just get a corded bosch bulldog, or some of the higher end battery powered hammer drill specific can handle lots of concrete work... good rule of thumb is you need something that requires an SDS plus bit will work for a day of drilling. The hammer drill you posted might do a few holes here and there in concrete but you are going to frustrate yourself if its much more than that.

>>1620948
and SDS Rotary Hammer is a completely different tool than a hammer drill, for putting a few small holes in a brick wall a cordless drill will do the job, if you need to put large holes in concrete walls on a regular basis you will already know what tool is needed to do the job.

I think Milwankiee is the kang. At least compared to Misquita, DeWanger, Rigkid. Hilti is probably better maybe but I ain't spending that dough on wan.

We have them at work and abuse them and they keep on keeping on. Those other brands are good (better than ryobi) but just don't give out the jizzum like Milwankiees. Plus they gots the best batteries on the markita.

>>1620959
fuck off AvE

>>1620948
I’m talking about sinking some anchors in to hang a plant or light, not demolishing a building. The little hammer drill will actually get you somewhere if you have to drill a 3/8” hole into an exterior wall.

>>1620959
See >>1621027

And I’m sure Hilti has nice plastic like AvE says, but Milwaukee and all of the other brushless contractor grade tools beat the numbers on Hilti drills and the like by miles. I mean 200ft-lbs of torque out of a 1/4” impact driver is absurd, but Hilti doesn’t come close.

I’m not using the tools in some assembly plant though so I can’t say if the fleet service is worth the high price, but people seem to love red and yellow and teal in the shop, blue as well.

FWIW I kinda want one of those 12V (or 14V?) Hilti impact drivers just to have one. They’re not that expensive and it would be fun to shitpost with my Hilti and Knipex and Newports in every pic of a stripped bolt.

>>1620953
cool im glad you agree with me

>>1621027
yeah im not advocating it would do anything less than a few holes... I just wouldnt want to waste my time with it if it was more than 2-3... like say I needed to mount a few electrical boxes and run some conduit would be really annoying with a little shitty milwaukee like the post I originally replied to... here is the thing, I get a new 1 every 2 years, and refurb my bulldog once a year too.

>>1621034
I don’t think the guy trying to decide between a cheap Ryobi and a $100 M12 set should be doing all of the work you mentioned.

>>1621037
yeah, I dont think he should be wasting his money either.

>>1621051
Even if you don’t /diy/ worth a damn, you gotta have a basic drill. I made sure my older sister and little brother both have drills because you never know when a nail won’t cut the job.

And I would rather take a 12V drill from a good brand over a cheap ass 18V any day considering the pricing is pretty close.

Fwiw I think B&D 20V 2.0Ah Lithiums are $50-$80 most places and you can get a 2pk of M12 1.5’s on Amazon for like $40 all day.

>>1618526
I bought a ryobi drill and 1/2 and 3/8 impact set a few years ago, and killed it within 3 months. I usually get at least a year out of my makitas.

Also, ryobi doesn't offer a real compact set like milwaukee's m12 series. As much as I love makita, even their 12v subcompact line doesn't quite meet up to milwaukee's

>>1621181
Are you a tradie? If so wtf are you doing buying Ryobi?

>>1618526
I have ptsd from Ryobi tools because as a kid I used to use my dads work tools on my projects and they only lasted 10 minutes before the batteries died. But a trusted brand is the way for me like Milwaukee, it has a 5 year warranty as well. So If anything happens which it has for me on my drill, impact, sawzall. I am good to go. Just drop it off at certified shop and theyll fix it. They even sent me a new impact one time because they couldnt fix it.

>>1621635
I bought into the meme.

>>1620948
>anything more you should just get a corded bosch bulldog,

lol no.
I had one of those burn out, needed a hammer drill quick, went to Harbor Freight and they had their house brand that looked IDENTICAL to the Bosch, save the color of the plastic.

I bought the HF drill, then took it and the Bosch apart, they were the exact same fucking drill inside, I put the Harbor Freight guts into the Bosch case, mainly cuz I hated the orange plastic of the HF case.

That Frankenstein has since been stolen, but the lesson is that Bosch and HF are probably getting their tools made in the same Chink factory so save the money and buy a HF tool.

>>1621181
Milwaukee is the ONLY company that has a real 12V lineup.

>>1621702
I think I’m close with DeWalt, charging up 4 old NiCd batteries and the fucking sawzall won’t even take out some thick roots.

I’m sure the new stuff is miles ahead just because the Masterforce 1.5Ah was way better despite feeling like a cheaper tool.

>>1621741
That’s fucked up. How much more does the Bosch model cost? You’re taking a hit on the warranty though.

>>1618526
If it is new then I'm only willing to buy made in the USA

>>1621779
Soooo the overpriced DeWalt made by Jose?

>tfw the American made DeWalts are going to be cheaper than Mexican made when Papa Trump gets done.

>>1621784
>made by Jose
which is why I buy old and used

>>1621786
How old? There’s not many options if you don’t want to drag extension cords or air lines behind you.

>tfw hurricane season started and Target had 3750W generators for like $260 including tax
Damn I wanted to buy one as a backup. Throw that bitch in the back of my car and drop a 30gal compressor and the world is my oyster.

>>1618526
My hilti will last decades

>>1621786
Which is why we know you arent serious about your work.
NEETS and Grandpa can sit around and wait, buy tools when they happen across them. Can spend all that time and energy lugging around giant heavy shit tethered to the wall instead of actually getting work done.

Im glad you have principals though. A lowly factory worker in the USA is still a USA job moving money around in local economy.
The best way to get REAL american factory jobs back is to not even support the ones we already have!

Ryobi tools
>drill
no balls
>jigsaw
worms the finish from the table every time
>weedeater
kinda weak, chews through a 5Ah battery in 30-40 min
>impact
awesome. I kick the shit out of it everyday and it always performs. Lower torque than other brands, but it drives lags just fine.
>router
the plastic adjustable table is trash and broke
>grinder
clunky, not my first choice

I guess the impact is their only tool I'm a fan of.

I got makita because all my coworkers have makita and we can swap batteries if we forget to charge

>>1622126
You forgot something...
>drill
cheap
>jigsaw
cheap
>weedeater
cheaper than other battery powered ones, I might get a gas model after I finish my testosterone treatment
>impact
cheap and drives screws better than the cheap drill
>router
cheap
>grinder
cheaper than the good brands used by dudes who need to get work done by the end of their shift

ftfy

Jokes on you, I work at Home Depot and get ez pickings on clearance items.

My makitas were dirt cheap.

They work fine for me. The drills and grinder get use 5 times a week. I mostly drill into plastic and cut 1/8” stainless rail with the grinder. The little handheld air compressor is one of their best products.

>>1618526

There's best, best for your money, and cheapest. That's how the brands are managed.

Ryobi and Rigid are middle tier, best for your money.

Of course, they have to make the tool you need. I want a tracksaw. Does Ryobi or Rigid have one? Nope? Then I guess it's DeWalt or Makita.

>>1622326

Fuck. I can never catch the clearances. Tons of home depot's around, but so is corporate hq so I guess they snap it all up.

>>1621770
>Milwaukee is the ONLY company that has a real 12V lineup.

In fairness, Makita doesn't do 12v because it makes subcompact versions of its 18v tools. This way you can get cheap versions of the stuff you only use occasionally but you can still share batteries.

Imo that's the better way to do it.

>>1620946
>Implying inexperienced morons won't buy pricier tools.

Most of my power tools have been purchased from upper middle class suburban garage sales after some white collar office drone spends a few thousand dollars at lowes to learn that watching 3 hours of HGTV daily doesn't make you an expert at remodeling kitchens.

>>1621702

Unless you're buying Makita (or I think Bosch or festool as well), every brand is owned by one of a small number of megacorps. That's good news and bad news but it's the same fulfillment centers for warranty work.

>>1622529
Nothing about that post implied retards don't blow money on things they can't use. All it said is that the proliferation of cheap dangerous tools makes it EASIER for morons to buy them.

>>1619166
I agree. If you want cheap and reliable I would go a different green.
Great little drill and impact driver.
Bosch green.

Nice 12v set for around home and garage. 100 percent Milwakee.

Everyday use On site I have Makita 18v

Fuck Ryobi is dog shite

>>1622525
The battery packs still weigh a lot. DeWalt has subcompact as well, and they’re releasing more 12V tools. And there’s no way they could make a ratchet as useful as the M12 with an 18v battery.

>>1622562
Bosch green tools are barely sold in the US and its very difficult to find stores that support the product line. Lowes is winding down their Bosch line and they are still pricey compared to other homeowners usage product lines.

as others have said before, the biggest advantage Ryobi has over so many other tool lines is selection, their 18v line has dozens of products no other company has with a lazer focus on homeowner applications, not commercial use.

>>1618723
love those mini impact drivers. i had a porter cable i was pretty happy with.

>>1622585

Just get one with fewer Amp hrs

>>1622875
Still nigger, look at it.

Maybe if they started using some of those half 18650, like the CR123 size, but then those packs would be worthless for anything else which negates having compact 18v tools over 12v

I like my Ryobi 2 cycle weed wacker

>>1621030
>>>1620959
>See >>1621027
>44:52
Anyone who does this, kill yourself.

>>1621770
Bosch has a pretty awesome 12 v line. Especially if you don’t mind shipping the European models over... fucking krauts get the grinder... planer... saw...

>>1622532
Bosch owns dremel and some other companies..

>>1623041
Bosch is a megacorp in and of itself, their industrial manufacturing and automotive components branches far overshadow their power tool departments.

they also own Freud, which manufactures Avanti and Diablo brand blades and bits sold at Home Depot.

>>1619166
Bought my first Ryobi One+ screw driver in 2009, it still works, a bit worn bit still works. I'm not a professional, just using it quite regulary at my summer cottage with lots of other Ryobi One+ Tools.
I've seen them used quit much by lots of janitors as well. Sure they would suck if you're a Construction worker but for DIY use or really light professional work they are OK.

>>1622532