/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1614975
In my experience, people who buy Snap On dont really brag about it. Its only the people that vehemently refuse to spend any money on tools that get butthurt about them.

>>1614975

Snap-on for hand tools too big to lose.

Random amazon shit for small shit that you will lose.

Milwaukee for power.

Fuck you if you still use air tools.

>>1614975
Beppis.

>>1614978
>Milwaukee for power.
>Fuck you if you still use air tools.

>>1614979

>>1614979
>Beppis.
/thread

>>1614979
>>1614989
>Beppis
???

>>1614975
Milwaukee and rigid defense force
DeWalt for life

>>1614979
This

That said, Festool daddies are the worst IMO.

>>1614975
Beppis

>>1614975
Beppu

also bepis thread

>>1614983

Milwaukee M12, DeWalt 20v, zero air tools.

Master techs and porters asking to borrow my shit CONSTANTLY because I'm the only tech in a luxury dealer shop full of $100k/year motherfuckers who has a power 1/2" impact and tire pressure machine and vacuum.

I use PB Swiss but I also do precision work.
The kind of precision work that needs an actual degree in engineering.
I probably make more through a phonecall than you stinking mongs do a week

>>1615160
>implying
Upper 5 figures here, and zero debt.

>>1614979
>no mention of Gearwrench
I’m a firm believer in Taiwanesium. Snap On is only worth the money on certain things if you work in the shop and take advantage of the warranty and credit line and tool truck guy’s services (since that is what your paying for with the high high snappy prices). And Harbor Freight is ok if you’re a poorfag who can’t afford anything else and need to make it through one job, but HF also has a lot of Taiwanesium these days, however it costs the same as Taiwanesium from other better known brands so I don’t understand the appeal of paying the money for mid range tools from HF.

>>1614975
Also Icon Tools would like to have a word with you. They are trying so hard to look just like Snappy.

>>1615171
Six figures average with a few good business dropping by then and now. Zero debt at graduation, got a fully paid contract after first internship.
>getting paid to study
Feels good, man

People who act like cheerleaders for a fucking tool manufacturer, or gatekeep the hobby based on what brand of tool you have or don't have.
Milwaukee, DeWalt, Rigid, or Snap-On don't care about you, and aren't paying you to shill their shit online. Worse than waifu-fags, I swear.

>>1615222
>he has never used Snap On

>>1615242
It's not the color of the tool, it's its size

>>1615222
>he doesn't have a good goy account
Here's your 0 sheckles

>>1615243
But we all know black is the biggest

I don't really care about brand. I have a couple toolchests full of a random mix of shit I've accumulated over 25 or so years and it all works fine. In the rare chance that something brakes I'll stop by my local hardware store or auto parts store and buy a replacement. People who shill one brand over another are just wankers, in the end it doesn't matter.

I have Craftsman and Proto in a Harbor Freight box. Somewhere...

I kinda like Northern Tool. They have their cheap ass Ironton brand without a lifetime warranty, that’s like HF Chinesium. Then they have this Klutch brand which has been solid Taiwan stuff from everything I have seen. Then they have the name brands like Milwaukee and Channellock for lots of stuff.

Also, why did I buy pic related?

>>1614975
The fucks that buy a tool, then - afterwards - make a thread on /diy/ asking if they made a good decision and/or what they should do with it now.

FFFFUUUUUCKKK YOOOOOOOUUUUUUU

HOW DID YOU END UP LIKE THIS? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAIN THAT YOU BUY A TOOL WITHOUT HAVING A PURPOSE FOR IT AND/OR THAT YOU BUY A TOOL WITHOUT DOING RESEARCH; AND WORSE YET ASK SOMEONE ELSE IF IT'S GOOD IF YOU HAVE IT RIGHT THERE IN YOUR HAND TO TEST!! FUUUUCK

>>1614975
go to any descent shop, its snap on and mac, maybe some cornwell and sk.
For home... sure harbor freight/crafstman/lowes would be fine.
Unfortunately you get what you pay for in terms of precision.

>>1615419
>... what they should do with it now.
kek like all tarduino threads before someone started an arduino containment general.
I gotta hand it to that italian fellow who cooked up the idea, he must have made a mint from the viral memeness of it all.

>>1615419
Sorry

>>1615514
I still haven’t done anything with mine. When I finally get an idea, at least I will have my kit so I can start working on it before I lose interest in the 36hrs it would take for Amazon to deliver it.

Btw, I got my metric bleeder wrench.

>>1615248
I hear it smells funny though.

>>1615528
Once you spend enough time around Black, you don’t even notice the shea butter anymore.

>>1615417
Because fuck your old oil filter

>>1615539
Honestly I haven’t run into a situation where pic related didn’t work really well. The big channellock type ones are a bitch to get in certain spots and pic related on a flex head ratchet has gotten everywhere I needed it to go.

But yeah that vise grip one will definitely be for the filter from hell. It adjusts to a bunch of different sizes.

>>1614975

snapon guys for sure

>their argument "its an investment"

when i explain its a liability until they recoup the money they put into the tools then it becomes an investment--

say you spent $20k on snap on tools and a box your 20k in the hole you fix cars for the month you make $5k then you get laided off well your 15k in the hole with no profit from them tools

now another tech go and buys the same amount of tools from craftsman and harbor fright an he spends $3500 he works for a month an he makes $5000 his tools now become an investment he made back the $3500 he spent an made 1500 profit

>>1615556
>off by one
Almost. The Snappy might not break in the middle of the job where a Craftsman tool does. It won’t be very often, but that’s lost money right there when he can’t get the job done.

However, you can get plenty of tools that are just as good as Snap On but for far less money. Like half of the money you pay for Snap On tools is strictly for the service of the truck guy. If you buy a wrench for $30, you’re really paying $10-$15 for a very high quality wrench (including the R&D and everything that goes into it before it makes it to the rep). The other $15-$20 is paying for the guy delivering it to you while you’re on the job, checking up on you weekly, replacing the wrench when it breaks, and giving you that tool box and $600 specialty tool on credit. So the only way anybody should even consider a Snap On tool collection is if they’re a career mechanic with a good rep and they interact with the rep at least once a week.

The internet kind of changed the game though, you can get SK in 2 days on Amazon, or quality Taiwanesium for way cheaper. Lots of sellers will ship you a new tool if you just send them a pic of the broken one and that can be faster than waiting 6 days for the Snappy guy.

>>1614975
brand loyalists are the kings of faggotry. I'm a firm believer in the saying 'a bad carpenter blames his tools.' No tool will save you from being incompetent, don't matter if you got ryobi dewalt or milwaukee, if you can't keep the tip in line with the screw it's because you have the eye hand coordination of a toddler, otherwise they work just fine. These people remind me of those food fetishists, 'I've been on a Brazilian kick lately, it's amazinggggg,' fuck you, I know you eat wendys. It's just a way for people to puff out their chest and act superior without actually doing shit. Hell, having the wrong tool for the job might even be beneficial, forces you to get creative, improvise, and get a greater understanding of the behavior of the material you're working with. All those buildings and furniture built pre 1800s? Yea not a single fuckin power tool. They exist to make our lives easier, so when someone bitches about a tool brand, you know what theyre really saying? 'This tool doesn't make things easy enough for me.' Imagine a grown 'man' saying that. Step aside buttercup, someone else can make it happen with less

>>1614978
>>1615138

What if you work in a shop that actually builds or fixes shit and you need a die grinder that isn't some xbox huge electric pos?

Flat rate dealer techs can disregard this post.

>>1615547

the claw/jaw types are weaker than the spider type you posted. when all else truly fails, you hammer a screwdriver through it and put a pipe on the end of it.

>>1615556
If you are a competent mechanic you will find work even if you are laid off.
Its your career, you need the tools regardless.

In the long run, spending 1/4 of what it costs to buy decent tools to get full set of HF tools first is literally just throwing money away.
Youll have redundant cheap tools you wont use, which have no monetary value to resell them.

Cant fault people for investing in their own career. Your logic only works for young guys who give up and leave the industry

>>1615616
>no monetary value to resell them
How much do you really think you will get if you try to sell your while $50k box worth of tools? It will take you months before somebody comes and gives you $5k cash for it, or you could deal with dumbasses all day buying single tools for 6mos and maybe get $15k from it. You would most definitely take less of a hit with cheaper tools if you want to come from that angle.

Just five more payments and its mine

>>1615582
The only air tool that exists is an impact of course!

>>1615639
If you are lazy and refuse to part out tools, of course you'll take a bigger hit.

That has nothing to do with the inherent value of the tools, or their resale value.
Nobody is going to come buy a large lot of shitty tools from you for any appreciable amount of money. Look at tool tables at flea markets for example.
So if you wanted to take a stupid big hit and get some really fast cash, quality tools is the better option obviously. It's that or its literally not being able to sell dogshit tools at all.

Though most people dont sell whole tool collections, even after they retire or change careers. That's for your next to kin to do when you die

Also go check the classifieds on Garagejournal or check ebay. Used SnapOn and other quality brands sell easily.

>>1615643
>60+ year old wrench still kicking, still under lifetime warranty

>>1615524
these work great for high trans bolts.

>>1615616
>If you are a competent mechanic you will find work even if you are laid off.

You'll have more available than you can manage if you're good. There are plenty of mechanics, but there aren't plenty of really good mechanics.

>>1615653
>Over $60k worth of Snap On, Mac, Matco, Cornwell tools in $18k Snap On box
>Asking $12k
>If ad is still up, it’s still for sale
>NO LOWBALLERS! I KNOW WHAT I GOT!
All day on Craigslist
>Posted Jan 28, 2019
>not sold yet

>>1615655
It’s more impressive that nobody has lost that wrench yet.

>>1615680
But I'm looking for the others. I think they're in the blue box.

I've broken numerous tools in my time and all of them are from pushing them way too hard. A 5 foot cheater on a 10mm open end wrench was my most recent. A proto.

The truth of the matter is that you shouldn't have just one wrench or just two. I have nearly 5 of every hand tool you could want minium. As well as 3 of every hand power tool. The truck I drive is worth $1000 the tools I carry with me in it are worth $300,000. The only lesson I can tell you guys is you won't break a tool in normal use and if you don't have a back up you have no excuse. Unless you break something special that's over $500

And before you say why so many of everything. Some times you have to make custom wrenches or picks, screw drivers, etc as for power tools. They crap out when the lead comes out. Nothing is more infuriating than a drive chuck freezing or a sawzall that has a trigger shit the bed.

>>1615655
>a single piece of forged steel hasn't magically evaporated
holy shit

>>1614977
...this is actually true, wow

I've had snap on tools snap off and harbor freight junk last
Anyone who identifies with a brand is a fool

>>1615971
But they will tell you that your Milwaukee cordless tools which are objectively better than their overpriced Snappy tools are complete trash.

I don’t think you have met many real Snap On Fanbois with collector’s edition boxes.

>>1616002
I honestly dont think you have either

>>1616002
let fanboys be fanboys anon
for just about everything, there is always a special group of people who feel superior to others for consuming a specific product

>>1614975
Why does it even have wheels on it. You would need a forklift to move it. I can't imagine having to push it on an uneven floor.

>>1616004
Head mechanic in our shop won’t even touch anything that didn’t come off the tool truck. One of them must sell Knipex though because I saw him with a pair of those once.

That shit is shop culture, tool truck guys love stupid kids out of tech school who blow half their paycheck every week on truck payments, and the kids compete with eachother.

>>1615701
You drive around with $300k of tools in a $1k truck?! Be careful where you park, I guess

>>1616278
At least it’s a shitty truck so people won’t suspect it.

My dad did HVAC and was like their head senior tech with a big Sprinter 3500 packed out with all his own equipment. He had a bunch of those big round padlocks all reinforced and would always park it in the driveway blocked by another car. One time in the city (on the hood, IIRC it was this big public housing account they had) he came outside from a job and nogs with a flatbed are getting ready to hook the thing up to a flatbed tow truck and steal it and he pulled a gun on em.

can anyone recommend a metric-english, torx, socket and wrench set that is compact and will handle most car repairs. it needs to be compact to fit inside a singlecab truck

~~FOR A LOW OR SALE PRICE~~
im trying to be frugal here. i know they can be had for about $25 if you patiently look around and check the autozone, craigen, lowes, homedepot, wallmart, harbor freigt ads... i just cant possibly check them all. are there any deals that anyone is currently aware of?

>>1616426
You posted this before...

Check the Sears website for Craftsman sets, they have a ton of different options and the prices are always changing so it won’t take long to catch 60%+ off on a set you like.

Or the Kobalt sets on Lowe’s website because they have lots on clearance to make room for Craftsman.

There is one super cheap HF set, but it’s going to be like dollar store tools. That’s like the real cheap crap you can get at Walmart. I think if you spend $50-$75, you will have something way better. If you aren’t going to use it for anything else and only want to keep it in the truck for maybe one loose bolt a year, then spend the $25. I got a set on clearance for $20 at Meijer years back and I keep that in my car, but it’s metric only. For all the stuff you want, I really think you should spend a little more for a ratchet that can actually take a rusty nut off on the side of the road.

>>1616426
>>1616433
Northern Tool is another good place to check. Ironton is their Chinesium brand, Klutch is their higher end brand. The Klutch sets are nice and go on sale for good prices a lot but more expensive.

^^^^
im thinking maybe i could find a tool set with just all the socket heads and bits that i need as i already have the ratchets

>>1616433
you constantly give really good feedback, thank you

>>1616439
I know

>>1616426
Just go buy this shit heap already

>>1616426
>can anyone recommend a metric-english, torx, socket and wrench set that is compact and will handle most car repairs. it needs to be compact to fit inside a singlecab truck


Tool list i have compiled for keeping inside a singlecab pickup truck.
incase i need to repair mines or a friends vehicle.

shallow sockets
will i need deep sockets?
4mm - 20mm
1/8in - 3/4in
what size-range of sockets should be 1/4in
what size-range of sockets should be 3/8in

ratchets
1/4in drive + short extenstion x2 + swivel joint thingy
3/8in drive + short extenstion x2 + swivel joint thingy
do i need 1/2in ratchet? do i have room+$$ for 1/2in ratchet and another 20 socket heads?
could i just use a siezed 3/8in ratchet with a cheater bar instead of a ratcheting 1/2in ratchet wrench? i imagine most nuts that size will have enough clearance to use a regula box wrench or a non-ratcheting socket


box wrenches - Do i really need this many sizes in box wrenches?
4mm - 20mm
1/8in - 3/4in

3mm to 10mm allen keys
1/16 to 1/2in allen keys

torx bit sizes?

XXXXXXXXXXXXX

tools i already have
3/8th ratchet
long and short phillips + flat screw driver
tiny phillips + flat screwdriver
tin snips, small snips, pliers,
axe, hammer
multimeter
obd2 scanner that wont connect to my iphone
tire plug kit
electronic sensor cleaner spray can
pb blaster spray can
lithium grease spray can
electrical tape, duct tape

at any moment some crackhead can come along, bash my window and take my tools, that is why i would like a cheap + compact (out of sight) tool kit

memorial day sales!!!

sears website grinds my computer to a near halt!

why cant all websites be craigslist style???

wow a bunch of sears craftsman stuff is going for 50-75% off

except i cant oopen any of the links because my browser is frozen

>>1616469
I would be down with a crescent wrench rather than a full set of 30+ combination wrenches. Or the glorious Knipex. If you have a tire iron in your car, 1/4” and 3/8” drive ratchets with the basic sockets should be ok (shallow should get most jobs done). Anything bigger than 3/4” or 19mm is going to be a little more than a roadside project. Screwdriver with all of the bits (torx and hex and plus and minus) should be fine. If you really want to be anal, find out the exact sizes of the common fasteners and just keep a few wrenches and sockets, but then you will be fucked when a pretty girl needs help with her Toyota.

You have to decide if you’re trying to assemble an emergency kit or you want all the tools to work on your car but you’re going to carry them with you everywhere instead of leaving them at home. Don’t forget fluids and a test light or cheap multimeter.

>>1616480
>>1616482
Their website is awful. The mobile app is slightly better.

i recall seeing full socket sets at the flea market, but i can imagine them trying to charge me just as much as a brand new -50% on sale- tool set

>>1616483
>I would be down with a crescent wrench rather than a full set of 30+ combination wrenches.
ive found a small cresent wrench wont fit in a lot of tight places like replacing door handles, removing sensors deep in the engine bay and other tight places. i imagine i really need a set of box wrenches for the smaller sizes

>Or the glorious Knipex
just googled it.
does this tool amplify hand strength? cuase i dont have man-hand-strength
i should try this! think i could get one for $5 or less at flea market?

>If you really want to be anal, find out the exact sizes of the common fasteners and just keep a few wrenches and sockets,
i originally tried to look this up multiple times for my make and model truck on the glorious rangerstation.com and other sites and i couldnt find, this would have been ideal as it would mean minimal crap in my truck.

many a time i have ended up being the tool guy for many a woman and womanly-man with my random-shit-found-at-the-scrapyard toolbox

>>1616493
>ive found a small cresent wrench wont fit in a lot of tight places like replacing door handles, removing sensors deep in the engine bay and other tight places. i imagine i really need a set of box wrenches for the smaller sizes
you know im starting to think i just need a small 1/4in ratchet set in a clean case and a small size box wrench set in a clean case, and most everything else can be done with cresent wrenches, and my hodgepodge of 3/8ths ratchet shit can be thrown in an old toolbag

>>1614978
No u.

Air tools but trench a line and put that faggot fucking compressor outside. I'm working in my barn with 5 50' hoses and the fucking compressor in the kitchen of the house. Noisy pieces of shit.

With battery tech these days i see air being pased out almost entirely

>>1615171
Zero debt is only good if you're a hippie or a homesteader

>>1615419
It's trolling you fucking idiot. And they caught you without b8

>>1615510
>cornwell.

Dad is a mechanic and been rocking their toolbox for 20 years

>>1616516
Lemme know when there's an electric equivalent to an air hammer and I'll jump on the bandwagon

i try and narrow and narrow and narrow my search down

>Displaying 1-50 of 500+ Items

>>1615647
>muh ugga duguh

so i remembered i bought this $5 harbor frieght socket set off amazon for $10
Pittsburgh®
40 Pc 3/8 in., 1/4 in. Drive SAE & Metric Socket Set
that has like every socket i need, and came with a single garbage 3/8ths ratchet
... i have more 3/8ths ratchets already in my tool box

but i still need a 1/4in ratchet and i found a $15 tool kit with
1/4in ratchet
1/4in deep socket set, metric and sae
1/4in swivel joint thingy and 1/4 extentions

and then i found a 32pc huskey set of box wrenches for $20
that has short and long wrenches for both metric and sae
goes down to 6mm and 1/4in.... is that as far down as most nuts &screws go?

and then i found a set of torx keys that also comes with an sae and a metric set of allens for $10
although i would like to have loose allen keys

that should make for $50 tool kit?

habor frieght garbage

>>1616522
Still have some cornwell stuff. The cornwell dealer was really creepy so only bought from him a few times.

>>1616493
Ok you aren’t thinking about an emergency kit if you’re mentioning door handles. Please spend more than $25 on tools to keep at home to repair the car. You need much less plus a cell phone for the road.

>>1616539
Yeeee

>>1616582
That ratchet will likely fall apart the first time you really try to use it. Those are beyond shitty

>>1614978
The fuck is wrong with air tools? Like ya they are noisy but get a pair of 15 cent ear plugs.

>>1616519
>t. 300k in the hole with a gender studies degree

>>1616854
Of you know, anyone who wants to buy a car or a house or a business in the future.
You dont build credit by refusing to use credit.

>>1616524
Makita kango.
Or any demolition hammer.

>>1616723
You don’t need to be tied to an air compressor to remove lug nuts anymore. And of course, the impact wrench is the only air tool that matters.

>>1616859
>Not paying cash for your car/house
>2019

Pathetic

>>1616859
>Not paying cash for your car/house

Pathetic

>>1617134
>>1617132
>using liquid cash to buy a home outright
Do some research in investing and financial independence friend.
I wouldnt want you to retire at age 70 like all the other retards who refuse to play the game.

>goes on and on about snap-on
>has spend 10,000 dollars on tools
>finally see his garage
>has 5 2000 dollar wrenches

I just buy well reviewed chinkshit

>>1617212
You gotta know how to comb through the reviews though. There are plenty of 4+ reviews on 3 start items because of people like “Well it isn’t nearly as good as the brand name pro model, but it was only 1/20 the price and hasn’t broken in 3 uses so 5 stars!”

>>1617213
I usually buy it if a tech youtuber uses or praises it.

>>1617134
>not buying 10 houses and having rentcucks pay your mortgage

>>1614975
>I ONLY BUY MY TOOLS FROM HARBOR FREIGHT, IT'S JUST AS GOOD AS THE TOOL TRUCK STUFF,

you obviously don't work on anything.
Harbor freight is fine for tightening up a faucet with a box wrench. Good lock not fucking up trans bolts with that.

>>1614975
Craftsman, KMS, Husky. Even Mastercraft makes excellent handtools, no warranty beef, ever.
Snap-on had priced themselves out of the marked years ago, warranty doesn't apply to bluepoint, most dealers are real pricks about warranty, and are mostly pricks in general.
Pic related is an enormous cunt with a tiny dick.
Oldfag, AME, 39 years. snap-on is only for brand-name twats.

>>1616480
>>1616484
Holy fuck, my browser showed 111 new domains and I couldn't scroll the page from the phone.
The advertising bucks they must rake in with our data...

>>1614975
festool drones

i own multiple festool tools

>>1617231
Are you incapable of detecting irony?

>>1617278
kek. Love that I got someone to reply that that.
Enjoy the rest of your Saturday anon.

>>1616911
Air tools are great for things other than mechanics, I use my die grinder/cut off tool/dumore on like a daily basis. Air tools are cheap as fuck and reliable and in like 99% of situations you have an airline nearby.

They're still great to use.

>>1617231
Just checked my new harbor freight wrenches compared to hf wrenches from ten years ago to Williams wrenches to 2 year old snap on. Measured with a mic. The 1/2 and 9/16 and 5/8 in all sets were almost the same size. The 1/2 SO was 0.509 HF New 0.506 HF Old .510 and old Williams .502 all within spec. Field testing for rigidity aka how many I've had them slip from flex is close except for one outlier. The new HF. Those wrenches seem to snap rather than slip. The lower "jaw" breaks off or the box end cracks.

Personal favorite is the older Williams from 1960s very ridged tough steel. The "jaws" don't slip without a cheater bar on the wrench.

>>1614975
The "electric/battery is better than gas" fags who think that batteries are even remotely close to the power density of petroleum (specifically talking about lawn tools). There's a few that are okay like this hand shear that Iove using to get around bushes, but blowers, mowers and wood chippers? They all suck and will never compare to the tuning and torque of an engine.

>>1615173
>gearwrench
>sunex
>grey pneumatic
>some HF tools

I am honestly a firm believe on the above brands give you best value for your money, Most of my tools are sunex, but I also have gearwrench and grey pneumatic mixed in

I only have three things from snap on
>blue pointe ratchet wrenches SAE
>snap on 1/4 inch head ratchet, bendable head, got it for 50 bucks
>snap on pwz2

and some matco adapters and thats it.

I just buy shit from pawn shops
It seems silly to do anything else unless you're just rolling in money

>>1617437
>power density of petroleum

I'm assuming you mean "energy density". Gas doesn't have a power density per-se.

If you actually do mean power density, then lol u dumb.

>>1617445
He could mean the power density of electric motors vs. gas piston engines, but he'd be wrong there. Electric motors, particularly the high-power brushless ones in modern higher-end tools, have a higher power density than piston engines. It's the batteries that have a lower energy density than gas.

i only use Snap-On. chink tools always break when i need them most. no point buying the same tool over and over again when i can buy a quality tool and use it for the rest of my life

>>1616723
cordless has surpassed them in almost every way. air is still better for die grinder, sander, hammers, paint etc but that's shit most people don't use every day. aside from the hammer those are also the tools you need a fuck huge compressor to operate properly

>>1617442
>buy circular saw from pawn shop
>some jerk wants it back and tracked me down
I made him pay me 20 bucks but holy shit I thought he was going to stab me.
And no, the owner didn't tell him who bought it I already inquired him, sounds like the other guy was stalking the shop after someone stole his shit.

Fuck pawn shops.

>>1617474
Damn man. That has never happened to me. You can't beat the prices of shit hole pawn shops though.

>>1617212
Quick 861D is flawless imo. Use it daily at work

>>1617481
I'm pretty paranoid after that, never really trusted anyone and it pushed me into the schizophrenia territory.

>>1617445
I know you're dumb, not only because you're not going to be able to define "power" or "energy" without using google but because you put "sage goes in all fields" on fucking /diy/. It's irrelevant anyway because the prime mover of an electrical generator is usually something that fucking burns

I’m unironically thinking about becoming a Hiltifag. I get reimbursed for all of my tools by the company so why not. The other alternative is Ingersol-Rand, but I know the Hilti rep personally.

Milwaukee has generally never done me wrong, but their cordless drills are fucking dogshit. I’ve burnt out two in the past year. They’ve replaced them no problem, but it ruins the day. I only used them for cutting holes in schedule 40 sprinkler pipe, but still. I’ve had to use my heavy ass corded hole shooter from the 90s to get a necessary task done.

>>1617486
I had a really bad experience trying to buy a car on craigslist.
Red flags before we got there over text (which I didnt hear about till we got home). Red flags when I looked at the car as he lied his face off. Then serious, scary red flags when I took it for a test drive and he sat in the back seat behind me and was trying to direct me where to test drive it to.

I noped the fuck out of there, I still cant decide if he was trying to rob me or not but it certainly felt like it.
Ive checked his phone number on search engines and he seems to sell a lot of cars, but still. Shook me pretty bad.

>>1615222
I have all milwaukee so batteries match. But no manufacture comes out on top for all tools. DeWalt makes a nicer circ saw, for example.

>>1617513
I have been getting their ads on FB and they aren’t nearly as bad as you would expect. They don’t have fire sales on big kits, but bare tools are about on par with DeWalt or Makita.

They aren’t the newest or best though. New Milwaukee and DeWalt brushless numbers will blow the Hilti out of the water. But they should last longer than the alternatives and a lower chance of them burning up for no reason at all.

>>1617520
All of the main tools from the brands are so damn close. They all offer all of the main tools too, I guess you should decide on specialty tools like if Milwaukee sells an electrician tool that Dewalt doesn’t offer or Makita has some woodworking stuff. Ergonomics might be the next best deciding factor.

>>1615160
But are you happy? That is all that really matters.

>>1616516

Air's easier if you got no interior power or are using it for sustained periods (eg, any sort of commercial shop with more than 1 employee). Less maintenance, more power, and you can lock the whole thing off with a key. It all depends on the application, nobody is using an air drill for residential rough-ins or additions but air is great if you have to manufacture 5+ prefab wall units. It's more power efficient too, especially if more than one guy is using the tank at once (this does require a large tank though).

>>1616911

blow gun, die grinder, transducer also matter

3/8 and 1/2 inch impacts are no longer necessary, but 3/4 and 1 inch still have their place as far as im concerned

>>1617590
>Introducing Milwaukee’s new PROSTATE(tm) BRUSHLESS motor

Jensen makes the best screwdrivers, nut drivers, hex drivers, etc. Bar none. More expensive than Snap-On and for good reason.

Matco is fucking retarded. Set of picks - literally $0.99 at Harbor Freight, is $140 from Matco. Unless it performs fellatio on me every time I use one, that's just beyond stupid. $300 for a set of 11 sockets... again, do they perform fellatio on me whenever I use them?

Snap-On is... eh... they're okay. Older Proto ratchets are better, older mac and older SK wrenches are better. I have a bunch of SO I'm just not all that hype about it. I don't put the cart before the horse with brands, so when I started getting a lot of SO tools I judged them as they were and they were just... idk... better than most of what you can buy at a store but not nearly as good as Makita.

Milwaukee is made in Taiwan with all the glorious metal quality you can expect from Chinese quality assurance. They're garbage. Older Milwaukee (they stuff actually made in Milwaukee) is great. Modern Milwaukee... yeah, that impact that says it has 1400ft-lb of breaking torque, lemme see, now do it again, oh darn your $500 tool broke into three pieces.

(Do I qualify for an annoying stereotype yet?)

Dewalt, also made in Taiwan garbage.
Festool, made from such low-quality components, and often of the wrong kind of metal where that sort of thing matters, that they're objectively Skil-level qualtiy but cost 8x as much.

Porter Cable - it seems every friggin' power tool has a glaring error in design that turns what would otherwise be a good tool for the money into a steaming pile of poo.

>>1617544
Air tools have their place. Being tethered sucks, but holy shit have you ever used a battery 1/4" monobolt gun and do you want to carry an extra 8 lb for two hours when 30min of that is with your hands over your head?.
Also, it's nice to pilot steel/aluminum with a 1/8 air-powered before going back with a 17/64. (battery folk don't actually know what a fast drill is)

>>1619429
>(Do I qualify for an annoying stereotype yet?)

Yeah, as the loud mouth bullshitter which everything you say can't really be trusted

>>1617592
no where near the torque of a 1" air impact. i'm all for cordless but they have a long way to go when it comes to the big impacts.

cordless die grinders are also way too fucking big to be of much use. i'm surprised no one has made a cordless hammer tho. air hammers and die grinders are 99% of my compressor usage

>>1614978
>Fuck you if you still use air tools.

Heavy Equipment techs would like a word

>>1614978

Can you show me an electric air hammer?
Can you show me an electric impact that can out power my 3/4"?
You going to use a cutoff wheel with that electric drill there anon?
Can you show me an electric 1/4" ratchet that will overpower a air one?