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I'm a 24 year old man and I have no idea about building a house, what tools do I need and why, fixing my car, doing any kind of electric work and working with wood, to make myself a table for example, etc.. plumbing, planning my house out, which things I can do with my own hands and where I can save the most when building my house. How to plan cost, what workers to hire, etc.. I'm from EU so we have concrete/brick houses, I should mention that I guess..
Is there any extensive guide for someone like me on the internet? I had no guidance from my family and they never sat me down to teach me anything, I kind of had to raise myself and things happen in these cases.

I do know how to program in C++ and want to go into robotics/PLC next year, since I'm in CS college and have worked as a machine operator in some industrial factory wasting my time and energy away, so I have some practical skills with big industrial machines and robotic cells and how to fix them and how they operate, but that's it. I also had another jobs, but nothing smart.

I'm in early 20s and I know I have to make a good foundation now, so my 30s won't suck and that I will be able to afford a family..I need a little guidance that I never received and how to plan something like this out. Sure I could go up to a bunch of people and honestly explain to them my situation (mechanics, electricians,..), but before I do that, I want to ask here for some guidance.

>> No.1600666

>>1600655
Read some books OP

>> No.1600669

>>1600666
Which do you recommend, Satan?

>> No.1600681

>>1600655
Become Heisenberg. Die of cancer.

>> No.1600685

>>1600681
Nah, got some sweet jobs lined up and am overall in great condition.

>> No.1600686

>>1600655
Youtube.

>> No.1600691

>>1600669
YouTube

>> No.1600704

>>1600666

This. There's a whole lot of vocational training literature for tradies out there. These sorts of books won't teach you everything, but there's usually enough in there for you to get a general idea of what's possible and what you need to do to get there. At that point you start experimenting. You'll usually fuck up to some degree and over time you fuck up less as your skills develop. That is all.

>> No.1600706

>>1600691
> YouTube

Not a fan. It's usually ok for accomplishing a specific, tricky task that is best shown by demonstration, but that's about it. You'll have a hard time developing a good foundation in anything from Youtube videos. That takes books and/or a teacher along with experience. For both books and teachers usually have a curriculum that covers the whole field and that you go through bit by bit. Youtube videos are more about showing off an isolated thing, such as somebody's pet way of honing a plane iron to razor sharpness, usually. No structure there.

>> No.1600708

>>1600706
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

>> No.1600714

>>1600708

nobody alive can butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, set a bone, pitch manure and program a computer. You can't do half of these, I can't do most of these.

>> No.1600716

>>1600708

Somehow I'm not at all surprised to run into Heinleinians here.

>> No.1600721

>>1600714

I know a guy who can do most of the things you listed. Not sure whether he could write a sonnet, but the rest he can do.

>> No.1600725

>>1600721

conn a ship and design a building? I doubt if we are interpreting those two the same way.

>> No.1600728

>>1600725

He's a civil engineer and he's got a yachting license. So he can do both of these.

>> No.1600776

>>1600655
The first thing to learn is maths. Useful in many trades, but more useful to know when a job is better to hire someone, vs buy the tools, waste materials learning, and spending a lot of time you could have used elsewhere.
I learned electrical skills at a vocational school, and used them often. I wouldn’t tackle automotive work, except for changing lights and batteries. Even oil changes are done at the $30 place.

>> No.1600876

>>1600721
how good of a sonnet are we talking here?
because I can do the rest.
>>1600706
>ok for accomplishing a specific, tricky task
You have to find the generalists. Look into the homestead type people, and as a last resort on how to get things done look up "Greg Zanis". Thanks.

>> No.1600901

It's all on the internet. you just have to read it my friend.

>> No.1600904

>>1600876
>>1600706
Yes but why are you going to try and learn everything at once? That’s not practical. Wait for something to break, watch Youtube vid on repairing it, get tools and supplies and do the job, and within a couple years you will end up with a collection of skills and tools and will have to rely on the internet less and less.

But always take Youtube vids with a grain of salt, especially if it’s an important job. Or find somebody who is consistent and doesn’t spout bullshit or half ass stuff, I go back to the same Ford mechanic guy on Youtube for every fix after watching a bunch of retarded videos.

>> No.1600931

>>1600655
It's hard to say exactly what the answer is when we don't know anything about your life beyond the OP, but one thing pretty much every 4chan-goer has is access to YouTube. If you are good at figuring out which videos don't have the info you're looking for and which do, you can pretty quickly learn a lot of things, a lot more quickly than if you read books alone.

If you want to have a book around, Creative Homeowner and Black+Decker make great books for learning to do general construction stuff. I don't know if they're as accessible in Europe.

>> No.1600953

>>1600706
Have a look through this guy's videos.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP1AmDRhoas

>> No.1600971

>>1600904
>>1600931
>>1600953

OP here, thought this thread is going nowhere, but I guess this is fine.

>> No.1600974

>>1600706

i go out of my way to avoid youtube/any videos completely. shit is so full of retarded bullshit. cant handle shit like having a 25 minute video to show you how to wire an extention cord end. its fucking bananas and i wont support anything to do with it

>> No.1600982

>>1600655
I grew up with a dad knowing everything from fixing cars, welding and carpentry to building a complete house himself. He never really taught me anything. All i learned was how to build drywall. There's more to it than just having your dad around.

>>1600706
>You'll have a hard time developing a good foundation in anything from Youtube

Absolutely wrong! You must be watching the wrong videos. Yes there is a lot of bullshit out there but youtube is big. I learned more from Youtube and instagram than in school and uni.

Next year i'm starting my own company (machining) and i never did any apprenticeship or worked in a shop. All it took was about 5 years of watching youtube videos, the decision to finally order machine tools some drunken night and a bit of trial and error.

I also have a good foundation in carpentry thanks to youtube. Helps a lot when talking to my dad about projects even when i don't really do or plan to do carpentry work.

In my opinion youtube is the most important educational plattform. Even more important than wikipedia.

>> No.1600987

Can I use wood glue instead of laqure or special liquids to impregnate wood against soaking up water? Does not need to be pretty, it's for cheap wooden tools.

>> No.1600989

>>1600987
NVM. I found some old laqure.

>> No.1600991

>>1600714
I can. Not very well, but good enough to get out of a jam.

>> No.1600992

>>1600974
You can skip forward, and with HTML5 they added the option of speeding up the video up to 2x.

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1600993

>>1600989
>>1600987
>laqure
Apologise to the Queen for butchering her language.

>> No.1601077

>>1600716
More likely a Rippetoeian

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1601124

>>1600991
>but good enough to get out of a jam.
But are you good enough to get out of a jelly?

>> No.1601168

>>1600714
npc detected, crawl back into your tinyhouse

>> No.1601673

>>1600728

And designing the basics of a building isn't THAT hard. I took some basics back in college and neither the math nor planning is beyond a typical person so long as they are motivated to learn.

>> No.1601733

>>1600982
The machinist videos are incredible. There's still a general lack of understanding (I notice a lot of people in comments don't know the 3 surface method, and in videos there's general confusion about the thirds rule of thumb for hingeing), but also some amazing tips and such.

>> No.1601917

>>1600708
>change diaper
ez
>plan invasion
I'm a dia sc2 player
>butcher a hog
exp limited to rabits and deer, but I'll count this since I know I could
>conn a ship
never done it before but it seems easy enough given, at most, a week
>design a building
ez, usa shitbox style
>sonnet
ez
>balance accounts
ez, automated
>build wall
potus is already handling that, but otherwise ez
>set bone
did this for my finger once, ez
>comfort dying
probably tremendously difficult
>take order, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program, cook, fight
ez, duh

The only truly tough one is finding a heroic way to die. That list (which is a quote from some faggot) needs to be updated desu.

>> No.1602064

>>1600655
I use this book all the time. my dad bought me a current edition when I bought my first house and he had one when he bought his first house in the 60s. Super handy book for a home owner but won’t teach everything
https://openlibrary.org/works/OL6985207W/Reader's_digest_complete_do-it-yourself_manual

>> No.1602066

congrats you're on par with the average sheetmetal worker

get some gloves, some metal shears, an angle grinder and get back to work.

>> No.1602203

Hot tip: don't cheap out on hand tools (hammer, pliers, wrenches, etc). If you cheap out, they will be difficult to use and borderline unusable after the first dozen jobs. Spend a few more bucks and they will last a lifetime

>> No.1602220

>>1600655
You could ask to hang out with the maintenance crew in your industrial factory. Maybe they'll teach you.