/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1488177
A thread died for this.

Some guy here made his own braces, but he died.

I suppose we are all our own dentist in a way. Brushing out teeth and performing regular maintenance. But no. Unless you are Tom Hanks stuck on a desert island with no means of escape, there is no need for giving yourself a root canal.

Get cavity... dose self with Tylenol and ibuprofen alternating for a week or two till nerve fully dies... 2-6 months later the tooth shatters and falls out... done it twice.. dont recommend... eventually when I have better dental insurance I plan to get it all fixed... fucking a

>>1488177
I know a guy who made hia own temporary filling from zinc oxide and clove oil. He was on a boat on an ocean crossing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_oxide_eugenol

just stop eating sugar and carbs and your teeth will heal.

>>1488809
As an American you may as well just tell me to stop breathing air...

>>1488177
>/diy/ dentistry

>>1488177
Stories from elders regarding DIY dentistry:

Back in the day, a dentist wasn't available at the village. So when grandma got a toothache, the remedy was to take the used filling of a smoking pipe and put it on the tooth for anasthesia so the pain could be beared for one more day.

The rotting tooth got infected, grandmas face swole up. She couldn't see, couldn't eat just barely could take water. Eventually, after a week of fever dreams the tooth came loose and the rot flowed out, swelling stopped with it.

Onwards to grandpa getting conscripted in the glorious Soviet Army - one of the conscripts got a toothache. Dentist again unavailable.

A thought is born - kill the tooth nerve and stop the pain. What could be good for killing a nerve - electric shock! Where do you get a good shock? The missile launch power supply of course.

And so the brave soldier lied down. Two of his comrades held him in place, while one held the launch impulse wires in his mouth at the problem area. At the ready signal, a fourth soldier pushed the launch button.

IIRC it had worked.

Maybe you get some ideas from this on how to save money on dental bills.

anyone done their own filling replacement?

>>1488177
I like pain, so i toy with my tooth for a few days until it is easier to remove

>>1488177
take a styrofoam cup, rip off a piece, put it in your mouth, boom, fake teeth

>>1489654
I do this but, as a britbong, I use orange peel

>>1488177
Infection from tooth. No evidence on tooth or gums, but know the area.
>Go to non-urgent care, get antibiotics.
>For pain swish vodka in infected area for 20-30 seconds then spit out. Good to go for 2-4 hours.
2 days later I am feeling good and no more issues.

Had a tooth crack and no money for dentist. Over a period of months, it decayed more and a large chunk of it fell off. Sharp edge that my tongue kept hitting and got sore. Used nail file to smooth off sharp edge. A few months later another piece broke off. Found that I could move it slightly in the socket. Kept moving it a few times a week. I got it loose enough that it moved freely. Go to tool kit and get needle-nose pliers. Five minutes of moving it and pulled straight down and it came out. Bleeding a bunch, rinsed mouth with salt water for a few minutes and then stuck a small bit of cotton soaked in clove oil in the socket. Repeated clove oil cotton ball thing for a few days and chewed food on opposite side of mouth. Eventually socket healed. I know that a DIY extraction isn't ideal, overly hygienic or recommended by any dental professional.

>>1491167
A (possibly) important thing, if a tooth is rotted from the TOP, the infection is exposed to the mouth, and only occurs up there. If the tooth rot hits the *bottom* it can easily get into your jaw and kill you. That's the impression I got, as I had a tooth that rotted for years, and when they checked I had no infection.

Dentist I had was great, got that sucker out no problem.

Honestly the dentist wasn't that expensive, even without insurance (might've been like $100 without insurance at most for the extraction). What was far more expensive was getting the tooth replaced. A bridge would've been cheaper but only cosmetic, a full implant cost 2500-$3k (I forget) for post and installation. Way more expensive than it should've been.

>>1488199
just fly to country where cavity are like 20 dollars.

>>1491168
Dentist schmentist...a real /diy/ guy like me does his own @home dentistry...ezpz, and I already own the side cutters I need to pull any of my teeth...

>>1488177
the quintessential American thread
Home of the overpriced medicare
Land of DIY surgery

>>1489140
You really should stop believing your r grandparents stupid stories like this, and in an East eurofag as well. There are a lot more simpler solutions to this problem than electrocuting your face

>had a bad toothache a few years ago
>didn't want to pay for the dentist
>not even expensive here, I am just tight fisted
>grandmother told me a 'traditional cure' for toothache
>apparently they used to take stinging nettles, soak them in vinegar
>then they put baking soda on their tooth for 20 minutes before chewing the nettle (the vinegar apparently removed the sting)
>theory was that the baking soda 'draws the nerve out of the tooth because nerves are like earthworms that come to the surface if they fear being suffocated' and the nettle tenderises the nerve
>tried it
>stung the inside of my mouth really bad
>couldn't eat for a day

fuck DIY healthcare

>>1488177
>Needed a root canal
>Not paying good money to a failed doctor
>Set up in own home with mirror
>Local anaesthetic block
>Expertly drill own teeth with power drill without dieing
>Fill with blutac or whatever
>Wake the next morning and realised I'd done the wrong tooth

>>1492059
You need to blanch nettles to get the sting out of them. I don't think just putting vinegar on them would do anything to help

My Dad once made his own fillings out of jb weld. I guess it expanded and cracked his tooth all to pieces.

>>1494806

I was happy to lose all my teeth
made my tongue 2 inches longer

How do I remove the hard plaque from the backside of my bottom incisors? I do a lot of outdoor labor and have constant dry mouth and it dries the plaque on my teeth. Dentist cleans it up well by scraping it with a pick but daily brushing, flossing, mouthwash only slows the progression and 6months later the dentist has to scrape it off again. I don’t eat much sugar in general. Bought a $150 super electric toothbrush and it whitened my teeth but the thing is so straight it’s hard to get the back of my front teeth. Should I get a set of dental picks and scrape it off myself?

I honestly think that people should learn medicine at home.

>>1494959
There was a good mega on /pol/ but I lost it

The only shit that works is preventative. Chew gum, xylitol and recaldent types. The former kills bacteria and the latter maintains your enamel.

Brush every surface. This means taking much longer than the reccomended 2 mins. You have to go over each surface multiple times with the brush held at different angles and moving in different directions, especially if you have deep crevasses. You don't need to floss for as long (but still need to) if you do this since you can get between the teeth a little. And don't brush til a bit after eating.

Anecdotal: Eat fermented and "live" food like yogurt and raw honey. I noticed I have less tendency for my mouth and tongue to get cruddy when I do. I think the bacteria/yeasts compete with the ones that normally occur in the mouth/throat but I am not a biologist so make your own decisions.

Investing in some basic dental cleaning tools and a good mirror setup might be a good idea so you can scrape and polish stubborn plaque that comes up. But you have to be accurate and sterilize them well. Don't get a dental drill unless you plan to use it for crafts and not people's/your own teeth.

>>1489140
Bosnian grandma told tales of pulling her own teeth out when she had a tooth ache with pliers. Apparently it was standard, they only had enough money to buy oil for the lamps

>>1492059
>theory was that the baking soda 'draws the nerve out of the tooth because nerves are like earthworms that come to the surface if they fear being suffocated' and the nettle tenderises the nerve

I am a DDS. I'll check back here later if you ask questions.

>>1495176
Sorry, we only listen to DMDs here.

Well my dad tried it, cuz he had the toughguy "i dont need no doctor" attitude. He got shitfaced drunk an pulled out his tooth. THE WRONG FUCKING ONE. It also bled like shit, most likely due to his alcohol level.
So yea. Home stitching a wound that is nit thag serious is fine, but dont do stupid shit that could be permanent. Dentistry is a highly specialized medical branch, with years upon years of learning of learning.

>>1495186
rutgers trash

>>1491263
Dentistry is quite cheap in the states. Not much worse than having a mechanic repair your car.

>>1492050
>You really should stop believing your grandparents stupid stories

And start believing smart American stories printed between glossy covers!

>>1495176
I'm getting a crown over a root canal'd tooth that died due to getting smacked in the face. Anything I should know?

My dentist also said I have "huge canals" in my teeth when he did it, does that mean anything?

>>1495681
I assume it's a maxillary central. If it's any esthetic tooth, make sure he does an all-ceramic crown. At this point most dentists will do all-ceramic for most things but who knows where you are and how old-school your dentist is. You want Emax or or similar as opposed to a porcelain with metal crown. Since the tooth-crown interface makes a "margin" you can't slack on your brushing and flossing. Keep that shit clean because i want it to last decades. Maxillary centrals also have big canals in general, that's normal. If the injury happened recently then the root was fully formed. If it happened when you were a kid, the root may have been blunted. If you love your teeth then make sure to monitor the ones involved in the trauma and check for "resorption" (internal, external, invasive cervical, ankylosis). Any teeth that were avulsed and replanted will be high risk for ankylosis.

pic unrelated, but it's from the cover article of last month's J.O.E. and was cool. included to at least show i'm actually a dentist.

>>1495697
I just had three crowns put in at once, two to replace old stainless steel crowns and one on a wore down tooth. The one all the way in the back was high and I told them it was high but they told me to wait until I wasn't numb anymore. I woke up with throbbing pain two nights in a row and went back and they took it down. They keep saying I don't need a root canal, but the pain hasn't gone away, just been taking ibuprofen all week.
Can they be sure I don't need a root canal or are they just bullshitting because they should have done one before replacing the crown? I didn't have any pain or issues with the stainless steel crowns, they just said it was not good 'standard of care' and would make my gums recede. Is that bullshit?

>>1495715
Sucks that the occlusion was high to start. That will cause pain but the pain hasn't gone away now I see. It's possible that they prepped the tooth close to the nerve (out of necessity) and you developed irreversible pulpitis. If that's the case you need root canal therapy (through the brand new crown). Stainless steel crowns in general have poor "margins" and that overhang can indeed cause localized boneloss and gingival recession. Sometimes we do "prophylactic" root canal therapy if we are worried about proximity to pulp or if we need to place a post for retention. If the pain goes away after extended period of constant pain that might also not be good, as it indicate pulp necrosis (not healing). Have them do a vitality test if that occurs. If the pain doesn't go away you need RCT. What you are supposed to do as a practitioner if you have concerns about pulpitis is place the temporary crown for a few weeks and see if you remain asymptomatic.

>>1495728
That's bad news, I have to work in a remote location for a few months in about a week

>>1495732
best to get it done before then. cheapest place i could recommend would be a endodontist resident at a dental school (not a dental student). Otherwise you'll be out well over 1000 bucks.

>>1495738
Oh I've got the money, but sometimes root canals fail I understand, and I'd rather not have that going on.

>>1495740
The majority of root canal failures have to do with poor coronal restorations or aggressive placement of posts (leading to root fractures). Otherwise proper root canal therapy is highly successful (when fully restored with a full coverage restoration in a timely manner). If the dentist will meet you in the middle and pay for a new crown that would be a great compromise. Otherwise you are damaging your new crown just to access the canal.

Knocked a tooth loose when I broke my jaw. When I got out hospital I yanked it with pliers and went on with my day.

>>1495176
Ignoring the upfront cost, how viable would it be to get all my teeth replaced with titanium implants for a full on rotless robojaw?

>>1488809
This is only partialy true. Once it is deep enough there is no way of stopping it.

>>1488199
Also when severe you just need to drain the abcess by stabbing into the jaw bone. The puss will drain out and heal. This however is kinda pointless as long as the hole in the tooth is not fixed because it will just get infected all over again but it will reduce the pain intantly. If you don't feel like doing that you can wait for the periost to burst on its own but it will just seep into the tissue around it and swell your face like crazy. It will also be painfull.

If you have a family member that is ok with this and is good with needles you can ask them to sew a wick into the wound, this keeps it open and lets leftover puss drain out over the next days while it heals.

I pulled 3/4 of a tooth out with some pliers, its a bitch of a job. Didn't have the nerve to cut a slice in my gum to remove the other 1/4 so left it in there.
Had the rest removed several years later when I had healthcare insurance, took two of them to prize it out with some clamps and stuff, I wouldnt have managed.
Removed a mole with some nail clippers, dug a wart out of my finger and popped a hemorrhoid.
I should convert my rape van into a mobile medical unit but Im not sure what size battery I need with a 120amp solar panel.....

>>1496507
As a dentist my experience is that no one without severe periodontal disease has ever been able to remove an entire tooth by themselves. People are used to how teeth come out when they lose a primary tooth and imagine that not much holds them in. As in your case the root tips remain and must be extracted later.

>>1489140
>a fourth soldier pushed the launch button.
So grandpa Ivan had his tooth fixed but that small Romanian village will never be the same...

>>1494950
Try sandpaper

>>1494950
https://www.amazon.com/Osung-LSU15-33-Dental-Anterior-Jacquette/dp/B002Z6GW4K

Dentist here. Get one of these. A scaler for your anterior teeth. I use one all the time on myself, specifically this one.

>>1495924
the teeth might not rot but your gums would still get fucked up. also big risk for infection / fuck ups if you do all of em

>>1495924
Call “ortho” patient
Call patient’s GP.

>>1495924
Dentist here: I've heard this before form people. Under no circumstance do you ever want to replace all your teeth with implants this is not viable. Anything in your mouth other than teeth will be MORE difficult to maintain than teeth. With implants and bad hygiene, you will end up with the equivalent of periodontal disease but around your implants. You would also have no sense of pressure with implants, causing you to clench with many times the force of a healthy bite. In general people who lose all their teeth and want implants get an "all on 4" fixed denture that is supported by 4 implants. Implants are great to restore "edentulous" areas. No dentist would recommend 30+. The most I have ever seen is 16, with bridges. Like a car you need to maintain them, floss and clean even as or more carefully than teeth. I don't want to get into the technical parts about getting your gums to look natural with implants because it's hours of lectures worth of info. And then there is the issue of poorly placed implants, etc.

>>1495924
>>1495924
Dentist here: I've heard this before form people. Under no circumstance do you ever want to replace all your teeth with implants this is not viable. Anything in your mouth other than teeth will be MORE difficult to maintain than teeth. With implants and bad hygiene, you will end up with the equivalent of periodontal disease but around your implants. You would also have no sense of pressure with implants, causing you to clench with many times the force of a healthy bite. In general people who lose all their teeth and want implants get an "all on 4" fixed denture that is supported by 4 implants. Implants are great to restore "edentulous" areas. No dentist would recommend 30+. The most I have ever seen is 16, with bridges. Like a car you need to maintain them, floss and clean even as or more carefully than teeth. I don't want to get into the technical parts about getting your gums to look natural with implants because it's hours of lectures worth of info. And then there is the issue of poorly placed implants, etc.

>>1496507
>popped a hemorrhoid.
pls more info on that
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