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My grandma has this 61 year old Sears fridge which has a weird issue of constantly freeze-thawing the top half resulting in ice buildup. The fridge part works fine and keeps food cold. Should we just junk it? The elec. company will give her a $40 bill credit to take it away. Should I bother looking for some retro buyer? The schematic is on the back and I couldn't seem to find a way to regulate the freezer thermostat on-off.

>> No.1411925
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>>1411923
and the schematic

>> No.1411935

>>1411923
put it on a meter (kill-o-watt, etc) -
when you see how much that old bastard (the fridge, not, oh nevermind) been costing you the last few decades, you'll happily pay Mexicans $400 to cart it off on vacation to Tijuana.

>> No.1411936

These predate automatic defrost or “frost free” refrigerators. You have to periodically manually remove the ice build up. One of the better old time hacks for this was to plug the unit into a timer that would turn it off for long enough to melt the ice at regular intervals.. you can probably use an outdoor light timer to do this.. probably have to tinker with it to get it right, but maybe turning off for an hour every 8 hours would be enough...

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>>1411935
I wonder how bad it could be
>>1411936
Now that makes sense by she swears it was never like that. She's convinced it going to break any minute now and wants to junk it asap. funny enough the way she deals with the frost is doing exactly what you say, she unplugs it every so often to clear and drain the ice and water.

>> No.1411978

>>1411937
it probably frosts up more now because the seals are all going bad, letting moist air in.

honestly, this is hipster gold, but it needs restoring.

>> No.1411981

>>1411935
This.

A new fridge will pay for itself in a couple of years from reduced electricity bills.
Junk it (responsibly).

>> No.1411982

>>1411923
Thats how its supposed to work.

>> No.1412070

>>1411923
My parents have one of those old bastards in their basement. Looks like the same model.
Junk the fucker, desu.

>> No.1412074

Oh yeah had to empty them out and put pots of boiling water in the freezer then dislodge the ice with a butter knife....ahh the good ole days

>> No.1412087

Not OP but what to look for in a decent fridge these days. Mines got issues and its done about half a century or more.

Its door sealing problems and icing up fast. I'm holding it closed with a tie down strap at present.

I did read some guys on another forum doing fridge mods with extra insulation in the form of polystyrene sheet held on with embedded magnets. They claimed significant efficiency gains.

>> No.1412089

depending on one's skills, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to strip down the old fridge, replace the mechanical shit with that from a modern one, even a used one from a thrift store type thing, and make it efficient enough to function like a new one while retaining the character of an old one

>> No.1412090

>>1412089
>I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to strip down the old fridge,

this is the worst hipster idea I've heard in a long time. The refrigeration coils and defroster heater would require you to basically build the entire insides to fit inside the hipster exterior.

>> No.1412156

>>1412090
Not that guy, but restoring classic stuff isn't hipster. They may like old shit, but they like to BUY old restored shit at retarded prices because muh recycling and muh supporting local trade.

With that said, it wouldn't be too hard to get a universal setup and make a one if you already have hvac stuff.

>> No.1412162

>>1411936
>>1412074
Wait what, there are freezers that dont accumulate ice? I defrost mine every year or so and figured that's just how it is

>> No.1412165

>>1412156
>>1412089

I mean they make "retro" fridges these days but they cost $2500-3000 bucks.

>> No.1412204

>>1412162
Frost free freezers have been around for decades unless you go out and buy the shittiest fridge on purpose.

>> No.1412233

>>1412162
Yeah it's standard. There's a heating element and fan controlled by a thermostat and timer, with a drain for the melted ice going to a pan at the bottom of the fridge where it evaporates.

How old is your fridge?

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>>1411923
its also missing its handle (since the 70s i think) so we just pull it from the top corner. the suction plastic liner seems to still be pretty firm

>> No.1412247

>>1412089
It's not just a matter of straight swapping out the parts. Sure, you could put a new compressor in and probably save a fair amount of energy but if you need to replace the coils you are fucked. You'd have to make them from scratch because no one will make any that will fit in the old unit.

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>>1412236
the back

>> No.1412264

>>1411923
Location?
Im looking for one like this.

>> No.1412267

>>1412264
>Location?
>Im looking for one like this.

Hopefully not to actually use as a fridge. Or if so, I have a 53 flat-head Buick for sale that would go perfectly.

>> No.1412274

>>1412267
Considering I repair/fabricate refrigeration systems for the Navy, this is a nice project to "upgrade".
Anywhere near Augusta Georgia?

>> No.1412281

>>1411923
3.5 amp * 115 v = 402.5 watts.

This would be close to ~$350 per year in electricity.

Given the ancient state, that's probably what it normally uses. Modern fridge uses half that amount ~200w. So ~$150 per year in electricity cost. You save $150 per year to switch to a modern fridge.

Suppose you buy a $300 modern refridgerator. The fridge pays for itself in 2 years.

>> No.1412288

>>1411923
I'd say just keep it and clean the freezerbox every 7-10 days.

I have a recent fridge (less than 10 years old) with the same problem. I use a phon to detach the ice crust (probably you'll be ok with a hot air pistol as well).

That 61yo fridge will outlive both you and your family. Recent fridges wreck in a few years

>> No.1412313

Years ago my grandma had one of those ancient chest freezers (I'm pretty sure it used ammonia has a coolant) and the electrical company actually gave her a rebate in the amount of a new unit. This was like 15 years ago so not sure of the details, we only found out about it because an aunt worked for them and knew of it, it was unpublished.

It was either because it was so old, dangerous, or because my grandma was a senior citizen living off social security (they have special rates and rebates for elderly and poor for heat and power here).

>> No.1412315

>>1412281
Not sure how accurate the energy star labels really are but for a small non-compact fridge (assuming she is living alone or with another person) costs about $50/year to run.

>> No.1412327

>>1412315
add 50% to the cost. The energy star labels are "lab tested" in perfect conditions.

>> No.1412331

>>1412313
She mentioned it once to me that the electric company would pay or credit you to take away your old stuff. She's been on SS for a while and I think her utilities costs are either frozen or seriously reduced. She's more concerned that one day it will just blow up, rather than the cost of running it all the time (for 60 years)

>> No.1412345

>>1412274
I'm just gonna bump for this guy cause i wanna see a love connection

>> No.1412347

>>1412274
OP here i'm in the chicagoland area sorry about that

>> No.1412351

>>1411923
Pics of granny.

>> No.1412355

>>1412331
..when been running for the last 60 years, aint gonna suddenly blow up now. Be surprised it didn't outlast gramma, who appears to survive on a diet of Diet Pepsi.

The problem is not so much the label-stated juice use, the 3.3A will be maximum, but a non-optimal thermostat and leaks will ensure, it runs way ofter than necessary. The thermostat should switch the compressor on/off and keep fridge at optimum temperature, also, stop it freezing over. Where thermo fucked, compressor runs max constantly, or old seals (rubber seal hardens/cracks/deforms, cold air escapes). Newer model also way more efficient in general - has been some progress in fridge design last 60 years or so.

The problem with modding them, that compressor/coils is a sealed system that will create a localised hole in the ozone layer when breached and turn your hood into a mini middle Australia. Most civilized places, draining these yourself be illegal af, but, presume Murica, YMMV.. but better disposing of properly. No, really.

tldr, $40 4 that POS sounds good to me. Gramma can jis drink warm Pepsi, like back in the good ole days.

>> No.1412361

>>1412347
Dam. I flew into Indianapolis last week. Now I wish I would have driven, I could have swung by.

>> No.1412365
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>>1412361
its probably better that way. she's real paranoid about strangers in her house and you'd have to get it out of the basement somehow.

>>1412355
she just worries alot. she also worries her AC fan will break in the middle of the summer so she keeps the temp at 78 so the unit only runs for 5 minutes at a time.

Is there a way to bypass the freezer half so the fridge stays cold but the it doesnt ice up the freezer? She only uses it for extra storage now, we got a modern fridge in the kitchen already.

>> No.1412375

>>1412365
Got some non-Euclidean geometry going on between the stove and the fridge, I see.

>> No.1412379

>>1412375
it was a different time

>> No.1412394

>>1412365
Grandma's house clearly has bigger problems than what to do with an old fridge

>> No.1412963

>>1412365
fuckin photomerge man

>> No.1413038

>>1412365
Maybe get her a mini fridge... and just let the old one there (to be dealt with after she passes).

>> No.1413512

>>1413038
for being an old lady shes really agressive with tossing out stuff the second it shows signs of acting up. she had a 50 yr old cabinet that had a loose door hinge and rust and she was going to throw it out that day but all i had to do was fix the hinge and rust and suddenly she loved it again

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1413540

Ice buildup is fine bro

>> No.1413541

>>1413540
Except it builds up on the freezer door panel and all down the front. I dont have a picture atm but its not just the frost around the tray too, its like it condensates over the panel and freezes. personally i think its fine and the fridge should stay but she gets so worried about everything

>> No.1413550

>>1413541
why do people like you looking for validation ask questions here every one has said either sell it to some hipster or junk it itll pay for its self in energy saved to get a new one. but you keep trying to fucking fix it when it is saving ypu money just to junk it.

>> No.1413600

>>1413512
Oh OK, I was just going with the statement that she doesn’t want strangers in the house... but still a mini fridge should suffice for a case of drinks or two.

>> No.1413674

>>1412365
Serious cabinet porn there!

>> No.1413757
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>>1413674
simple and effective metal Crane cabinets

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Leave it around the neighborhood. Some kids can have fun playing hide and seek with it.

>> No.1414571

>>1411923
KEG GORE RATE OR

>> No.1414593

>>1411925
>that diagram

The 50s were fucking magical
Bro see if you can suck out the last drops of r12 or whatever the fuxk is in there and sell it for top dollar

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>>1414447

>> No.1415242

>>1411923
old is gold

>> No.1415258

>>1411981
>A new fridge will pay for itself in a couple of years from reduced electricity bills.
No it fucking wont.

>> No.1415327

>>1412355

>when been running for the last 60 years, aint gonna suddenly blow up now.

Try telling that to an old lady that watches too much news and when ever you go by her you get the hottest updates on all the bad stuff that can happen if you dare to do anything.

>> No.1415340

>>1411923
probably low on r12. sell it

>> No.1415953

>>1411923
Lol all these people in the thread saying get a new 1000$ fridge that will go bad once its put of its 2 year warranty
Just fix it. You'll never get a fridge that will last that long and the new fridges have closed cooling systems that are non user serviceable.

The longevity of that fridge had paid for anyex extra electricity costs

>> No.1415960

>>1411923
Make a small battery operated fan to circulate the air inside the fridge.

It will help with the "freezing" but not eliminate it entirely.
You will never eliminate it, since that fridge predates "frost free" reefers.

Otherwise, if the seal is still good and it still works, keep it. Those old reefers are absurdly robust and reliable.

>> No.1415977

>>1411925
When fridges obviously work like that still in principle, while they bother with circuit boards and active electronics on modern fridges?

It seems like they add complexity for no real reason other than planned obsolescence.

I could be wrong though, and fridges might still be purely electromechanical still.

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>>1415977
Looks like they still have a simple design. At least the cheap ones.

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OP here, question about the compressor unit, there are these solid metal "wires" coming off he back of it that just seem to wrap and go nowhere, are they heat dissapators?

>> No.1416103

>>1416079

those are used to add the shot of black and then they are sealed off.

>> No.1416152

>>1416079
They're used for purging.

>> No.1416179

>>1416103
>>1416152
thanks guys. I'm seeing her tomorrow to convince her the fridge it fine. it just needs some cleanup

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>>1416179
good news shes going to keep it after all. so i repainted the scratched off letters for her

>> No.1417813

>>1411923
>61 year old Sears fridge
>Should we just junk it?
THAT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM !

>> No.1417829

>>1417813
This.

Old Sears fridges are masterpieces of design but they are shite when it comes to power efficiency. She could replace her fridge with a new model and literally pay for it in power savings in the first year. And it will make less noise. And it won't frost her food solid.

>> No.1417850

>>1411923
>ice buildup in a 60 year old fridge

I thought that was normal.

>> No.1417866

>>1411923
I have a similar age GM fridge in the garage I use as a beer fridge, thing is a fucking tank. When it finally dies on you turn it into a meat smoker.

>> No.1418692

>>1417850
the issue is that the ice is building on the OUTSIDE of the freezer door, and it melts and drops down and creates rust and icicles. afaik, even those early models the ice should just build up on the inside. maybe the rubber door seal is finally shot.

>> No.1418694

>>1418692
>>1411978

ya think?

>> No.1418709

>>1415978
Doesn't have auto defrost.

>> No.1418816

>>1415960
underrated post, this.
your man here just upgraded Grammas fridge to current 'frost-free' spec. Thats 60 years of advances in fridge design and development dealt with in a stroke. They added a fan. Still, its more convenient than waiting on the horse-drawn ice waggon delivery, ah spose.

>> No.1418836

>>1418816
There's a heating element and a timer involved in "frost free" (yes, modern reefers have a heating element in the freezer area under the coils). But some kind of fan will help alleviate frosting .

>> No.1418838

>>1417813
>THAT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM !
You should use your wealth to provide such a museum....or you should fuck off.

>> No.1420636

>>1418694
hipsters would gladly pay more than the electric company for that shit, even in current working order.
Clean it up and list it on craigslist, bet it sells in under 24 hours.

>> No.1420653

>>1412375
>>1412379
Underrated

>> No.1420717

Ok guys last question I swear then I'll leave this thread alone.

The original finish was that shiny white "enamel" coating you see on alot of appliances. She's painted over it 5 times with a variety of oil and latex paints. the current coat is an ugly flat tan with brush strokes everywhere. If I wanted to paint this properly once and for all, what's the best way to do it?

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>>1420717
pic related

>> No.1420835

>>1411923
That fridge is working perfectly they way they worked back then. IT will probably continue working for another 40 years.

yes it uses lots of electricity, yes it has to be defrosted, yes it, is still better quality than anything made today.

>> No.1420836

>>1412281
>$300 modern refridgerator.
that would be one crappy fridge for $300.

>> No.1420890

>>1411923
Buy your grandma a new fridge, her electric bill will thank you

>> No.1421256

>>1420836
I'm not a refrigerator pro.

But wouldn't a refrigerator only consume significant power when the compressor is active?

If the fridge have good isolation, it shouldn't need to be run on full effect all day.

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>>1411923
>mfw 80 posts and nobody here told OP to let fridge upside-down a whole night (unplugged) like it was common back then when you just bought a new fridge.
tl,dr; Do it.
It helps good old Freon to escape from places where it might have been clogged for ages, and form a mother fucking cloud (the kind that fuck ozone layer) right in the compressor, as Freon is lighter than air and lubricant.

>>1420717
>>1420720
First try if upside-down procedure above give results. If so, then it's time to give this old dude a favor and do a relevant restoration : wash it with oven-cleaning spray to get ride of most filth,then get paint remover and apply it on the whole door except on the letters (they might be dissolved).
Then two options :
1*/ shitty paint goes off, and you have proper enamel back, maybe a bit whiter because paint remover got some crap off with old paint. Put two layers of plastic coating, and you are done.
2*/ shitty paint goes off, and enamel too. Very unlikely because enamel is usually strong as fuck, but as we are talking about cold-war era enamel, there might be some rust behind it that would have fucked it anyway soon or later. If so, sand the whole door, and use glossy white car paint to make it great again.

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>>1421275
Thanks for the advice, not sure how i'd flip this yet but I'll figure it out. As for the paint, it has rusted on the lower edge probably due to years of mopping and spilled liquids, but I'd imagine the body overall is pretty intact. Is it okay to use the gel bubbly paint remover? im worried the scraper will dig into the enamel.

also for the rest of the thread, I took the inside door off yesterday to get to the rubber seal that was caked with old paint and dirt. This is what it looks like behind the fiberglass/plastic inside liner

>> No.1421438

Do not flip it over...

>> No.1422101

>>1421438
will it make mustard gas?

>> No.1422462

>>1422101
it will make mustard cold

>> No.1422466

>>1422101
Actually yes, this is the only time this is true. Freon exposed to an open flame it is in fact turned into mustard gas.

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>>1422466
Bullshit.
Freon isn't flammable : I remember using aerosols for cleaning live electronics, mostly pots. That was back in the 90's and all their glory : Freon everywhere, trichloroethylene available in every shop, pure alcohol and chloroform available courtesy of pharmacist.

Instead of naming gas like the jew you are, you should better advise OP about asbestos that's in the door, and how quickly he get rid of it using full fallout suit.

>> No.1422493

>>1422488
NEVER expose CFC‐12 to open flames or hot glowing surfaces. At high temperatures, R‐12 will form Hydrochloric acid, Hydrofluoric acid, and Phosgene gas.

>> No.1422499

>>1411923
The thermostat is likely a carefully tuned strip of alloyed metal that coils and uncoils at specific temperatures, and in effect completes or breaks the circuit for a given temperature.

This is more then likely whats causing the strange cycling behaviour, or going to far to each extreme.

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>>1422493
>Phosgene gas
Phosgene gas ain't Mustard gas. Those are completely different beasts.

also flipping a fridge upside-down, unplugged, doesn't create open flames in any matter, so phosgene-related risk are pointless

>> No.1422505

>>1422503
You have zero idea what’s in OP’s basement. He could damage a coil, cause a leak, hot water heater kills everyone.

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>>1422505
How ?
By letting a fridge upside-down a whole night ?
By painting an old fridge ?

Are you fucking aware that certain modern cars have their aircon systems charged with mother fucking propane ?

Now listen here (((Pr. Einstein))), OP asked if he can use some gel paint remover to get rid of old paint without messing with enamel. As you are /diy/ best chemist around this thread tell him what's best to do.

>> No.1422512 [DELETED] 

>>1422510
Are you the idiot that told him to flip it? The thing that’s done for everything fridges and not applicable here?

>> No.1422513

Are you the idiot that told him to flip it? The thing that’s done for RV fridges and not applicable here?

>> No.1422517

>>1422513
Kek you have no fridge knowledge, neither paint removal one obviously.
Get he fuck off of this thread boomer, there are gentlemen working on relevant issues here.

>> No.1422519

>>1422517
You don’t burp this type of fridge.

>> No.1422520

>>1422517
Shouldn’t you be spitting your chew?

>> No.1422523

>>1412281
It’s not that clear cut, Ops fridge probably has about a 50% run time so cut your per year cost in half, and modern compressors are more efficient but usually have closer to 80-90% runtime since starting a compressor takes more power than keeping a small one on...

>> No.1422524

>>1412162
Chest freezers usually aren’t. If it’s an upright then their are two styles, one is frost free and has a fan, the other uses the evaporator tubing as part of the wire shelves and is not frost free.

>> No.1422533

>>1421356
Try some rubbing alcohol and see if the paint softens enough to use a credit card to scrape it off.

>> No.1422985

>>1422499
would it be possible to just buy a new thermostat?

>>1422533
the outer layer is latex but i know for sure there's at least 3 layers under that that are oil based and probably lead paint from the 60s-80s see >>1411925 (green, pink, yellow, tan)

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>>1421275
Do these spray cans of kitchen appliance paint work well?

>> No.1423755

>>1423749
>spray epoxy
yikes

>> No.1423997

>>1411923
baking soda

>> No.1424001

>>1421356
Gross

>> No.1424006

>>1423749

I used that on an old rusty outdoor fridge someone gave me that I put in my garage. Used acid to get rid of the surface rust and washed and dried it and hit it with a can of that.

Looks practically new, just take the time to cover hinges and whatnot.

>> No.1424008

>>1411923

Imagine that the thing is empty but on. You never open the door. In one month how much ice should have built up? Either you guys are opening it up all the time or leaving it open allowing water/vapor to enter, or you have an air leak.

I’d try to replace the seal around the door. Ice will only build up due to moisture, which can only come from the food or the air that enter when you open it. If the fridge is rarely opened and ice still builds up a lot, then there is an air leak.

>> No.1424163

>>1424008
I'm gonna buy some foam adhesive stripping and put it around the top edge of the door to see if that helps. since the handle has been broken for 30+ years the only way to open the door is to grab the top corner and pull hard, so the leak probably started from there

>> No.1424180

>>1411935
>not buying a new deep freeze, throwing it out back for a giant party cooler, and using the guts to make that old bird brand new again.

Kegerator/10 at the very least

>> No.1424181

>>1412087

My only qualifications was a mutherfucking ice maker and water in the door. Like treefiddy on sale at lowes

>> No.1424185

>>1412090
Horseshit anon. Just put it 2 inches off the ground or move it another inch from the wall.

I have done it and am working on another. Making beer fridges brand new for hipsters is EASY money.

I do have an hvac bro to remove freon, and refil after sealing any moved coils

>> No.1424187

>>1412162
Kek. Yeah bro. Mine built up ice after 6 years daily use. The defrost element burnt out and i just plugged another one in. No ice for 4 years.

>> No.1424188

>>1412165
Kek. I start at $4,000 and will negotiate to $3,200...

>> No.1424190

>>1412315
Energy Star is a fucking meme. I used to sell windows and they were energy star rated.

...glass is the worst insulator and the single biggest heat and air loss in your home. Even triple pane $1,000 a hole windows...

>> No.1424192

>>1412361
Kek, then you could have stopped at the Flying J there. Biggest hooker hub in Burgerland. And i have been to every major truckstop on the interstate probably

>> No.1424194

>>1412365
Fill the freezer with water bottles and ziplock bags after lining it eith foam isulation. Keep it full and it will be nearly as efficient as only running the fridge. The fridge runs via fan off the freezer. Let it ice uo all u want after that as long as the air vents are clear

>> No.1424196

>>1412394
Like what?

>> No.1424197

>>1413550
Because its cool as fuck.

You are probably one of those cocksuckers that would blow up a 72 chevelle and toss it in a fill hole on some pasture.

Some of us like cool old shit. Kys

>> No.1424199

>>1412236
Acropolis in the background

>> No.1424200

>>1424163

Do all the way around. That stuff is cheap. Doing that and fixing the handle is probably all you have to do.

I might use some muriatic acid to clean up surface rust and paint it to prevent future rust, but that’s only if you can be out of a fridge for a 2-3 days and if you have the proper safety stuff and setup to deal with acid and paint.

>> No.1424201

>>1413757
Ayyy lmao. I just bought a house with metal cabinets

>> No.1424208

>>1415977
I think youre right. You had the dash out of a newer car lately? Fucking 600 pounds of copper wire...

>> No.1424212

>>1416079
>booyah?

https://www.searspartsdirect.com/part-number/5304476642/0046/253.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=5304476642&sid=SPDxGPROD&k_clickID=80f30230-7c56-4781-a7c2-5e76ec6db997&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzZ279d6Z3AIVCz1pCh291wVGEAQYASABEgJr5fD_BwE

>> No.1424213
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>>1416079

>> No.1424214

>>1411923
Just buy a mini fridge, fill it full of water bottles besides the air vents, poke a hole in the side and dryer hose vent it to the fridge.

>> No.1424215

>>1417866
Genious

>> No.1424217

>>1418816
Kek. My bro took us on a tour of his grandmas old place. It was a brick mansion overlooking a brick plant. Place was fucking massive. They keep it in the family and for some reason just leave it. Honest to shit it looks like someone from about the 20s or 30s just got up and left one day. There is even a big ice tongs hanging next to a box...

>> No.1424220

>>1418838
Or you should suck fat fucking dicks.

I have a 50+ year old fridge. Loaned it to an antique shop and hauled it for free. They sell cans of pop for $1 and candybars and give me $0.25 each. During the summer i get like $50 a month for doing fuckall. Maybe $20-$25.

Using the money to update more fridges and market to antique shops.

$20+ a month doesn't seem like much, but 10 or 20 of the. Would cover repairs and still give me $100+ a month.

So suckit

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>>1424201
Those old metal ones are good BUT they rust out easy as fuck. Under the sink the metal liner is pretty rusted so she put vinyl tile down over the bottom so when the sink drips or somethings spills it doesnt fuck up completely.

>> No.1424223

>>1420717
Paint stripper. Scrub it off, clean it, get a mask and krylon the bitch. Wait a month or two and krylon clear it. Just tape up cardboard or plastic and do it where is sits

>> No.1424224

>>1420836
Shit. Mine is 10 years old and treefiddy. Works just fine

>> No.1424225

>>1421275
This guy gets it! I didnt know about upside down fridge. Going to google because that would be a good troll. But i thank you or congratulations you got me.

>> No.1424228

>>1422466
KEK

>> No.1424230

>>1424163
You can buy rolles of new frige stripping and glue it around the door bro...

>> No.1424231

>>1424222
Good call. Mine are painted but time will tell.

The wife is already talking about gutting the fucking kitchen to keep up with the joneses...

Oh well, nothing wrong with having a nice place i guess. And those would work great in the shop.

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>>1424231
metal cabinets are goofd stuff. my grandma has been trying to replace hers for years but i talked her out of it. the paint was a little rusty so she immediately thought it was time to junk them, so i rapainted each door and drawer with a fresh coat and now shes happy again
(tldr if it looks nice to her she'll keep it, if it gets a dent or rust or a crack she wants to toss it. why? idk man)

>> No.1424242

>>1424241
Wife is the same way bro. She didnt notice a massive dent and a drawer that wont open. I'll fix it before she sees ot hopefully. Lol

>> No.1424280

>>1424213
>>1424212
>>1416079

nice find! whats spooky is that if you type in "unit 41883" into google. that picture comes up in the search even though I never once mentioned the model number until this moment lol

>> No.1424285

>>1424230
>>1421356
>>1424008

i forgot to mention earlier. last week when i took the door apart to clean the rubber liner, i discovered theres NO SUCTION from the liner whatsoover, like new fridges have. basically theres a latch that closes when you close the door, and simply by pulling on the door (with the handle or otherwise) opens the spring and opens the door. this could be intentional or the rubber could just be too stiff on the edge to make a suction anymore. so yes. either buying a new rubber suction strip, putting foam liner on, or tighening the latch distance could make a big difference. I'll let you know on Sunday whne Im back there again

>> No.1424306

>>1424285
It's how they did it back un the day. Push hard or slam it. 61 years of door slamming. Damne them things are tough. Kek. You might be able to go with a few layers of magnet strip or just glue some rare earth magnets arou d it to help pull tight

>> No.1424309

>>1424280
Lol, looks like you arent alone buddy.

I might get my HVAC bros help. Build a smal compressor and wtf ever setup that sits on top of the fridge. Just stack small coils above it. Build a small insulated bracket that magnet mounts to the fridge and uses it for vent. Just close the door 4 inches short now. True plug and play 60s resto. Fucking $1,500

>> No.1425635

>>1424306
This fridge is a beast. I'm going to make sure it stays in the family until the day it stops running, which will probably be after im dead

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>>1424225
You're welcome.

Also about restoring the door, consider doing a full job.
1*/ Get rid of asbestos and use modern styrofoam instead for insulation
2*/ I won't be surprised if you were able to remove/unclip >>1420720 properly after asbestos removal, if it's metal based, consider re-chroming it, or at least polish it with good old toothpaste+elbow grease combo. Else look for plastic chroming tutorials.
3*/ Now that asbestos and Coldsport label are off, spill paint remover everywhere : there is no point trying to keep old paint anymore as rust has started cancering door.
4*/ when done, spray the whole door with rust-stopper/anti-rust, then paint it with off-white/ivory/absinthe(very light yellow-greenish tint, not sure how it's named in US) car paint. Painting an old fridge with modern white may look odd or out-of-time.
5*/ Fix door handle while paint dries. You may encounter a complete working one in junkyard, or look for a service manual detailing fixing of door handles. Also consider 3D printing if some parts are missing.
6*/ Replace rubber liner with modern/magnetic one, I won't be surprised a modern fridge's "replacement part" rubber actually fits this old dude.
7*/ optional, if upside-down doesn't give results, it might be time to look for a nice HVAC bro and having it re-gassed with R12 (on it's way to ban, but second-hand R12 is still around on canisters)
Alt-7*/ use pic-related (sorry French model, too lazy to look for US one) and set it up so power is cut 2h on the night : all the built-up ice will act like a capacitor, releasing all its cold into the fridge. Adjust timer until there is only a thin (3mm max) layer of ice building. I actually used this trick on a old dead-thermostat fridge I had in the Army, compressor rolled with 15min breaks every 1H15 from 8-17:00, then continuous till 22H (beer had to be cold), then 15min every 3h because compressor noisy as fuck and me needing to sleep. It has been 10 years now, and fridge is still fine :D

>> No.1426834

>>1425635
I know there are a few places that restore old appliances, check around as they may be able to sell you some reproduction door seal.

>> No.1427581

I think i fucked it up more last week when i took the door off and cleaned the stripping. The freezer leaks more water than it did before. Fuck. I even put some foam adhesive stripping around the door and it didnt make much of a difference

>> No.1427643

>>1411923
Fucking god damn fuck
Replace the door seals, quit being a pussy and just do it already. The refrigerant is probably r12, if you decide to crack it open, r290 r600 or "r12a" will be your friends. Just make up your mind already you absolute sòylent cunt.

>> No.1428155

>>1427643
why are you so mad? i like this thread. makes me feel like i have fridge repair friends

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>>1427643
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>> No.1428812

>>1412236
Youre either greek or italian.

>> No.1429114

>>1428812
how did you know i was greek

>> No.1429115

>>1429114
Perhaps the rendering of the acropolis gave it away...

>> No.1430524

>>1412281
I don't see this the more ice that gets built up in these old fridges the less they run and the new fridges run a defrost that turns a heater on that i bet pulls alot more then 3 amps for probably at least a half an hour once or twice a day

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>>1422499
Here's a pic of the thermostat

>> No.1431000

>>1415953
You can't just fix a fridge that old. At least in my country once you take the refrigerant out it's illegal to put it back in because it's ozone depleting so you'd need to find a drop-in refrigerant which might not work as efficiently in the old system.

>> No.1431007

>>1424190
Mate why the dick do you bring up glass if it's the gasses between that insulate? The biggest energy loss is not through the glass but through the frame around it.

>> No.1431303

>>1424241
dude fuck people like that
they ruin everything

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>>1430658
>230V D.C
wtf am I looking at ? I've been told US electric system is being degenerate because 115VAC/60Hz, and there have been 115DC in ancient times, but this 230VDC is new for me.

Was this fridge intended to be plugged in serie with an electric chair ?

>> No.1431712

>>1431000
>MFV cat deletes whole book worth of writing.

Anyway witch is worse to ozone? One old fridge that properly restored can be used 100 years if not more, or 20 (5years of use), 10 (10 years of use), or 15 (years of use) newer fridges that break along that same usage time and repair cost of those is way higher as you cant even access to some parts in never ones and everything is made thinner materials that easily break.

Restore the old one and get another 40years of use out of it. If done properly no emissions get leaked and effect on environment is way less than production and shipping emissions caused by never ones.

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>>1427643
>r290 r600 or "r12a" will be your friends
>picrelated.jpg
mfw

Right now desu I don't think there is any need to crack open the refrigering system, it's just a matter a worn out door seals and weird paint to be refreshed.

>> No.1432428

>>1431687
>>1430658
not really sure, i dont really deal with thermostats maybe its just listing its range?

>> No.1432661

>>1411923
>Should we just junk it?

No.

They make good nuke shelters.

New fridges are absolute garbage meant to last 4 years.

>> No.1432675

>>1431687
In india they don't know how to use a fucking standard. Everything is ranging from 220V-240V, and when you buy a "USA Transformer" it will either convert to 100V, 110V, or 120V.

>> No.1432727

>>1431687
Lots of electronic switches list an AC rating and a DC rating. No one actually uses 120V DC, that's just what the manufacture says CAN go through a switch.

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>>1412236
the handles were a safety issue. she probably had it removed to prevent your retarded parent from killing themselves. children had a habit of using the fridge as a cubby house. the handles tended to flip open upward. if a kid closed the door, the handle could fall down in the closed position with no way to open the fridge. when you went to open it you'd find a cold suffocated child inside.

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>>1432675
>In india
Nobody gives a shit about india...

>> No.1433234

>>1433209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvfyiOhLSF4

>> No.1433267

>>1411935
I own one of these old bastards. Right now im on vacation and killed every breaker in the house except the kitchen. Only the fridge and the clock on the stove are pulling power. Total cost per day $0.22 averaged of the past week of 95+ weather and im guessing around 82-85 inside temperatures.

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Guy who wanted to buy it here.


I found one ...

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>>1433271
bit of a pic dump.

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>>1433273
3 days. Stripped, rewired, purged, sealed, asbestos removed, re-insulated, epoxy coated.

Runs like a fucking champ and costs about 15 cents a day in power.

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>>1433274

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>>1433275
Last pic unless someone requests specifics.

>> No.1433281

>>1433277
What’s the compressor look like?

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>>1433281
I reused the compressor and put in r134a.

>Safely removed the r12 in a ecofriendly free range vegan LBGTQFUASHLO way.

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>>1433305
4 days of being turned on with a crap seal. It makes snow art.

>> No.1433475

>>1433274
>>1433275
so you just sprayed it with white epoxy and that was it? looks good

>> No.1433558

>>1433475
I ripped all the asbestos insulation out and replaced it with r-33 or better fiberglass.
Changed out the r12 freon with r134a.
Put all new door seals on it.
Used Bondo to fill some rust holes.
Ripped out all the old wiring and put in new and added a ground.
Took out the door light switch and butter warmer and replaced all the old contacts.
Took out the socket for the light and replaced it. I had to create a rubber boot for it.
Finally I sanded it down and primed/painted it with white epoxy. Tip: WEAR A RESPIRATOR WHEN SPRAYING EPOXY. Since I was in a hurry I had a few small runs and will have to smooth them out before I do my final coat and a layer of clear. Im waiting until I replate the chrome before doing the final work.

I still need to reassemble my chrome plating rig so I can replate the small parts.

>> No.1433564

>>1433558
>Put all new door seals on it
were you able to get an exact replacement? im trying to find a rubber door seal to mine with no luck

>> No.1433778

>>1433564
Check door seals at home depot. The originals no longer exist and no one makes big enough seals anymore.
I bought some exterior door seals and ran a piece of foam backer rod through it to give it the volume I needed. Since I was able to get the overall thickness >1/2 inch, my door lock crushes it enough to make a good seal.

>> No.1435270

>>1433778
thats what i ended up doing, using a new foam liner on the unit side so when the door side closes it creates a double buffer. time will tell if it makes a difference

>> No.1435291

They are good for aging meat in . There is no circ fan so the meat will not dry out . Some people still want these just for that purpose. $$$

>> No.1436158

>>1435291
thats a pretty good idea.. we get a lot of meat from my uncle who own a restaurant