/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1406229
Not an expert but have been reading on all this stuff a bit lately. Pic related looks like it comes from an AirCat rep on some random board and this is his take on it. He also says that while the twin-clutch (pin) hits harder initially, there’s more to go wrong inside.

>>1406239
Another dude that adds to that point.

>>1406239
>>1406241
interesting.
I have an old craftsman that is a pin clutch style, but it's very worn out and down on power so I can't judge it too well.

>>1406229
I've got an old Thor like this one. It is a beast. Cost $89.50 new. That is about $850 dollars in today's money. There are still tons of old Thor tools out there at estate sales and such. They even show up on eBay pretty regularly. You will pass it down to your grandkids if you take care of it.

Whats /diy/'s thoughts on this bad boy? Ive been eyeing it up for the last few weeks.

>>1406304
Fug that looks cool

>>1406308
I have the matco version, which I'm suspecting is just a re brand.
Be that as it may, I work on heavy duty trucks and trailers, and this gun has taken the place of my full size Ingersoll rand. Tons of torque, fits damn near everywhere, solid gun.
Cant speak for the harbor freight model, but ive heard really good things about their new earthquake line.

Just get a cordless. There's absolutely no reason to use an air impact unless your in a shop with air lines everywhere

>>1406322
I am in a shop with an air supply.
>>1406308
Never used one, but they feel nice. Personally I would want the CP stubby as it looks better and isn't a whole lot more money.

I am actually in the market for battery impact driver.
My current air compressor is used for nail guns which require less air than a wrench.
Cost of a new compressor with 5 or 6 cfm at 90 pounds + the tool + plus impact sockets = whole lotta money.

>>1406308
700 pounds seems light compared to
Pic related
Double the foot pounds torque

>>1406308
>90psi

what pressure do you run it at?

>>1406484
>what pressure do you run it at?

90 psi is pretty standard for air tools. The compressor runs up to 150 or so, and has a regulator that you adjust to 90. Once in a while when something won't budge I push it up to 110 or so, wondering if I'm gonna destroy the tool and kill myself in the process.

>>1406479

That is one awesome tool. I wonder how long the batteries last under heavy load.

>>1406484
See
>>1406486

Look at most pneumatic tools the they will list require or optimal amount of air for the tool.
The air compressors are rated the same.
If you buy a tool that requires 5 cfm and you compressor can only deliver 3 cfm then don’t expect the tool to work.

On my finish nail guns I use 90 psi for pine or thin moldings
110 psi for hardwood.

>>1406479
Those battery numbers are iffy. That 1400lbs is hard to get in the real world. All the Jewtoob guys have been testing those things and they kick ass compared to what you could get out of electric tools in the past, but I some of the best tests I saw they were getting like 700ft-lbs of working torque and around 1100ft-lbs with the perfect settings to bust a nut.

And also the first 2 responses in the thread- the powerful air tools will give you that high torque on the first couple hits while the electric ones need to hammer on the nut for a bit to heat it up and build to that max number.

The DeWalt 1/2” runs right up there with the Milwaukee one in power too.

https://youtu.be/ZUNXe1ha6aA

>>1406308
Those things get used a lot in garages by people who would love to shit on HF tools.

>>1406501

I wonder what happened to me. I used to be able to watch TV and sit through commercials, but nowadays if a youtuber takes a few minutes to get going I have to go.

>the electric ones need to hammer on the nut for a bit to heat it up

heat the nut up?

>>1406506
Yeah like towards the end of it you see him try to replicate those numbers. And if you use an impact, you can feel the heat on fasteners just from the vibrations and torque. Even if you just hammer on a piece of metal, it will start to get hot and that all factors into those high ratings.

Some of those 30min reviews are kinda tough to watch though.

>>1406506

>I used to be able to watch TV and sit through commercials, but nowadays if a youtuber takes a few minutes to get going I have to go.

There are a few factors to this.

1 - You hadn't much choice other than to watch the adverts. Even if you switched channels most stations played adverts at the same times

2 - In the actual program the content was relevant to the program. If you turned over to the documentary channel in hopes to watch something like late 80's NAT geo and a program came on where the first 30% of it was bold and the beautiful, you would switch the fucking channel. It's like when you see wranglerstars "which chain bar is the best" topic and you click on it to listen to a story about when he was a child and his daddy was a real man and people these days are heathens it deserves not to be watched.

3 - The quality of the filler content. All programs sometimes had filler. There was good filler and there was bad filler. Most YouTubers don't take the time to edit their stuff properly or spend time coming up with actual filler ideas because it is more than likely not their job and main source of income. On TV the window of opportunity for a program is vastly smaller than on YouTube so they had to convince you to give them your time at a particular time of day once a week or even once a day. They had to get the whole show right.

>>1406531

4 - The actual people who are even in the business are normally unrelatable. I went to a trade show in London to try and push my hotel a few years back and there were a few seminars that were available for me to sit in. Of all of them I sat in, even the fruity eco-tourism seminar, I found the vast majority of attendees and presenters to be professional, relatable and easy to communicate with and understand. The media marketing seminar, which dealt with Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc. on the other hand was the complete opposite. The presenters didn't seem to know what they were presenting, the attendees couldn't get their questions across, the turn out was the smallest of the whole trades how and no one was getting to the point. Just a lot of "uhm, if and but". They also were kids, not the youngest presenters by far but the youngest in the mind. People that looked 35 but spoke like they were 14. These are the professionals in one of the world's largest indoor trade shows, geared to present to the world on a competitive level. Imagine what the amateurs are like.

>>1406486
If it’s anything like the dewalt they last quite a while. I have 5ah batteries on mine and I’ve actually never had it die while in use. One of the most useful tools I ever bought. Haven’t touched my air impacts since

>>1406489
No it’ll work just fine but with heavy use you’ll be waiting on the compressor a lot.

>>1406506
The hammering action and the vibrations it creates generates heat.

>>1406566
>The hammering action and the vibrations it creates generates heat

Yeah, obviously. but his comment, that I was questioning, is ambiguous:

"the electric ones need to hammer on the nut for a bit to heat it up and build to that max number."

Is he saying that the impact wrench heats the nut to build up the torque, or the impact wrench itself has to heat up to build up the torque? Both seem like horseshit to me; impact wrenches of any type do not rely on heating the fastener, do they?

inb4 "heat makes the nut expand, so it loosens"

>>1406587
>Both seem like horseshit to me; impact wrenches of any type do not rely on heating the fastener, do they?
It's pure unalloyed horseshit. This is why you don't respond to tripfags.

>>1406479
these max torque numbers are all memes. Especially that "torque o matic" brake rotor test thing that site's review uses.

>>1406587
The impact gun doesn’t rely on the heat generated, but it can play a part.

A nut torqued to 1000ft-lbs might not bust loose with a given impact when it’s cold, but after being hammered a shit ton by the wrench and heated a bit, it could break loose with that same impact gun.

The end of that video the guy attempts to recreate the numbers they give for max breakaway torque and the only way he gets close is by working them on and off and hammering them a bunch until everything is hot and lubricated.

>>1406613
Great answer.

>>1406713
>A nut torqued to 1000ft-lbs might not bust loose with a given impact when it’s cold,

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that 1000 ft-lb fasteners cannot be warmed up enough by a minute of being slammed by an impact wrench to make a thermal difference. Sometimes it just takes that many blows to break it loose.

>>1406736
I doubt it matters unless you’re right on the edge and that extra little bit helps.

The point was that there was no way to get close to the max torque numbers of those cordless impacts without working the fasteners a bunch of times until they get hot. Dude had to run the bolts in and out of the holes to warm them a bunch to get good numbers.

I think with all of that lube and hot threads, he was at like 1100ft-lbs for the Milwaukee and Dewalt when they claim 1300-1400.

Too lazy to watch the thing again.

Ingersol is the only impact worth owning

>>1406757
Those come in behind the Milwaukee and dewalt
And cost more too.

>>1406746
>without working the fasteners a bunch of times until they get hot.

ah. I didn't read your other post so well.

carry on.

>>1406811

it actually was the prestige car in its class

>>1406812

lol back tire is low

>>1406814

no u

>>1406816

moar cars pls

>>1406817
this bitch looks like a munchkin
bet shes a starfish in the sack too

>>1406817

more tay please

>>1406812
Nice old mashed vw
license plate is crooked....TRIGGERED

>>1406828
>a munchkin

lollipop kids rule

>>1406775
they are tried and true Goob

Anyone here have experience with the Aircat 1431?

>>1406833
ok forgive me...when I flush a huge turd Ill stir the water the other direction in honor

>>1406837
>the Aircat 1431?

>>1406844
yeah
I don't want a composite impact wrench

>>1406845
>I don't want a composite

>>1406837
>>1406844
>>1406845
>>1406849
take that faggot shit back to /b/ you dolt

>>1406854
>take that faggot shit back to /b/ you dolt

you keep using that word...

>>1406854
I'm trying to stay on topic here.

Thoughts on the Snapon IM5100?

>>1406859
>to stay on topic here.

noooo

>>1406834
>>Because we been always doing it that a way.
I get you anon, I don’t like new things either.
Specially if those new things are better than the old things

I also need an impact rated socket set
I Prefer made in America, because MAGA!
1/2 inch drive
Metric and SAE
Regular and deep well
Along with some extensions
Any suggestions?
In before craftsman
Pic related, current project

>>1406871
air you butt licker electric is for you chad garage mechanics that like to fire up your pos and pester the neighbors. always wonder why your shit never runs cuz I sugar the shit

>>1406885
Someone didn’t read the thread.
And then starts calling people names.
Must be Canadian

>>1406876
Aint gonna find any new US made Craftsman sockets. I’m so nervous buying anything from them now with Sears going downhill.

Look for Proto or SK. It’s not going to be cheap, but the Proto sets on Amazon don’t look much more expensive than better Asian sets like Sunex.

Unless you have access to the tool truck guys, then any of those will be solid from Snap-On, Matco, Mac. But half the reason you pay their price is because you can ask the tool truck guy for a new one when a tool breaks, and it’s not going to be easy to do that when you buy them from eBay.

>>1406876
>>1406905
Williams as well. Supposedly they’re the same company as Snap-On. Their prices look very competitive considering they’re US made.

Ex heavy automotive mechanic here. When I started we used all 1/2in Snap-ones and Ingersol 3/4 & 1” guns. Snap-on has recently changed the design of their guns and the quality has suffered at which point we switched to Mac which has held far better. Above 1/2in Ingersol makes the best equipment.

>>1406958
>quality has suffered
You mean with the mg725? My buddy at work has one of those, it's powerful but he hardly ever uses it so who knows how long it would last.

What Mac impact do you like?

>>1406587
No they don’t rely on heat but the heat does help some with stubborn bolts.

Impacts no matter the type will NEVER reach their rated specs in the real world. They test them under perfect conditions setup specifically to get the highest numbers possible.

>>1406958
>>heavy automotive mechanic
Try the keto diet
Worked for my friend.
Also aerobic exercise to burn calories

>>1407271