/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Little more about it.. Like I said, it's 11 acres. Located in Central Virginia just outside Richmond. I payed $13k for it. You can see the property lines pretty clearly by what is destroyed and what's not.

It should also be said, it has been reseeded, but that was literally like a week ago.

>>1388156
How is access from major roadway?

>>1388162
It's got about an acre's worth of paved road frontage

Fuck their reseed. Get a dozer in there and throw a layer og good top soil over it. Then seed that on your chughole free property. I would plant black walnut or put a cuckshead cabin on it. Goodluck bro. Will be some work but worth it. I recomend get a shitty dump truck and a hoe. Dig a pond and us pond dirt to level the place.

>>1388156
does it have a caveat that you must now restore the land?

>>1388168
gotta be careful with trees on your land. in australia they heritage list anything over a week old and declare 5yo saplings as old growth protected conservation flora. it will happen to you.

but srsly, what conditions came with the land?

>>1388160
keep spraying it with roundup. you dont want those faggot trees to grow. 11 acres isnt really enough to call it a weekend hunting retreat.

>>1388168
I agree. They seed it with those gay ass pines that grow in a couple years. I would have seeded it with oak trees and waited the 40 years. Also, the neighbor next door is a family friend who has a dozer, and he said he'll run it all I need for $30/hr. I talked to another guy who quoted me $100/hr. Pond is definitely going to happen. Hopefully not the cuckshed. I'll have to figure something out.

>>1388170
No caveat about restoring the land. It doesn't even require a clean up by law, just a reseed which has happened. No conditions.

>>1388172
The land actually backs up to my Uncle's property, which is about 80 acres, and all the surrounding area is also woods, so the hunting is prime, especially on the creek that runs through the back of the property.

>>1388156

>I bought some land cause it was a good deal but didnt think ahead as to what the fuck im going to do with or or how much its gonna cost to make the land usable aside from a muddy swamp

why do people like you exist. seriously..

- build pond
- build cabin
- get comfy

>>1388245
t. suburbanite

>>1388256
That's the plan. I should have the dozer going by next week, then it's onto the well and septic, then cabin plans... One thing at a time.

>>1388260
awesome dude. I'm jelly, especially since you got land close to family. in one year that's gonna be lush green and overgrown.
would be cool if you kept threads about your progress.
i've been keeping my eye out for acreages too.

Leave it be. You can bring some dead and rotting timber on it or burn it or plant some trees on it if you want to fasten the process but eventually the land will heal itself.

>>1388156
>land
wasteland*

>totally clear 3-5 acres of it, preferably on south facing slope
>build cabin or some other type of domicile
>small pond, stocked of course
>let everything else grow back in

>>1388156
Time to blow up some stumps with explosives.

>>1388262
Yeah, I've been searching for the right place for years. I managed to pick this up in a private sale from a logger who bought it just for the timber. Got it long before it ended up online. I'll definitely be taking pictures along the way, so posting update threads is totally possible. It's going to be a long process.

>>1388263
More than likely I'm going to try and consolidate the felled timber on the land into one pile and let it burn for a week. I don't see any other option that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I'm looking forward to watching this land heal over the upcoming years.

>>1388264
You're not wrong. I spent 2 hours stumbling through the property. It's like one of those pictures you see from WW1 where they've been shelling the same hill for 6 months. It's dismal. They did all the logging when it was wet out too, so it's extra fucked.

>>1388267
That's been my plan all along. Thank for you the validation. I just hope it doesn't take years to complete.

>>1388273
Tannerite isn't hard to get around these parts...

>>1388275
Even if it does take years, enjoy it OP.
Nice truck too, my first vehicle was a 78 f100 with a 3 speed on the column. Loved the high beam switch on the floor.

>>1388279
Thanks anon. Yeah, I had never seen the high beam switch on the floor until I got the truck. Had to hit it with some PB Blaster just to get it to move. Unfortunately I'm probably going to have to sell the truck for an old 1 ton with 4x4 to deal with this mess of a property.

Pic related is some aussie aesthetic I picked up from /o/ some years back

>>1388191
Set up a deer stand on your side of the fence. Or... kangaroo hunting blind or whatever. And point it right at your uncle's land to fuck with him. Kek.

$30hr if fuel is included is fuck near free anon. Rent a hoe and find a bro that can run it hard. Dig that pond and have dozerbro level it. Would help to have anything with a dump bed also

>>1388245
Oh look Angryfag is back!

Hi faggot!

I think op should plant a hedge row finger and get an arial shot. Then mail it to your hateful ass.

Seriously man. Every single fucking thread...

Go to /b with the other manlets to spurg the fuck out

>>1388262
This.

Hey annon out of curiosity are you building your cabin off grid or are you going to hookup? I got 240 acres of solid forest similar to the surrounding and I'm planning a cabin as well.

>>1388275
You don't really have to do anything. That area is surrounded by forest and it isn't even really ruined, it's just cut down. I have first-hand witnessed some old agricultural land reforesting and it's surprisingly fast process, and that wasn't even purposely replanted like yours.
Next year it's filled with tall grass, the year after that it's full of nettles, raspberry bush and even some willow saplings. The year or two or three after that comes the poplars.
10-15 years and it's a young living forest.

>>1388279
I got 2 daily drivers with that ;) 85 c10 with bored big block and 74 olds with stock 455 and 50,000 miles.

Good fun. i didnt have a fuel injected car until like 2 years ago

>>1388156
How did you research your parcel? What services led you to this piece of land?

>>1388284
Yeah, I'm quite bummed about not finding any suitable trees for a tree stand. We gon' kill some deer either way, though.

>>1388286
>hedge row finger
wew

>>1388287
Will do.

>>1388289
I don't plan on building off grid. I don't have the finances for a house and a solar set up for it. While I like the idea, I simply can't do it. Though it's more than likely there will be a house on the property that's on the grid, and another that isn't.

>>1388291
I know, and that's why I'm not worried about it. Even if I didn't touch it for 2 years, I could just sell it for twice what I paid once it's green. I will nurture it all the same, though.

>>1388292
Nice. Yeah, I've got a gaggle of shitboxes too. I just can't help myself. Again, pic always related.


I'll be taking more pictures of the land in the next couple days. It's about 30 miles from where I currently live.

>>1388295
Well, the current owner is a logger who bought it 3 months ago, tore everything down, and put up a spray painted sign saying "17K OBO" and then the wind knocked it over, and it was gone. My uncle knew about it though since he drives by it everyday, so he told me about it, I went through the woods across the street and found the sign, called the guy, the rest is history. I really lucked out and that's why I jumped on it.

>>1388300
>current owner

I meant last owner. This just seems sureal to me. Tfw land owner

>>1388300
checked
Also great land grab there anon.
As other anon said $30/hr for dirt work is basically fuel. Jump on that offer, have a cookout, some beer, etc. You want a friend like that.
Watch the bullshit factor with any land conservation crap. Though since it's been clearcut about the only problem you could run into is runoff and if you alter the slope. Depends on what the local regs are.

Hey, I actually live in Chesterfield. I’d pay you to let me use the land for shooting on. if you’re interested, shoot me an email at thisisclearlyaburneremail@gmail.com, I’d love to try and work something out. I wouldn’t mind helping do maintenance work on the land either if you want.

>>1388306
Yeah I never intended to buy a wasteland, but the price, location, amount of land was all correct. I guess the god's were smiling upon me when I found it. I lowballed the hell out of the guy too, and he didn't even counter. Just sighed and said "Yeah, I can do that." And frankly $13k is about all I could afford.

>>1388328
>implying I would ever charge a /k/ommando to shoot on my land

I'll send you an email, anon.

>>1388301
Gz anon on your find. Keep the pics coming!

Now that you're a land owner I think you are finally allowed to vote.

>>1388156
Rather than run a dozer over it, I’d run a spike harrow or something similar that would just scrape and level the dirt. You could pull it behind your truck. Use dozer for big gouges first, then seed into pasture grass... it will grow fast and prevent erosion. Next year plant some good trees in a mix.

>>1388260
Do you have schematics of the place to post? I'd be happy to draw up some draft plans for you to play around with/get inspired from. Rural retreats are my favourite.

t. architect/property developer

>>1388299

Is it free to get the get on the grid there? I live in Finland a just a few miles off and it would have costed me about 15k to get connected.

>>1388383
Interesting. In some countries like France the government gives you a free gas-tank full of gas and installs it for you (you have to actually connect it to your property though) if you're too far away from the grid. I know it's just heating, not electricity but it's still something.

>>1388383
Not OP but did something similar a few states north of him. It's not free, in fact it's expensive as fuck. It was 25,000 US dollars for 350 yards distance. It sucks because I really wanted to use a 220v welder back there but it is what it is.

>>1388384

Such is the life here. Still not done with the cabin anyways, might just get a generator or some smaller scale solarpanels. Not planning on taking much there anyways, fridge and lamps basically.

>>1388394
The fridge will be your biggest energy consumer. You live in Finland, which is cold so you could get away with digging a cellar (best option) or having a non-thermally insulated room as your pantry adjacent to your actual kitchen and store the majority of your food there and only buy a freezer or small fridge for your foods that absolutely require a fridge.

Also make sure all your light bulbs are LEDs, they consume drastically less power than any other type.

If all you're powering is a couple of LED bulbs and a mini-fridge on a low-setting or a freezer that you don't open frequently you could get away with just a solar-panel/generator combo.

>>1388394
Also, http://www.surechill.com/how-it-works/

>>1388351
No more pics unfortunately. I'll be taking more tomorrow.

>>1388373
I can't even run a truck through it. Not even a 4wheeler. A dozer is going to have to do the initial clearning.

>>1388380
I don't, yet. In fact I haven't even seen the property lines on paper. The only reason I bought it without seeing them is people the place was just surveyed a few months ago, and the orange tape on the property lines are clear as day. Pretty much anything that's not cut down and destroyed is not on my land. I will be uploading them more in the next thread, though.

>>1388383
>>1388384
>>1388389
It's not free, but I don't think it will be quite that expensive. I may be able to tandem off a neighbors house, but if not, and the power company wants something crazy like $10,000 or more I will just spend that on solar and call it a day.

>>1388380
>>1388405
>The only reason I bought it without seeing them is people the place was just surveyed a few months ago

What was I even trying to say here? Jesus fuck.
Anyway, yeah, I haven't seen the schematics in person but it's pretty obvious where they are once you get there. I'll be sure to post them when I get my hands on them.

>>1388408
Cool, you could post a google earth screencap meanwhile to give us an idea? You can anonymise it too if you crop out the co-ordinates etc and then you just draw the property lines on paint roughly. Just make sure to keep the scale bar on the bottom right.

How much of the land have you marked with your piss, OP? Can't let the wild dogs think this land is theirs.

>>1388411
This is the best I can do right now. The satellite photo is from 2018, but they're not recent enough to show the logging damage. I really need to get my hands on a topographical map.

>>1388412
Just a couple places. Not nearly enough.

>>1388413
That's cool, will do for now! Is your uncle's place the one North or South of the property? I assume you want them linked right? Even if it's just a path

>>1388414
It's actually west on the other side of the creek.

>>1388416
How do you feel about building a small bridge? Could be a cool project

>>1388413
Get me the lat/lon of someplace centered on that plot and I can pull a topo.

>>1388423
Or try here.. you can screencap that or pay for a full map from them. http://www.mytopo.com/maps/

>>1388425
also https://nationalmap.gov/ustopo/

>>1388417
That's ultimately both of our plans, but that's a long long ways away.

>>1388423
>>1388425
>>1388426
Thanks pham

>>1388428
Updated with property lines. As you can see it's pretty damn steep in some places. Especially on the southwestern hill leading down to the creek.

why did u buy a cleared lot?

>>1388431
Because it's all I could afford, anon

>>1388439
You like to farm at all op? Hugelkultur would be a good way to use all those leftovers. You could just plant apple trees on them to.

>>1388158
I've been thinking about moving to Virgina and buying some land. Currently renting in Maryland and there are way too many libs and niggers. Is Virginia much better?

>>1388444
Depends what part of Virginia...

>>1388405
Took another look at the picture. I don't see how they could even claim that land was re-seeded. Use the dozer to push together the loose limbs and either burn them or chipper them (latter would be better for soil, but that's a lot of work.)

10 acres is a lot of land to tackle at one time. I'd seriously consider just tackling 2-3 this year for a basic homestead / garden plot and getting to the rest later... start from road and work back. I *would* overseed the bare areas with pasture grass for a few reasons: grows quick, adds nitrogen back to soil, bedding/forage area for wildlife of all types, roots deep enough to keep soil from washing away (which would be my main concern.) Seed it over the torn up land and just let it grow... you can spray it out later when you get time.

>>1388275
damn fine pick 'em up truck ya got there

>>1388156
get it surveyed so you know where your land boundaries truly are

chances are it was already surveyed recently since they did the logging. go to the land records department and get a copy of the survey. then go walk your property and find all the survey markers.
do everything you can to protect and preserve those survey markers.
run some wire, some line or fence or whatever you can afford, all along the property lines so everyone can see your lines.

>>1388444
As a fellow marylander, thank god for carroll county.

Fuck working in baltimore though.

well friend I just bought a bridge
have no idea why or what the hell to do with it
You need a bridge

Continuous red is dirt road, clear of trees, dotted red is forest path (single-track).

Dark green is wooded land, light green is planted land for growing shit.

Blue is the pond and dotted blue are underground water lines. To the west the pond gets water from the creek, to the east the planted land gets water from the main water lines (I assumed they run along the main road?).

No. 1 is a garden shed containing supplies for the planted land and the irrigation pump. This can be one of the first buildings on site.

No. 4 is where you can eventually build a house the size of the neighbouring houses. It's set back enough to not be directly visible or accessible from the road, but close enough to be practical and built on high ground. You obviously won't be able to build this now but don't let that hill-top grow trees.

No. 2 is a small pavillion built on the high ground adjacent to the gully (the gully is now a pond). You can use this to chill out or shoot ducks.

No. 3 is where you build your cabin. You can build something small at first and then eventually something like those 2-level forest-observation cabins. It's on high-ground, completely surrounded by woodlands and perfect for hunting purposes.

Next to no. 4 where your dirt road is at its closest to the northern property line, you could theoretically run it straight, directly to the main road but I made it turn to add privacy.

>>1388489
P.S. The main house, planted land and the pavilion on the pond are positioned in such a way that they get maximum direct sunlight

how is it zoned? I know in MD it is a fucking pain in the ass and perc test and some other shit make your life hell

>>1388489
OP did you check out my design?

>>1388489
>>1388491
>>1388843
You read my mind with the long driveway. I figure a long driveway will give the illusion that the property is bigger than it really is. I think I'm going to need to have the driveway up to number 3 because the cabin will come before the main house. Perhaps it can lead up there from the "k" in creek, assuming it's not too steep.

Unfortunately there are no water lines, so I'll be building a well before anything. I think if I dig far enough for a pond it will just fill up on its own, if not I'll find a way to run water from the creek. It's wonderful, I'm saving it to my phone so I can show it to dozer bro with what I've got in mind. Thank you.

>>1388501
It's zoned pretty lax. Not like, middle of the desert lax, but as far as Virginia goes I can probably get away with a lot.


I wasn't able to go out there today, it's been raining too bad.

Congratulations on your purchase. You own a piece of Earth, you're living the dream. you have a lot of good years ahead of you watching that land grow back and shaping it how you want.

>>1388859
You're welcome dude, I'm excited to see how this turns out. I'll make an email so you can send me the schematics when you get them and I'll make you a CAD draft.

>You read my mind with the long driveway. I figure a long driveway will give the illusion that the property is bigger than it really is.
Exactly that's one reason. The other is privacy and the third is "defensibility". If someone's coming on to your land to steal your shit when you're out in the boonies you want them travelling the maximum distance possible so that you can hear or see them by the time they get to yours. Plus the fact that the driveway not only snakes around but also goes down then up in elevation helps for all 3 of those points.

>I think I'm going to need to have the driveway up to number 3 because the cabin will come before the main house. Perhaps it can lead up there from the "k" in creek, assuming it's not too steep.

Note that he driveway is one the same elevation for 3/4 of its entire length to make it easier to build and also to maintain (steep dirt roads tend to get fucked up when it rains) but also to make it easier to drive on. Taking it all the way up to the cabin is one option but it would make it harder/costlier and also make your cabin less "hidden" which I think is a cool feature to have.

Alternatively you run the driveway as close as possible to the cabin (from the topo map I'd say you can make it run as close as 70ft from the cabin's hilltop without changing it's elevation), build your cabin before the trees grow back. I'm sure your truck will be able to drive up the hill before the trees start growing back, which is ages from now.

I've attached an image with just the topo lines which might be better for your bulldozer guy to understand

cont'd

>>1388859
>Unfortunately there are no water lines, so I'll be building a well before anything. I think if I dig far enough for a pond it will just fill up on its own, if not I'll find a way to run water from the creek.
Perhaps you can install a pump with a float switch to the well, meaning it only runs when the pond's level goes below a certain level (like on the right hand side of this pic). In fact, you could make it so that the creek fills it up to a certain level and then below that the float switch pump takes over to save on electricity and pump running time.

Please let a patch go wild for the sake of biodiversity. It won't take much.

>>1388922
I don't know what sort of tree grows naturally in VA but in the UK the forestry commission has been burning down artificial forests that have been planted exclusively with evergreen conifers for logging or christmas tree purposes and replacing them with a mix of local trees that would have originally been there.

The resulting forest is much better. It allows sunlight to come through and things actually grow on the floor of the forest too, which means an abundance of life goes on rather than the dark fir/pine forests which are less hospitable.

Perfect for hunting purposes as well. If I were OP I'd message the local college's science department and ask what trees they recommend.

>>1388156
BUILD A FUCKING CASTLE

or like a permaculture homestead or whatever

make it happen anon

>>1388891
>Alternatively you run the driveway as close as possible to the cabin (from the topo map I'd say you can make it run as close as 70ft from the cabin's hilltop without changing it's elevation), build your cabin before the trees grow back. I'm sure your truck will be able to drive up the hill before the trees start growing back, which is ages from now.

Or you could just temporarily get your bulldozer pal to extend the driveway to the cabin then re-seed it once the cabin is built, in such a way that just leaves space for a narrow path leading up to it. Make it just wide enough to carry off someone on a stretcher in-case someone ever gets a heart-attack or something because you don't want to die alone innawoods.

>>1388156
>freshly logged
>wasn't replanted

Wow, that's seriously shitty. and illegal in some places.

>>1388955
Read the thread m80. >>1388160

>>1388891
Privacy is a huge thing for me. I may even set up a CCTV system throughout the property at some point. Lots of "diversity" around these parts, if you know what I mean. Not that the faces like mine are very trustworthy, either.

What do you think about putting gravel down on the driveways? It's going to be expensive but I don't want the driveways to get torn up every time it rains.

That's an excellent idea with the pond, because frankly I had no idea what I was going to do with that outside of digging a big ass hole and hoping it fills up with water.

>>1388922
>>1388927
As of now it's planted with Douglas Fur trees..which are more or less christmas trees. JUST

I plan on getting some fruit trees seeded down. Apple trees, peach trees, whatever will grow around here.

>>1388930
Homestead will more than likely be the end game

>>1388938
>shipping container ghetto for enslaved NEETS

Shipping container ghetto for enslaved trap neets

FTFY

>>1388954
That's more than likely what will happen. I'll need to seriously think about how I'm going to go about getting my cabin. Whether it be a moduler, one made from scratch (it should be noted I have no trees on my property to harvest), or whatever. I'm not ready to have that conversation about what will be done as far as the dwelling goes. Perhaps in the next thread I will list the options I've got in my head, and see what you guys think.

Fire

>>1388156
>What the fuck do I now?
plant trees, get a fat check in 5-30 years,

>>1388978
If I were you I'd put a CCTV system (optional: with motion-triggered floodlights) on the front gate facing the road and on each building, then motion sensors along the drive-way. The reason being you can only really keep track of 4 or 5 cameras and cameras don't help much in the forest without light or expensive IR gear. So that and the fact that you don't want floodlights scaring away animals from your woodland so motion sensors are a good cheap and practical solution for your driveway. Picture shows placement example.

Get a good sturdy gate but not one that looks overly fancy or high-tech/tacti-cool because you make yourself a target. Then on either side of it, instead of it and on your perimeter, instead of a super strong fence, which requires money to be good and attracts attention, make dense hedgerows. Google how to make them, they're easy as hell and are used in France and most of Europe.

Gravel is a good idea for the dirtroad but like you said it's expensive. Makes noise too, so may not be good if you plan to walk on it when you're hunting? Instead, since you have a bulldozer pal, look at how to make the dirt road so that it has a slight incline and build a drainage ditch around it. I'm sure there's lots of info on the internet on how to make dirt roads that drain properly. Save your money for the float-switch pump and whatever you may need to line your pond's floor with

>>1388978
Hedgerows (managed to stop Sherman tanks in WWII)

>>1388978
>I plan on getting some fruit trees seeded down. Apple trees, peach trees, whatever will grow around here.

Put the fruit trees you really care about in the light-green area so they're easy to access and get enough sunlight. Your land there is sloped so you can do something like pic-related. There was a very good image floating around on /diy/ and /out/ on how to plant both trees and crops on sloped land in a way that works together. I think the principle is called SALT.

>>1388978
>That's more than likely what will happen. I'll need to seriously think about how I'm going to go about getting my cabin. Whether it be a moduler, one made from scratch (it should be noted I have no trees on my property to harvest), or whatever. I'm not ready to have that conversation about what will be done as far as the dwelling goes. Perhaps in the next thread I will list the options I've got in my head, and see what you guys think.

Ideas for your cabin. Easy to build, good insulation downstairs and the residual heat from the stove travels up to the observation/chill-out room which seems very appropriate considering yours will be on a hill-top. It's literally four stone walls and a bunch of pre-made windows with some roofing.

>>1389004
P.S. It looks like those cabins are a standardised design for state parks or something so that can be very beneficial for you in terms of sourcing parts etc.

>>1389007
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/bighorn/recarea/?recid=30588

Could phone them up and ask them for info/help on how to build it.

>>1388996
>dirtroad drainage

Straight from the horse's mouth - here you go:

https://www.fs.fed.us/eng/pubs/html/00771803/00771803.html

>>1388156
Anon.... If this is where I think is your maybe 5 min from my parents house. Good little area.

Throw a WW1 re-enactment

>>1388170
What fucking Nazi shit did you guys on the mainland do to get trees listed as old growth that quickly? In Tassie we have to leave trees for nearly a lifetime for that to happen.

>>1388978
>I plan on getting some fruit trees seeded down. Apple trees, peach trees, whatever will grow around here.
That's not a good place for them. They need really rich soil and very much sunlight, and they are quite small and grow slowly so they'd need a constant care for not being overgrown by other trees. Naturally they only grow on the very edges of a forest and often near standing water.

>>1388999

That is not just a simple hedgerow

>>1388938
it's beautiful

>>1388999
You could mix this idea with the hurgurkurtur garden some anon posted earlier in the thread.

I live in central VA, is that Chesterfield Amelia, Dinwiddie, Henrico?

>>1389229
I only ask because depending on where that is and relative distance from civilization, you could set up a shooting range and/or skeet range. Hold turkey shoots, 3 gun, etc... I'd patron that place and I know quite a few who would as well because the range in Mechanicsville is just way out of the way and at Colonial Shooting you are limited on the longuns you can use and they're expensive and full of tacticool faggots

>>1389176
>hurgurkurtur
I think that's a better idea for the lower edges of the planted fields near the main house. Where the thick light green lines are/

>>1389150
Idk but we doze hectares of bush when we need to-Inner Qld

>>1388156
First things first, broadcast seed it with some sort of cover so your topsoil doesn't wash away. I'd probably use annual ryegrass, but I'd want to farm it. Grass seed would be cheapest where I live, probably different for you.

You've probably got some big brush piles. If you burn those they take ages to burn. If you pyrolize them into charcoal you can spread that on the soil to put the carbon back in the ground where it belongs. Don't just chip it; those take years to break down and everything in the soil beneath them is trapped and goes anaerobic.

There is no easy way to remove stumps. If you want to till-farm it then rent an excavator. If you want to pasture it, rent a stump grinder.

Once you've got the stumps and branches cleared you can use a dozer to set the grade you want. Make the spot for the house higher than the surrounding area so water flows away from the house. Put in a pond and quadruple your value. Do a perk test so you know where your crap can go. Plant it in grass and sell it when it's green if it doesn't perk.

Sorry I haven't been posting much lately. I've had a rough couple of days because of things unrelated, and I have no real updates. It's been raining like hell and I haven't had a chance to even hit the land.
>>1388984
More than likely what will happen

>>1388985
I ain't got time for that

>>1388996
A gate is a must for me. It's always been a dream for me. I was a welder for 10 years, so a gaudy iron gate with my name on it surrounded by a brick wall will for sure happen, and I'll make it myself. I don't care what the locals think.

It will be interesting seeing how carving out a driveway in the side of the hill will go.
>>1389013
This will be a god sent.

>>1389004 >>1389009
>>1389007

I love these. I want to build one like this, except a traditional cabin on top of a 1st floor of stone.

>>1389136
You actually read my mind. I've been telling people the land looks like one of those hills in WW1 that was shelled for 6 months straight

>>1389151
I'll try

>>1389229
Prince Edward

>>1389689
There are countless stumps. But yeah, quadrupling my money won't be hard, but I don't even necessarily want to do that with this piece of land. I need a compound.

>>1389741
If you have lots of stumps and you want a compound do these >>1389176
>>1388999

A combination of hurgurkultur and hedgerows would use up all your stumps and create a virtually impenetrable perimeter.

>>1389744
I feel like those hedgerow gardens are so much work. Especially those hurgurkultur. I love the idea but that's so far down the list of things that need to be done.

>>1389748
Hurgurkultur is indeed a lot of work in that you're cultivating something, which requires effort. The only reason I mention it is that it seems to use the stumps.

Hedgerows on the other hand are something you do once and forget about. Theoretically, you would get the bulldozer to push stumps, rocks and dirt in such a way that you form a perimeter mound around the property (optionally get it to dig a ditch before and after the mound), and then you seed the mound with tree and bush seeds as densely as possible.

In terms of your options to enclose the compound, I feel like it's much better looking, cheaper and sturdier than a simple wire-mesh fence which is your only other option I can think of since building a meaningfully tall masonry wall is out of the question for many reasons.

>>1389751
If money was no issue, a good option would be the ha-ha, much beloved by the big estates in Europe but also incredibly expensive to build as you're both digging a deep trench and building a full size wall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha-ha

>>1389753
You could advertise free dirt and get gimedats to dig it for you.

>>1388158
>13k

Crying.

>>1389763
I'm surprised that land was so cheap considering it's in Virginia and not even some godforsaken Midwest shithole like Iowa. This price for that much land is cheap by any standard.

>>1389751
>>1389753
I've got so much to do, and as much as I want to cultivate a garden and defend myself against panzers I need to get a driveway, well, a house, and all the things that come with that.

>>1389763
>>1389771
You're both right. Land goes for $3k an acre here, that said, it was just demolished by loggers. The God's were smiling on me, truly.

>>1389788
Fair enough. Make sure you're clever about how you plan things, e.g. do absolutely everything that needs a bulldozer now that you've got one at a good hourly rate and make sure you procure and place everything too big and awkward to carry through trees now that there's none there.

By the way, since you're into ironmongery and plan to make your own gate and you've also got all sorts of work that you'll need to do on-site: Why don't you start your cabin on the west hill-top to live in, and then on the east hilltop where the house will eventually go, flatten out some land and build a rudimentary tin-shack (think like a shitty barn) to do all your work in.

You'll need some where big and dry to work and you don't want to make a mess on the site of your cabin. You could even camp in it while your cabin is being built.

>>1388978
As you say some things may grow better than others, and it also works the other way, in that whatever is growing will have an effect on things like soil ph, drainage etc. Some of these are only significant over the long term, but still worth bearing in mind.

>>1389795
>too big and awkward to carry through trees
If at some point it will be difficult to move something where once it was easy you must consider the life expectancy of what you are moving. Wood roots, metal rusts, plastic degrades. Eventually it may need replaced.

if you're low on money and have a lot of free time (i.e. unemployed) maybe you should look into cob building? I've always been interested, though I don't know how feasible it is
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6eue6e
you could use the dirt dug up for a pond for a house

>>1390358

>>1388156
I don't have much input but cool thread op, this shit is really interesting to read

>>1389830
>>1390358
While I like how it's made and what it's made of, I really dislike the hobbit-like look that most cob houses have.

The only cob architecture I enjoy is the one made of cob bricks rather than the simpler construction method in your pic. Otherwise you have stupid limitations on the design of your building based on how cob performs in its normal form.

>>1388349
Did you get a mortgage? Can you? With interest rates so low I'd rather have a $40 a month payment or w/e and keep $10k or whatever you can after downpayment and fees.

>>1390358
If you're interested in faggy permaculture I'd give Kris Harbour's channel a look: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5rT7F0PGNuD54rJ9kzgWzw

Again, sorry I haven't been posting much. I've been having a rough time, and I haven't had any good updates worth nothing. This is going to be a long process. This property won't even be green until this time next year, so bear with me. I've appreciated all the helpful posts (and snarky ones too).


>>1389795
I'm going to have a big metal shed built. Something with huge garage doors.

also >ironmongery
:3

>>1390358
>>1390378
As much as I love the idea of cob homes, I have to think about resale value. I don't think I'll have that with cob. If you think I'm wrong, please provide an example of a cob house for sale. I would love it if you could.

>>1390408
You usually can't mortgage raw land unless it's for commercial purposes. That said, I paid cash.

>>1390419
Thanks.

>>1390434
Don't fall for the cob meme. It's a terrible idea.

Build a timber/stone cabin like you were planning and then for the main house go either full-on modern or full-on Virginian when you do get the $$$ to build it.

Also, try and look into making the pond safe for humans. If you care about resale value, try and see what it needs to keep the water quality good enough to swim in so you can sell it is a swimming lake not just an ornamental feature.

This guy, Chandler is an excellent source of modern rural VA architecture. Many of the plots of land he designed for are not unlike yours. Could be a source of inspiration for your house eventually.

He uses timber and glass in a very nice way.

>>1390453
Modern but not generic soulless modern.

>>1390455
Quite warm actually.

>>1390456
Cozy and cheap-ish to build.

>>1390457
/dump over

>>1388156
atv track on an acre? $20 a session just dirt you got nothing to lose. also storage garrage on an acre? little bits and pieces add up. also aribb?

>>1390451
Jebus christ that house looks like shit.
>Timber
Weeeew

>>1388454
I agree with this anon. I would seed the everloving shit out of it just to ensure that the whole hill doesn't erode into the creek. You can always rip it out later. And even if it doesn't grow in evenly it's still better then nothing cuz 6 months of normal VA climate on that steep hill above that creek is gonna slide the whole thing down there, it'll ruin the Hill and ruin your creek.

>>1388489
I love this sub

If you want to sketch this all out properly you could do a quick GPS survey and then import your data into something like QGIS. May help planning of various things.

Rent it out to Gypsies

>>1390548
Not McMansion enough for you? American architecture used to not be terrible until the mid-late 20th century. Virginia in particular seems to be full of beautiful Colonial Georgian/Antebellum houses that lay abandoned and people think they look creepy and haunted because of the horror films they watched as kids.

>>1388156
11 acre pool

>>1390690
>Not McMansion enough for you?
way too mcmansion for me. I like houselets the best.

First thing I would do is build a dock
What state are you in im a professional dock builder

>>1390690
That house does look like shit and is literally mc mansion tier.
>weird ass roof
>split top balcony
>no window casing,
>all white
>painted brick

>>1390716
>>1390713
I disagree. Antebellum plantation manors and more modest Colonial Georgian farmhouses like this are what McMansions copied in a shitty way.

This house is built this way for a combination of practical reasons like the stone foundations that extend into the basement level and the timber construction because of the wide availability of wood in the area, the deep eaves/balconies that take the traditional shallow porticoes of the English Georgian style and turn them into a shading mechanism and protect from the rain. The spacial configuration is quite utilitarian too.

McMansions have none of these attributes they're purely form over function. They're a kitsch collection of forms from different styles that used to have a practical or historical reason to exist and have been mixed and matched in a shitty, nonsensical way according to the owners nouveau riche tastes.

This house isn't big because it's ostentatious it's big in a modest way, probably because the owner had a big family and its where a lot of work would have been done too (considering it's a farmhouse).

>>1390854
The pic I just posted and this one, are much closer to what a McMansion actually is.

>>1388429
>>1388428
Question: What's the elevation for the lines in this topo map? I.e. what's the height difference between each one?

>>1390909
Must be 10ft right?

Basedboy urbanite here

Why would you pay money for a plot of land in the middle of nowhere?

>>1390929
Because compound

>>1388158
>11acres of beautiful flat land
>$13K

Fucking ameriniggers I swear.
I was super lucky to find a steal at €18K for 3 acres of mountain, with fucking 60° slopes... To be fair there's also a (stone) house on it though.
Good for you OP.

>pic related, muh property.

>>1390937
That's cheap too. Post the house! Is this North Italy?

>>1390937
Don't be fooled,land prices vary drastically throughout the United States. $13k would buy you approximately half an acre where I live, and it's considered the very rural. Property taxes are ridiculous here as well.

I can't even describe how jealous I am.

>>1390959
Yep, western Piemonte.
I don't have a good pic of the house, it looks like a shack in this one, but it's actually 2 floors with 4 rooms each.
Only two rooms are livable though, the rest is raw storage area.
The small structure on the left is the outhouse.

>>1390984
Pic from above showing width and the slate roof.
Also you might have noticed that my phone sucks when there's fog.
I couldn't get a steady pic even after trying a million times.

>>1390966
Holy crap that's even more expensive than here. Where in the US?

>>1390990
>>1390984
This is amazing dude. The construction is really cool. It's definitely worth restoring. What are your plans for it?

>>1390996
I hope you realise you can make a shit-ton of cash with this on Airbnb once it's refurbished.

>>1390996
In the short term I just planted about 35 assorted fruit trees. I've always liked fruit trees because they give a ton of food with almost 0 effort (compared to veggies).
Other than that I'm slowly fixing the severe storm damage in the forest (pic related).

Long term it's my retirement home. I can't imagine retiring in the city, I see all these old people with nothing to do and it's just sad.
I'd like to expand it at the back, by opening up a doorway to the kitchen and making a wooden terrace to eat outside. It'd be shielded from the midday sun by the house itself.
Also either demolish the outhouse and move the bathroom inside, or link the two constructions with an insulated tunnel so that you don't freeze your balls off in the winter.
It'd also be a good idea to pave the access road, at least in the steepest part and in a particularly annoying north-facing bend that gets full of water and becomes muddy.
When it rains heavily it's a bitch getting round it on regular road tyres, even if my car is 4wd. The differential just can't deal with the slipperiness when you're at full lock.

tldr there's a fuckton of work to do.
I love the place though, even if it's not as isolated as I'd like. There's a hiking trail just 150-200m above the house, so you can hear people going by during the summer.

>>1390998
Not too sure about that one. I mean I guess someone could rent it in the summer, but in winter at the first snowstorm it becomes inaccessible unless you have a monster truck or something. A dirt bike could work I guess.

>>1391013
>I can't imagine retiring in the city, I see all these old people with nothing to do and it's just sad.

>Also either demolish the outhouse and move the bathroom inside, or link the two constructions with an insulated tunnel so that you don't freeze your balls off in the winter.
Do this or replace the stairs entirely and make that a extend the top floor out until it meets the glass

>>1390666

>>1391013
>>1390990
>>1390984
>>1390937
C O M F Y
O
M
F
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I have been watching the Giro this year and I swear to dog, Italy is fucking beautiful all around.

Again, sorry for the lack of updates. It's been raining here for 3 days straight and everything has been flooded out. Hopefully this week brings some nice updates. I plan on getting stakes and orange tape to lay out exactly where I want the driveway.


>>1390451
>>1390453
>>1390455
>>1390456
>>1390457
>>1390458
I really don't want a huge house. I already own 4 houses down here in Virginia, and they're all 100 year old "Sears" houses. God, they're such a nightmare to maintain. If I told you how much I spent on foundation work for one of them this winter it would make you sick (And it makes me sick thinking about it.) Those are all beautiful houses, though. I can only dream of something that nice.

>>1390462
I don't think I want the public so to speak on this property. Metal storage garage is a must, though.

>>1390613
I will. I don't have a copy of the property lines but I will be getting them from the court house either this week or the next.

>>1390602
I hope things pan out in a quick enough fashion. Like I said earlier in the thread, this property won't even be fully green until this time next year.

>>1390666
>Rent it out to Gypsies
>666 trips
Satan pls go

>>1390854
>>1390855
I can't even begin to afford anything like this, nor would I want something that large.

>>1390909
>>1390923
I don't know, but probably like 10 feet. The hills are fairly steep.

>>1390929
see
>>1390930


>>1390937
tfw no land in Italy. The jelly goes both ways friend.

>>1390973
Follow your dreams anon

>>1390984
>>1390990
Beautiful. Cherish it.

with all that rain surely you need a new dock?

>>1391087
lol, dock anon. There is a tiny creek in the back. See >>1388161

Once the pond is in I will absolutely want to build a proper dock. Do you have any pictures of your work? I know absolutely nothing about dock building, and we would all love to see it.

>>1389602

>>1391087

>>1391090
I actually went through this thread in its entirety last night. Great stuff.

>>1388156
how does one find acreage for sale? do you just google it? i want a race track

>>1391101
No. You will more than likely not find a primo deal on a site like realtor.com or zillow.com. Like I stated earlier in the thread, this property was listed for sale with a spray painted sign out front, that was blown over by the wind, and I was given the heads up by a family member.

>>1391086
I'm going to make you a quick 3D model of >>1388489 over the next few days once I get the time, now that I know the elevation lines (checked with the topo site, it's 10ft).

Have you got an email you can post on here?

P.S. Some of the Chandler houses (like pic-related) are really cheap/to build, you could do yourself with a couple of people to help if you've got decent building/woodwork skills.

Idea for the cabin construction. The final product should look something like this >>1389004

Ground floor wall is stone and can have tiny openings for ventilation or light. Top floor is made of DIY timber sandwich panels made of palettes ( >>1389792 )

>>1391141
Floorplan dimensions are 4m x 4m. Exactly 3 US palettes wide (They're 1.2m each).

>>1391101
>>1391121
Not sure if OP would agree but I think craigslist is good. There's lots of plots for sale nearby my place. Only problem is the best plots are always in the fuckin sticks.

>>1391148
How spooky is it to be in the sticks in the US? To a European this is hard to understand because, with very few exceptions, nowhere is *truly* the sticks. Most places are fairly close to civilisation. Even if you cannot see the closest town/village, you know that you can drive there within an hour or two at most.

In America there are enormous swathes of land with no human in sight, is it unnerving to live in such a place or is it cool?

>>1391151
Most places east of the Mississippi, you are still within proximity of houses except maybe in places like the UP and northern Maine. The land I am talking about isn't really the sticks by your definition. There is just not a lot of development there and most people are poor because there is no industry. My area actually has some good undeveloped land, it's just priced out of my budget.

>>1391153
I see. I find that balance pretty good, knowing you can find people if you need them but also being able to have your peace and quiet.

Would you live in places like the Pacific Northwest or Montana etc. where there is "pure" wilderness and no-one around for miles?

>>1391155
That sounds nice. I know some people who moved to Wyoming to work in the prisons. Seems adequately desolate but they ended up giving up because they couldn't handle the lack of amenities.

>>1391151
>How spooky is it to be in the sticks in the US?

Its not spooky at all, its very calming and laid back.

>>1391156
>Wyoming
Looks incredible pham. What were they missing? I'd look into getting a small plane and a pilot's license if I lived so far away. Just in case there's an emergency but also to explore.

Aviation is much more affordable in every way, over in the states.

>>1391157
It's probably the only scenario in which "muh guns" makes sense. Even if it's just to scare away animals and psychos.

>>1391157
am i the only one that can get spooked in the woods? i feel totally comfortable walking the projects or industrial areas at 3am, but quiet small towns and uninhabited wooded areas can still spook me. although last time i was in the desert, it was really nice; even just meandering out of camp to piss alone.

>>1391162
The desert is less spooky because you have an unbroken line of sight most of the time, unlike the forest.

>>1391163
thats true. i hadnt thought of that

>>1391162
what spooks you about woods?
i think the spoopiness is invigorating. reminds me of xfiles.

>>1391172
Remember the episode with the ancient insects that mummified their victims? Such a beautiful location.

>>1391174
That's exactly the one I was thinking about. I think of when I walk away from the campsite to take a piss.

>>1391176
It's the episode that made me stop watching X-Files as a child because it caused the exact same reaction to me as it did to you kek and I loved spending time in the woods as a kid, so it kinda ruined it.

>>1388859
make a spiralpump to let the creek move the water for you.

extensive write-up here:
https://lurkertech.com/water/pump/tailer/

>>1389004
I love the first one, it looks so comfy.

>>1391214
Excellent idea!

>>1391238
They're almost identical designs. I agree that it looks comfier but I don't like that it has windows on the ground floor. I would prefer mine to feel like a miniature keep.

>>1388483
Remove bridge.

Lay 4"D50

Lay 3"

That or pipe it.

>>1388859
Be carful anon. Rock is expensive. Any driveway over about 1/8 mile it will be wirth spending 8k on a shitty old dump truck and do it yourself. Then sell the truck.

JC?

>>1388891
Just pack the road good and crown the middle so it washes to the sides.

Also, you will probably want 1 1/2" road rock/base or whatever they call it. Its what most dirt roads around here are made of.

People always say they dont want to buy "dirt" and wast money on clean rock. You need a good base. And thise rock fines help shit pack like concrete. There is no dirt. Just rock.

Alternatively if you are bumbling in and out with a loaded pickup you can have a 10 wheeler dump truck come in and put his spreader bar on. Saves you money short term. You cant really blade it without throwing more shit over it latter, but only laying 2 tire tracks with 3" clean (not washed, clean) will save you some money and keep you from getting stuck.

>>1388930
LOL. Anon you read my mind

>>1388938
>agressive deforestation.

>>1388978
Do 3" tire tracks for a while until it packs. Will be wavy and shit but it's okay. Stary throwing full width 1 1/2" base rock down and once that packs have them dumo a full load off to the side so you can use a trCtor twics a year and fill chug holes

>>1388999
Ahaha! Wtf really?

>>1389004
I lived in a rock house. Piss fucking poor. Like living in a tin shack. You gotta insulate the fuck out of shit man

>>1389689
Nah anon. A cordless drill, paddle bit, and drip. I pipe a 5 gallon bucket of deisle onto a makeshift tomato cage thing with a needle valve. Fill hole with gas, light, turn on deisle drip for a few days. Takes about 4 days and half a gallon for most. Easy af tho and you could run a tin of 1 gallons

>>1390453
As a former window salesman F for pocket. Both in cost and shitty insulation. All those windows will tripple your fucking bill

>>1390462
Insurance is too high. My bro owns land with mud tuns. Not just talking.

>>1390548
Well i dont think its bad for an 1800s model...

>>1390701
The man hours it would take. Shit is decieving anon. It would take a swarm of trucks and 4 backhoes 3 months.

>>1390929
Cause cheap. All of those redneck bonfires and shit you see on the internet. This is where it happens and why the cops dont show up when you chuck pop bottles of gas in the fire, burn tires, or just fuckibg shoot at it.

>>1390966
About 2k an acre here in bumblefuck Oklahoma. Most always its worth it tho. Turn around and lease to cowboys for the property tac and most of the payment.

>>1391013
When trees start producing start worm farm.

Hell anon. Start worm farm now and when it starts getting full shovel some out and rplace the dirt. Worm casings (shit and dead worms) are fantastic for make shitty ground into top soil. My front yard was 3 inches at first mow. The back was over knee high full of earthworms

>>1391086
Driveway will be aids but u want the house as far from the road as fucking possible. Ideally the vack of your house facing it on the other end.

>>1391089
Temporary creek reroute. Dig pond in it. Fix creek.

>mfw spring fed pond

>>1391101
Realtor websites in your area. Maybe find someone house shopping and buy 10 acres as they vuy a house and some land

>>1391121
True. 99% of the time if a realtor has it then it is too high or fucked up. Most generally all of your friends and family know you are selling and will apread the word just to helo out thier friends and family

>>1391151
Not if you have minimul survaval gear and training. You could drop me anywhere in a 50 mile radious and i would be home in under 24 hours. Assuming i had a bic lighter i would have plenty of water even if i gotta boil it in beer cans from the ditch. 9/10 times the property has a barbed wire fence that borders it. Follow that. Most ranchers check cows daily.

Worst case scenario there is a tower of some sort or power line 5 miles in any direction. Bust in and turn it off or fell a power pole and run. About an hour after they start repairs walk down and tell them your car broke down amd you need a ride.

Most of america can be traveresed enough to find help in 3 days on foot. You pretty much have to live in alaska or the desert or try to die in the elements anywhere else

>>1391214
>2018
>not building a 2" ram pump

>>1391466
yeah, i'll agree three days on foot is about the upper limit for even an unprepared person. and even then, i can't imagine any situation where that would transpire that people wouldn't be looking for you besides intentionally stranding yourself.

>>1391151
Not very, the most dangerous areas of the United States are the high population urban centers, thanks to our policy of (((diversity))).

Rural areas are where everyone who can see the writing on the wall are fleeing to, whether they consciously realize it or not. Pretty much if you are intelligent enough to realize the necessity of moving to a rural area in the current state of society, you’re smart enough to plan ahead for the majority of unforeseen disasters or emergencies that can happen in low population areas.

>>1391466
calm down, les stroud

>>1391467
ram pumps have their place but come with some requirements and downsides.
They need to be somewhere around ten feet below their water source to be effective and they will dump 90% of the water where the ram pump is placed. No sure if OP has points lower than the creek that will have sufficient drainage and won't erode.

Setting up a ram pump can be a bitch too, if it isn't working properly from the start you have to keep tinkering with it and manually reset it every time, which means walking over to the lowest point of the property and back up again.

River pumps come with their downsides too, mainly water flow rate requirements and lifting capacities but they are low maintenance, and cheaper and easier to make and install.

>ywn live here
END

>>1388156
Looks awesome, you are doing a great job. Like Anon said before, get the most out of the dozer work now. Once it leaves, you might never ever get one again. Do as much as you possibly can at the beginning. plan out extra projects, berms, culverts, spread EVEN MORE gravel, just do it.
It will hurt to spend it up front. but you will never regret it

I speak from experience.

i need you to come fuck me

>>1391442
Rock/stone houses are good for retaining heat if the walls are thick enough. How thick were the walls on yours? OP could attach some thermal insulation to the inside of his stone wall cabin anyway.

>>1391449
That house has literally zero openings on the north side except for ventilation and pure glass on it's south side, with unbroken sun exposure (there's no trees or shit in front of it). That's a sun-trap, if the windows are at least good-quality double-glazed ones, it's not such an issue.

Now, if he had designed the north facade to look like this then it would have been a disaster.

>>1391456
You sell them for fishing or what? Cool idea

This thread is very motivating. Good luck OP I hope to see this place again in the future.

There are so many posts here asking the same questions that have been asked. Not to mention I'm not well. Depression, suicidal, etc. That said, I love you all.

>>1391879
OKAY.

>>1392002
If I can do it so can you. Life will live on all the same, anon.

>>1392011
Motherfuck depression. You can finally have your own compound!

Dedicate yourself to this, not only will it give you something to work for and occupy your mind with but manual work is therapeutic and meditative.

>>1388156
plant trees, possibly fruiting ones, willow; that good stuff! Plant a wide range of plants!

god speed anon

Plant a bunch of walnut trees. Free walnuts right away, and in 40 years you'll be able to sell the wood for a small fortune. You could leave that land to your kids and the walnuts and wood will pay the property taxes alone easily.

>>1389771
t. Never looked at Iowa land prices

>>1392625
Just like every normal person ever

OP hang in there goddammit you have a compound to build

>>1388156
Congrats OP, I envy you

>>1388413
>>1388156
Neat, so they basically cleared the land of trees. Buying a forested area and having yourself do the clearing can cost a fortune.


If I were you, I'd build a dream CASTLE or a house that's walled.

But for generic improvements, proper fencing will protect your investment. Clear up that small creek that I see in your post. If that creek is functional, you could generate some power out of it.

If you want fast, just get a cheap shed on top of the foundation and remake it into a proper house.

>>1393080
Or he could let the woods grow back and instead of using all that space for an unnecessarily big building. I will never understand people who don't appreciate forests

>>1393221
Fire hazard, lightning hazard, animal hazard, etc

>>1393230
lol stfu

>>1392011
I hope you get better. I’m slowly coming out of a long one. Did some lifestyle changes that helped. Feels weird. Four months ago I would have never ever thought I would ever feel good again.

Drop in some expensive trees and use the as a retirement fund, good wood will always make money and the maintenance will be very low.

OP, i think your stake needs more trenches and fortifications.

any updates from op?

>>1388349
RVA /k/ommando here; interested in seeing what else your logger is selling in the future. Would like to get in touch as well about target practice. Sick of local places. Noviomosa@outlook.com

>>1388168

Are you the same guy who gave advice to the one guy who posted a thread about drilling into his hand.

"H202, faggot. Procede to clean wound, bitch. Put bandage over it and let wound heal, pussy."

>>1395056
>gives personal email on 4chan
>being this retarded
I hope you like getting spam up the wazoo, you retarded faggot.

>>1388349
>I guess the god's were smiling upon me when I found it.
>god's
>this level of retardation
Holy shit. I knew /k/ommandos were retarded, but not on this level.

>>1392620
Furniture makers don’t want garden walnut trees. Forested trees have the length and grain desired.

Hey lads.

This post will probably be similar to my last one. I spent the Memorial Day weekend with family and friends, it's been raining like hell so I haven't even been by my new swamp. This week should I should have some real work starting to take place. I'll probably let this thread die so we can start a new one with more pressing questions. Such as well options, what to look out for, septic systems, camper needed for living in while I build the house. What kind of house? We'll need to discuss that too. There's lots to get down to, and I've appreciated everyone's help immensely. Thanks to everyone who has contributed. It's going to be a long road with this place.

>>1395856
awesome. ill keep my eyes open for the new thread

>>1395856
Hey you big dork here's a bump

>>1395856
contemporary

Start with a carriage house with 2nd floor living space. A place for tools and materials. Or a pole barn

I hear there is a chap on here who is looking for a bit of land to put a small cabin on so he can make small cast metal penis.

There is another chap who wants to start his own cult and one who needs some land to keep dwarves.

You sir are sitting on a gold mine.

>>1395856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze999YxdEMA

In the meantime, this guy on youtube as a channel building a house in Maine. Not entirely similar to your location but it shows what one man, sometimes with a couple of friends can do.

Note I linked an episode where he is raising the house, so it will contain spoilers if you want to start from the beginning.

>>1395873
Seconding this and the Chandler style posted earlier ITT

>>1395876
2 floors for a novice builder is unecessary hassle. OP has tons of room in his land to build a simple tin shed/workshop/tool space

>>1389150
It's the stupid fucking council abusing what little bitch powers they have t. sydneysider
Uncle cut down a tree on his own property and neighbour ratted him out to the council and he got fined several hundred

BUMP

>>1388444
the further west you go the lest niggers and communists you have to deal with. avoid major cities like the plague

>>1395856
hey lad if you need help im an electrical apprentice whos also central VA

>>1388938
>PERFECT

>>1388156
>>1388158
>>1388159
>>1388160
>>1388161
sometimes I wish I was american and could just buy shit like this

maybe get a tractor with like those pins in the back so you drive on it in the ground to make it flat out a bit like a snow slope machine

and then plant grass seeds or something? idk

Come back hotwing man

>>1395856
Recipe for the wings?

>>1395936
Well, the land and dickfarm are sort of a seperate gig. Attempt number 3,782 tonight. Edison aint got shit. Wish me luck lads.

>>1396440
Thats an aerator. Dozer can flattem most of it. Then you get to fight the rocks and roots. It's a little tedious but with some work op can plant seads luke the sod factories on youtube and have an 11 acre gold course dor a yard if he wants

>>1388444
In the rural areas, yes, it's very nice.

>>1388978
Gravel works really well. It is expensive, but so is running the tractor. You'd have to re-level the road about once a month with no gravel, they wash out quick. I personally don't like the noise. You can try a regular dirt road for a few months and see how bad it gets.

>>1395873
Do not do this. The amount of fucking pollen that will smother that glass will make you want to die

>>1397343
Few months no big. But he will eventually have to get rock. Around here its about 10 bucks a ton. And thats just for the rock. 10 wheeler (typical dumptruck) wil be about $200-$250 a load give or take and it doesnt go very far.

My advise would be to suffer withbthe dirt oatch and save for a shitty old dumo truck. Haul 1-10 ton by yourself.

Also hide a stockpile on site to fill chugholes

>>1395746
It isn’t called a burner email address for nothing.

Alright boyos. I'm not dead. I've made some MAJOR advances in my planning. AS ALWAYS, picture related.

I secured a basic cabin shell kit from some desperate fucker who had 3 different kits he couldn't sell. This sucker is 1800 square feet and only set me back $15k. If you go on ebay and search these things they're going for $50k at this size all day. It's all legit, stored in a warehouse out here, even got free delivery. Now I just need a foundation, the dozer, well and septic.

I'm sorry I couldn't get anything more exciting, I just can't afford it, and this thing fell into my lap. I found it in a thumb size ad in the local paper. These boomers... I swear.

Anyway, like I sad I apologize for getting a cabin kit, it was not my first choice, but at the price I couldn't pass it up, and I'm still going to have to put this thing together with my own hands.

So as of right now I'm in it for $28k. Not bad for a cabin shell that's 2 stories 3 bedroom and 11 acres, if you ask me.

Again, thank you for all the replies, I've read them all diligently, I just am not able to respond to them all tonight. I've got a real long day tomorrow situating things with this land.

Wish me luck things continue like this. I'm shopping around as much as possible, and checking everywhere for deals.


Bonus
>>1396669
Those wings in that tray...I'll share. I'm an open book.

They were cooked with a Jamaican jerk seasoning rub, salt and pepper in a crock pot for like 3 1/2 hours with a stick of butter. Once they were done, I browned both sides of them in the broiler to get dat crisp on the outside.

The sauce is a Franks base, maybe 1/5th part Worcestershire, dash of ginger, cumin, and turmeric, couple drops of blair's mega death sauce and a slice of butter. Applied liberally. Enjoy.

>>1397930
inb4 reddit spacing

inb4 I can't inb4

just did

Pic always related, the shell is basically like that, except a bit smaller and no roof gables. Hey man, one thing at a time. I'll keep you guys updated.

>>1397930
inb4 reddit spacing

Pic always related, the shell is basically like that, except a bit smaller and no roof gables. Hey man, one thing at a time. I'll keep you guys updated.

I took a couple more pictures the other day too, some of them are a little blurry, I'll post them anyway. Not really all that to see unfortunately.

>>1397930
good luck bro. still jelly as fuck.

Btw, I should point out the land is already turning greener. These pictures are from just a couple days ago, and they're much greener than the original pictures. I was out there today and it was even more green than these pictures. This rain is doing wonders for that place.

Last from me tonight guys. We'll talk again soon. Take care.

Fuck it, one more. Here's the floor plan of what I'm looking at, and what will more than likely be the final layout.

>>1390990
>>1390984
>tfw no peasant-built Italian mountain retreat

Any Californians here bought deforested land before?

>>1397944
are those inside walls load bearing or could you combine bedroom 1 and 2?

>>1397943
nice pics, looking forward to next thread

>>1397930
OP, when you're setting the foundations and building the cabin don't forget to orientate it correctly. That porch should be facing South. I can't stress the importance of orientation enough.

Hate to impede on OP's shindig but I'm in a similar situation. Front half of the property is mostly cleared, back half is wooded and ready to go. What can I plant fast to get that shit rewooded? I've considered bamboo but I know how fucking shitty that shit is and it goes goddamn everywhere. Basically I just need some fucking privacy so I can have my fucking land and be left the fuck alone. I want to plant at least 2 acres of shit because it's 4 acres to the property and it's mostly uncovered. Back 4 is heavy forest. I don't want to see no houses, no methheads, no nothing.

>>1391579
how do I get the bear?

turn it into a dirt race track and charge people for access

>>1390937
>03
dear anon, please tell me where how and when did you buy a place like that for that kind of money? since i have to get dome sleep now, if you have kik, kik me on shizzle1979, otherwise i will be checking this thread tomorrow if its still alive. thanks in advance!

>>1397930
fucking awesome, so jealous, land and a house for 30 k, fuck me where do i sign up

>>1390984
>>1390990
18k for this?
fuck! You had been lucky, I'm from trentino and I just invested a ton of money in farmable land, here the land is costy.
My dream is to buy a lot where it doesn't cost much and live of it, but I doubt I will ever manage.

>>1397930
Nice find buddy; a cosy little cabin to get you started. Doesn't matter too much about the design of it really, especially since you can dedicate a stronger design into the later primary house whenever that happens and at that price, its super justifiable. I'll give that wings recipe a shot.

>>1397944
Nifty plans; perhaps look into making one of the lower floor bedrooms into an additional storage area as I presume you don't need three bedrooms. As another anon said, ensure you orientate the building correctly. You can easily do some site analysis using online sources.

t. architect/construction manager (not the other guy helping you design)

>>1400964
What do you think of my suggestions thus far? This has really made me want to get some land out innawoods.
t. the other architect ITT

turn it into a pitbike track

>>1397944
Hey hotwing man I work round Richmond. That's a wonderful piece of land you got. Where can I find cheap land? I live with my parents.
PS if you want building/electrician help I'd be happy to help.

>>1388349
>implying I would ever charge a /k/ommando to shoot on my land
This warms my heart. I wish I lived nearby so I could hang out with you beautiful fuckers.

>>1401045
>What do you think of my suggestions thus far?
Quite good actually. Trying to keep up with who's who, but assuming you did the site plan I quite like it. Utilises the land and topography quite well. Primary homestead location is good and perhaps the barn/shed desired by OP could be located a bit closer to the proposed house for convenience; I don't know how else you'd use the land between the road and house though (perhaps crops or something).

The cabin suggestions were nice, however it seems OP has bought a cheaper woods style cabin with a larger footprint which I presume is more ideal for him at this stage. The Chandler residences (assuming you posted those too) would fit the site context and are super comfy and help detract from an overly isolated vibe. A combination of that style with >>1395873 would be the optimal outcome imo

It'd be cool it OP engaged you properly sometime in the future to design the actual main house. An opportunity to make something really special there.

>This has really made me want to get some land out innawoods

Absolutely do it if you get the chance. I own a stake of a rural forest property which mainly just acts as a hobby farm at this stage. I'd really love to design and build something proper on the site just for the sake of it. It has an old mediocre homestead which is falling apart, and a cabin half-way between the front entrance and the homestead (which is in the middle of the site). Come to think of it, the land is actually fairly similar to OP's. We've got a small dam/pond down towards the back, and a large cleared area in the centre surrounded by dense forrest.

Pic related was last time I went there after it got ravaged by a fire. That destroyed shed is only 300ft away from the homestead scarily, and a lot of our old beater cars got burnt out too.

>>1400138
Why is South so important? I was thinking of pointing it West, for the best view, into the woods.

>>1400964
I will keep everything updated as it comes. Like I've said, this is going to be a long process, so daily updates will be null. BUT, I will be an open book with /diy/

>>1401275
Look for land that's been freshly logged. Called loggers and ask if they've cut down any land for sale. Forget looking online for deals. Hell, check the paper.

>>1401308
<3 That /k/ommando is coming out soon

>>1401378
I never intended to build a cabin of this size. I've learned more about the deal I got. The guy I got it from actually died. He was a log cabin manufacture and dealer, his daughter now runs the company. They have 3 cabin kits in surplus, and she wanted to sell them, and she sold all 3 of them in 3 days. I got the last one. 65% off. I couldn't miss out on it. I hope things continue like this.
Anyway, lots of stuff coming guys, I promise.

>>1391783
That fucking jeebus anon. Coukd build twice the house for the cost of and ambiebt temp loss from all of that glass.

Ffs. Toss some ice in an aquarium in summer and watch how fast shit melts.

Underground like mole people is where its at yo

>>1391943
I found out that mealworms are extremely easy and cheap to care for. And they eat styrofoam. Figured i coukd start a big tree hugger company and run a styrofoam recycling plant with gubment grants.

Turns out the beetles they tirn into are devestating to crops and i would inevitably have a breach. Dont wanna rekt my entire county. Stemned into other worm raising for all sorts of things. Fish bait, fertiliser, chicken feed, etc... my buddy has a fish farm and i think we are still going to make a worm farm by it in a small shop. Not mealworms thi sadly.

>>1401555
>Why is South so important?
Not him but south facing gets the sun all day, I agree with the other anon that it is an immeasurable benefit if you're planning to spend a lot of time on there. Maybe face it south west to get the best of both worlds?

Btw if you decide to get solar panels they should be south facing for the same reason.

>>1401378
Thanks for the comments. You were spot-on with all those posts, they were mine. I do hope I get to design something for OP, his location really inspires me.

>A combination of that style with >>1395873 would be the optimal outcome imo
Completely agree with this. It's contemporary but appropriate to its context.

Your situation sounds pretty idea, have you ever toyed around with designing anything for it even as a "dream" project? Why did the fire occur?

My family does have some rural land but it's nowhere near as isolated as OP's and it's adjacent to other folks land so the idea of having a vast swathe of wooded land feels very liberating to me and I'm definitely on the look-out now for such a buy.

>>1401555
>Why is South so important? I was thinking of pointing it West, for the best view, into the woods.

Pic related. Since forever, porches with awnings and generally overhangs of all descriptions have been placed on the south sides buildings to prevent glare and overheating in the summer but allow light in the winter.

Judging from the layout of the house and how the designer placed storage units, bathrooms and kitchen in the top part of your plan (all of them spaces that don't require much heating or light) and the porch opposite to them, it's fair to assume these correspond to the North and South respectively.

>>1402172
>Your situation sounds pretty idea, have you ever toyed around with designing anything for it even as a "dream" project? Why did the fire occur?
I've considered it, but never actually have taken the effort to design something for it. I really should look into doing it sometime soon though just for fun and to perhaps bring more life back to the place - I doubt it'd ever come into fruition since all my family that has a stake in it wants to sell up soon.

I'd love to experiment with building methodologies on the property if I had time if anything. I always have the ideal property in mind as being on top of a cleared grassy hill or side of a mountain which is isolated to a degree, but also has vast overreaching views of its surrounds. Pic related is an example of the kind of land I'm keeping an eye out (ignore the building). Just need to save up a bit more. A bit generic some might say, but I just can't look past this type of location.

It was hit by a bushfire in the middle of summer and it was too large for the fire brigade to prevent for the majority of the property. I believe they were the reason the main homestead was saved though.

Plant lemon trees faggot!

>>1402307
>I've considered it, but never actually have taken the effort to design something for it. I really should look into doing it sometime soon though just for fun and to perhaps bring more life back to the place - I doubt it'd ever come into fruition since all my family that has a stake in it wants to sell up soon.

Once you commit to it mentally (for me that was starting a new project in AutoCAD/Revit with the topo plan as a basis), you've got the ball rolling and you will keep thinking up ideas in the back of your head during the day and processing the project like usually happens once you start an actual project. I would recommend you have one plan that's the "ideal" for the property but also look into things that can be built ultra-fast and ultra-cheap. They don't even need to be 100% weather tight depending on the climate where you're building. If you can use them to create a pleasant venue for your family to hang-out they may change their mind about selling.

>I'd love to experiment with building methodologies on the property if I had time if anything. I always have the ideal property in mind as being on top of a cleared grassy hill or side of a mountain which is isolated to a degree, but also has vast overreaching views of its surrounds. Pic related is an example of the kind of land I'm keeping an eye out (ignore the building). Just need to save up a bit more. A bit generic some might say, but I just can't look past this type of location.

It's really cool but for me, having grown up on a coast, expansive views mean looking at the sea even if it's just part of the view and not the whole thing. There's something incredibly soothing and liberating about expansive views in general but the sea compounds this effect.

>>1388938
pottery

>>1400445
fast growing tree link
https://www.thetreecenter.com/fast-growing-trees/

OP consider this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD_3_gsgsnk

>>1402503
>Once you commit to it mentally (for me that was starting a new project in AutoCAD/Revit with the topo plan as a basis), you've got the ball rolling and you will keep thinking up ideas in the back of your head during the day and processing the project like usually happens once you start an actual project.
Yeah that's true. I'm the kind of person who will just get sudden spur of the moment ideas and just do a heap of sketches on my notepad. I just need that project rhythm first though so I'll try bring that about and potentially start throwing it into revit/cad.

I'd also love the sea as well. There's just something spectacular about being on an elevated site like those hills and overlooking anything amazing and natural really. In some aspects I'd like a house on the beach front for ease of recreational activities, but honestly being set back slightly on a hill like your image is just 10x better. One day.

I was also actually designing a holiday house for a family friend of mine with a site quite similar to that recently, but sadly that project is on a hiatus due to their desire to travel (and therefore take the project funds with them). Quite an enjoyable project though since they gave me almost entirely free reign.

>>1388156
Dig a large firm, build a shoot house. Train for the coming apocalypse

OP

If you like motorcross, make a fucking bike track.
if you like shooting, make a shooting range (there's an old one here in Royston, it's literally 3 long lines of dirt lol)
If you like drones, make a drone racing arena.

Maybe even invest in a massive shed and rent it out? My dad was looking for ages for a large-ish shed. he's happy with the one he has now, approx 30 meters x 15 L/W

If you do any of the first suggestions, rent them out or something then thank me later.

Other anon here
Maybe you could use part of your land as an airsoft field? That's a nice business too.

>>1388156
keyline swales or you're throwing water away

perennial polyculture
food forest

>>1388444
No emissions in Southeastern Va (live in Norfolk), and cops don't give a fuck about expired registration as long as you aren't doing stupid shit or being an asshat.

how's the logging going

>>1388156
OP can i live in a tent at the end of your property? I can clean and stuff.

Make a moat or make a farming land for yourself

>inb4 thread becomes squatters wanting a piece of OP's hard earned land

>>1404850
wumble?

>>1405229
yes