/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Depends on what you are using it for/on. Research PSI and how it effects certain things. You can etch solid concrete with some of them. And that isnt ussually something you want.

>>1377995
>tips
A cheap gas powered one is still gonna be 10x better than an moderate priced electric one...

>>1377998
I want to clean my deck/driveway/siding etc.

>>1377999
I am planning to get gas

>>1377999
This. I have an electric one. Complete waste of money and time.

>>1377999
Trips confirms. Electric fucking blows. You might as well just buy a garden hose attachment.

>>1378003
Most gas powered ones are plenty for homeowner stuff, you don’t have to go crazy. But idk the exact specs of every one I have used. I mostly wanted to add this:

My neighbor turned me on to pic related last time I was washing my driveway. This thing made it so much faster. For $30, you will be happy you got it. It spins almost like a lawnmower blade and helps turn a 5 hour job into an hour job.

https://m.lowes.com/pd/Greenworks-Rotating-Surface-Cleaner-for-Electric-Pressure-Washer/4184917

>>1378010
Bepis, I have no respect for your opinion. Go back to your containment board

>>1377995
1) drain it when not using it and keep it neat & clean
2) dont get crap in the hoses.
3) go gas
4) keep the wobble pump clean
5) don't let the tips corrode, they are your best friend.
6) mind the oil levels pump and engine
7) prime the pump by turning the hose on, hitting the trigger until you get water (and no air), then start the engine.
8) don't accept leaks when operating. Correct them before operation. You'll be glad you did.
9) experiment with each tip and the distance it takes between the tip and object before it does damage. Learn to use it properly for each application. A 0 degree tip will drill through concrete at point blank range. Learn this before washing your car.
10) ensure the quick releases are positively locked before hitting the trigger. The tips or hose can come flying out at terrific speeds if they are not.
11) don't power wash the power washer.
12) don't power wash living creatures unless you intend pain or death upon them
13) if you go Walmart it'll be cheap (200) but you'll never find parts if you were inclined to repair it. The 400 dollar models (and up) usually sell parts.

>>1378010
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>>1378012
Those things work mang. Pic related has wheels but you don’t really need it because the water pressure keeps it floating like the puck on an air hockey table.

It seems like a gimmick but when you realize you no longer have to clean the driveway in 1.5” wide passes, you will love it.

>>1378016
Hey bby ;^)

>>1377995
Tips? Most pressure washers include them, even the cheap harbor freight ones.

>>1378026

Here's a tip: don't pressure wash in a bikini.

Even the cheapest garbo electric model (which is honestly enough for 99% of homeowner needs,despite what people in this thread say) will cut you pretty fucking bad if you slip.

Is 3200 good enough to strip paint or should I go with a 4000 psi washer?
I have an old 1800psi electric karcher and frankly it squats to pee and doesn't do a good job of removing paint... so wondering if getting a gas one is worth it.

https://www.ryobitools.com/products/details/1600-psi-electric-pressure-washer

Growing up, I've used electric and gas with gas being the only way to go, but now my parents got link related and it is kick ass. Idk why but this light little thing does pretty damn good.

I guess there's a difference in modern electric and electric from 10+ years ago

>>1378086
Can you use it as a laser cutting alternative?

>>1378116
Only if you use an abraisive. As long as you have a gasoline model, this is easy.
Add 1 part sand for every 5 parts gasoline in the fuel tank.

I prefer Rec 90 gas. It will ensure the fuel/sand mixture doesn’t spoil when you store the pressure washer for weeks or months at a time.

Buy it NOW while it's on sale. You're not gonna find 3000 psi for that price anywhere else. The Amazon reviews are good too

https://m.costco.com/PowerStroke-3100-PSI-Pressure-Washer-with-Subaru-Electric-Start-Engine.product.100338562.html

>>1378142
This nice one from Costco even costs less than Harbor Freight's shitty ones. idk how Costco negotiates such low prices with their vendors but I find myself more and more impressed with them. I call them the $200 store because everytime I go I can't get out without spending $200. It's convenient to buy in bulk though, I hate shopping so the less I have to go the better

>>1378142
That's a pretty good price.
The only ones I've seen cheaper the really cheap Chinese ones.

>>1378125
Won't the pressure ignite the fuel?

>>1378096
Removing paint from what?

For wood, 3200psi is more than good enough. For steel, you need 1000psi or more and a rotary tip.
You can fuck wood fibers up with a 1600 psi Kärcher and the standard tip if you hold it within 20cm.

The amount of liter per minute the pump throws out helps a lot because it gets under paint and lifts it off.
The tip you use matters, so does the condition of the paint and the wood under it.
If you're doing a dried out fence or deck, pretty much any pressure cleaner will blast paint/stain off.

ITT chuckleheads talk about work having never done any

>>1377995
my dad got a free one when he bought a snow blower. its more than enough power. that should give you an idea of how valuable they are.

>>1378211
You really think you're the only one that's ever used a pressure washer?

>>1378257
a car wash isn't a power washer Princess

>>1378260
>thinks using a pressure washer is an exclusive club
show bobs and vagene

>>1378257
>You really think you're the only one that's ever used a pressure washer?

All the people saying that you can strip paint with a pressure washer are full of shit. You can knock off paint that is peeling and practically falling off already, but you cannot strip paint that has any life left in it, unless you tear the board all to hell too.

>>1377995
I've had gas and electric. Unless your doing this as a profession get electric. Much easier, quieter and less bulky.

>>1378286
Owned a Honda 3400 psi power washer in the past. That coupled with a pinpoint tip will absolutely take paint off of most anything.

>>1378286
That’s why you add sand to the gas tank. It acts as an abraisive!

>>1378293
you're not funny you faggot

>>1378300
Seems to work with pic related, why wouldn’t it work with the pressure washer?

OP,

The first thing you need to consider is how much water will your spigot produce. AKA flow rate.

Most gas powered pressure washers require a flow rate of 2.5 - 3.5 gallons of water per minute.
Electric power washers require a flow rate around 1.8 gallons per minute.
The flow rate requirements and printed on the box. Most of the time.
The cuck who built my house used 1/2 water line to the exterior spigot and I cannot achieve the higher flow rate.
You might have the same issue if your city supplied water source has low pressure or your old pipes are constricted.
You can easily determine flow rate by fully turning on the spigot and obtaining the time it takes to fill your container. Do the math to calculate flow rate.

>>1378292
>. That coupled with a pinpoint tip will absolutely take paint off of most anything.

I agree.

But learn to read.

>>1378293
>>1378300

You leave my friend alone, you anonymous coward.

>>1378304
thank fuck this is just shilling, for a moment i thought we had two retarded cuntposters.

>>1378260
You're really insecure about something.

>>1378355
You're really sensitive Princess

Honda

Every pressure washer under $1k is pretty much designed to fail. The pumps are shit and not rebuildable.

>>1378142
i though subaru engine is worse than honda?

>>1378142
Can confirm. Roommate bought, I believe, this one from costco and it's pretty great. 3100 PSI is enough to do house siding and deck stuff.

Electric start is a stretch, though. It comes with a battery but doesn't have a charging circuit. You have to plug in a trickle charger to the wall to keep the battery up. Pull start is easy enough though, so I just use that so I don't have to cart around the weight of the battery too.

>>1378260
>Why didn't you love me daddy

>>1378613
because you remind me of your fat toehead of a mother

>>1378125
Face-palm... Troll much?
Sand in the gas? Only if you never want it to ever work again. Moron.

>everyone wanking on engine names when the pump is what matters.

I'm sorry I'm SORRY I was drunk when I typed putting sand in the gas. Of course the filter would stop it and it wouldn't be a total disaster. What I meant to say was put the sand in the oil , pour a handful in the crankcase that would be a perfect amount of abrasive for power washing just about anything

>>1378747
>he thinks he's going to find an AR or CAT pump on a domestic washer.

>>1378747
>being this adamant about pumps

>>1378724
>>1378812
If you’re dumb enough to put sand into the fuel tank, you probably shouldn’t be operating a pressure washer. You will get hurt.

Anyway that would be kinda cool, like how some pressure washers have containers for soap, what if you could use an extra fine abraisive suspension for those really tough jobs?

>>1378829
Filtered

>>1378841
;^)

>>1378844
Look around you faggot, you're the only one here, and there is a reason for that, which, soon enough, you will realise. Have fun while it lasts.

>>1378844
It got better reviews on Home Depot’s website. Seems like you have to find a media that works well with your specific pressure washer.

>>1378292
If the water doesn’t work, NEED SAND!

Never actually used one, I can’t even imagine the mess that would be left when you try and media blast your project car in the driveway. I guess it’s better than the dust of dry blasting.

>>1378845
So salty. What’s wrong? Something you need to get off your chest?

>>1378815
Pump is more important than engine though.

>>1378851
>>1378605
Aren’t pretty much all those small engines the same design? Like with 49cc scooters, even the cheap Chinese ones are based on old Honda designs.

So the engines should last fine for DIY projects as long as you take care of them. Don’t let them sit in the shed for 2 years with bad gas in the lines and carb. But probably worth buying something with a common carb in case you need to replace or rebuild it in the future since that’s the main problem that people run into with these small engines.

>>1377995
Get a combination nozzle including 25 and 40 degrees for cleaning wood.

Always start far away from a surface if you don't know the damage potential.

If your working near dirt, think about where the water will drain so you can avoid wading in mud halfway through.

Avoid wearing jeans or anything else heavy below the belt because it'll get wet.

>>1378010
Hey Bepis! I used to do tile. Can confirm. Anyone know what psi the average 6.5hp briggs washers run at? Trying to compare the one i am building to it in my head. Mine will run at 4,000psi. Is this good/bad/insane?

>>1378022
Jam a shop vac hose in it and take it inside.

>>1378286
Tell that to my dads boss and his brand new ford raptor with a 3 foot paint peeled off strip down the door a few years ago.

...faggot

>>1378293
No u.

A pickup tube and window screened sand should work tho

>>1377995
Watch this video nigger, and reassess your decision to buy one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIS3iEbsdAM

>>1378607
Change flywheel. Now it charges

>>1378813
Mfw 4,000psi cast iron pump waist high and a deisle motor.

Gonna be a fun time at the lake this year boys

>>1378844
Ffs this os diy and that os a T and a hose

>>1379018
That’s pretty cool. Except for having to dump the water out of the shop vac every 2min.

>>1379029
I guess the tube goes into a bucket with yer sand/media in it. Yeah could probably make it yourself with the right valves and hoses.

I used a 4200 psi model at work and it was an absolute joy to use. Cleaned the hell out of everything you needed to clean very quickly and I would love to own one some day. I have a little electric one I bought at a yard sale for $25, which I use almost exclusively for washing my cars and it does an excellent job. It's quick and painless to set up but ultimately it's dissapointing when you're trying to do real work with it. Buy as much as you can afford to.

>>1378844
>Sandblast metal
>Use water while you do it
>Oh shit nigger it flash rusted in 2 hours

>>1379213
Spray down the work with Hold Tight 102 (or equivalent) after wet blasting. Prevents flash rust for 48 hours.

A highly diluted Evaporust or CLR will work too. Just spray it out of a cheap agricultural pump sprayer.

>>1378813
Can you not buy a good pump and connect it to any rig? I THOUGHT COSTCO WAS COMMERCIAL GRADE! WHY DEY LIE TO MEH

Get one with metal fittings/pump. The plastic hose fitting snap off easily.

Gernie has alloy fitting kartcher has plastic.

>>1379050
When i did motel carpet and tile it recirculated. All we used was water and a good splash of simple green for the carpet and tile both. I think the 15hp briggs heated the water also. Dumping the shop vac would suck ass. Been looking into it. You can buy a wet/dry lid that just sets on 55 gallon drums. Cold quickly pop it off and snap ring lid the drums and haul off.

Around here tho just dump shit on the ground. Nobody cares. Was thinking 4" ball valve near top and on bottom. Top for air suction while bottom drains in like 12 seconds. Kick valves closed and pump back on.

Going to do some experiments and report back soon.

>>1379211
I agitposted in another thread. But i am putting a 13.7hp deisle on where the hydraulic pump is here. Trying to descide if love-joy type shit or run a v belt. Rhe only problem is it doesnt really use a suction hose. Was made for a truck with a water tank so no need. I am gointmg to have to build a metal box and set the pump in the water a couple feet. Really hate to swamp my motor and i cant find a tank or pipe large enough to sink 8 feet and be done with it. Considering making some sort of attachment for the trailer. Like a 20' length of pipe that pins on so i can just back the trailer off into the lake with the pump mounted on it.

Its a rather small motor but it should pull enough torque to run 1 hose near 4,000psi i think?

Thanks for the tip. Looking foward to those spray bars when i move to the dirt road

>>1379403
Fucks sake i fat thumbed it.

Try not to get cancer trying to read that shit

>>1379398
If you do the 55gal drum, make sure you set that bitch on casters or something because it’s going to weigh like 500lbs when it’s full.

Or... what about a garden hose valve on the bottom of the drum? Then you could hook up the hose to the bottom of the drum and run it out the back door of the building. So as you’re washing and the dirty water is being pumped into the 55gal drum, at the same time it’s draining right out the bottom.

It would be a bit of a contraption, but if you do a lot of cleaning it might be useful. And even if that garden hose doesn’t drain as fast as the shop vac fills it, the pressure once the drum gets over half full will move the water out at a good rate. Plus you won’t have to deal with the hassle of moving a 55gal drum full of dirty water as long as you get a long garden hose that reaches outside.

>>1377995
I have a 3100 psi Ford pressure washer. It's a great machine. One of the nice things about the machine is that the oil is separate from the gas. No mixing. It is my experience that engines with the gas mixed with oil are more prone to get the carburetor gummed up if you set it aside for a while. The Ford I have starts on the first pull every time. Even if it has been setting in the garage for months.

I can't tell if ops pic is a teenage girl or a woman in her 20s or early 30s who has aged well

Either way it was a good bait pic for my dick

>>1379588
When in doubt, look at the waist.
As women get older their waist gets wider.
And if she's had babby, then the consequences for the waist will never be the same.

>>1379584
>oil is separate from the gas
That is called a 4 stroke engine

>engines with the gas mixed with oil
that would be a 2 stroke enginer

>>1378105
>Idk why but this light little thing does pretty damn good.
Very simple: you just need to have enough power and PSI to get a job done. That thing is 13 amps at 120V, so about 1.6kW, which translates into about 2.2hp.

Here in Europe we almost exclusively use electric. This is a lot easier since we have a proper 230V electrical grid, which gives you twice the power for any given amperage. Real guys use 400V cleaners, I've seen up to 30kW(40hp) and 1000bar (15KPSI).

>I guess there's a difference in modern electric and electric from 10+ years ago
It's a matter of time before the American consumer market is majority electric.

>>1378848
>If the water doesn’t work, NEED SAND!
This. We use a water jet cutter at work (60000PSI operating pressure, git gud ya scrubs) and using more abrasive makes one hell of a difference on anything metal/stone.

>>1380482
Dude shut up.

The reason we use electric in Europe is those entry level disposable yellow Kärcher. They opened the market for cheap shit washers and people are used to their plug in convenience.

Electric motor is also much cheaper to produce than a Diesel engine and can never be a stand alobe self sufficient machine.

And because it is against the law to use combustion engine indoors due to exhaust, even though those hot steam cleaners for restaurants still use diesel fired burners and 400v to power the pump.

Professionals use both diesel and electric.

>>1380468
Some 2 strokes have a seperate gas and 2 stroke oil tank.

Better to just mic it yourself tho

>>1381610
What’s the smallest engine you have ever seen that in? Aren’t 2-stroke dirtbikes typically pre mix too? Only time I have seen the independent oil tank is bigger stuff like Sea Doos that are ~1000cc and larger.

>>1377995
Get one with a better ass than the model in your pic.

>>1381629
Suzuki dirt bikes in the 70's ( TM's) had a separate oil tank injection system for 2 strokes. Most people did away with them and mixed the fuel...not a big deal

>>1381629
Snowmobiles

>>1381935
Those are big too though, aren’t they similar to jet ski engines? Like 1000cc+ and 2+ cylinders?

Those are the two I could think of that use them, but both larger and multiple cylinders. Even bigger dirtbikes (250cc) are pre-mix, right?

2 cycle is on its way out though because muh EPA. Even the smaller engines. Now we’re getting 4-cycle leaf blowers.

Which I guess maybe I’ll ask while it’s here- has anybody used any of those real small 4-cycle engines on blowers or weed whackers? Pros and cons? Mostly are there any pros that are worth the extra weight and loss of power?

>>1380468
Of course it is fuckwit.

I'm looking into getting a proper washer soon.
Has to be a "self sufficient" unit with a Diesel engine, Diesel fired burner, at least 200bar, and able to suck water from a hose.

Any recommendations? UK/Euro based companies, preferably.