/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1326999
http://www.wesellschoolbuses.com/index.html

Rip seats out, register as RV. Buy land, pour level concrete slab. Let cure. Park RV. Pay property taxes.

>>1327003
That won't work. Temperatures get to freezing here, it's got to be done with something well insulated. Earth bags would work too, but I can afford cinderblocks so I won't waste time having to fill hundreds of bags with dirt.

Also how would I go about getting electricity and running water in that thing, or anything for that matter? That's my biggest concern right now, building seems easy but getting utilities does not.

>>1326999
>>1327017
This is what tends to fuck you. Tiny houses are a meme because they are a push back to a lot of building codes having a minimum size requirement. However, if you are in an area with a minimum size requirement then you CAN'T get a public utility hookup.

That's why most tiny houses run off of solar and use composting toilets and rainbarrels for water. Another way to go is to use propane refrigerator and generator and get a well/septic tank setup.
One of the best ones I can suggest for you is straw bale housing, it's slightly memeish, but just got added to the universal US building code (which local codes are based off of, so you will have to fight the board to get it added BUT you have an established building code to point to) for 1 story houses. Straw bales are cheap as shit, less flammable than regular framing, and you can do 80% of the labor yourself or with friends, it's just stacking them in place and baling them together and plastering them. basically you build a pole barn, then you fill in the walls with straw bales.
Straw bales are r-30-r-40 insulation, and standard exterior wall insulation is more like r-13.

>>1326999
>Pic related. I want to build with cinderblock because it has to be well insulated. Temperatures can get pretty low here.
>8" cinder block has an r value of 1.11

may wanna rethink that one chief

>>1327049
I can afford actual building materials, don't want to live in a straw hut.

>>1327057
What's an r value?

>>1327062
R values tell you how well of an insulator a material is. The higher the number the better the insulator. Standard insulation bat in a 2x4 stick framed wall, R-13. Plain old R-13 isn't close to enough if you're aiming for well insulated. Basically concrete is shit for insulation.

And don't shit on that anons suggestion of straw bales. It's a legitimate building material, and can be finished to look good (though it may not fit in with your neighborhood). You also say building 'seems' easy and didn't know what an R-value is, which makes me think you don't know what you're doing and aren't in a position to disregard advice.

>>1327080
I'm assuming he is going to frame and insulate the blocks.

>>1327084
you'd be better off stick framing and adding rigid foam insulation of the sheathing. the blocks would do dick

>>1327090
adding rigid foam insulation ON TOP of the sheathing***

i'm drinking

>>1327093
I was going on the assumption he was just gunna use blocks for foundation.....and then insulate the crawl space underneath...

>>1327098
yea but pic related

>>1326999
You close 4chan and start building it, that's how. Nobody here knows shit about shit. Get your information somewhere else.

>>1326999
Easiest way? Buy a small fifth wheel/RV/trailer whatever. They can be had cheap and are comfy enough while you build. Better than whatever shitty shed you'd likely throw together in two months.

Nice trips.

>>1327122
It's not a shed it's a castle mom RRRREEEEEEEEE GET OUT!!!!

>>1327080
what would be the R value if you inject foam into the cinder blocks?

>>1327149
idk, higher... I assume most foams will give you an r-value per inch, so just do the math. Probably not much though, probably better doing something like structurally insulated panels if you wanted to go that route

>>1326999
40k won't get you shit. even a <1000sqft house will cost 80k minimum. if you live in the US, buy a shitty run-down trailer that's on a decent sized piece of land in a good area. some years on down the road, build a house on that land and haul the trailer away. the property will be worth 4-5x as much as you paid for it.

you're welcome

>>1327170
I don't think that's accurate. Getting utilities set up is the main expense. Foundation, bricks, a roof, and appliances are nothing if you don't go too fancy, and I intend to keep it basic.

I think the trailer is the only quick option. The problem I have now is the real estate/land market is high right now and I don't think the bubble will pop within 2 months. Guess I'll have to be an apartmentcuck for a while ;-;

Wait what are the laws on camping in national forest land? There's shit tons of it here...

>>1326999
First off buy the land, when you buy the land you need to make sure it is zoned for residential and has utility hook ups when you buy the land call an electrician and have him set up a temporary panel for you then you call the power company and have them come and install the power then you have power, brick has shit for r-value better off building with 2x6 framing and using a r-30 insulation that will keep it nice and toasty in the winter and cooler in the summer building a 12x20 building wont take long if you get some competent help. but buying and building is probably going take longer then 3 months

>>1327174


you forget that anything you build will have to pass inspections, and will require waste removal and utilities beyond "Oh, i'll just shit in a bucket and wait until it rains" because if you do go for that, you won't legally be considered a resident of that plot of land.

at a minimum

- Septic system/leech field - must be engineered to fit land based on geotech
- Cistern water is fine but you need to check local rainfall to make sure you don't run out, need to size cistern at the minimum.
- Electrical is pretty much up to you, but nothing is as cheap as you're hoping for.

a very bare ass, legally-considered-a-residence-but-not-much-more kinda place will cost 10K to get all the shit squared away at a minimum. you'll need permit for everything, you'll need to get you lot converted to an address, etc. etc. etc.

It's not as simple "Buy land and set up shop" anywhere, and you can get fucked big time if you try to do this long term.

Qualifying statement - this does depend on state and muni from place to place, but not a ton.

>>1327193
I don't think there's enough rain water for collection, I'll have to be on the city's water or hooked up to a well, which is doable. There's tons of high production wells in the area. There's also places that are completely off grid with out houses that the county doesn't seem to have an issue with. My state is pretty wild west. There's also PLENTY of people doing the trailer thing, just you don't want to love near them. Not many high class people (such as myself) want to live off grid in a trailer.

>>1327193
>Septic system/leech field - must be engineered to fit land based on geotech
Start to finish that is 25 grand. You need to do some homework.

>>1327224
I wouldn't be worried about septic. Outhouses are approved. Heated water and electric are my only concerns, and solar is definitely a viable option but I can see that being expensive even for a knee room house.

>>1327228
*one room house

>>1327213
>apartment cuck
>having "room mates"
>being kicked from anywhere

>high class people (such as myself)

Haven't laughed this hard in ages, thank you m'lord.

>>1327236
I know. This whole situation is humorous but it sucks.

I guess I'm doing the RV thing. I found out that one of these bad boys is only 50k. Why the fuck do people even live in houses? Fucking foundation cucks I swear.

>>1327236 #
I know. This whole situation is humorous but it sucks.

I guess I'm doing the RV thing. I found out that one of these bad boys is only 50k. Why the fuck do people even live in houses? Fucking foundation cucks I swear..

>>1326999
Buy a old house with some land.

>>1327017
are you a hot white woman? I will have about $50k this spring when i sell my condo and want to buy something off grid in New Mexico.. there are lots of great parcels over east of Albuquerque ... some with structures but most lack a well so can't get a bank loan.. is $50k enough to get https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/131A-Rancho-De-Shama-Lot-6-1_Cerrillos_NM_87010_M21980-40044#photo11 anything going on like ten acres?

>>1327279
I'm a hot white transwoman, will that suffice?

>>1327281
no.. no that is not...no.. go away.

>>1327282
Aw, come on sweety, I'm going to get surgery eventually.

>>1327284
are you gonna DIY the surgery too?

>>1327279
That's in the middle of nowhere and it's ugly desert. That's poorfag off the grid shit. If there's one thing I have it's a decent savings and good credit. I'm gonna get something nice in northern AZ with sexy trees all over the place. Talking 400k minimum for 10 acres and that's considered an unheard of deal.

You can come if you bring your own trailer and help build the house.

>>1327149
>what would be the R value if you inject foam into the cinder blocks
Ass, because cinder blocks are shit at insulation, and you're only insulating the air gap. Heat will leach out (or in) through the cinderblock itself.
When you see stick-built wood construction, the amount of material that forms a "cold joint" between the outside of the house and the inside of the house is minimized.

What you want is ICF blocks. Foam on the outside. Concrete on the inside. No cold joints. Most importantly, because you obviously don't know anything about anything, it'll be piss easy for you to build.

>>1327288
I'll probably paint over the blocks and put drywall on the inside anyway. It doesn't get that cold, temp gets to the teens in the lowest. There's plenty of cinderblock homes here and people don't seem to be dying in them. You're assuming I'm in fucking Alaska or something.

Your best bet is to find property with existing water sewer and gas and electricity hooked up. Tear down whatever is on it and pay someone who knows what's up to pour your foundation and run any mains.

>>1327281
Google "Sisterwood".

>>1327310
People charge a fuckton for a tiny cabin on a half acre, like 350k, meanwhile 2-3 acres alone can cost 225k and the hookups aren't far. The only thing you can't have is sewer, it has to be septic or an outhouse, and gas has to be propane.

This is a rural area so whoever planned it had in mind that the houses would be very far apart, so on each lot there's a hook-up for water and electric. So yes my plan is viable, I just don't know wtf to do with the hook-ups.

Get a 400 sqft studio apartment with a murphy bed.

>>1327332
No damnit. All the apartment complexes here are full of poopoo people or loud obnoxious college kids. The cheaper you go with housing the worse neighborhood/complex you're going to be in. I'm sick of this shit, I'm getting out of the loop.

You could build a detached garage with a loft above and then the rest of the house later.

>>1327344
WHERE WILL I POOP/PEE/SHOWER

>>1327351
with a bathroom

>>1327354
Garages have bathrooms now?

Build the fucker out of wood so you can add on easily! Pier and beam is cheap to do. Dig holes pour concrete use blocks and wood to get to desired height for house floor. Thrn build walls separate and errect them for a particulat roof truss size. Just watch something like finehomebuilding on youtube and Matt risinger to get some ideas. Do lots of design of how to lay studs and look for your mistakes on paper. Look how buildings are build while in them. Retial places and eateries crack me up with all the face facades. Make friends with people wo do plumbing and electricity

Lots of states you can do the electricity in your house but not the plumbing. Just find your building codes for your county. Insulation, miisture control, and water shed are the bigest things to worry about. Study for 2 months, make it small to start with( plan to add on later) and get a structure up in the next two months and finish the inside as you live in it. Good tools make jobs easier. Best of luck.

>>1326999
Bruh just rent a 1 bedroom apt.

>>1327279
That place is a fucking shit hole. Just passing through going and getting something at walmart and I could tell people on the street were walking with things they stoll from somewhere else. Plus living in a desert has a lot of exspense compared to not living in a desert and close ish to water ways and even small cities. I'm from Illinois and working in Arizona for 2 months and was on vacation before that too here, cali, and Denver.

>>1327288
Still almost nothing cause the cold will travel through the block. Thrn that makes air condinsate on the inside and get your druds and dry wall wet and then mold and mildo damage at the very least. In order out in. Siding, material that lets water move hehind siding if needed, moisture and air barrier for weather zone, close cell foal sheets (if me), osb or plywood, studs, ballon insalation or soray foam, (moisture and air barier on ballon insalation, then drywall. Do it right your house is air tight and ads to the insalation value since hat hair isnt moving out side. And them you dont pay a mortage every month heating the home.

Wait, why the fuck arent you just buying a house and taking out a loan and pay that off as fast as possiblem? DRUG MONEY?

>>1327396
No, but lofts do.

>>1327288
I'm not op, I was wondering.

>>1327412
>and taking out a loan
Take a look at this goy.

>>1327427
Even vold travels through the wood stud in a wall. Loans are great if you can pay them espicially if yoh donit in the fraction of the time. And its great to have credit too. And if he has money like that he probably has some credit unless he got te money in a non conventional way

>>1326999
Pretty sure you are a faggot tinyhouse troll.

But if not PLEASE FUCK DONT FALL FOR THIS SHITTY MEME.

A man alone can buy a fucking 16x40 shed unfinished for $10,000 delivered. Plenty of room and framed on 16" centers so you can take all the time you want working in doors and build a nice pad. You wont even need to build a house then unless you want to.

Wild guess of under 20k to have it pree wired and insulated with carpet and linoleum installed.

Either pay cash for some land or use the other 20k for a down payment.

I spend 5 days a week inside 1 half this size and it's as good as any house.

Plus you dont have to fold your bed uo into the wall and tunnel through a 1 foot hole in the attic just to take a shit.

I fucking hate tiny houses so fucking much...

>>1327003
Metal exterior.

Insulate well anon.

>>1327017
Pay an electrician.

Watch a few pex water instal video on youtube.

BUY METAL MANIFOLD AND SHUT OFFS ON EVERYTHING

>>1327057
1.11 r value.

My sides.

Op might could make do with a junk semi trailer. The food hauler ones with the reefer units are insulated.

Could sell the axles and toss it on blocks.

Make sure its tall enough to comforably crawl around under it. They sell insulation that has plastic on both sides. Should be fairly simple to glue it to blocks. Or run 1x4 along them and hammer 2x4 footers in so you can staple it up. Do a layer inside and hang some mdf and you should be shitting in 53 foot long cotton.

>>1327062
Africans been doing it for melenia. Go ahead anon. Mow all summer and pile it on top of your mid hut!

>>1327080
This OP. And double insulated windows.

Beleive it ot not drafts aren't your main concern most of the time. If yiu don't believe me go feel your glass in your 7p degree home. Also if you have central heat and air the vents are likely there. They trying to heat and cool that fucking glass.

>>1327093
He doesnt live in a hollowed out polystyrene block inside a shipping container.

Fuck. Op. Unironically just insulate a fucking shipping container for a couple years and use it for storage or a workshed after.

>>1327105
LOL.

Best advise from diy ever

>>1327122
This sadly. You can stuff a queen sized bed in most and a real shitter and shower stall if you feel like doing some demo and give 0 shits what it lools like.

You can do it properly if u wanna waste tje money

>>1327140
Ahahaha!

>>1327170
This most likely.

Land around here was $1,500 an acre 10 years ago. Now $2,000 is almost insane low. Pretty rural area also so shit doesnt change as fast.

Can cut the trailer up and make a bitchin car trailer. Just find hubcaps. I thibk trailer house axles are illegal in some place.

>>1327248
>buy used military 6x6. $6,000
>hardcore maintenance and restoration $10,000.
>have over $30,000 to build wtf ever u want.

Personally i would just find a descent 5th wheel and have it dropped off.


>foundation cucks.


Shit is funny af anon

>>1327324
Power poles are over $1,500 each unless you wanna rent a trencher and bury a lone

>>1327396
Every descent mancave shop i have been in has a shitter anon.

>>1327427
>taking out a loan.

Literally the smartest, safest, fastest way to properly invest in real estate.

>>1326999
here you go bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCKkHqlx9dE

>>1327496
Sure thing, Schlumberger.

>>1326999
Checked

I fantasize about getting a few acres and slowly building a vacation home / retirement homestead. It's just a dream given my bank account, but nonetheless ...

First, I'd go full blown PrimitiveTech on a shelter as I built a bitchin' outhouse. I'd probably add some sort of solar shower as well.

Then I'd build a cabin that'd later serve as an inlaw suite.

Then I'd build a barn, then focus on the actual house.

>>1327540
Cont.

Your $40k would realistically fund a few acres and the outhouse.

That'd be doable in 2 months, but if I were in your shoes, I'd get land and build a little 8x12 cuck shed as well as get a gym membership, then go from there.

>>1327285
Yeah, with a mirror and scissors.
Wanna watch?

>>1327335
Just get a decent house with a 40k down payment.

>>1327557
If I had it to do over, I'd get a diy shack in the woods over a house.

They're so damn expensive to maintain. Unplug from the shitty (((matrix))) and live a little more unconventionally. It's how every other generation before our time lived.

>>1327529
Let me dumb this down. For burgerland and most 1st world teir nations.

Borrow money. The less equity the less reason for or posibility of lawsuit theft

You save more capital. Can spend $200k on 5 1mill apartment complexes or buy 1 outright and lose it the first time some faggot doesnt know how to walk and breaks his shit.

>>1327553
Please fuck no.

Fun fact tho. A local vet did his own vasectomy. People all wtf at him but he's right. Done it 4 million times whats 1 more...

>>1327557
And land and this

>>1327605
Yeeeeeeees!

Spend 30 years slaving away to put a roof over your head and fund the banking and insurance industry.

>>1327611
If by

>Yeeeeeeees!

>Spend 30 years slaving away to put a roof over your head and fund the banking and insurance industry."

You actually mean buying real estate, pulling equity out every 6 months for more, and getting rich as fuck while doi g it then yeah.

I hope I die 10,s of millions in debt anon. Idgaf if the tax man wants 90% if the 10% makes me rich.

>>1326999
>Realistically I can call her on her bullshit and get another 2-3 months
you can get way more than that. evictions are slow as fuck to process. if you dont plan on renting in the near future, stay as long as you want

>>1327409
>That place
can you be more specific? Are you referring to the location of the lot in that listing , Albuquerque/ Santa Fe or New Mexico in general?

>>1327886
Albuquerque, just did not at all feel safe there with my girlfriend. I've walked Chicago a 2am and not cared. I really wasn't a fan of any of the towns out there that only survive off the interstate or survive off one or two particular business for a large area. Recources are not abundant so you would need to live close to a city to keep stocked up and keep crime rates in mind when looking for land in the middle of nowhere. People joke about just dumping boddies in the old abandoned mine shafts out in Arizona and such cause it actually happens and there are lots of them scattered around.

>>1327886

buy a shipping container and some solar panels. then furnish the inside and make it comfy and add some heat and insulation. then expand with more shipping containers. get your water from a creek or a river. make the shipping bury the shipping container with a little bit of earth and dig a hole to set it into. add drainage so that you aren't flooded.

>>1327954
>muh shipping container

They make prebuilt sheds that are a lot cheaper of an option, idk why so many opt for containers... But I'm going to look into this since you brought up that they can be insulated. My main concern is whether or not they rust over long periods of time. I also found out you can get a fully livable bomb shelter built for like 16k. That seems like a good way to skirt minimum building restrictions until I can get the house built, because who the fuck will know it's there?

Due to time constraints though I'm going the RV route. The land I'm looking at already has electric so I just have to run a cable to it. Water can be hauled in jugs and used to fill the reservoir. Internet is going to be a pain in the ass though.

>>1327248
>found out that one of these bad boys is only 50k
lol no it's 500k

>>1327174
14 days in a row maximum, and then you're supposed to leave the area for at least 7 days. BLM land is 21 days, if you have some of that around. Yes, it is enforced - not super strictly, but if you camp somewhere in a national forest for 4 or 5 weeks, expect to be told to leave.

>>1329763
Nah, as long as you do not try and setup a permanent/long term camp and don't use the established camp sites you can stay as long as you want free of charge. You can not do any clearing of land or such, and unless you find a clearing you can not have a fire since you need 5 feet clear on all sides of the fire. As long as you move camp every week or so and do no damage the rangers will just stop by for a chat every so often and make sure everything is as it should be. They just do not want paths/campsites getting beaten in from people coming/going to the same off trail site for extended periods.

>>1327282
There's a riptoe in my stew.

>>1327460
Ty anon, I appreciate this advice. I'm not OP, but >>1327003 is me. This is my new plan for the structure which is built upon said concrete pad. I appreciate the help.

>>1330137
Yep, a shed will work well. Make sure to get one that you have space to add insulation to though.It'll also help a lot long term if you get drainage lines/culverts cut in when you pour the concrete pad, instead of having them above ground and having to heat/insulate them.
Speaking of, straw bale anon here, one thing that you should probably consider is insulating the slab. Otherwise the concrete will suck all the heat out of the floor.
I'm suggesting something I came across a while ago, using papercrete or strawcrete (a mix of either paper or straw and cement) in the middle of your slab to give it an R-value (generally 2-3 per inch, not much but the middle 3 inches of a 6 inch slab would still be 5-10 which isn't awful).
I've seen some articles saying it's not worth it because of the risk of the straw or paper rotting or subsiding, but generally it's a nonissue because it needs both moisture and air, so as long as there's an inch or so of solid concrete around it it should be good. The method I heard was pour concrete, wait for it to partially cure, then pour additional concrete while spreading in straw, then cap with a layer of pure concrete. Another method is to put in straw bales, and make sort of a waffle. pour a layer of concrete, wait for it to cure, put in the straw bales, then pour the whole slab on top.
It uses about 20% more concrete than a straight slab, but it's a ton more labor. OTOH if you're doing the labor yourself it's just the extra concrete and 2 calls for the pouring truck instead of 1, so it may be an extra $2k to have an insulated floor and not have to worry about your drainage pipes freezing.

>>1326999
You can thank me later by inviting us over for burgers. we might when help you put it together. if nothing else, read through the site material and get some inspiration.
http://aidomes.com/tiny-homes/

If want practical shelter don't fuck around trying to invent something new until you already have something proven. Ignore the containertards (I'm the guy who posts practical container advice and owns four, most of the rest are tardniggers who should be vivisected then set on fire) and get an RV or a singlewide mobile home.

Containers don't have rust issues if you start with a "one trip" or clean "cargo worthy" container but I suggest using those for shop space because you need tools and equipment to make them livable. I fucking love them for shops tho. If you get one with some rust, sandblast and coat with industrial roof coating or roofing membrane. NEVER use chain store roof coating. Contractors laugh at that shit and the white "latex" is porous and a moisture trap. 3M 5200 is the sealant of the gods. It's designed for through-hull marine use and is far superior to conventional caulks.

Mobile homes (and mobile offices, which are built tougher and available designed for very cold weather) are fast, easy and will last as long as you need them.

Since you have power available, have a power pole placed near your home site and fitted with an outdoor service panel with plenty of outlets. Immediate power is very nice to have. I did that for my shop and still use the outdoor outlets for welding etc. Of course you can plug in an RV immediately. Your location is sekret but I'm in CONUS so 120 and 240 single phase are a good combo here.

Every homeowner should have a truck or at least a car with a trailer. You could haul water in a plastic tote or agricultural tank. Potable water should have a clean tank intended for potable water. Not a problem.

If you build on site instead of having a mobile or modular delivered, I would absolutely do a container shop first. It will save your arse. A used railroad tie under each end is ample support.

>>1327100
>Pic related

>>1330334
I love this, and I now want to build this as a permanent structure after the plans detailed here.

>>1330315
I also very much appreciate this information as well. If someone were to prep this and do the labor themselves innawoods, what would be required? Could I get a wheelbarrow mixer and build a slab from a few smaller squares? Do you have any literature on amature concrete work?

>>1330334
Fucking took 29 links to find this or i am stupid or both so i will save anons some hassle

>>1330334
And 16k for a 15x15 when you can do pic related, likely with a lowes store credit card if need be, spend a few building the inside anyway you like, have it appraised, get a home loan and pay like $250 a month for a cuckshack ina woods.

Might want to not do this on land you are trespassing on tho.

Pic related is lowes bit you can shop around and get a 16x40 for like 10k

>>1326999
this you?

Fuck residential zoning. Agricultural zoning is far less restrictive and I insisted on it when scouting the properties I bought.

>>1327564
>They're so damn expensive to maintain.

Bad house choice or you're doing it wrong or you are paying someone else. /diy/ing all my work for many years has been quite pleasant and saved gobs of cash I can enjoy spending elsewhere.

Mixing your own concrete is doable but a laborious asspain. I do my own forms then call for a load. Truck shows up, self and bros knock out da slab, then chill over frosty libation. I specify fiberglass reinforcement in the mix. Costs little extra and works very well.

>>1330334
Wow, those look like ass. I'm a longtime dome fan, too.

Here, these guys have been around since the 1970s and have some topnotch hardware:

http://www.domehome.com

>>1327170
This is what I did. The land was free (inhereted) but I couldn't afford to build a house so I just bought a decent used trailer and had a well dug and we dug our own septic system. Biggest expense was getting electric and propane hooked up. Idea was to build a house eventually but honestly im pretty satisfied with the trailer

>>1326999
Hire a lawyer and sue landlord

>>1332123
Trailers can work quite nicely. Fuck style points, they keep the rain off and give you a warm place to shit. I'd build a workshop before building a house if I lived in a trailer. That also makes doing the home vastly easier, but I'd likely keep expanding the shop.

>>1327062
>>1327062
not op but why not build it with cinderblocks then put an outside layer of strawbale covering it all for the r value.
you can plaster it or clad it to make it look normal.

lol 40k is child's money. That won't even come close to getting you land, utilities (or off grid well / solar) and somewhere to live.

You need to get a camper and a real job while you work out the whole life thing.


I'm actually working all this out right now. My forever home land was 180k, 40 acres. Well, septic and building the road up was another 60k. Solar will run about 25k, wiring to the grid another 10k. The home itself will be all high quality and designed for off grid living. Around 2500 sqft will be about 400k (with shed, walkways, driverway ect), the 2500 shop, storage and guest area will be another 100k. Over all around 800k to be self sufficient, should be completed in about 2 years, paid off in 5 more and ready for the wife and I to retire in before we turn 45.

>>1327460
You live in a house half that size, yet hate tiny homes?

>>1335615
16x40 is plenty of room if you dont stack fucking drawer stairs all over and have to assemble your bed daily. Just need a box to shit in and fan out. Bedroom. And living space.

>>1327960

>livable bomb shelter built for like 16k

Where?

>>1326999
Spend as little as possible on the land, I cannot stress this enough. Get an RV to live in while you build. Consider moving. Cold climates are so, so fucking overrated. Costa rica is great. Hawaii is great. Florida and most of the south is gorgeous. Drop 1200 on a trailer and spend your time slowly sourcing cheap/free materials so you can build an actually nice home. It doesn't have to be big but you'll be living in it for a while- think it through. Obviously you need to be careful where you build. I strongly recommend you find a rural area where building codes are either not enforced or non existent.

>>1327049
Preach. Straw bale housing is cool as fuck and actually works. I've seen them in person, they're very nice. No one know's what's inside the walls unless you tell them my dude.

>>1327105
underrated post

>>1327122
this lol

>>1327140
lmao'd

>>1327170
wrong

>>1327460
this. so much this.

>>1327606
that's badass

>>1330628
fucking lol

Some cities have incentives for tearing down old, cheap houses and rebuilding them, so you don't need to find an empty lot zoned for residential per se.
Especially if it's a basic house that you can keep the main structures on.
If you find a 100k house and walk into a bank saying you want to put 20k down, and have 20k for renovations, they'll give you a mortgage at a rate so low you'll have the house paid off in 10 years max.
Aside from that, the trailer home is your best bet
Using tiny home methods on something like a double wide is a great way to get a lot of bang for your buck without the legal problems actual "tiny homes" bring

>>1327224
I just had one done for 7k. What the fuck are you on about?

>>1327248
Lol

Although a standard used RV is right up your alley.

>>1327017
Who the fuck told you cinder blocks were insulation?

Im not OP.

What do you guys think about this: I always envisioned centering an old school fireplace in the middle of the main room (considering that heat radiates out in a circle) that it would be the most efficient design?

I was also going to mount a water barrel on the second floor, and try to run the hot water pipe as close to the fireplace flue as possible, hoping some the ambient heat would heat the water coming down (probably wouldnt do much), but i was wondering if the fireplace could pull double duty.

I know fireplaces are very ineffecient(sp), but im trying to get the most of out of one if it is installed.

>>1337412
It could be agood idea but i recommend you to use a bio ethanol fireplace, it's space-saving, don't need for a duct, works well, can be stopped in seconds

>>1337412
I had one and it needs no special installation

>>1327460
So jack, riddle me this. Who's got the best prices on this shit? I see them everywhere on the sides of the road by this and that company and they are all obviously from the same factory somewhere. Who the hell makes them?

When they deliver these I have this idea in my head that I could have a basement laid out that ran the length of it for all the utilities etc. "just build a house!" I will, and it'll be a pole barn house and this little fella right here will turn into a workshop/bar/fuckshack most likely.

>>1327080
>Basically concrete is shit for insulation.
Autoclaved Aerated Concrete is pretty based, I've watched a lot of youtube videos on it. It's also referred to as aircrete. Basically you mix foam with your concrete mix and it makes a super lightweight building material that is insulated well.

OP google Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

So... as an aside from someone completely ignorant of building homes and shit....

....What's the problem with NOT having your plot of land with a tiny home being considered a residence?

Are we talking City-Ordinances will have you evicted? Refusal to connect power, sewer, water? Are you in the clear if you're outside of city limits?

She's fulfilling her dreams, what's your excuse?

>>1327493
At that cost if you lived in tornado alley you'd be stupid not to bury a line. Just have to make sure the power drop isn't too bad if you're running 600 ft into your innawoods.

>>1326999
Go for http://www.buildbag.nl/ it is a concept which works, it is owned by a youth friend of mine, you can build fast, cheap and durable...

>>1327062
What's an google?

>>1337412
Google "rocket stove mass heater"

build it using styrofoam blocks, they insulate well and are easy to place.
There is this couple on Youtube that are building a whole house with it (or at least the garage part).

It's basically lego and you fill it with concrete, or even with dirt or sand.
You could reuse them if not used with concrete i guess.

>>1341322

dutchfag

>>1326999
Don't waste your time. 40k will get you a good down payment towards a decent mortgage providing you have a steady income.

Buying land is dead money unless you can develop it and with 40k thats a no.