/diy/ - Do It Yourself

first thing you will have to get is a infra red repeater
it is a device that lets you hide your components and still be able to control them via remote

also for the actual electronics, maybe check into a rack mount system? this way it would simply drop into the cabinet

... dunno, its just an idea :)

>>125960
STOP!!! .......for a minute........

if the original components are tube-based, take them out carefully and ebay that shit. if you can, take it out all as one piece. people will pay good money for ancient complete tube audio amps and such.

>>126478

8 track that is tube based? Were they still using tubes for stuff like that in the 70's?

>>126478
>>126478
>>126478

this - especially the reel-to-reel and 8-track. people collect those.
and if there are valves in anything DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ANY CAPACITORS OR YOU CAN KILL YOURSELF.

lol this has become a heated conversation
removing the equipment should be straight foreward
unscrew, pull up, unplug wires
as long as the unit itself hasnt been plugged into an outlet for awhile, capacitors lose their stored power gradually over time
to be sure, you can always hit the pins with a multimeter

I really doubt that op has tubes. Nobody really cares about 8 track. Reel to reel may be worth a couple hundred though, if it works. These stereo cabinets are a dime a dozen, go to town on it.

To get the signal in, just add another couple feet of cord to the end of the infrared bulb, placing it outside of the cabinet.

Going to leave the 8 track and reel to reel in it, I'm only updating the record player due to it not working.

I'll try my hardest to not to touch a capacitor.

I'm also going to look into an infared repeater, and a rack mount. Thanks guys!

They're making bluetooth powered remotes now, look into it. It's exactly what you want

Here is a shot of the insides. All the junk at the bottom is cables and a mic for the reel to reel.

And here is a shot of the guts of the thing.

>>126603
looks good to me, no tubes in there :D

>>126973
>no tubes in there :D

Noooo.

Is " =( "

>>126973
I didn't see any either. It's a bit too modern for that sort of thing.

Anyone have any reccomendations on audio recievers or speakers I can use inside?

>>127160
depending on your budget
you could get something like this (see pic)

>>127328
Looks a bit expensive, how many audio inputs does it have? Also, whats the brand/model?

OP, can you tell us the the model number? I can see it's Magnavox already.

Have you thought about using one of those car FM modulators? You could either steal 12V from somewhere, or add a 12V power supply somewhere in that cabinet.

>>127429
This what you're looking for?
I'm positive the 8track was added later, possibly the reel 2 reel as well.

That reel-to-reel's worthless. Worth no money at all. Not worth trying to sell.
...You can just, uh, go ahead and ship it to me and I'll get rid of it for you.

find a home theater receiver, you can connect anything you want to it
build a bracket so that you can install it virtically into the cabinet (faceplate up)
then for an easy dvd player, drop in an xbox next to it

look at what this guy did... its kinda what im talking about, modern receiver dropped in vertically

>>128184
forgot link derp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTFlwOvbeeY

>>128184
You pretty much described exactly what I'm going to do. Instead of a dvd player, I'm putting in this ipod dock that has a cd player built in. I'm also adding inputs for 1/4
jacks, so I can hook up a keyboard or guitar amps. I will also be adding bluetooth capability.
>>128172

Going to have to pass on that, sorry. I still have the original mic's and everything. It's pretty rad, the cabinet wouldn't be the same without it.

>>127160
i didn't think the whole thing would be tubes, but the audio amp might have been.... he reel-to-reel indicates it was a higher-end setup in its time; RtRs were never cheap.

anyway--dem loudspeakers (1).... if they test good, i suggest you ebay em. hi-fi horn loudspeakers are hard to find nowadays, and somebody will want them if they still work

the other speakers (2) aint nuthin

>>128280
I'm dissapointed, I got my hands on some reel to reel tape today, and it doesn't work. Looks like the pickups are rusted so it wont read. Anyone have ideas on how to clean/fix them?

I want to keep the speakers, I'm going to test them with the new reciever, if they sound good I'm going to leave them in, but if they don't sound good I'm going to put modern ones in.
Not sure if I'll ebay them, I don't need the money, and I really like vintage audio/film equipment.

>>128309
If there is actual corrosion, use a very fine rubberized abrasive, like Cratex.
Finish with a microfiber glass cloth.
Then clean the lint with cotton swabs and alcohol.

>>128261
well its good were on the same page, the ipod and guitar inputs will be found on home theater av receivers
some even come with pod docks
should start looking @ receivers and the features each has and decide from there
and if you ever decide to disassemble the magnavox woody, you can always use the receiver for your home surround sound

a good place to start digging is here;
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=488&name=Receivers

>>128649
Here is a shitty paint mockup of what I'm planning right now.

The cd player in the bottom left is an iLive cd/ipod dock, that has rca jacks for the speakers. I'm just going to use rca cables to hook in into the receiver from there rather than those little speakers.

>>128842
some yamaha and sony receivers come with an ipod dock
the yamaha comes with a front usb so you can actually plug straight into it without buying a dock
also, i see you are adding a input switcher in there, save yourself the trouble and look at another receiver with more inputs

you are wanting to reuse the existing record player and reel to reel?

>>128846
I'm using a new record player, the small portable one pictured. The reel to reel is staying in, even if I can't get it to work.
I'm going to make a storage box for cables/remotes where the am/fm radio is, using the front panel of the radio as the lid.

The reason I picked that receiver is, most other receivers had a ton of unnecessary video inputs like hdmi, cost way more, and are lacking on audio inputs.
Plus, I work at radioshack so I get a discount on that one, and it's only 100 bucks to begin with. I would be willing to spend a bit more though if I could find one with tons of audio inputs.

>>128851
this would be an excellent unit, it even has a phono input (modern receivers dont have this) for the record player or reel to reel
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-VSX-501-/200704118530?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item2ebae5cf02
its a pioneer vsx-501

>>128861
Doesn't look like I can get one of those new. That one on ebay is a non working unit.

>>128874
thats where your going to have to search, modern receivers dont have a phono input
you need one of these if you intend on using the record player or 8 track or reel to reel because these all have a phono sudio output
without the dedicated input on the receiver, you will be required to buy a phono preamp so that you can get the signal to the regular audio input of that sherwood

Also, I just ran the am/fm radio through the old speakers, and they sound kinda bad. Any recommendations on raw speakers I can put in? Or should I go with some bookshelf speakers or something in the cabinet?

>>128878
That sherwood has a phono input. It also has a dedicated tape input, I suppose I could just buy a phono preamp for the reel to reel if I can get it working.

>>128861
when looking for replacement speakers, you will have to match the speakers to the amp, in this case the ohm rating of your receiver
most receivers handle 8 ohms but some will drive 6 ohms
you can also look into car audio speakers if they meet the ohm requirement, just dont look for anything that is rated over 150watts rms
maybe like a set of 8 ohm 6x9s?
also found another receiver that has a ton of inputs including a stereo phono...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Stereo-AM-FM-Receiver-/130634302485?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item1e
6a694415

>>128890
The sherwood's manual says to use speakers over 16 ohm when using both the a+b terminals. It is a 100 wattx2, for a total of 200 watts. This means each speaker should be 16 ohm with 50 watts?

>>128890
http://www.sherwoodusa.com/pdf/RX-4109(A).pdf
Here is the manual. I'm really thinking this one is going to be my best option.

it shows that you can use 8 ohm speakers for stereo
and you have to bump up to 16 ohm if you put 4 speakers on it
sounds like it can overheat easily with such a high ohm rating
being that your setup is stereo, your good with 8 ohm speakers

i know you really want the sherwood because you can order it from work and all, it only has 4 inputs and based on the manual, the amp cant handle much unless you add an external fan blowing into the case

>>128930 I don't really need more inputs, it would be nice but the switch box is fine for me. The heat issue is definetaly a cause for concern though. I'm probably going to just roll with it unless I can see another option. I don't really want to buy a used one on ebay

>>128932
>Oops, accidental green text

see if you can get the Sherwood RX-5502 through work instead, the amp is stronger and can handle more speakers @ 8 ohms
looking in the back picture of the console, it looks like 4 speakers
there is a company called Eminence that makes reasonably priced speakers up to 16 ohms
you can do research here http://www.parts-express.com/
find something that would work for your specific setup and search amazon to find it cheaper

i think the cheapest way to put speakers in there is to find 8 ohm 6x9s and replace all 4 with them
you should get pretty good bass response and modern speakers typically have separated drivers low/mid/high or also called a 3-way driver
so sound will be exceptionally better

>>128938
The rx 5502 looks good, I would only need a two way switcher for the bluetooth/1/4 input. So that would save a bit. A bigger amp would help a lot. I'll check out those speakers.

>>128941
I'll check out some of those. I can always build up some custom mounts to put them in

>>128945
Oh, and how many watts am I looking at? I'm not to familiar with the terms used with reciever. I know I need four 8 ohm ones.

Thanks a ton for all the help!

>>128946
the actual output of the receiver amplifier is rated by RMS and Peak wattage
RMS is the actual power that it constantly outputs
in the car audio world, the manufactures usually advertise total Peak power which is generally 2 times the RMS
for example, a car amplifier advertises that it is say 600watts
600 peak watts divided into 4 speakers (channels) equals 150 peak watts per speaker, take the divided by 2 method and you get approx 75watts per speaker RMS

taking this information and applying it to the sherwood for example is as follows
advertised 200watts, 4 channels 25watts rms each or 50watts rms into 2 speakers

>>128951
So I'm looking for four, 25 watt, 8 ohm speakers. Or two, 50 wat 8ohm. Correct?

>>128953
yes, just remember to look for a RMS power rating while researching :)
actually, does radioshack still sell raw speakers? i know they used to years ago
Optimus or Realistic was the brand name i think?
(i used to work for radioshack years ago, discount was pretty good for special orders)

>>128956
No we don't, the only thing we have are in ceiling, or in wall speakers. Which I suppose could work if I can't find anything else.

>>128960
Scratch that, we also have bookshelf speakers as well. Just not in our store, I could just have them shipped to us if needed.

Looks like a great project, as for the issue with the remote, I assume it is some sort of IR/UV based device which is why it needs direct los. I would disasemble the unit you are going to be installing and locate the ir/uv receiver (it looks like a LED) and then just remove that, and add some extension wire then wire it back in the same way drill a hole and put the original opaque cover over the top for looks or whatever.

>>128963
this is what i use on my home theater setup
the receiver, satellite box, blue ray, etc is located in a closet
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-RFX2001WM-Remote-Control-Extender/dp/B0033SZZYM
it comes with the 2 ir boxes and the little stick on ir transmitters

>>128967
Awesome! That looks perfect for what I need.

Now I'm contemplating if I should repair the old turntable, or just install a modern one like I planned. At the least the turntable will need a good lubing, belt, and a needle.

>>128972
as long as the motor operates smoothly, i would go ahead and do a once over like you said, replace belt, clean, lube
you will have to add a rca connector on the audio output so you can plug it into your radio
these connectors you can get at work and are easy to use
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103423&filterName=Cable+type&filterVa
lue=Phono+%28RCA%29+plugs+%26amp%3B%23038%3B+jacks

>>128993
It actually has phono output already, the problem is power. It plugs into the board with a molex plug. The reason it doesn't work right is that it spins a little bit too slow. I think a belt and lube will fix it, but there is the chance it is the motor.

>>129007
does it say what voltage the molex connection produces?
if you find that its the same power as a pc supply, you could easily test the motor with the computer psu before ruling out the motor
there should also be a speed controller on top of it to change rpm for different size records

>>129054
I have it set to the right speed, it's just barley noticable that it is slow. Maybe an rpm or two. I'll have to check the voltage.

I just went to best buy and pc richards, I think I'm going with an insignia 450 watt reciever. It has enough audio inputs, and has way more power. I'm looking at a pair of polk audio bookshelf speakers, and a subwoofer for the speaker end of things.

>>128993
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia%26%23153%3B+-+450W+5.1-Ch.+A/V+Home+Theater+Receiver/2244402.p?
id=1218315551126&skuId=2244402&st=insignia%20reciever&cp=1&lp=2

Here is the receiver

http://www.pcrichard.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=77416&parentCategoryId=2&categoryId=7
0000&subCategoryId=70070

These are the speakers

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+10%22+100-Watt+Powered+Subwoofer/8417527.p?id=1213047115936&s
kuId=8417527

And there is the woofer.

>>129077
I wont be buying the speakers from best buy or pc richard though, I'll save almost 100 bucks by buying them off amazon.

bump

these would be a viable speaker option
because of the bracket they are mounted to, you could EASILY mount these exactly where the old ones are, keeping the Stealth original look of the unit!
i can attest to these speakers as i have installed them in my parent's theater room
large 8" woofer for great mids and punchy bass, built in crossovers, price is for a pair!
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083703&p_id=41
01&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10837&cs_id=1083703&p_id=41
01&seq=1&format=2

>>129140
>ipod
>terrible photoshop job

hahahahahhaa, go kill yourself

>>129152
Wow fuck you. Like you're doing anything to help.
>>129140
Pretty neat, the reciever placement is pretty much what I'm looking at. I like the idea of putting wood panelling to cover up the empty space.

>>129152
its a mockup chopped image
its not made to fool anyone into thinking that its real
good try though, dont you have to go back to /b/ and post cp now?

>>129122
60 bucks for a pair? Thats a pretty sweet deal. They sound good?

yeah they sound good in my parents house
they have 4 of these in their theatre room