/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1181297
>normies
Seriously?

>>1181298
This.

>>1181298
>>1181300
What else would you call the people who buy this shit?

>>1181304
People without the skills or knowledge necessary to complete the task at hand due to lack of experience or training?

$200 for this piece of shit

>>1181305
I'm not sure what experience or training you need beyond basic house maintenance work to make this shit. It's pretty simple.

>>1181310
>$200 for this piece of shit

That is some shit
Mind you, does anyone actually buy them?

>>1181319
Yes, apparently. I've gotten dragged to those big, middle-class retail furniture stores when out doing errands with others and holy fuck is nearly everything bad and cheap, but sold under marketing terms.

>"Rustic"
>"Industrial"
>"Handmade" (in India out of spare wood from a mango farm)
>"Distressed look"

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>>1181298
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>>1181305
Lurk moar newfags

>>1181298
>Seriously?
4chin has more than one board gramps, and most are populated by actual autists. You should expect some crossover.

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>>1181297
The pipe alone is at least $100 though

>>1181369
It's really not... where are you buying pipe? Also clean and paint scrap pipe is an option

>>1181297

You and half of this thread need to get out more.

Lots of people appreciate cool stuff, make tons of money doing something, and don't mind spending 200 bucks on something cool that you guys think everyone is an idiot for buying instead of making.

Making is cool. Buying is cool too.

If you could calm your autism for 5 minutes you might figure out how to MAKE SOME EASY MONEY.

God I love the morons on this board.

>>1181378
Lowes.
Maybe I over exaggerated, but it's still at least $5-10 for each individual piece.

>>1181297
take this shit back to /r9k/, we are not your autistic peers

>>1181385
>we are not autistic

Hello, newfriend.

>>1181385
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>>1181380
Buying has never been cool.

>>1181380
Are you trolling or actually retarded. I genuinely can't tell.

>>1181326
Yeah it looks like shit I used to knock up for the garage to rest dirty tools on.
There are ways of doing it well, like using actual, old reclaimed hardwood timbers from sheds, barns and the like which has a bit of character and old tea and shipping chests with the logos, customs stamps and stuff on them. I can appreciate that, but some shitty pine from a pallet or packing crate is just fucking rubbish.

People are funny with money though and what they spend it on, I'm not a salesman by any stretch of the imagination. But I can't figure out their shit half the time.

>>1181310
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>>1181400

Once Time as he prowled the world, his hair grey not with weakness but with dust of the ruin of cities, came to a furniture shop and entered the Antique department. And there he saw a man darkening the wood of a chair with dye and beating it with chains and making imitation wormholes in it.

And when Time saw another doing his work he stood by him awhile and looked on critically.

And at last he said: "That is not how I work," and he turned the man's hair white and bent his back and put some furrows in his little cunning face; then turned and strode away, for a mighty city that was weary and sick and too long had troubled the fields was sore in need of him.

>>1181350
Is this implying that I shouldn't have to buy my electronics due to all the components I should be salvaging from thrown out TVs and such? I agree with this. But can anyone tell me how to reuse old solder?

sawhorses, clamps, tables, chairs, benches, workbenches, garden beds.

>>1181297
You light screams " I am poor and have no fucking taste.

>>1181310
thats typically why people dont get anywhere.

whole bunch of skills they take for granted and dont work on because of mental illness.
not everybody is good with computers, electronics, wood and not many people want to be or have time to be. some people just wanna buy shit and admire it.

are you fucking surprised yet?

breaking news just in:

most people will buy cheaps chinese tier knick knacks from you rather then ebay because not everyone wants to or has someone to teach them how to use ebay.

shocking stuff.

>>1181424
>But can anyone tell me how to reuse old solder?

Solder sucker or solder wick a large amount. Melt it down and pour it into stick molds. Use the solder sticks as you would normal solder wire.

>>1181407
>Lord Dunsany predicted shabby chic
Well fuck me

>>1181298
Yeah, normies.

>>1181380
...wut

>>1181463
Well. He just observed that as there have always been fools who misinterpret why some old things are valuable, there are greater fools who waste their lives making those travesties to turn a buck. When I see that kind of furniture I feel sad for those craftsmen who outsmarted themselves.

>>1181380
Hey Rabbi!

>>1181516
I'd say the bigger fools are those buying deliberately shabby items, not the craftsmen. The craftsmen have a legitimate economic incentive (assuming the shabby items sell for more than the new ones), while the purchasers are simply driven by a misguided sense of aesthetics.

Whether you regard earning money doing something you don't particularly like as wasting your life or not, it's what a lot of people out there do without much choice.

>>1181424
I've reused hundreds of pounds of solder. Just scrape the dross out of the wave machine, spoon it in to 5 gallon buckets, recycle the buckets of dross to solder manufacturer. They usually give you 30 or 40 lbs of fresh solder bars for 100 lbs of dross. Bigger ratios if you want sn100. Lower ratio if you want sac305.

As far as recycling resistors and shit, I'm sorry, but no. When I can buy 100 resistors for a dollar, it just doesn't make sense to spend my time recycling old ones. You'll spend an hour, presumably worth between $20 and $50, harvesting and sorting around 20 resistors, costing you a minimum of 100X more. That's some serious rainman shit if you actually spend your time doing it. Just dump $20 on a frikn' digikey order of a variety of common values; it will last you years and years. Christ.

>>1181573
Well if you're taking apart these things anyway like many of us do, there's no harm in harvesting all the passives, assuming they're not all SMDs. But if you've got a hot air setup I bet you can just put the board upside down, heat it up, and all the components will just drop out, through-hole or not.

I'm not wave soldering or anything of that kind of scale, so it would probably take years before I had enough beads of bad solder to send in to a manufacturer. But what is it that makes old solder not wet properly? Even with extra flux it doesn't seem to behave; I'd quite like to know what makes old solder not wet. Maybe it's dissolved metals, or possibly allotropy, I don't know, but I get the feeling a little electrolysis could fix things.

>>1181446

also more people are getting into "local made" stuff.

I make things out of pallets i get for free and sell them to hipsters that have more money then brains.

I make light fixtures like in OP's pic when i can find the pipe for free or cheep. but there is not enough profit in it for me if i have to go to a box store and buy all dem joints and unions and crap.

>>1181297

With lamps made out of pipes like OP's pic and this one. is it possible to make the valve the off on switch?

be it a twist or a lever.

What about putting some kind of gauge on it that makes the needle wiggle around when it has power on?

>>1181582
yeah of course, you could do something with a potentiometer so you can dim it or even just make it a hard on/off

>>1181304
People who don't have the time to fuck around with this shit?

>>1181310
>I'm not sure what experience or training you need beyond basic house maintenance work to make this shit. It's pretty simple.
Because the first time you picked up a spray can the finish came out perfect, right?

>>1181407
Fake distressed wood just pisses me off. Spend all that time making something nice, then spend some more time ruining it.

I have a friend who does this. She explained she can charge 3 times more for a distressed piece then the original.

>>1181582
>is it possible to make the valve the off on switch?
Yes. You take the valve apart, epoxy a 120v rotary switch inside, then reassemble. You can't do this with every valve, though. youtube has some videos about it.

>>1181559
>while the purchasers are simply driven by a misguided sense of aesthetics.
I think buyfagging is shit and don't do it either. But a misguided sense of aesthetics? Just because someone likes something you don't doesn't make it bad. It's just so that someone doesn't like what you like. I think that tule for example is complete garbage but I honestly do have anything against someone else who decides to like it. It a "so what" situation.

>>1181582
A little analogue voltmeter would work well, but you'd have to get a non-chintzy one, which is pretty hard to find. And interesting idea would be to put a ~1-10Ω current shunt in series with the bulb and put a ~1-10V AC voltmeter across that, so you could see the voltage across it increase as the bulb warms up.

The valve, you could fix it to a rotary switch, but you would get a snap action instead of a smooth turning. The rotary switch should probably be a low voltage one because its surrounded by metal pipes, and hook it up to a relay of some sort with its own power supply. But instead of that I'd use a PWM dimmer and have the valve be your potentiometer, preferably one with a switch built in as well.

>>1181604
I was referring to the "fools who misinterpret why some old things are valuable" from >>1181516 as being those buying the products as opposed to those selling them. Now sometimes I agree that a distressed wood furniture will match a room better than a new piece, regardless of how it was distressed, but turning it into a cult of aesthetics doesn't feel to be in the spirit of craftsmanship. But as a capitalist I accept the reality of buyers giving artificial value to less valuable products.

>>1181326
My god, that shabby chic shit. See it all the time on facebook for sale pages and on craigslist.

>>1181582
make the valve only able to turn a certain distance one full turn left and one full turn right. apply some contacts et voila.

>>1181350
i unironically collect passives from old electronics

>>1181559
There's always a choice. Making artificially distressed pieces because dumb people pay more for them is a form of contempt for those customers, which makes you a bigger fool for going into the game knowing it's a ruse, yet getting caught up in it all the same. It's a self-delusion that leads to contempt for your work and ultimately yourself. Time is what we have. Time is the most valuable thing in life. Putting any other value above it is tragic. If your heart's not in your line of work, you need to find new work. Customers aren't the suckers. You're the sucker for pandering to them wasting your life with work that isn't genuine to yourself.

"Work is love made visible. And if you cannot work with love but only with distaste, it is better that you should leave your work and sit at the gate of the temple and take alms of those who work with joy.
For if you bake bread with indifference, you bake a bitter bread that feeds but half man’s hunger.
And if you grudge the crushing of the grapes, your grudge distills a poison in the wine.
And if you sing though as angels, and love not the singing, you muffle man’s ears to the voices of the day and the voices of the night.

>>1181688
>If your heart's not in your line of work, you need to find new work.
Tell that to the wagecucks. But if you're working a job you don't enjoy to make money that you spend enjoying your hobby, I don't see too much of a problem. Everybody needs to enjoy something in live, but we can hardly enjoy everything we do. Even though nobody (read: a small amount of people) enjoys the dirty jobs, somebody (read: a larger amount of people) has to do them or society won't function.

"And if you make furniture with loathing, your carpentry will be splintery and harsh, and hipsters will buy it off you for double the RRP."

>>1181450
>Use the solder sticks as you would normal solder wire

you dont use it in the same way since wire contains flux.

>>1181297
$400 in pipe fittings.

Fidgit cubes and soinners make me want to sabatage all round bale fags.

Teach these autistic lazy cunts to weld their own hay hooks and fucking get to work stacking in the barn.

>>1181326
This 100%.
Used to deliver furniture in a big city.

Quality hardwood furniture mixed with random overpriced palletwood trash.

Paint flag on pallet. Guaranteed sell of $375 in 1 week. Seen rockstars come in and drop 5 years of my salary on some furniture and rugs...

#1 customers are suburban cul-de-sac bitches and newlyweds bored and thirsty on the military base.

Aint even shitting u. 2 of us bearded dudes, 250 pounds, 110 degrees and bucking hundreds of pounds of furniture. Those thirsty bitches all bit lock the door and force beer on you. Sadly i had a gf and i couldnt fuck a vets wife. Just not right.

Damned sure flattering tho. Motivated me to eat right and hit the gym. Take extra shirts and birdbaths throuout the day.

>>1181332
I'm onky autistic when my anciety acrs up and i chig red bulls and coffee...

>>1181386
Lol!

Hello old friend.

>>1181424
Just buy solder. They make desokder tools u could use to melt back down but time and electricity probabky more than just buy solder.

Kinds like $8 in resistors woukd save u a week of dickassing around with trash.

I check my wallet. Descide mybfree rime, flip a coin and go to work. I try and be most effecient but dont stress. Who cares if i waste $12 on a fucked up guy faux mask rather than make my own.

Pic related. Fuck u WISH app.

>>1181582
Shoukd be pretty easy. They come apart for rebuild. Mayne toss a button or light switch in and put a stopper so you cant smash switch to pieces.

>>1181382
Naw, not unless it's red brass (which your right if it was red brass)
However this is just galvanized steel, probably $0.50-$2/piece max at MyNards. Then some nice bronze spray paint for $5-7.
I would say $20-$30 if you had to buy everything new including the bulb and paint and plug

>>1181724
For your education anon : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_mask
"Faux" means "False" in French. It has nothing to do with the anonimoose mask

>>1181298
Normalfags*

>>1181297
>it's cheaper to drill holes through money than it is to buy washers from the hardware store.

>>1181380
>reddit spacing

>>1181724
Wtf am I even looking at here?

>>1181582
Wire the shield to hot and help Darwin out.

>>1181770
He's right. Why have i been wasting money on washers for years.

>>1181310
>the boards aren't even mitered
Come on.

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>>1181910
I actually think that kind of light fixture would look pretty cool in the right kind of room. That kind of room is not a hipster's basement, unless the guy has a steam boiler in one corner and a collection of pipes going everywhere to power all his bench tools. I don't suppose you can just power a compressed-air tool on pressurised steam, can you?

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>>1181991
Real money is cheaper than fake money...

>>1181999
would be ok 'cept for the reddit spacing

>>1182003
>steam powered tools
Yes, you could but it would get bloody hot.
There were tools (probably still are) like steam powered drills and hammers. But those were for major construction.

>>1181304
Consumers

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>>1182009
If you live in a country with a currency that has holes in it you have an easier time too.

>>1182033
Norge please...

>>1181724
>he actually bought one

Jesus Christ dude, how does your girl feel about this? Oh never mind...

>>1182196
Did you just assume my gender?

that much hardware and a $5 bulb makes that fixture more expensive than almost every light I own.

>>1181298
Back the Fuck off??!!??

>>1181332
Yeah but diy has never been that way. In fact, I would say "Normie's" are more capable to /diy/ than the majority of people on this website.

>>1181297
When someone has one job, their free time isn't worth their hourly rate. It's something priceless they'll never get back.

I've calculated I'd need to value my time at $30/hour for ordering a pizza to be worthwhile, but people earning much less than that still order pizzas.

That lamp will look dated in a few years.

>>1182261
Normies don't exist, and most of those calling others normies are arguably more normie themselves, with their obsessive desire for external validation.

>>1181350
I do both...big bin of circuit boards in the shop to harvest from if I just wanna prototype

>>1181602
This always confuses me. When I make stuff, everyone says it looks like shit, and even my normal commercial furniture that's just a little old gets people to call my house a rampant shithole not fit for human living.

But bed frames that are literally just discarded shipping pallets ziptied together go for hundreds of dollars.

The fuck, man.

>>1183625
>everyone says it looks like shit
Don't invite those people back.

>But bed frames that are literally just discarded shipping pallets ziptied together go for hundreds of dollars.

Design is like fashion - some things are In and some things aren't. Right now, aged raw wood with a light finish (aka reclaimed shipping pallets) is the In thing. Back in the 90s, pale fresh pine or another blond wood was big. 80s was neon colours. In 5 years, it'll be something else and all those crappy pallets will be back in the garbage.

But back to your original point - take a look at the pictures of those shipping pallet bed frames. The entire room will probably be white, with all the colour in picture frames, the pallets and a few pillows. So they are creating a harmonious whole. Maybe if you spend some effort in making the textures and colours at your place work together, people would be more impressed.

>>1181297
>easy to make
true
>cheap to make
false

It's called I would make more money doing my job then making this.

So I will fucking buy this and come out in the green while working on my own shit that I find more fun.

>>1181298
normie detected.

>>1181297
No way this is $100, maybe $75.

Now let's say I have to start by finding out hardware store that has necessary piping.

Then figure out how I would wire the thing (assuming I know nothing about electronics, I'd be very concerned about electrocuting myself with the metal parts)

Then measure and draw plans and prototype.

My second lamp would probably be close enough in quality I wanted.

I've already spend more than $100 in pure time figuring out how to make the lamp + all the materials (+ possibly stuff I broke)