/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1167039
Why?

>>1167039
You OSHA guys can't even begin to understand the definition of being cucked. Try working at a mine with MSHA. Useless fucking cocksuckers are the mother of all government regulation faggots.

>>1167063
There are some retard mutherfuckers out there anon. Hell, i'm crippled for life from a 6 foot fall.

But at the same time i am not putting on a fucking harness to step up 6 inches off the ground onto a belt. Msha and osha are both out of their mind retard faggots.

>>1167039
I will say tho, there is nothing like cutting donuts ina 90 ton haul truck ;)

>be me
>slangin coax cable
>have to go help bro at a plant
>get to plant
>watched 10 min safety video a month ago so I could do a 5 min delivery
>show card
>go right in after fat guy spends 10 mins walking around my van looking for bombs but never opens the boxes I'm hauling
>drive 5 mph
>take 20 mins to go across plant
>steam shooting out from pipe leaks all over
>everyone ignores it though
>nearly get hit by loader driving 6 mph
>madman.wav
>find bro at admin building
>just need to help him pull a run across the roof
>just have to stand there to make sure wire doesn't tangle
>foreman from plant is there watching
>wouldn't help bro despite the fact he's been standing next to him the whole time
>hands me a harness
>"it's to keep you from falling"
>hands me hard hat, gloves, glasses
>spend 5 mins untangling harness
>foreman just watches
>head up the ladder
>foreman takes his union mandated 5 min break
>gets one every 30 mins
>disappears
>get to roof
>go to hook on
>no hooks
>no wires
>nothing
>ask bro wtf
>says he knows
>asked foreman but he said it's mostly for show
>k.gif
>stand there and make sure wire doesn't tangle
>5 mins later we're done
>climb back down
>foreman is back
>hand him gear
>leave
>get chewed out by security guard for going 5.5 mph
>get back to office
>tell boss I'm never going back

Fuck OSHA

>>1167126
>spend 5 mins untangling harness

this is how I know you are retarded

>>1167111
OSHA's standard is 4 ft for fall protection.
Get it together mr cripple.

>be texaco
>shit on your contractors
>skimp on maintenance
>foster a culture of coverups
>explode
>spill 70k tons of oil into a national park
>explode again
paying the fines is cheaper than fixing the crumbling 50 year old piece of shit so it's never gonna stop

>>1167150
Thats 1910 (general industry.) 1926 (construction) is 6 ft. MSHA is "any time there is potential for a fall." (Need to get in the bed of a pickup truck? Harness up, Howie.)

>>1167039
What is OSHA?

>OSHA nightmares

You mean simply people on a job site? Because that's enough to give a health and safety officer an aneurysm every morning before breakfast

Just finished my OSHA-10. There's a weekend I'm not getting back.

>>1167184
Incompetent beauracracy under the guise of "safety".

>>1167246
Now imagine sitting through the 30.
Fucking sucks mang

>>1167126
Was my life for 3 years anon. Holy shit. Was this in kansas?

>>1167137
>hes never done man work with a harness...

>hes never seen what a fustercluck they always are

>hes nevery had to share a harness.

Anon go back to the basement mom has your tendies

>>1167286
Hold it by the D ring and shake,....
Goddamnit give it here.

>>1167150
OSHA doesnt handle mine sites.

They are akin to the beta cuck and MSHA is the bull.

MSHA fires up one day. Hrmmm, lets just copy osha and go full off the rails retard.

Lets add 3 times the unnecessary shit.

LETS MAKE IT A LITTERAL ACT OF CONGRESS TO CHANGE ANYTHING LOL.

Then they all blew each other and have daily circle jerks.

And that is how MSHA was started.

>>1167184
(Occupational?) Safety and hazard administration.

Msha is mining.

Its like the DOT but for construction and mining and shit

>>1167184
In the USA also. Not sure anyone elsr would be cucked like this

>>1167257
Just like MSHA, DOT, EPA, SEC, and all the rest. "We are here to keep you safe" then the cocksuckers run out of money and have to make shit up to survive.

>no D handle shovels they can hurt your back.

Okay, gess i will lift 50 poinds 10 feet out in front of me so i can remove this ton of rock instead of getting actual leverage.

Fucking cocksuckers. Im so glad i only jave to worry about their bullshit once every few years

>>1167273
Don't remind me. I know OSHA-30 is in my future.

The fuck else is there to go over?

>ITT knuckle dragging retards who've never been in any serious management capacity

companies with overly strict safety programs are objectively more productive and have lower overhead costs. it has little to do with dodging fines or even giving a shit about you. safety nazi's improve the bottom line by every metric.

>>1167289
I love it whenever either says 'you need safety gear if you need it/its a dangerous situation'

A meteor could come down and hit you in the head and it's your fault for not wearing a hard hat around that dangerous meteor.

>>1167383

>Lower overhead costs

Full of shit bruh.

Their overhead is much higher because of all the procedure and beauracracy. Fucking even Google the term "overhead" and I am sure they would talk refer directly to operational expenses.

A fucking Bangladesh ship breaking company has a lot less overhead than an American ship breaking company because of the LACK of safety.

The OSHA advantage is that they receive less legal expense because they are covered through the administration. Which in turn for a massive contract is a plus.

>>1167162
I work at one of the oldest refineries in the country.

But almost half the plant has been replaced in the last 30 years.

There are some parts that are old as fuck, but they've been maintained. Now, realize I say maintained, not updated.

We have a huge cat cracker from the early 50s, the top of the reactor is somewhere above 200ft. The fractionator is only slightly shorter. They sit about 80ft apart. They have a catwalk that connects them about 160 ft up in the air. It scares the shit out of me. God damn, and heights doesn't bother me, only this one spot.

The catwalk is barely wide enough to fit a person. It's seriously connected by 2 i beams with diamond plate on top and angle iron running from 1 side to another. No mid rail, no toe board, just bracing every 10 feet welded to the i beam. Rusted to hell


I nearly shit myself the first time i was half way across and realized what i was standing on. That's my osha nightmare.

>>1167400
>Their overhead is much higher because of all the procedure and beauracracy

confirmed for not knowing shit. procedure and redtape is cheap as fuck.

pajeets don't have government mandated health care, pajeets don't have unemployment insurance, pajeets don't have disability. pajeets aren't generally highly trained individuals with specialized skillsets that are difficult to replace. why the fuck do you think bangladeshi's would slit your throat for a chance to work under these "procedure and beauracracy"?

you getting hurt in america costs a fuck ton of money and that's why the emphasis on safety exists. insurance companies do studies on this stuff to determine risk and companies that have the safety nazi mindset get huge breaks because its proven to reduce mishaps.

this isn't even about OSHA you ignorant fuck.

oh god.

I was walking by a McMansion development. These crap shacks had a really steep roof because they had partial 3rd floor/attics. There were these two mexicans nailing shingles. they just had just a rope tied around their wait. the rope then went up and over the crest of the bare plywood roof to the other side. I don't know what the end of the rope was attached to. The way they swung side to side. I imagine one of them having their rope snap and they fall 20 feet to the ground.

>>1167424

Buddy. Did you even read my post?

You pretty much just agreed and reinforced everything I said.

>>1167433
except that india is a shit hole country that nobody wants to live in and is a terrible example of an industrialized nation.

your comparison is inherently flawed. i could find some warlord in africa who has slaves and point out that his bottom line is better than any company in the US's, but that would be equally as retarded as what you are saying.

>>1167436

Kek.

You are so blinded by your cuck rage that you still don't see that you are calling me a retard and agreeing with me in the same breath.

Again. Go look up overhead and re read our posts then come back here.

Hint: Legal settlements aren't considered overhead

>>1167447
>Legal settlements
yep, you're a retard. wasn't talking about that either. maybe when you've worked on projects over a couple million dollars you will understand.

>>1167454

There's a difference between being a union framer and a contractor on a couple mil project. Though I would figure that you as a labourer would think that just because you are on a big project that you know all about big projects despite the fact that you have no influence on anything other than not getting fired, but you believe since you are on a medium sized site that you know all about everything.

>>1167299
>EPA
Oh fuck off you knuckledragger. Nobody wants to live in the 70s.

>>1167110
What do you mine? I love in a small gold mine town and we do HVAC and plumbing for the minds, MSHA is crazy, no foot prints in the snow or your fined

>>1167288
Lol

>>1167483
>no foot prints in the snow or your fined

Fucking why?

>working as part of a road crew fixing pot holes and concrete beams on bridges
>one morning the crew I'm part of has to do a job with another crew to try and get a job site in and out before the evening rush
>cut/hammer/clean the pot holes pretty quick with two crews there, so we have a while to wait for the concrete truck to arrive from the plant
>one guy from the other crew goes to take a leak in the ditch on the side of the road
>on his way back, instead of just stepping completely over the guard rail, he plants his foot on the top of it to raise himself up
>his foot slips
>the corner of one of the I-beam rails of the guard catches him in the crotch, tears right through his pants
>blood and screaming
>so much god damn screaming

After the ambulance carted him off we finished off the bridge and that was the last I ever saw of the guy. If the stories that circulated about it are true, he tore open his scrotum, severing one of his nuts completely and rupturing the other.

About a week or so later we had OSHA come in to show us the "proper" way to go around a guard rail.

>>1167285
Texas but I imagine it's the same everywhere.

>>1167383
Lol only for the insurance companies

>>1167375
A bunch of shit that pertains to everybody else's trades.

>>1167288
You are assuming some retard faggot didnt leave it outside in the mud for 3 days...

>>1167383
In this post^^^^^

Pleb retard who cant lift his fat ass out of his HR desk.

Thinks he rules his underlings with an iron fist.

Is completely full of shit and oblivious to the fact he is the ass of all jokes.

Grow the fuck up manlet.

This knuckle dragger without a degree figured out you are the biggest of cucks in 2 fucking sentances.

Pic related.

>>1167388
They cant raoe your wallet if it makes sense.

Been saying for years they will come out with personal fines.

Here we are.

>>1167432
Try over 40 feet. And it was likely woven between a few boards in the house and tied to the 400lb dude. For a moving counter weight. That's how i built houses for years. Swinging by your nuts with a frayed shitty rope from walmart.

Gay as fuck

>>1167436

>>1167475
NO FUCKING SHIT U RETARD FAGGOT. TRY HAVING A PUDDLE IN YOUR YARD DEEMED NAVIGABLE WATER AND THEN FUCKOFF AND NECK YOURSELF.

>>1167483
Fucming above ground limestone rock quarries. Only classified mine because MSHA wants more money. Im a glorifued windshield jockey.

>>1167656
>mfw people on /diy/ say this never happens and tells other anon's to alter their land all willy nilly

THEY'RE ONLY AFTER THE "BIG GUYS" THEY SAID. HURR WHO CARES ABOUT RUN OFF.

i'm sorry the army corps is cucking you.

I know when you said DIY GORE you didn't mean literally, but I made a miscarriage out of gelatine and fake blood. Dumped it into the toilet bowl at a Wendy's back in November and got the hell out of there. I've been keking internally every day since then.

>>1167577
Has been a fear of mine as well. When i was a kid we sleded down a resivore damn. Had to stand behind the rail and bail over it to sled.

Kid slips

Eats the rail

Never sleded again there. Fuggg

>>1167658
Me too anon. Im gonna kick their sons in the ribs

>>1167291
UK is all HSE (Health & Safety Executive).

Same thing really.

>>1167383
Have you just literally come off your IOSH Managing Safely course?

>people itt would rather die or get mangled than put up with sometimes incnveniencing regulations

It's like you've never even heard of the gilded age

Got loads from the bunker, this is one of my favorite ones.

Two friends helped me setup the cctv around the perimeter. Didn't have a tall enough ladder, so took the electric truck, two pallets connected to each other by two planks, counter weight on the left pallet for my friend+ladder. Second friend didn't have balls to climb up.

>>1167642
>Unions
>Texas

Huh? Was this some Venuzuelan Citgo plant?

>>1167685

Be careful Bunk...

>>1167650
Those guys don't stay on my jobs

>>1167660
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHA
Were did you come up with that?

>>1167688
Mobil but they all have them to some degree

>>1167286
Not him, but the harness we wear on the OP at work (pictured earlier ITT) is ez as fuck after the first few times you handle it. Doesn't get tangled at all. Even the huge one for total fat fucks (i.e. the one that's always on there when I get there).

>>1167400

Even without liability a first world company has many orders of magnitude higher costs when an employee becomes infirm or dies on the job. We tend to have much better contracts.

Mr. cripple would have been utterly fucked in Bangladesh, only slightly fucked here.

>>1167246
Wait for osha 30

>>1167383
Agreed.

A LTI is a lot worse for us then the 30 min safety meeting, and making sure our guys go home with all the fingers and ties theu came in with.


We have been LTI free for 1200 days. Crew of 100. 960,000 hours safe. On day 1251, I am giving everyone the day off with pay, a yeti 110 with company logo, and a raffle for everyone who has been here 1 year , ( like 85 guys) for a luxury box tickets and stadium tour pack , and the day off, for the next Cardinals/cubs game.

>>1167792
Why?


Because my insurance rates havr decreased, and our safe reputation has landed us more jobs.

>>1167792
Thank you anon for being cool and not being a faggot cuckboss that gives half a ham for a christmas bonus.

Keep them motivated.

Surprise them at the give away with a date for a steak dinner.

Doesnt seem like a ton of work. Get several people manning the grill and set up a buffet line. Steak for 100 people isnt cheap but then neither is a paid day off and yeti cooler.

I might could talk my buddy into painting you some cups if u like.

Dude charges like $60 or $80 plus cost of cup but might be cool for a door prize or random give away for jokes like most recent fuck up or most days clocked in on time in a row or something.

Little shit like that makes work 10 times better imo.

Random pic of his work.

Swear im not trying to shill for him. He makes a livibg doing it already. We been friends for 30 years and im proud of him.

>>1167737
I see. Welk ours were a little different and eaither harder to untabgle, i am an autist, or probably both.

>>1167705
Good. Your employees thank you. Year 1 at my last job we had 22 employees. And we hired and fired or otherwise they quit over 100 fucking people

I was number 100 in november of tjat year. I told my boss it was fuckibg stuoid and bonsense and at 70 people i said if we hit 100 i am done. No notice or nothing.

At 99 somebody else broke shit and blamed it on me. I just laughed. Took out my keys and took my gate key off, took my harness off, took my hardhat off, and put that shit in the office where i filled out my last time card and fucking left.

>>1167690
No shit man.

>>1167681
Oh, i learned my fucking lesson anon...

Pic related.

I'm an overly expensive weather radar.

0% chance of rain tonight. Bet anyone $100 it rains.

I dont even check the weather anymore.

You would think it's convenient but it only makes the 24/7 pain even worse.

Be careful anons. I have a deep hatred for overrated safety cuck administrations.

But you never know when the next step will be the last you take without being crippled at 24. I'm 31 now and so help me god i am buying a $350,000 ankle before i die.

>>1167111
And that's why your crippled you stupid fuck

>>1167765
Only slightly fucked here

>helping a family friend for a couple weeks.
>he doesnt believe in useless costs like "insurance" or "workman's comp"
>tells everyone at the hospital take double the xrays and any procedures i need he will pay.
>wants me to piss off my doctor and go get a second opinion on surgery
>doctor doesnt even look at my foot just hands me a copy of my xrays and asks me if that is indead mine.
>say it matches but i have no idea wtf any of that is.
>laughs and says get surgery or cut it off.
>SURGERY CONFIRMED
>guy comes by and gives me $150 a week a few times
>never heard from again.
>never pays a dime on hospital bills.
>cant sue, wouldnt get anything and is the father of 2 of my best friends.
>landowner is a church.
>not sueing a church
>not sueing anyone anyway. Should have known better...
>$40,000 hospital visit
>hypervenalated and passed out repeatedly from pain for 3 days.
>off work for over a year
>can't do physical labor really anymore
>its all i was ever good at.
>just paid last late charge to bills a few months ago.
>happened in 2010.

>>1167877
Well no fucking shit anon. I dont need 2 metal plates to learn that lesson...

>>1167886
you literally did

>>1167288
I had someone really fuck one up though. No problems for 5 years. Newb picked it out of the truck once and tried to put in on and swear to god he put it in a knot. Took 30 minutes to get it straight.

>>1167577
Could have been worse. He could have done it before he took a piss.

What I seem to get from this thread is that you're putting your personal safety and therefore life and potential money earned/spent behind speed or just general retardation?

Are you fucking morons? It's easy to be safe, do a job properly, and not have to potentially fork out money for LOLAMERICANHEALTHCARE. How fucking stupid can you be? For fuck's sake I got harnesses and helmets so me and my friend could remove some limbs in a tree on my property. Couldn't have been more than twenty feet high, but the fall could fucking kill you.

Seriously, what is wrong with you idiots?

>>1167039
Nothing against OSHA, but fuck, i have to wear a hard hat on commercial buildings that have no construction going on or any danger of falling objects, i guess in case i get shit on by a bird, also i have to wear a harness even if there is nothing to attach myself to, u know just in the event i slip from my 20 foot ladder that although secured wont hold my weight, and finally, wear a bright orange vest on the roof, so the vehicles driving on the roofs can see you.
I know OSHA is helpful on a lot of jobs and some rules make pretty sense, but when it comes to hvac, theyre eithwr retarded or misinformed about the dangers of this trade

>>1167137 see
>>1167286

I put my harness away and I swear to you it tangles itself. Fall protection life.

>your anchor is "in a rafter" in case "you need it"

>>1167885
>not suing a church
Friend, the church doesnt give 2 fucks about you and if you think that they are holier than thou, or sanctified without penalty than thousand of ppl died for nothing, theyre a business and i can assure you they wont think twice about suing u

>>1167968
Forgot pic. Look at that classy rope right there. Horizontal plebs need not reply.

>>1167885
>cant sue, wouldnt get anything and is the father of 2 of my best friends.
>landowner is a church.
>not sueing a church
>not sueing anyone anyway.
If you don't have the balls to stand up for yourself then you can't complain

>>1167723
I don't really know to be honest. But I intend to do it again someday.

>>1167991
Please do, but with pics every step of the way. I'm guessing it was a unisex cubicle and not a ladies room? I don't eat fast-food so I wouldn't really know. I guess you could always pull the "I sexually identify as" trick if you get caught, but it will make the prank seem a little more suspicious.

>>1167991
i would love a guide on how to make one. this is great

>>1167654
proper safety gear for that kind of work is sold at Home Depot for $100 and comes in a bucket.

>>1167977
Do you carry your own anchor point?
Just shoot it where the work is?

>>1168047
Yee. I do maintenance and repairs for solar stuff. Just me, and we don't leave anchors so I set up everyday. Shit blows, but it's better than being fired.

>>1167110
I have to deal with the NRC.

>>1167885
>cant sue, wouldnt get anything and is the father of 2 of my best friends.

You probably would, actually. Who the fuck cares if you're freinds with his kids?

>not sueing a church
Why? They have insurance. Even if they didn't who gives a fuck?

>>1168081
Its what tithe is for
They would have been fine

>>1167873
>broke shit and blamed it on me
Fucking christ why do people do this
Just nut the fuck up and admit it.
Once I take my paid vacation off I'm done with my current job. Someone managed to break the chain on a hilo, and I got blamed for it somehow. Fuck it.

>>1167995
>>1168006
Nah it was the men's room, but when you see a bloody fœtus in the bowl you don't really assume the person who pushed it out would have also bothered following toilet/gender norms.

If I ever do make another I'll be sure to make a tutorial out of the whole thing. But I'll say this, the key 'gredients are pic related (plus flake blood). With some experimentation you'll work it out.

>>1167039
Here's a perspective from the other side of the clipboard.

My job is to learn, know, understand, and teach the latest job safety practices and standards to people who would otherwise keep doing things the way they want to, the 'easy' way, or the 'fast' way.

Yes. Some of the shit we make you do is infuriating, pedantic, and seemingly inconsequential.

But my job is to make sure that you go home every night to feed you dog or cat and possibly your kids if you're one of those freaks who has kids. Its my responsibility to minimize the risk of maiming or serious personal injury not only because of you as a person and fellow human being, but as an extremely skilled and valued company asset. You are an investment that the company made when they hired you, trained you, etc. From that investment the company gets a pretty significant return in exchange for your work.

I'm sure you can appreciate that a mill going down in a shop is lost money. A worker being unable to work for ANY reason is a very real loss of income on the books. We can't keep you safe from the common cold, or the other drivers on your way to work. But by god above its my responsibility to minimize every risk you take to the best of my ability and the ability of the tools available regardless of how much you hate me, or whatever names you call me.

>clipboard warrior for 15 years
>current position for 10 years
>in those ten years, with 110 employees in a heavy industrial setting there's only been 3 days of leave due to injury at my site.
>three other sites owned by the same company are lucky to go a few months before losing three days.

I have guys call me asshole and worse names behind my back and to my face. Ive had guys threaten to kick my ass. I'm pretty sure a quarter of them hate my guts and would openly applaud at my funeral. I don't give one flying fuck what you think about me as long as you go home at night with all your fingers and toes.

>open cabinet I use once a month but other use hourly
>2 pound metal box full of reamers falls out and hits me in the fucking face
>concussion and bleeding from my fucking face
>safety guy says to be more careful

>>1167660
Holy shit that's glorious

>>1167656
Not my problem faggot. Better that than rivers setting on fire.

>>1167658
It's trimming a tree faggot.

>>1167904
No, litteral faggot. I dont get off the ground anymore. At all...

>>1167944
Its called suck my dick and neck yourself you retard cocksucker. Stay the fuck out of america. We are full up on retards and faggots both let alone your special breed of both with off the charts autism. Get fucked buddy.

>>1167964
They dont give a flying fuck about u and want money. They started for safety and fucked over the companies until they straightened up. Now everyone is on the up and up and uncle sam isnt about to stop throat fucking that piniata so they make up billshit to the point of absurdity.

Fuck, now MSHA is on the prowl for personal fucking fines...

>>1167968
Lol. Fucking thankfully those days are over

>>1167969
Probably. I dont so mich give a fuck about the church as the small comunity i live in would have hanged me. Figure its best to not piss off the man upstairs anyway.

They say everything happens for a reason. And now that i cant work until im 90 i was forced to find a way to retire early. My changed spending habbits and investments are already making that light at the end of the tunnel brighter. Im 31 and probably be rwtired making even more money than i do bow at 50 hours a week by 35.

>>1167989
Nothing to do with balls mutherfucker. I have a PFA on me as we speek and when i see another tweaker fuck at the bar i am draging him outside and beating his teeth in. I aint scared of shit. But fuck u i guess. I have nothing to prove to a faggot on a cartoon trading board.

>>1167995
OC

>>1168075
Nrc?

>>1168081
I would feel bad. He litterally sold all his shit and filed for backruptcy once he found out i wasnt gonna sue. At the time his wife was laid off and work grinded to a hault

>>1168370
Don't worry, it was a part of God's plan for you to be an
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>>1168372
hahahaha

I work at a very large machine shop. I find it annoying to put on cut resistant gloves only to take them off and put on the heat resistant ones and then take them off and put on the cut resistant ones again. But at the end of the day, I just remind myself that I work hourly and that doing the safety shit is part of my duties.

>>1168375

He made it so that if you changed your mind you could never fucking sue.

LOL cucked 4 lyf

>>1168373
nuclear regulatory committee. there's a saying in the DoE regarding nuclear shit.

"if the paperwork doesn't weigh more than the part, you missed something"

>>1168370
I think the man upstairs would be more rewardig if you exposed the falsisity or fakeness in the nepostist congregation you face, whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong, lets always remember that although influemced by christianitu, the law and religion are 2 sifferent entities, if you lose, you push it forward until your constituional rights win, remember those who sacrifice security for freedom, deserve neither

>>1168366
>prowl for personal fuckinh fines
A plumbing company owner informed me that OSHA fined him because one of his worker wasnt wearing a hard hat to unplug a drain, indoors, 3000 dollar fine on a 200 dollar job

>>1168372
Holy shit you can't make this up. I wonder if they'd be ok with photoshopping a man's nipples on a lady's breasts?

>>1168179
Oh fuck you. You are the definition of retard cuck.

>latest safety blah blah.

Dont fucking point the nail gun at people and wear fall protection.

We are busy working.

We dont need your retarded faggotry coming up to us and telling us how to do our job from a fuckin desk jokey u fucking prick

>>1168224
"Better than rivers setting on fire."

Burning off you entire pasture with 1 match.


I am okay with this.

>>1168447
I dont see how retard. If anything he dicked hiself and cant do it again for ~7 years or whatever

>>1168448
LOL

>>1168563
Yup. Fucking exactly. Stupid fucking cucks.

>>1168665
I guess with the way fucking facebook is ran by that faggot cuck if it does get band just shitpost on sone feminist sites and they will flip shit.

I swear if u ever need a personal armt judt sign uo to a fucking feminist fb oage and say u are being oppressed and all 4.6 trillion pounds will REEEE in unison.

>>1168179

Godspeed anon.

>Self employed locksmith just in training. What sort of shit should I be careful of? I have no one to make sure I come home safe at the end of the day.

>>1168778

>tfw you get home and some mob boss has a gun to your waifu pillow, he highly suggest you start cracking open locks for him on the regular or else he'll come back for your pillow

Wat do?

>>1168681
get a load of this internet tough guy. you'll do as the safety guy says, or you get on down the road. and if thats the case, i let every other foreman and contractor know that your gonna be the one to get someone killed. enjoy being blackballed.

>>1168808
Anybody who has worked construction for any amount of time knows that safety rules are for the workers benefit, and ultimately they are responsible for thier own well being, not the safety guy.
They also know that their are occasions where safety protocol can be ridiculously blown out of proportion, and sometimes it's just a matter of them validating thier job.
Trick is to find the middle ground, and for both parties to effectively work together.

>>1168811
>Trick is to find the middle ground, and for both parties to effectively work together.

not really. if you look at where the money goes, the inefficiency and time wasted derived from having an overbearing safety guy is completely overshadowed by even a single lost time mishap.

aside from having a safety nazi on staff, i've resorted to tying health insurance premiums directly to the amount of mishaps. if someone gets hurt, thats $100 less a month everyone else on the jobsite is going to be making. at that point, everyone becomes a safety nazi.

>>1168813
>the inefficiency and time wasted derived from having an overbearing safety guy is completely overshadowed by even a single lost time mishap
An overbearing safety guy is not an example of both parties working together.

>>1168806

*sniff* I loved you so much bodypillow, but... our time has passed.

That said, i won't lie, some gang of thugs trying to strongarm me into breaking them into somewhere is a genuine concern. I suppose if I smell a rat, I just ask a police car to check up on the location before I arrive.

>>1168808
>enjoy being black balled
>obay me or fired.


L O FUCKING L FAGGOT.

first off fuck u i do what i want and always have.

2nd i live in a town of like 300 fucking people. By the time u make up a bullshit story and tell the second person the first one will be telling me you're talking shit and you will be dealt with accordingly Mr. Assmad safetycuck.

Dont be all fucking butthurt because i dont respect your authority and neither does anyone else. They dont hate you becausr you are a safety nazi they hate u because almost always the safety guy is the biggest most heinous faggot in the entire fucking company.

Staymad

>>1168825
>i live in a town of like 300 fucking people

oh, then you are working on some irrelevant project thats literally illiterate mexican tier in terms of scope and complexity. so not only are you a knuckle dragger, but you aren't even a good knuckle dragger. i wouldn't hire you to begin with.

get back to me when you are working with more than a couple million dollars in project funds.

>he thinks i'm the safety guy

im an engineer and project manager. your cuck ass is building my design. i hire the safety guy to ride your ass because your stupidity costs me money. if you think a fellow engineer is going to take your uneducated opinion over mine, you are sadly mistaken.

>>1168825
>I live in an irrelevant flyover and want to die at 45 with 6 fingers missing and a fused spine
>I'm gonna fuck my truck and nobody can stop me u mad
You're why blue collar jobs get shit on.

>>1168373
Nuclear Regulatory Commission

I work in your power plant. I cum in your electricity. I don't give a shit.

>>1167162

gredest ally

>>1167407

hmmm very interesting

>>1167885

fuck the church

>>1168888

I don't see how anyone could be jelly of cancer dick

>>1168833

>HURR LET ME TEACH THIS MAN WHO IS WAY BELOW ME A LESSON

Not him but the degree of concern you have in his existence would either suggest that you aren't in a high of a position as you'd like to put on

Or

You have a small dick.

>>1168906

Or he genuinely cares, and should be lauded or at the least appreciated for his concern, as it's a rare virtue in this age of apathy.

>>1168906
>>1168915
i managed one project that had a fatality, and it was due to the attitude of a guy just like the one i was responding to. an irrational fear/hatred of authority and a sense of knowing better than those who are trained in the matter.

although that guy got fired, he wasn't the one that had to go in front of another man's family and explain why dad was sitting in the hospital morgue with all of his internal organs crushed.

men like him are cancer on the trade industry and deserve nothing but contempt.

>>1168919

sounds sick, got pics?

Just got through my OSHA-10. Tedious shit but I don't care. The only thing that partially grinds my gears is when there are different standards that Almost overlap and there is no obvious difference.

Is this trench where we are laying conduit to a new structure "construction" or "industry"? Who decides that exactly? why is there a difference in the distance for the spoil and why not change both to say it has to be back by the same amount?

But it's all cool. Hell, I don't even go into fucking trenches. Workshop4lyfe. The safety guy has way bigger problems then me when most of the scheduled OSHA-10 class just fucked off and didn't show so he has to schedule them Again and pester all the foremen Again, etc. Biggest gain from the class was learning I was right (and busybody polo-wearer in the head office was wrong) about company ppe policy overriding the warnings on the drill press to not use gloves.

>>1168778
>locksmith
>what should I watch out for to be safe

Niggers.
My uncle is a locksmith by trade, he wont go east of 60th street, even for repeat customers. Too many fucking niggers

>>1167660
I remember you

I had a file named "OSHA nightmares" so I felt obligated to post it in this thread.

>>1169507
Thanks friend, I remember you too

>>1168179
Most logical person inthis thread.

People are assets but that aside I have never understood why an individual would takeon more personal risk for the same amount of pay? Lets play it out in reverse. If you walk up to two blackjack tables and all other things being equal the odds of winning at one are 10:1 and the other 100:1 you would expect a higher payout for going with the longer bet. Working without safety equipement or putting yourself in a situation where an employer can question you if you get hurt is like taking the long bet for no additional reward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wmcD3aM8X4

Gotta love the dry composure of the inspector.

>"You want to see why he can't be down there?"
>"That's why he can't be down there."

>>1169724
jesus ƒuck

>>1169724

Amazing. Videos like that is why I came to this thread, and I was incredibly disappointed.

>>1169784

this is an 18+ site, go troll /b/ for rekt threads until you get your ban

>>1168825
>because i don't respect your authority

I've done pipefitting and ironworking in oil refineries, and now more recentley, millwright work in grain elevators for the past 5 years.

You are the type of dumbass who gets himself and potentially everyone on your crew fucked up or over. I listen to the safety guy because I've seen people get all kinds of fucked up and mangled because they didn't listen or heed what the safety guy said. Not tying off, not inspecting rigging, not wearing the right kind of clothes, and all the little shit is what comes back to bite you in the ass. Ask a project manager if he'd rather deal with a delay in production or an employee fucking himself up.

I'm not saying that OSHA isn't overly bureaucratic or that safety guys aren't a pain in the ass, but they are there for a reason. You're the type of idiot who is going to get himself or probably someone else fucked up.

>>1169936
PFFFFF.

Get out of here oshacuck...

>>1169939
Good response, have fun when you get fucked up.

>>1167039
Safety regs have to be written for the lowest common denominator employee, not the smart, skillful and safety conscious employee.

Construction and industry in general is full of bottom feeder dumbfucks, but even aviation has strict safety protocols for good reason.

You get paid to follow orders, not to be happy.

>>1169939

Last guy I know who wouldn't stop talking about "OSHA retards" fell off a bridge and died after the bridge was struck by an off-course boat. He wasn't harnessed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoYYEMMTCts

I had to watch this full video once. About a week later a dumb shit nearly cut off my leg with picture related. He missed training that day.

The fucker wasn't wearing eye protecting or the harness. The weed eater was very heavy and had a sapling cutting blade installed on it (not string). The fucker had been operating the thing all of 5 seconds when he got some bark in his eye (so he says). He took a hand off the tool to wipe it out, lost control of it, clipped a tree, went flying and clipped me with it right in the god damn knee. Three surgeries, two screws, two severed ligaments (including the patellar ligament) an allograft (donor tissue from a dead person), and 150 stitches & staples later I have the knee of a 60-year-old football player. I can't bend it back all the way and I can't squat because the cartilage is chewed up. I was 26 when this happened. I will need a knee replacement around age 45.

If you want to be a 'safety is for fags' asshole at least do the rest of us the service of only being like that when you are the only life that will be ruined/ended when things go south.

>>1170062
Life is cheap. Even yours, even mine. Your knee isn't important enough to be worth changing policy over.

>>1170062

I operate those things with only a pair of shades and ear plugs.

But I am not stupid enough to stand that close to someone or in the plane of rotation where shit could fly at me.

How the fuck you were close enough to have him swing it into your leg I don't know. That was really fucking dumb dude. Even if he was wearing eye pro that doesn't stop him doing something stupid and having it kick back.

The idiot was YOU

https://youtu.be/cNcsTRQNZLE

>Guy finally gets a job
>So proud he sends fiance a selfie of him in PPE
>Gets killed an hour into shift

This one really tickled my heart the first time I saw it.

>>1170115
that's more depressing than most isis videos

>>1168179
Nice and smart but a fag. I hope u get aids.

>>1170062

isnt being aware of your surroundings something they teach you

It's National Safety week faggots, so don't do anything stupid.
-OSHA

>>1170051
>OSHA staging tragic boating accidents to prove a point

Devious.

>>1170115
At least he was wearing his high vis vest.

>>1170115
>Bacardi plant

Seriously got spooked at the beginning thinking I may have drank that nigger.

>>1170449
>>Bacardi plant

>machine that apparently breaks bottles of rum ($) regularly
>problem not solved for over a year

they not care about dumping money down the drain?

>>1168904
When did I say anyone should be jealous?

We do make bank though.

>>1170455
The rum isn't actually worth all that much, certainly, it doesn't cost them anywhere close to what you pay. They'll claim back the taxes for the broken bottles and it will be way cheaper than paying for a much more reliable machine.

>>1170449

You actually drink that shit?

>>1167407
Much of what we have today was built or rebuilt shortly after the war. And these things have, as you say, been maintained to varying degrees but not updated. The levees of New Orleans were just the tip of the ice berg. I used to work on security and it was a lot of scary reading. I am thankful and impressed about the workmanship in days gone past but there is a limit before it all comes crashing down.

>>1170501
I have a problem.

>>1170051
Fuuuuug. Sucks man. I screach fuck osha daily but i dont do hights anymore.

The concept behind them is good but those retard cocksuckers are overbearing faggots.

>risk of drowning.

Its a 2 inch deep 1 foot wide draining pit for water runoff.

>where is your life jacket anon. Have a ticket.

Motor oil storage.
>no smoking u will esplode.
U tried to light that shit?

Life jacket to push 2 button on a catwalk with a railing next to a pond with no rocks in it.

Gets stick and mirror and lifts 20 feet up. No cover on electric shit. A rat could chew the wires and burn down a metal shop...

U need 3 points of contact because u cant climb a ladder with your water jug anon.

Better weare your seatbelt to pull foward 20 feet.

Better chock the tires on your personal pickup anon.

Blinkers that dont work on your haul truck that u dont use. Better fix that.

Better have a guard so you dont reach in and grab a fucking vbelt like a tard...

Just.... fuckoff and die msha and osha and dot and other country equivelent if u gonna be fucking idiots

>>1169949
Cant. Last time i was laid up i pkayed parallel kingsom all day. Per blue axed it.

>>1170531
The electrical one I understand.

>>1167655
lol they wouldn't have the money to fly to where i live.

>>1168075
>Only cucked by NRC
>Not cycled by superior NERC
What are you a fucking normie?

>>1170539
Stupid mutherfucker rape wallets and wonder why we autism at them. There is an msha cuck i legit will punch in the mouth when i find. 5 years and down to county...

There was a trucking/distribution business in my town that always had these hilariously dumb safety messages posted on their sign. Things like "Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, Safety First"

Sadly they're closed now but I should have taken a photo collection. Some of them were real crackers!

>>1167885
time to start on that computer science degree

>>1170051
One of the guys I used to smoke with in High School was an adrenaline junkie who knew better than everyone. He didn't believe in safety shit because he was training to be an MMA badass.

Fucker fell to his death from a cell tower. He often bragged on Facebook about how he didn't use a harness because it slowed him down and how he had amazing strength.

Company also used his facebook shit to get off from having to pay his family a penny for wrongful death, or at least that's what I heard.

>>1170853
Thanks but im say fuck yuh. Time to invest in shit that makes money.

There was this asshole in HS who would beat people and thrraten to kill gays and Jews and whatnot. Anyway he became a plumber and never took proper precautions (because badass) and got multiple MRSA infections over the years. Until one finally killed him, because instead of taking his medicine and getting plenty of rest he went out and got wasted and went into a coma and died.

Now, I personally never wish anyone harm or anything, but I wasn't sad.

>HURR SAFETY IS DUM
don't worry, darwin is looking for ya
and he'll be laughing at you grieving or your disappointed family members too :)

>>1170737
Learn to spell before you go punching pople. Being literate will help you in the job search.

>>1170914
Had a childhood friend, a really good guy, used to be a YouTube video of him trying to repair a building while Alex Jones badgered him with questions. Anyway, he was out working in a chem plant yard doing maintenance, had a stiff neck, so he went to pop it, paralyzed himself and fell into a fire ant mound. He died two days later from the trauma.

>>1167114
Holy shit I need a video of that

Ultimate Ute burnout

>>1171011
Lol. We dont video evidence my almost death please. Was an accident and an ice storm. 3 donuts and almost bit and rolled that bitch off a cliff.

>>1171007
Thats the worst shit i ever fucking heard.

>>1171005
Not in this line of work faggot

>>1170983
SAFETYKEK BTFO

>>1167868
>Tfw your boss offers half a ham or a bottle of cheap liquor
>Tfw you pick the booze to drown the pain

>>1170089
>uses a strimmer with only shades and ear plugs
>calls other people 'idiot'

I hope you get to experience being shot in the face by a stone

>>1170906
Solid idea /10.

Highly suggest u perma block that pump and dump scam board /biz.

Absolute horse shit.

Source:

I actually study and invest.

>>1169724
smug af

>>1167577
who designed these stupid rails with the sharp edge corners?

>>1167792

>>1171033
>I hope you get to experience being shot in the face by a stone
I have. Fortunately for me I'm not a numale pussy and continued on because it's not that big of a deal. It did however make me glad I had safety glasses on because if it would have hit me in an unprotected eye it could have been bad.
I'm all for safety, and take precautions per my years of training. At home I operate a heavy duty weed eater with safety glasses, hearing protection, and long pants. Anything else is ridiculous overkill, but I'm sure someone will post about how I'm wrong, accidents happen, blah, blah.

>>1171007
>had a stiff neck, so he went to pop it, paralyzed himself
I'm never popping my neck again
god damn

>>1167875
Underrated post

I assume all the rampant spelling errors in this thread are due to people typing with missing finger(s).

Carpenter here. I do concrete work, frame, and exterior finish work.

Anyways when framing there are metal hangers that go on the end of our joists. And there are several ways to go about nailing them.

1, Hand nailing. Labor intensive, installs as fast as you can drive 16 pennys into the prepunched holes.
2, Palm Nailing. Use a pneumatic hand nailer and it is the slowest method but the least labor intensive.
3, Hardware Gun. This gun is made to shoot nails into prepunched hardware. This is the fastest way to install your hardware but the gun costs 400 dollars.
4, Framing Gun. This method can be just as fast as the hardware gun but is dangerous as the nails can fly back at you.

So me and my foreman have to nail off 100 joist hangers one day and I am not handnailing. Fuck that I am using my palm nailer. Now I could have used my framing gun but I have been slapped with nails before and I have learned my lesson but my foreman wants to go fast so he is using his framing nailer.

He is installing them faster than me and halfway through he says, "Well I guess the old man is kicking your ass today" Immediately afterwards he goes back to nailing and a nail jumps up and smacks him across his safety glasses, welting his upper cheek. He stops for a minute to check it out and goes back to nailing the joists with his gun. Another nail jumps up and smacks him across his upper lip opening his face up. He stopped working for the day after that.

>>1168778
Eye injuries, you work with fine components under tension, fine grained carbon and steel, as well as the occasional glass.

Buy nice safety glasses and wear em when working.

>>1167875
is that your rectum?

>Be at work.
>Worker on forklift is unloading boxed up clearance goods for the store to sell.
>Being outside we use the fenced off garden area to unload the pallets.
>Watch new guy start lifting the load over the gate.
>A 10 foot gate.
>Watch between my fingers of my facepalm as he lurches the lift and the load falls off the pallet.
>mfw they didn't fucking fire him.

>>1171504
Sorry, I didn't make it clear enough, he tried to use a forklift, lift a load over a 10 ft gate, and thought he could lover it into the area needed.
Because you know, forklifts are magic and pass though chain link.

>>1171504
>>1171505
Sounds like you work at the Deep Homo, no?

>>1171509
No.
Freddies.

>>1171282
using a framing gun to put on joist hangers is fuck retarded..

I'd just hand nail.. it still seems pretty fast, what nails do you use? here it's 35mm product nails so they go in pretty fast haha was your foreman putting like 90mm framing nails into them? fucked...

Don't own a palm nailer. are they worth it?

>>1170768
Sounds like they worked to make you pay attention

>>1170531
I want to try thinking of the original reasoning for this list just for fun

>Risk of drowning in small draining pit
Does it lead to a bigger pit, say one close enough that you might slip in the smaller pit and land in the bigger one?
>Motor oil storage.
As far as I know, if something is designated as flammable storage then NOTHING flammable is to be near it, even if nothing stored there can be ignited by a cigarette or whatever. It's all or nothing, probably because it'd leave room for "Wow I thought it was fine to smoke near this flammable storage" after some fuckup cascade happens
>Life jacket to push 2 button on a catwalk with a railing next to a pond with no rocks in it.
Obvious answer is in case the catwalk has a structural failure, less obvious is that it basically means that if someone falls into the pond(Not due to catwalk) without a lifejacket and drowns it's less liability for the company since they'd have to be disregarding both the lifejacket rule and every "Don't do stupid shit on catwalks" rule for it to happen
>Electrical
That's pretty valid, and the reason he checks in places like that is because no one else does. Out of sight places are usually the most common ones with cut corners or lackluster maintenance, and for that reason the most prone to cause problems
>U need 3 points of contact because u cant climb a ladder with your water jug anon.
Climbing ladders while carrying shit is really just a good way to injure yourself, by falling, pulling a muscle, dropping said object, etc
I think it's one of the most common causes of injuries on ladders, it's definitely easy to say "Yeah I got this" until you lose control of it and don't have a firm grip and realize there's going to be a problem
>Better weare your seatbelt to pull foward 20 feet.
Insurance liability I'm sure, commercial insurance agents are absolute hawks for that kind of stuff.

>>1170531
Cont.
Didn't realize it'd be so long

>Better chock the tires on your personal pickup anon.
You got me, I imagine some other context is missing
>Blinkers that dont work on your haul truck that u dont use. Better fix that.
If it's insured and registered as a company vehicle, then it damn well better be in operating condition. "Not using it" would not matter, only if the company "can" use it and it's in shape to be used
>Better have a guard so you dont reach in and grab a fucking vbelt like a tard...
If working nearby it's good protection in case of a slip so someone doesn't accidentally grab or hit it
Another is that when machines are off and the inner workings are visible people are more prone to poke around at it. All it takes with a v-belt is the machine being off, someone walking by and seeing that the belt isn't set right/has some crap in it/whatever, fidget with it since the machine is off, then the operator elsewhere hits go and the other guy has a bad day

Most of the rules exist precisely because something stupid happened and people got hurt, and a lot of seemingly bullshit rules exist because shit happens and for something to go wrong you generally have to break multiple rules

As a more straightforward example, the 3 rules of gun safety
1. Finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot
2. Always point the gun in a safe direction
3. Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use
It seems overkill, no?
Say you break 1 of those rules (accidentally or not), everything will be fine right?
But breaking 2 of them is how people get shot on accident

>>1171517
Hand nailing 100 joist hangers off is very labor intensive. There are 12 holes per the hangers we were installing. So thats 1200 nails and you arent taking a break. And while I do work for a production company I try to work smarter not harder.

As for the nails we use on subfloor joists they are 3 1/4" galvanized framing nails. We dont use metric to identify our nails but I am sure its on the box.

Palm nailers are a good tool to have. I own 2 of them (a full size and a mini) but I am a professional. I would recommend a full size over the mini as it drives nails more efficiently and I only break out the mini for super tight quarters were I cant get into (rarely but it happens once in a blue moon). 50 dollars is what I spent I want to say. Also make sure you oil it before every use.

The best part of working with Osha is INTENTIONALLY creating violations, just so they have something to find

Cause they ain't leaving till they find something wrong

>>1170062
>standing within swinging distance of someone with cutting equipment
Yeah youre retarded.

>Dealing with new hire.
>Sounds like a typical stoner teenager.
>Have him at the compactor with some loose pallet planks.
>Has to break them in half so we don't jam the fucking thing.
>Figure he could use logic and lean the plank on the steel bar holding the freight and stomp it.
>Watch him power grab this thing with both hands and thrust it into his thigh.
>He yells and the board is stuck in.
>He forgot the RUSTY nail in the fucking plank.
Dumb motherfucker learned his lesson.

>tfw high paid white collar wagie
>tfw don't have any OSHA stories to share

>>1169061
It is construction. Unless the structure is on a controlled industrial site.

But even then it is what the inspector says

My company is the quintessential OSHA nightmare. I've been there just under 3 years, we have had 3 Safety Managers in that time and just hired a new one, 2 of those quit after 6 months because of the absurd number of reportable and time lost accidents. Somehow, it's OK to have large pieces of hot metal being driven around by 60 year old alcoholics, but it's the company's fault when these same employees damage safety equipment. Company has racked up $100k+ OSHA fines recently (one visit). All of the dangers were caused by the "skilled" union workers that OSHA is there to protect.

>3x $5,000 fines for employees not wearing seatbelts on forktrucks.
>same employee
>drove by OSHA inspector 3 times

At the end of the day, the OSHA inspector was at the gate and looking off into the distance, GM asks him if he's going home. He says yes, but first he's going to the house across the street because the construction workers didn't have fall protection on.

>next day all of those fuckers had harnesses on

>>1169061
>>1171896
Thats fucking idiotic. Company ppe policy should never trump a machine or tools manual. Same for inspectors. No one knows how to use something than its maker.

If the manual says no gloves it is probably for a good reason. All care should be paid to using the tool properly in a safe manner but if the maker of any tool/machine says you shouldnt do something, rather than to simply be cautious of something, then you shouldnt.

Gloves can get snagged in certain machines I would guess and the same goes with jewelery, loose clothing, and long hair.

>>1167555
Tripping hazard they say

>>1168391
Yup, and I don't care if I have to wait an hour, I'm using the crane to lift just about anything over 25lbs. I'm getting paid hourly and fuck not being able to get shit done on the weekend because of a mangled finger or tweaked back.

>>1167555
because Jesus is supposed to carry you.

>>1171976
Wish more people I worked with understood this.

>ANON, HURRY UP! WHY ARE YOU EVEN BOTHERING TO PUT ON YOUR PPE?!

Shut the fuck up. We get paid hourly. Waiting 2 minutes will not throw off your whole schedule and even if it did, who the fuck cares?

>>1171977
This shit applies to drywall too?! Fucking hell!

>>1171947
Oh my fucking shit. Is that real...?

U simply cannot male this shit up...

>>1171934
Used to work with a guy that used gloves wire wheeling steel balls. Finger 1/2 away is real fucking sketchy. He doesnt wear gloves anymore amd we had the cut the grinder in half...

>>1171932
Last place i worked at was like.

>cone crusher for rocks is plugged.
Stadle it 30 feet off the ground and poke at it with a rock bar anon.
>uh-okay. We only got 1 harness and nothing to tie to i so just be careful....

The tunnel is plugged, crawl into this old oil tank we burried 10 feet underground and shovel rock onto thos belt in a confined soace with no vetalation or water drainage. It the belt grabs u just pull thise saftey wire here that is always broke. It will stop the belt.

Anon stradle the razor sharp sand screw and help me change screens. No, we cant shut it off it would take too long.

Here anon. Sit in this shitty broken down 4x4 foot shack right next to 50 ton haul trucks dumping rock and if it gets windy stand outside with your harness because we didnt bother to sink feet in the ground or bolt this 20 foot tower to anything.

Etc...

>>1171819
Lucky fuck

>>1171798
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>1171788
Kek. Chainsaws are the only machine that scare me. Pole saw or phone a friend. Fuck that

>>1171723
Palm naulers just for tight spaces? I never used 1

>>1172192
Who did you work for todd Hoffman?

This may not be exactly the place for this but I'm going to post a few almost production designs that I have personally saved the sparkys from seeing.

>>1172511

>>1172512

>>1172513

>>1172514

>>1172515

>>1172517

And last but not least, the 1KV breaker that might have ruined your day.

>>1172006
Also sucks when the place has little to no safety culture, and you become "that guy" because you want to do things in a manner that won't result in possible wrenched back or lost fingers.

Then your coworkers more or less turn on you, and "freeze you out" or other passive aggressive shit. And this from adult men.

>>1172529
Lower manager tried this bullshit with me.

>Built a line of garden tables (Probably weighed about 600lbs combined.)
>Yells me they are too busy to get some help for me to adjust the table, let alone flip it and goes back inside.
>Try myself a little, fucker isn't moving.
>Look at situation, notice I have a solution sitting near me.
>These tables all have six bars sticking out of them we install for hanging pots so I stick one in and set the entire table assembly on its feet on my own.
I have more fun stories with tables and work violations if you want.

>>1172558
Eh fuck it, more stories.
>Taking apart tables with nicer manager and a female helper.
>They were more cleaning up merch while I did the heavy shit.
>Had a system I practiced for years where you would unbolt everything and just jolt something and the panel would fall off.
>Tables have two panels so you can lay on one and unbolt the other, easy.
>Motherfucker is like an onion.
>Finish unbolting the top of a table and the manager offers me a water because it's fucking hot.
>Move to grab it and watch 50 lbs of steel falling at my face.
>Catch it with my arms and fling it away from me.
>Decide this is a terrible way to do this job.

>>1167685
the death ladder looked spooky enough lad

>>1172563
Tables stories: The Tabeling.
>Be me
>Helping first asshole manager set up a display for some holiday. (He likes to snap a pic to corporate to get a handjob for it.)
>He keeps telling me I am scuffing the floor, I am just trying to not cut my hands or break my foot.
>We are using the "bottom of the table" as a layer to sit on the floor so we are bent over as fuck moving this fucker and I have been just kicking it.
>He has been picking it up and trying to drag it, I am ignoring his stupidity because it just needs two more inches for his shit display.
>Hear him yell out and the table part jumps around a little as he wiggles his now broken foot from under it.
>You know the long, little bones you got after your toes?
>Yeah, he aimed it perfectly.
Hospital was just a mile away.

Fuck OSHA. Why shouldn't I be maimed for life while working minimum wage ?

>>1167989
>If you don't have the balls to stand up for yourself then you can't complain
One wonders how an an american can order lunch without a lawyer.

>>1172578
No one is complaining about the rules that actually help protect people. What we hate is small dick beauracrats showing up randomly and fucking people over for ignoring inane rules.

Example, in New Zealand, WorkSafe is our OSHA. WorkSafe requires all mains devices on site to be tested and tagged (which is itself a joke, but we'll leave that alone for now) A guy on a site I was at got hit for a few thousand dollars because HIS FUCKING TOASTER IN HIS VAN WASNT TEST TAGGED.

>work for a civil engineering company
>we're doing a tunnel inspection for a water intake in Michigan
>the staff at the water treatment plant are underfunded and largely incompetent
>there's a ~40m pit going down into the intake tunnel, covered in grates and surrounded by rails
>this is situated just next to the pumphouse, a 2 story box-like building
>whenever we have the grates off the pit we have harnesses on, latched to the railings for obvious reasons
>one day with the pit open some fat dude comes out, climbs over the railing with no harness, there's a small crane operating over it and ropes all over
>yell at him to get the fuck back, its not safe
>he yells back "don't worry man, I'm the safety inspector"

A few days later, some thing had gone wrong and the "suits" all came down from the offices
>long story short there was equipment stuck down this 40m pit
>the suits don't have a good enough view
>they decide to climb onto the pump house roof to get a view
>now theres 7 people on the rail less roof, leaning over a ~50m drop to gushing water and turbines

Genuinely amazed no one died there in the few weeks we were there

>>1172604
Another story from work
>in Columbia, doing and inspection offshore
>we had all our equipment sent down in a big shipping container
>we're in port mobilising onto a tug boat
>the higher ups from the port company are there from another city
>we're waiting to mobilise but the workers are telling us the crane machinery is jammed
>we wait in port for three days, eventually the higher ups have to leave
>as soon as they're gone the workers tell us the crane is fixed
>they start to lift the container
>it gets about 12 inches off the ground before the cable completely snaps, dropping the shpping container
>the cable was rusted to shit and the workers had been waiting for the management to leave before attempting it
>smashed a few camera lens but for the most part okay

>>1172518
Beautiful.

>>1172582
At that point, you just kill the inspector, bury him in a batch of concrete, and pretend he never showed up.

>>1172582
I'd argue the difference between "rules that protect people" and "inane rules" is a very blurry line
The toaster example is fucking uncalled for though

Got a story of my own too, probably one of the most dangerous things I've ever done. Not exactly OSHA, but sorta workplace safety
>At boy scout camp as troop leader
>Finishing up setting up camp, get a younger scout chopping up some fallen trees for firewood
>One rule for axe use is to give the axehead a good whack to make sure it's secure on the handle
>Both the quartermaster who handed him the axe and the scout neglect to check that
>Scout goes to chopping, I'm standing nearby to double-check that he's not in danger of chopping his foot off or something
>After a few swings it happens, as he goes into a big swing the axehead flies off the handle
>Not sure how I did it, but as the axehead flew perpendicular to me I managed to reach out and grab it
>Scoutmaster farther in camp yells "OH SHIT" around this time as he saw the axehead fly
>Meanwhile the scout hit the wood with the handle, then busted his forehead open when it bounced back and hit him
>He turns around and looks at me, I've got the axehead in my hand
>Do the only thing I can think of, get his Totin' Chit (Little card saying a scout has gone through axe/knife safety and is allowed to use them), announce to the troop "Rules tend to exist for good reason", cut a corner off his card and hand it back
I shudder to think how astronomically bad that could have been from such a small slipup

>>1170531
If you fall face first into a puddle of water unconscious, you drown, anon.

>>1172629
I'm amazed that you managed to catch a flying axehead without cutting your hand

>inside new house doing some prewire work
>Roof is already done, some guys are just doing shingles on the gables
>Walking past the framing for the fireplace when
>CRASH
>Jesus Christ what the fuck was that
>The guys are fucking throwing shingle offcuts down the chimney

Holy crap if I had been in that cavity doing anything one of those would have fucking brained me.

>>1172663

A life jacket does not elevate your face out of a puddle of water.

>>1172708
3 times out of 4 you'll be safe. that fourth time, though...

>>1172849
No shit.

Takes a litteral act of congress to change it and court to fight frivilous bullshit fines.

>i'm just doing my job
>well u fat sweaty stankfuck faggot MSHA KEK. Maybe u should get a job where u dont grt paid to be a sleazy cunt?

>>1172812
Yeah u gotta watch dumb faggots. I almost murdered my good friend.

>ina giant hammermill rock crusher
>it just stops and fills up twice a day for 6 months...
>no idea why
>shoving 75 poubd rocks out a hole 20 feet to the ground.
>bro hollers "hold up a sec i wanna look at this bearing. I think its out...
>dont hear him because dropped one on my foot and violently cussing everything around me. My job, people, bosses, the sun etc...
>ahhhhh wtf shhit ass cocksucker hell bullshit anon!
>huh?
>fucker was right in the rock pile and thank christ it was heavy enough i rested it on the sill of the door and shoved it
>scraping noise caused him to look uo and see it and try to move
>grazed his shoukder instead of killing him.

Dont need hardhat. Just gonna be out to look at a belt for 30 seconds...

>>1172663
I know i almost have. But if i go that way well, whatever

>>1172621
Also Beautiful

>>1172582
This 100% guys. I know my job can be dangerous but i am safe. If i walk outside and a pkane lands on me its a fluke accident. It happens. Stupid shit like life vests or not allowed hokes in the tank of a semi whos only job is to spray water on the road is so fucking stupid. Just because one idiot faggot had a stroke and fell into the crusger doesnt meen we all need to be 100 feet back behind a railing. That's dumb. How the fuck u see wtf going on in it. U cant have cameras without windshield wipers and thats just fucking gay

>>1172580
95% of all law suits are here.

>balls.

Eeeeyeah anon. His kid and my good friend is about to be a world champion heavyweight kickboxer and the other one is fucking rich.

If i had won my life would be ruined. Not to mention someone upstairs had an obvious reason for me being crippled.

I now believe tgat it is to slow the fuck down and not work 100 hours a week chasing my tail. Also, am study personal finance and investing because i dont guess i can work till 90 now.

May have been a REALLY hard earned blessing. I'm not just some pipe dream faggot playing powerball. I AM going to be rich. No if but when. I have 2 houses and already seeing results.

I have debates with my almost layer buddy and can arguably hold my own with him avout real eatate and business law to the point he was talking shit to his proffessor about it and he called and said he would have coffee and mayne write me a recomendation letter. I just chuckled and as politely as i could told him to get fucked. There is no reason to waste time aucking lae dick when i can read a few books cheap and learn enough to hire good lawyers and communicate with them. I dont need to physicallyfile motions and sue or defend myself if i can have other people do it while i build more assets or sip keystone light on a beach. Nb4 hurdur redneck.

Fucking right i am and proud. Gonna be doing the same shit when im rich soon. Just putting busa motors on side by sides and shit instead of having a yard full of mowers.

I know wtf i want. And it aint much

>>1172255
LOST MY SHIT

>>1172241
Nah was just some rich asshole

>>1172909
Cuck.

>>1167964
Do you do air balancing? I'm in sheet metal looking to get into that.

>>1169433
Do they break into his work van/truck?

>>1172582
>TOASTER IN HIS VAN

I know little about New Zealand but this almost sounds like toaster-equipped vehicles are the norm there, so everyone can enjoy delicious toasted goods at any time. Maybe it's hidden in the center armrest, or in a double DIN dashboard slot.

>>1172812
It's awkward when it's your boss doing dangerous stuff. Used to work in a kitchen that had pretty good safety procedures; one is when you're walking with a knife carry it pointed straight down at your side. This is important in a fast paced crowded kitchen. Every now and then one of the owners liked to come back and "help". She had the disconcerting habit of walking around holding the knife at chest height, pointed outward like a miniature lance. After a couple close calls someone showed her the proper method.

>>1172909

You drunk bruh?

>>1167039
are we good??

>>1172006
We had our safety committee just come in and do their monthly walk around the shop(my first time meeting them as I'm just about 3 weeks in) and it was comprised of two senior supervisors, one superintendent, and their main boss(I don't know his title). So glad to hear when they said safety is first & foremost. "If you have to call an "All Stop" because you're not sure of something, do it. No one is going to write you up, fine you, or retaliate because of it. They might call you a pussy but it'll just be a joke. We want to make sure everyone goes home alive with all fingers, toes, eyes & nose."

I love my new job.

>>1172567
>>1172563
>>1172558
Thx for stories anon.

>Work on a pot farm
>Feds ignore us except taking our tax revenue
The shit I've seen...

>>1173299
I had a job that mandated cut gloves when using the deli-slicer (reasonable) and any knife (annoying)
I wouldn't have had a problem with it, except they only had small and medium sized gloves and I wear an XL

I got chewed out once for not using one while cutting veggies and an explanation that I physically could not use the gloves and do my job at the same time was no use
boss made me put the gloves one, which did not fit and only gave me use of two of three knuckles and refused to put in an order for properly sized cut gloves because I could fit my hand in even if I couldn't use my hand

I quit that job because that was only the very tip of the shitberg

>>1168778
Good saftey galsses with side shields.
Good lighting
more lighting
magnifier with lighting
Gun for the bad parts of town
Good gloves
Kneeboard

What kind of safety training do you guys have? Who /osha30/ here?

This OSHA shit sounds like a pretty sweet deal.

Hang around and find shit wrong so people can get mad at you for saving their lives.

I wanna be a smug asshole too.

Where do I sign up?

I got my OSHA 10 over the winter, company requirement. Did it on the clock after hours at our office, so the whole office was empty. 3 hours a day, got a bunch of snacks and just lounged while tuning the PowerPoint out.

saw someone die

>>1175158
yeah :(
four bodies, five tarps.

>>1167969
This and churches carry heavy insurance because of the potential issues.

>>1170115
We work with this same type of palitizer.

LOTO saves lives

>worked for company building art exhibitions one summer as a teenager
>making walls, display furniture, podiums ect
>go into back room to get something
>its behind a bunch of shelving and there are loads of stacked chairs blocking my way in
>decide to climb over them
>halfway over stack slips and i smash my knee into a metal table frame

Fractured my knee. Luckily the bones all stayed in place and i didn't need surgery. Still it was a pain in the ass wearing a brace for a couple of months.

Not really trade related but an osha nightmare when I worked at a ragstock clothing consignment store at the mall half a decade ago.
>be only male working at store
>as such I'm basically shipping and receiving manager for entire store
>manager recently back from maternity leave so she's constantly in back milking herself
>crammed into tiny corner of mall
>Christmas sweater season so we've got shipments of around 10 thousand dirty old sweaters crammed into big overstuffed boxes
>only way to get to the back halls of the mall is via a hallway in back of store
>dumb hipster girls who work there have piled up these boxes on both sides of hallway and created a fucking archway by leaning the tipping stacks if boxes into one another
>no pallet jack or flat cart
>I have to go downstairs, bring about 100 3x4 heavy as fuck overstuffed cardboard boxes of sweaters up 3 floors from the truck one at a time, and maneuver them through the fire hazard Stonehenge of boxes and find room for them
>takes me a few hours to do what could take 20 minute, truck driver does not help load shit, get chewed out by boss for taking too long forcing her to stop milking her breasts with a pump in the back on company time and storing her breast milk in the fridge
I hate women and I hate hipsters. Women get paid less for a reason.

>>1175261
I have a nerve pinch in my shoulder from working there to this day, and sometimes it makes my arm go numb. They paid me overtime a lot, though, so I stayed. Fucking DUMB.
unrelated, but also
> end up quitting
>hang out with one of those dumb hipster chicks, end up dating for a few years
>shitty tumultuous relationship for a while but eventually we get it together
>we decide that in a year we will move to Missouri
>find out a few months before we leave that she is pregnant
>at the same time find out she used to be a stripper and was banging her dad's best friend before dating me
> relationship begins to fall apart again
>find out she cheated on me a month before we're set to leave
>she tells me it's over, goes and gets my alleged child aborted, and moves alone
Women are the fucking worst dude

>>1175270
don't date strippers

>>1175275
I definitely wouldn't have if I had known ahead of time. Thots get trickier every day

>>1171759
Best part of that is catching an inspector tampering with shit on film, then getting arrested and fined when you bring the evidence forward because you "filmed the inspector without authorization."

This is why >>1168825 is a day laborer, and I'm sitting cozy fitting pipes at a nuclear power plant

>>1168904 are you >>1168825

>>1171072
>I'm sure someone
Nah, I fully agree. But I go for actual safety glasses, and I'll go deaf soon anyway because genes so fuck the hearing protection. The rocks in the face are a great teacher, sure it smarts, but you get over it quick because you're not a millennial pussy. Though I forgo the long pants sometimes too and just wear the shorts I had on. That really sucks, but letting out the bad blood from time to time is good for you.

>>1172942
No, fuck air balancing, engineer draws up duct work u complete , months later u have to band aid dict work cause engineer fucked up and building owner cheaps out on actual fix

>>1171723
C A R P E L T U N N E L S Y N D R O M E

Found this channel on Youtube. They're pretty funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyD3ACgLnrY

>what is pendulum

>>1171060
The government

>>1170089
Victim blaming, cool, cool, very cool person.

>>1172905
It's obvious by your remarkable diction that you went far in school. Valedictorian, I'm sure. Clearly, you know best.

You work construction because you like the fresh air, right? Couldn't be because you've got the brains of neanderthal. Nah.

>Can't use a pick ladder at my warehouse anymore until I undergo working at heights training
>Apparently the LPG hoist in a non-ventilated warehouse is fine until I get said training, which is what I was trying to avoid by using the picking ladder

Just, fuck, man.

>Undergo a written warning for failing to do ladder work unhooking a lighting fixture 10ft off the ground for no reason other than I didn't want to

Nigga do you want me on a fucking ladder or not, holy shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9l4YkyGj4

>>1176159

>He will let this slide
>He probably signed on receipt

>1176118

If he was a n00b I'd be more understanding but the way he talks about it implies he is pro.

Anybody experienced with wielding that type of power equipment knows that you stand well clear of the potential area of effect

>>1175478

I might not use the face shield. But I am damn well wearing long pants.

I know I played up only wearing shades because I am a badass but desu I should get one. Recently I have been getting sprayed with animal shit hidden in tall grass.

>working in a brick factory
>one of the stacking machines trips a limit switch
>needs to be reset
>switch is 10 meters up
>supervisor does not want to climb up, tells me to lift him up on a pallet on a forklift
>I tell him to fuck off and get a ladder
>he asks someone else to lift him up
>forklift is completely fucked, pedals and brakes are worn out, cannot be driven smoothly and is very jerky
>other person lifts him up and is nervous so keeps braking and accelerating suddenly, causing a huge swing at the height of the forks where fucknuts is standing
>almost falls off several times
>almost gets his hands caught in the chains
>just to save 5 minutes putting up some ladders

>same factory
>power cut, brick machine full of hardening cement which has to be removed before it sets completely fucks the machine
>we have to dig it out
>6 hours later
>hear sirens and a conveyor belt starts whirring somewhere
>"power must be back"
>"is the machine turned off?"
>"I'm not fucking waiting to find out!"
>jump out, five guys still inside it right in the path of a 50 ton thing thats swings back and forth
>more stuff starts coming on, they panic
>"GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE NOW!"
>five guys climbing over each other to squeeze out out a tiny crack
>last guy out almost has a heart attack
>supervisor never turned the machine off and almost killed all of us, was outside smoking when the power came back on

>>1176344

>same factory
>cement mixing machine has to be cleaned with a drill at the end of each shift
>you have to get inside it to clean it
>obviously if somebody turned it on you would be mince meat
>complicated lockout procedure, made redundant by the fact the lockout is broken and they dont want to fix it
>people still getting in and cleaning it
>refuse to do it myself
>"you have to do it!"
>"no"
>complain to the company director and it causes a shitstorm

>>1167792
That, my man, is shrewd fucking business and every time the employees see their cooler they'll think of safety consciously or not.

You are the kind of supervisor I'd hire.

>>1167969
Churches have insurance and you aren't offending Cthulhu by suing. See a fucking lawyer because the consequences of your injury will follow you for life and they are only just beginning.

>>1176344
>>1176348

Same supervisor and if so this is why I dont like the method of making someone a supervisor after working at a place long enough

>>1171976
You are doing it right and the consequences of lifting stupidly will fuck you up so never deviate from your safety rules.

When I was young and dumb I damaged my back but it healed well because since then I always find a way to use a machine and/or rigging to move shit safely under control. I wouldn't get hurt to save a jet engine so I sure as fuck won't get hurt to save anything lesser mine or not.

>>1175270
>I have a nerve pinch in my shoulder from working there to this day, and sometimes it makes my arm go numb.

If you feel it in your shoulder, have your neck and shoulder checked including nerve conduction test. I have peripheral neuropathy on my dominant side but it's due to waiting too long to get my neck checked out. A C3/4 fusion ten years ago would have avoided that.

It's difficult to diagnose such damage on your own. Never assume shit.

>>1171759
I worked HazMat and safety in the Air Force and for a community college.

ALWAYS escort inspectors and whoever escorts them should have social skills. Fix everything you can and be ready to correct what they find on the spot. You'll get minor writeups anyway which is expected.

>>1168179
Well, not all of us hate you. I admire the balls go that kind of job. Safety hating retards are just whiney babies that get surprised that yes, you need to wear your safety shit again today. They get surprised all the time and act indignant. All that bitching and moaning takes moree time and energy than just sucking it up and using the equipment like an adult.

Just insecure faggots that think they'll dodge falling stuff like a ninja or never slip or make a mistake ever.

>>1176364

Yeah that guy was a total asshole but this is just the culture here in Ireland, safety = pussy. I just remembered a new one that happened this week in a new factory:

>unloading stuff from a container
>they are too cheap to build a loading bay, so the forklift is dragging the stuff to the end of the container with a chain
>first time doing this job, ask hows it done
>"put the chain on it and climb then backwards and wait" (instead of going to a safe place)
>if the chain snaps it could hit and kill me
>this has happened before
>still do it

An absolutely toxic H&S culture which brands you a pussy for refusing to do dangerous things and rewards putting your life on the line for bullshit

>DIY gore

Mhmm... Nootka...

>Local flour mill has Ministry of Labor come through their building
>Building is super old and looks like it would be super sketchy
>Owner actually spends tons of money to keep it safe
>Lady from ministry seems something she thinks is -----extremely----- unsafe
>Issues stop order, shuts the place down, issues fines out the ass
>Owner fights it all for almost a year
>Even goes to court about it all
>Judge orders reinspection by someone else from the ministry
>They send their top inspector to look
>All stop work orders are lifted and fines disappear
>No compensation for owner or employees
>Stupid bitch still has a job

And that is why I don't like the MoL

>>1176491

>MOL
>Intelligent beings work here

>Some one about to get fired for stealing beer straight from the beer cooler in the bar
>Spotted on camera while we were investigating a separate incidents as it usually happens
>New HR girl decides to follow up to see if stealing warrants immediate termination, despite knowing the answer
>Lady at the ministry literally said "well it's just beer so I don't think she can be fired for that, so you will have to pay severance"
>Hear this in the meeting
>Excuse me, what?
>Not even in HR but I call my buddy who actually manages the reference department and ask him what the fuck is going on over there
>He explains that he has some bitch is fucking up the whole programme but despite her immediate termination offences she is family to the minister and he can't remove her without guaranteeing his own demise
>She is literally, knowingly giving false information
>He has informed the minister more times than he is comfortable with
>He keeps saying that she'll get with the programme
>Nothing changes
>Tell him to just send over the gazette so our retards don't have to call his retards

Such is life in ooga booga land

>>1167039
I just completed my 10 hour OSHA training. Literally violated it immediately on first job when my employer didn't give a shit about proper ventilation. how the fuck do places keep operating like this

>>1176446
Irish are expendable by nature and they know ir

>>1176460
still dont get why people buying this shit why not get a normal water heater with tank for not even 200 bucks(150 for cheap ones)..or they don sell them in ongo bongo land?
>>1176512
well stealing is national sport even here afther almost 60 years of totalitarian fuck ups.. and people are like hurr durr gypsis are parasites, nigger you stole like half shit in your house

>>1176740

The problem with those water heaters is bad installation.

I have 3 in my house. At 100 coconuts each they are much cheaper than a boiler that costs 10,000 coconuts after shipping and duties and that's before you re-plumbing the whole concrete house while will include chipping up tile and chiseling concrete wall. It will cost a additional 15,000 coconuts if I do the re-plumbing right. I would need to re-tile 6 rooms and fuck up 4 walls, that's if I don't want hot water to the kitchen and laundry but forget that as it is not shower. There is no basement so I would have to find a house for it which would be another cool 2000 coconuts.

Then there is no gas mains and who says a third world plumber would install a boiler properly if he can't manage a simple shower head?

Total cost of 3 shower head heaters?

300 coconuts installed correctly

Total cost of boiler 27,000 coconuts

As a maintenance manager for a large hotel I make 28,800 coconuts a year and I can barely afford to keep my Suzuki vitara running.

So it will cost 93% of my yearly salary (before taxes) for me to have a boiler improperly installed with no parts support so it can blow up and while most of the house would be alright someone is likely to get hurt.

The better alternative is a solar water heater but then there is still the re-plumbing issue. The house was built in the 50's and will probably outlast my kids, kids. When the roof is replaced in 25 years (30,000) it would be easier to re-plumb from the top so maybe then I would be able to afford solar water heating.

It doesn't get colder than 26C so it's not so bad

>>1168833
Lel safety fag trying this hard to pretend he is even relevant to any job site there is.

>>1167904
No he didn't, because he didn't learn

>>1172604
Tetratech?

>>1176779
put the lime in the coconut