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How do i get a get a super smooth finish with my wall painting? in painting onto already painted walls which are brick and plaster. Painted one room and it has that sort of orange peel look (thibnk thats the term) like you can see in this picture. I think most people think its desirable and every house see4ms to have it but i want ultra smooth almost like the look of an unpainted door (next pic)

>> No.1166643
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1166643

>>1166641
door, you know the super smooth machine finish these sort of doors have before painting?

>> No.1166654

>>1166641
fine grit sanding inbetween coats is your best bet.

>> No.1166656

>>1166654
this, the more layers of paint you paint over, the more it magnifies any hills and valleys in the paint. only way to knock that down is sand it. never sanded a wall before so I'm not sure if you can use a belt sander or if you gotta do it by hand. either way, wear a dust mask and put down dropcloths because that shit's gonna get everywhere.

>>1166643
doors are sanded smooth.

>> No.1166690
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>>1166654
240? did that between coats in one room, this was the finish (from about a foot away

>>1166656
been doing it by hand with a large sander on a stick. was considering an orbital sander but a few people told be it was stupid, idk. i thought doors were sprayed mechanically. are they sanded with 400+ grit or something?

>> No.1166937
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>>1166641
Paint is just the covering over the texture.
What you're after is a new texture, not new paint.

Skim coat the wall with thinned-out joint compound (pancake-batter consistency). The premix stuff is cupcake-icing consistency, so you can either add a little water to that, or get the dry stuff and mix up however much you need (a little cheaper this way if you need a lot of it).
Go over that with a sanding block (get the big one for doing drywall sanding, in your case it'll make life much easier) once the skim coat is dry.

Throw a coat or two of primer on the walls, THEN do paint on that.

>> No.1166942

The othervthing you'll get is stippling from a roller or brush marks from a brush, if your wall texture is actually smooth, you'll need to add a thinner to the paint, floetrol or something similar

>> No.1167059

>>1166690

That is a shit paint job man, you applied too much paint, that level of unevenness needs a angle grinder to get level, not sandpaper

>> No.1167062

>>1166690
If it looks like orange peel you've used too much paint.

>> No.1167064

>>1166937
Are you hungry?

>> No.1167065

>>1166641
Painter here, 15 years.

That look is what every single painted wall in history looks like when you put your head so close to it you can see molecules.

I am the same as every other professional painter and use a roller.

If you want to look like that door, spray a lacquer on the wall to seal it, then spray another. Then use a paint gun like they use on a car, and spray multiple layers of paint thinly.

Then spray more lacquer.

Once you have acheived your level of anal perfection, marvel in how few of your visitors give a shit about the difference between a painted wall and you own perfection.

If you find someone who cares, kill them as they will threaten your perfection by using electrolysis to stick metallic paint to their wall in
an effort to out smooth you.

>> No.1167067

>>1167065
>professional painter

what paint color is best?

>> No.1167072

>>1166937
idk, the wall is smooth, even the undercoat is fairly smooth

>>1167062
>>1167059
is it really that bad? that pic was from 1 foot away and looks like what the coat under it did. I didnt think i used that much paint either, in fact i thought i used too little.

>>1167065
I know, i know and your not the only one to say that. However why would you ever settle for less? I love your humor by the way, outsmooth is my new favorite

>> No.1167076

>>1167072
>is it really that bad?

Yes it is bad and you should feel bad about it

Seriously it is bad but don't feel bad about it, you are not a pro obviously and obviously whatever you think you did right, you were wrong

>> No.1167091

>>1166641
Dude, just leave it alone. Since it's been painted your stuck with it. Next wall you do just use a 3/8 or 1/4 nap roller and flat paint. But they won't work well if the wall has a hump or bad spackle job cause the nap might not reach all the surface evenly. Flat hides tons of imperfections. >>1167065
Listen to this guy is you have nothing better to do for the next month.

>> No.1167098

>>1167065
>>1167059
wait so is it good or bad?

>> No.1167100

Skim coat
Pole sander
Airless paint sprayer

>> No.1167103

>>1167098
it is bad, but nobody cares, but it is bad

>> No.1167121

>>1167100
>>1166937
would it be better to just rip the paint off the walls? it seems to come off too easily with tape, so i bet i could just tape up all the wall and it would rip off easy. Even painters tape peeled off the coat that was there. The prime and paint?

>> No.1167133

>>1167121
It's probably not the paint as much as what's behind the paint.

>> No.1167136

>>1167065
I'm not OP but what do you recommend?

>> No.1167138

>>1167133
seems to fairly flat plaster.

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>>1167064
kek, always

>>1167121
More effort than it's worth. Do
>>1167100
this.

>> No.1167198

>>1167100
This will work. Just be aware that if there's any unevenness in your walls AT ALL it'll show up like a billboard with any direct lighting and/or glossy paint.

>> No.1167300

Having the same issue.
I was told to sand off the imperfections, which should remove the hills
Then skim over with mud over the valleys.

If the valleys are minimal; you can get away with just a finish, which is using a little mud with a bit of extra water mixed in.

Otherwise add first a thicker layer of mud without the water and let it dry off first for a few hours. Using a very generous amount of mud. You can just take it off the wall and repeat. Using either a knife or rectangle trowel (the longer they are the better)

If done right, you won't need to finish again with sanding.

>> No.1167740

In the automotive world, you can get something called Filler Primer.
Its a primer applied in thick coats, and is easily sanded.
The idea is to fill any low spots, and sand out the high spots creating a level surface.

Perhaps something similar exists for interiors.

>> No.1167806

>>1167740
There is. It's a hose similar to what firefighters use against a burning building. You quickly fill the wall and then start skimming the wall for that silky smooth result, throwing back the majority of the compound to the bin for reuse.