/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>1556358
>That only was a thing in the mid-late 20th century, and around the late 70s into the 80s they lost respect in favor of the "designers" who hired them and rarely did manual work themselves.

SAVED!

I shit an american construction here often and for very good reasons, but its actually america that tried changing that trend with their yeomanship culture, hard working self made men and all that which they still have to some degree today. Suprisingly, Trump also comes from enterprenurship circles not aristocratic (as far as we know).

What happened in the 70s, or even 60s is that designers/architects went from reisential to big builds so residential went to shit, you can even see that with F L Wright and his residential design - its totally masturbatory, built to look not to live in. Its like giving a construction engeneer a task to design a log house, it simply doesnt work well.

On the other hand, plenty of highly skilled craftman to today also tend to overdesign their creations just to show of skill and miss the big picture. My ideal is integration of craftsman and the architect, high intellect will always work less with hands and vice versa, but not knowing even the basics of hand work isnt also good for high intellect (and vice versa).
You see that problem with underthinking in food making, but also with overthinking. Its hard to say who is right, but I can surely claim that smth is deeply disfunctional in this relation.

are you the stave church guy?

>>1556395
>you're arguing that HVAC is unnecessary too

it is. If a residential build needs (=rellies on) HVAC, shoot your sleazy contractor.

>wat? a wooden building with stone underneath?
>no McSlabbing and stands still for centuries? It must have some hidden McRebar
>no way that thing can survive without McWaterproof laque
>how do you mean it doesnt have tar flamed all over the roof? how else would it survived more than 20 years?
>Its probaly built in a mild climate to survive all the elements