/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>436289
>What are you making this for. 4:1 is awful if you actually want any protection, be it for smashing each other with wooden swords or anything. It's basically a joke for armor.

which is why it was the default weave used for 1,500 years in europe, from the Roman lorica macula to the 15th C mailshirt.

Yes, clearly, its a joke.


Alternatively, you might know nothing about the subject. OP, ignore this arsehole.

all mail links are iffy if they're made from poor materials - a mild or galvanised steel wire, for instance, is nothing close to the strength of a a drawn carbon steel spring wire / piano wire. butted mail is easily distorted and forced apart, compared to riveted links. riveted links are in turn easier to force apart than punched rings.

punched rings are used for 50% of a shit in plenty of medieval examples, it's much faster than closing all the links, after all.

the problem with spring steel wire is you need to anneal it (softening), do the work to shape it (making the link ends to be riveted closed.) and then reharden it to get full effectiveness. though even an un-hardened carbon is somewhat stronger than mild, and far harder than butted.

note most modern mail links are larger than historical originals, which are often around the 1/4 inch / 6-7mm dia. size, rather than the 3/8ths / 9mm sizes of modern stuff.


have a pic of genuine 15th C mail links.

butted maille or riveted?

>>23059
weeks. months, perhaps.

this stuff, paarticularly the riveted maille was incredibly time-consuming.