/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>2806692
>I am also NOT interested in tinkering with 3D printers as a hobby.
>I'm looking with interest at Voron printers.
You don't want a Voron. They exist for tinkerers to tinker with, they are not off-the-shelf, easy to use, beginner friendly, you WILL be monkeying with it forever because that's basically what they're intended for. It's the opposite of what you say you want. If you're not interested in 3D printing as a hobby, buy a Bambu printer. If opensauce is a requirement then buy a Prusa, they're insanely overpriced and their stance on opensource has faltered significantly, but they still produce perfectly good printers for ludicrous prices.

Prusa selling outdated DIY-tier hardware for professional prices so they can build the Czechoslovakian beard oil reserves.

>Beardy man continues to troll his cult of retards, now selling the Prusa Ankermake M5 Mk4 for only $800-$1100.
>For a Prusa that finally keeps up with a lightly modified Ender 3, and is still worse than the comparably priced P1P.

>still a bedslinger, it will never keep up with a P1P.
>still a 10-year-old printer with a 32-bit mainboard
>doesn't do anything you can't do with an off-the-shelf $250 Chink printer.
>Mesh bed leveling, bed probing, that's standard shit we've been doing for years.
>Linear advance? Been using it for years, it's a Marlin feature that Prusa could've been using for years now but hasn't.
>Input shaping? Finally gets added to Marlin, suddenly Prusa announces it as a "feature."
>Best I can tell, the Prusa has no selling points versus the P1P other than the higher price point to get a slightly worse printer.
>Fucking Haribo salesman continues to fail to impress, selling old boring shit for an insane markup and refusing to actually compete in the market.

>It's not that Prusa printers are "bad," they're definitely not, they're just such poor value at this point it's hard to recommend them.
>The SV06 is a great example, it's $300 at full price, $240 in the real world, takes less than 15 minutes to assemble if you're comfortable, less than 30 minutes for a complete noob who isn't too scared.
>Compare to a MK3S+ at $800 with a 6-8 hour build time (per Prusa), or $1100 assembled.
>They trade blows in the quality of some particular components, but the price destroys the comparison.
>Unassembled Prusa MK3S+, $800
>Sovol SV06 ($240), an Ender 3 S1 ($330), a Malyan M200 ($170), and 1kg of good Polymaker PETG for each ($22x3), $806.
>You could assemble/set up all 3 of them and print a half dozen benchy boats in less time than it takes to assemble the Prusa.
>They're not bad printers, just a horrific value.

I'd rather buy Apple.

>>2589827
It's still a bedslinger, it will never keep up with a P1P.
It has 0 selling points, it's still a 10-year-old printer with a 32-bit mainboard, it doesn't do anything you can't do with an off-the-shelf $250 Chink printer.
Mesh bed leveling, bed probing, that's all standard shit we've been doing for years.
Linear advance? Been using it for years, it's a Marlin feature that Prusa could've been using for years now but hasn't.
Input shaping? Finally gets added to Marlin, suddenly Prusa announces it as a "feature."

MK4 vs P1P:
250x210x220 vs 256x256x256 - P1P
Optional ESP Wi-Fi vs Wi-Fi and Bluetooth as standard - P1P
Bedslinger vs CoreXY - P1P is and will always be faster
No specs on hotend despite claims of "fast" printer vs Hotend that can reach 32 mm3/s flow rate tested with ABS - P1P

Of course they both have automatic bed leveling, I bought my first Bl-Touch almost 7 years ago now.

Best I can tell, the Prusa has no selling points versus the P1P other than the higher price point to get a slightly worse printer.
Fucking Haribo salesman continues to fail to impress, selling old boring shit for an insane markup and refusing to actually compete in the market.