/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.9967398]

me and my crew installed one of these in a luxury lower manhattan apartment
oh the sheer enjoyment of me and the boys making fun of a retard who spends $20k on a kitchen stove he'll never even cook on because he has money to eat take out 365 days a year twice a day
seriously i even felt sorry for the bastard considering how much we mocked him for being such a retard

[Anonymous No.9967409]

I want my mtv

[Anonymous No.9967413]

>>9967398
Back to work now little wagecuck

[Anonymous No.9967415]

>>9967409
money for nuthin
chicks for free

[Anonymous No.9967419]

>>9967398
My crew and I*

[Anonymous No.9967571]

>>9967398
resale retard, buyers at that segment expect top of the line appliances

>>9967419
literally proves point above, you retard

[Anonymous No.9967583]

>>9967398
custom kitchen delivery

[Anonymous No.9967603]

>fucking dumbass like he'll cook on it, the chipotle eating nerd

>What was that anon? Are you guys done yet?

>Almost sir, we'll be out of your hair soon

[Anonymous No.9967604]

>>9967398
I can taste your salty tears from here. I bet your boss pockets most of that 20k and you make minimum wage. You fucking wish you could live in a luxury apartment and have a nice kitchen, instead you're commuting an hour back to your slum to eat chicken and rice out of a crock-pot.

[Anonymous No.9967621]

Dont really wealthy people get chefs into their house to cook for dinner parties and stuff? A pro chef would get good use out of a stove like that. Plus it's just a baller aesthetic thing to live with.

[Anonymous No.9967625]

>things that never happened

[Anonymous No.9967912]

>>9967398
>lower manhattan
why do you work in a ghetto, op?

[Anonymous No.9968121]

>>9967603
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.9968132]

>$10m apartment
>$20k stove

nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.9968145]

>>9967398
I have the 6 burner version of this in my kitchen and use the shit out of it. If I had the space I would have installed this very model. I guess I might be a richfag.

[Anonymous No.9968158]

>>9968145
how much money do your parents earn a month?

[Anonymous No.9968163]

>>9967912
Lower Manhattan is NOT a ghetto, I live there.

[Anonymous No.9968168]

>>9968158
Oh my sides. I'm also an oldfag, so my parents have been pushing up the daisies for quite some time now. Thinking about retirement these days but I can't find anyone competent enough to hand off my consulting company to.

[Anonymous No.9968169]

>>9968145
Same here but with Wolf.

I got their smallest model because there simply isn't room for anything bigger. Otherwise one of those larger units likely would have been my choice.

[Anonymous No.9968176]

>>9967912
How long has it been sense youve been to nyc? Manhattan has changed.

[Anonymous No.9968184]

>>9967398
*My crew and I

This is why you're installing a stove worth 20k and not owning one.

[Anonymous No.9968190]

>>9968169
I really like that rosy colored kettle and the big copper pot!! That's a real comfy looking stove, anon. Makes me wanna work hard and have nice things.

[Anonymous No.9968214]

>>9968190
I'm working on reducing the copper collection at the moment.

My first step is to get rid of anything that isn't over 2mm thick copper. All the more decorative 1.5mm or less stuff is gonna go unless it's something small (like the kettle)

And i've got several things I need to have re-tinned before I can use them again, debating if I wanna just sell some of them or not. I'll probably keep the nicest stuff and get rid of the rest.

[Anonymous No.9968222]

>>9968190
>and the big copper pot!
THanks! I, recently had it re-tinned and then I polished it as well as I could manage without spending days on it.

[Anonymous No.9968268]

>>9968176
Like I said I live there, I live in the east village 3rd st and 2nd ave. It's only slightly ghetto because of the homeless shelter right on the bowery other than that it has a nice nite life.

[Anonymous No.9968280]

>my crew
Are you a pack of niggers

[Anonymous No.9968290]

>>9968168
>I'm an oldfag
Oldfag doesn't mean that you are old faggot it means that you have been here for a long time.
>Oh my sides.
welp, never saying that again

[Anonymous No.9968310]

>>9968290
Humbled by your superior intellect, I crave your forgiveness. For complete clarity, I am actually an old oldfag.

[Anonymous No.9968327]

>>9968310
fuck u

[Anonymous No.9968330]

>>9968280
we're Polish

[Anonymous No.9968350]

>>9968290
>>9968310
>>9968327
lmaoing @ this exchange

[Anonymous No.9968385]

>>9968214
Send them to me, ill make good use of them.

[Anonymous No.9968387]

>>9968222
Where do you do to get a pot re-tinned?

[Anonymous No.9968394]

I prefer Wolf. Is that really $20k? Damn. I spent about ~$17k on mine, including installation. Did he have anything else that is neat? I got some other cool stuff. I actually use mine.

[Anonymous No.9968398]

>>9968169
Ah, a fellow patrician. I see you have Wolf too. Sup bro?

[Anonymous No.9968404]

>>9968387
Depends where you go and what sort of copper you've got.

For cheaper stuff that I don't care much about I go locally for about $5 per inch of surface that needs tinning. Anywhere from $50 for smaller things to $150+ for larger items.

For nicer vintage stuff I have a guy in Canada that was recommended to me by an antique dealer that is friends of the family. He does very nice work, but it is a fairly expensive, so I have only used him for 2 pieces. One of which being that large pot. I paid around $250 for that to be retinned.

>>9968398
>>9968394
Nice Wolf, jealous of all that counter top space.

[Anonymous No.9968412]

>>9968394
>I spent about ~$17k on mine, including installation
Mine was around $4,000 >>9968169
It was a floor model and I installed it myself.

[Anonymous No.9968506]

>>9967398

Ehh... it's like making fun of a beginner motorcyclist for getting a 650cc over a 300cc as his first bike. That extra speed may not be needed right away. But when it is needed, he will be grateful.

[Anonymous No.9968545]

>>9967409
That little faggot with the earring and the make up, yea buddy, that's his own hair. That little faggot got his own jet airplane, that little faggot is a millionaire.

[Anonymous No.9968700]

>>9967398
I got one of these for my father. He uses it pretty often and is really pleased with the kitchen remodel.

[Anonymous No.9968719]

>>9968168
>I'm also an oldfag
>how to tell when someone has migrated here because of /pol/

[Anonymous No.9968736]

I feel like lower Manhattan had alot of places that are hip and expensive but are old as shit and trash, but that's how the residents prefer it.

t. Hell's kitchen resident

[Anonymous No.9969082]

>>9967912
A-are you serious?

[Anonymous No.9969135]

>>9967398
Rich people aren't some alien race that doesn't know how to cook. Heck, the more money you have the easier and more enjoyable it can be to actually cook for yourself.

[Anonymous No.9969185]

>>9969135
t. someone who never owned a cool million in his life

[Anonymous No.9969193]

>>9969185
Not myself, no, but my parents are well off enough that money has lost most of its value.

[Anonymous No.9969297]

>>9967398
>he has money to eat take out 365 days a year twice a day
Some people actually cook for enjoyment, not because they dont have the money to eat out ... people like that sometimes even visit cooking boards. Imagine that.

[Anonymous No.9969318]

>>9969297
> Cooking for enjoyment
> Visit a cooking board
heretic.

[Anonymous No.9969322]

>>9969185
You have some odd ideas about people with money. It might surprise you to know that their is just as much variation among the well off as there is among the struggling classes.

[Anonymous No.9969423]

>>9968168
>I'm also an oldfag
Hello r/eddit

[Anonymous No.9969453]

>>9968404
Literally what is the point

[Anonymous No.9969476]

>>9967398
Even if you enjoyed cooking what kind of shit can you make with a 20k stove?

[Anonymous No.9969570]

>>9968412
>>9968394
I wonder what make you choose wolf and who else were you considering before choosing, did the quality mean most to you or was the prestige element also a huge part of the deal

Anyhow i have coriat localy available to me and have ambitions to make my own cooking stations mostly food carts, within 18 months I hope to have something moving mostly in the testing and prototype stage of quick turn around of compact traveling foodcarts

[Anonymous No.9969721]

>>9968168
>I'm also an oldfag
three whole weeks, huh?

[Anonymous No.9970870]

>>9967409
We have to lift those microwave ovens, custom kitchen delivery.

[Anonymous No.9972121]

>rich boy shit
>anything but a cornue

L M A O I N G @ U R L I F E

[Anonymous No.9972134]

>>9972121

[Anonymous No.9972156]

>>9968163
ghetto confirmed

[Anonymous No.9972653]

>>9967912
i live here, its nice

[Anonymous No.9973357]

>>9972121
that's hideous

[Anonymous No.9973360]

>>9968168
oh my

[Anonymous No.9973390]

>>9968169
same stove its lovely but i broke one of those electrodes while cleaning. Anyway to fix it?

[Anonymous No.9973433]

>>9967413
Do you live with your single mother?

[Anonymous No.9973455]

What's all this queer shit that isn't an AGA?

[Anonymous No.9973493]

There's nothing wrong with installing appliances for a living, but if you're on 4chan bragging how you guessed someone might be stupid for how little you assume they use the appliance, then you probably have a chip on your shoulder about not being able to afford it.

[Anonymous No.9973614]

>>9969135

Money makes you lazy. Trump spends all day in bed while his butler cooks him well done steak and does mcdonalds runs for him.

[Anonymous No.9973645]

>>9973614
Not everyone is like that. In fact some people become rich because they know how to save their money by doing things like cooking.

[Anonymous No.9973690]

>>9967398
That dide pisses 20k so jokes on you and your faggot „crew“

[Anonymous No.9973867]

>>9967398
>laughing at someone who just bought a stove that cost more than your annual salary

[Anonymous No.9973875]

>>9967398
Idk I find 20k for a stove to be excessive.

Now I will gladly spend upwards of 2000 dollars on cookware.

[Anonymous No.9974449]

>>9973357
Nice shit opinion

[Anonymous No.9974565]

>>9967398

Haha, I have something similar, top of the line convection oven and gas stove by Wolfe. Enjoy being poor faggot.

[Anonymous No.9974634]

i can get that exact range for 12000 leaf bucks so someone's getting ripped off

[Anonymous No.9974647]

>serious about cooking
>not having a french top section

[Anonymous No.9974860]

>>9968214
>obsessing over 2mm measure
You’re the person who was shitting on the All Clad copper ply line.

[Anonymous No.9974918]

>>9967398
desu it would be a shame to use that beauty

[Anonymous No.9974944]

>>9973690
>faggot „crew“
Whats with making fun of crews? Enjoy life in moms basement, FAG

[Anonymous No.9974977]

>2018
>still using gas

savages

[Anonymous No.9975032]

>>9974977
i hate this meme
the cooktop under the pan will be hot enough to melt the butter for a long time after you remove the pan

[Anonymous No.9975608]

>>9974977
Nice b8 m8

[Anonymous No.9975673]

>>9974647
What advantages are there for something like this?

[Anonymous No.9975691]

>>9975673
better long simmering control for stocks and soups.
The inner plate removes and exposes the high heat burner for wok cooking.
You don't have to fiddle with knobs, you move your pot/pan closer to the center for higher heat and further away for lower heat.

[Anonymous No.9975692]

>>9967398
>my crew
fuck off with your nigger speak

[Anonymous No.9976920]

>>9967413
This.

[Anonymous No.9976935]

>>9975691
seems like it would be great in a restaurant but cooking at home it doesn't hurt to be less efficient with your time, and surely it's a big waste of gas. Like don't they not turn off burners in a restaurant either? That's craziness at home.

[Anonymous No.9976963]

>>9976935
You can also cook with multiple pots/pans on a French Top at one time. Like you can boil water for pasta near the center, while you make a sauce at a medium heat a bit away from the center, and at the same time saute veggies. If you need to keep a pot warm, you can move it to the far sides.

It does seem like having 4 regular burners would be more efficient, but like a lot of traditions it isn't always about maximum efficiency.

[Anonymous No.9976971]

mmmmm 22k BTU max burner, low simmer feature down to 100 degrees, dual convection oven... i know what my next remodel's gonna have

[Anonymous No.9976979]

>>9968169
i know that's their design thing, but i hate those red knobs. they look fuckin ugly

[Anonymous No.9976985]

>>9968394
what's the countertop?

[Anonymous No.9977016]

>>9972121
comue makes some great stuff. check out AGA as well, they make some really gorgeous cast iron ranges in a wide variety of colors

[Anonymous No.9977158]

>>9967398
>Thinks a guy could afford that stove and not have a qt3.14 white woman to cook for him instead of eating out

[Anonymous No.9978327]

I paid $5500 all up for my stove top and oven. It was for the features desu, i got one of the hottest commercial wok burners available as well as an oven that cooks pizza as well as my wood oven.

[Anonymous No.9978338]

>>9978327
What did you get? Do you have specific brands/items?

[Anonymous No.9978756]

>>9978327
Does it have a broiler and pilot light?

[Anonymous No.9978771]

>>9975032
But it wont be hot enough to burn shit into the glass surface when your pasta or potato water boils over, and that is a real point in its favour.

[Anonymous No.9978798]

>>9975692
a crew is literally a group of people who work together ... you do know that words that are reappropiated do actually (still) have an original meaning right ?

[Anonymous No.9980084]

>>9978338
>>9978756
Ilve and highland.

>>9978756
Its an electric oven but a gas stove top, it was a restriction due to the pre existing piping.

[Anonymous No.9980086]

>>9967398
Yeah you sure showed him

[Anonymous No.9980513]

>>9967398
I work in customer service for the manufacturer of this stove.
I check the internal "Scratch-n-Dent" list with all the small defect appliances at 30-70% discounts periodically hoping to find one of these on the list. Nothing yet. These things are well-made as fuck, and they're more aesthetic than Wolf and Viking in my opinion. The star burners, the blue accent knobs, blue LEDs, etc.

Yes, you are witnessing a real-life shill.

OP, if it's any consolation, I can tell you that the owner will be minorly inconvenienced when the paint on the grease tray for the griddle starts to flake off. It's the one flaw...

[Anonymous No.9980533]

If consumer reports is to be believed they say pro-styled stoves aren't worth a damn.

[Anonymous No.9980571]

>needing to pipe gas and electricity to your home
>not having a wood fired range

lmao @ city cucks

[Anonymous No.9980577]

>>9980571
>water filter
back2pol

[Anonymous No.9980595]

>>9967398
Imagine being such a fucking failure at life that you unironically make fun of the rich just because they're successful.

[Anonymous No.9980657]

>>9967398
only a retarded wagie like you would think to put a cheap stove into a luxury apartment and devalue the shit out of it. it doesn't matter if the only uses it or not.

[Anonymous No.9980662]

>>9980595
>i enjoy being locked in my cuckshed because at least my masters have money
Good goy!

[Anonymous No.9980678]

>>9980084
Electric ovens tend to be better than gas. It's not that really good gas ovens can't be made, but they're more expensive for similar results.

[Anonymous No.9980695]

>>9980678
Gas ovens are better for baking as combustible gas produces water vapor, which is great for baking breads.

[Anonymous No.9980727]

>>9980695
Do they make an electric with steam injection? I've seen that feature on a few gas ovens, but I haven't really looked at electrics at all.

[Anonymous No.9980729]

>>9980678
Electric is a dry heat, better for some things.
Gas is a wet heat, again, better for some things. As mentioned by >>9980695
Baking is generally preferable in a gas oven. Cakes especially come out great.

[Anonymous No.9980779]

>>9980678
They both have positives and negatives really I grew up on gas in the north and moved to Texas where every apartment has electric.
I keep a portable gas stove for camping now.
Electric is a bit faster and easier to keep consistent. Gas is better for things that burn at the bottom like creme sauces since killing the heat kills it immediately and things boil over less. Baking is better with gas.

[Anonymous No.9980794]

>>9980678
Thats pretty much why i chose it. For cakes i just put a tray of water in

[Anonymous No.9980855]

>>9980678
unless we're talking high end ranges, gas is $100 more than electric in pretty much every major brand (ge, lg, samsung, etc). electricity is almost always more costly than gas in terms of usage, so you tend to save close to that over the life of the appliance

[Anonymous No.9980866]

>>9980855
Electric stoves are more efficient though.
https://www.npr.org/2010/10/21/130697865/harold-mcgees-keys-to-good-cooking-for-chefs

[Anonymous No.9980884]

>>9980866
It really comes down to local electricity cost vs gas cost.

My state is 4th cheapest for natural gas in the US. But like 35th for electricity cost.

[Anonymous No.9980893]

>>9967603
kek'd hard

[Anonymous No.9980898]

>>9980884
eh cost =/= efficiency.
No matter the cost electric is more efficient with energy.

[Anonymous No.9980927]

>>9980898
If gas is cheap enough compared to electricity it 100% matters...

Just do the math, it takes X amount of gas to cook for a month vs X amount of electricity.

If the gas is cheap enough, or if electricity is expensive enough, gas is simply the cheaper fuel.

Many people will find electricity is cheaper. As I said, it depends on the cost for you. Not everyone has the same energy cost.

[Anonymous No.9980934]

>>9980927
>If gas is cheap enough compared to electricity it 100% matters...
No electricity will always be more efficient than gas.
I don't know why you keep bringing up cost.

[Anonymous No.9980944]

>>9980934
...Because you replied to someone who was making their entire point about cost over time....

see >>9980855
>electricity is almost always more costly than gas in terms of usage, so you tend to save close to that over the life of the appliance


So again, if YOUR electricity cost is gonna be cheaper, great. But that isn't always true.

[Anonymous No.9980947]

>>9980866
Too efficient.
They heat up too fast and warp your pans.

[Anonymous No.9980959]

>>9980947
>They heat up too fast and warp your pans.
That's user error, they have dials for a reason.

[Anonymous No.9980973]

>>9980934
>electricity will always be more efficient than gas.
And that doesn't always matter in the real world.

>I don't know why you keep bringing up cost.
Not that anon, but the reason is simple. I don't care how efficient an electric stove is, if a gas stove will do the same job less efficiently but cost me less money. Efficiency only matters if it means a cost savings, and depending on the price per kilowatt Vs. the price per therm, in different areas gas or electric will be the better value.

[Anonymous No.9980979]

>>9980973
>Efficiency only matters if it means a cost savings
That's where you're wrong, time taken to boil water is important, Keeping the water boiling while blanching green veg is important.
I can only guess you don't cook.

[Anonymous No.9981196]

>>9980979
>time taken to boil water is important
This is important, but in my experience the difference isn't great enough to make a decisive difference.

>Keeping the water boiling while blanching green veg is important.
Neither gas or electricity have an issue with this. If your stove has issues doing this, it isn't because it is gas or electric, it is because you have a shit stove.

The bottom line is that neither is vastly superior to the other. They both have benefits and drawbacks, but neither have a fatal flaw or pure superiority. Otherwise you'd see restaurant kitchens being solely one, and you don't.

>I can only guess you don't cook.
That's the best you got?

[Anonymous No.9981232]

>>9981196
>Neither gas or electricity have an issue with this.
I can tell you've never cooked professionally as it depends more on the product to water ratio than burner.

[Anonymous No.9981242]

>>9967398
ebic bait

[Anonymous No.9981256]

You faggots will argue about anything.

This is what i used for 8 years of college and it was absolutely fine and i was able to do pretty much anything i wanted.

Everything else is luxury.

[Anonymous No.9981391]

>>9981256
>8 years of college
Congrats on your Associates, anon.
We knew you had it in you!

[Anonymous No.9981617]

>>9981256
wtf, a microwave with two hobs on top? I have never seen anything like that before.

[Anonymous No.9981755]

>>9981232
>I can tell you've never cooked professionally
This is a true statement. But since this is a discussion about home stoves, I fail to see how it is relevant to the discussion at hand.

>>9981617
I'd think it is a toaster oven, rarely see a microwave with a metal rack in it.

[Anonymous No.9983216]

>>9974977
>induction