Coffee thread

[Anonymous No.9955577]

Discuss methods, recipes, and ask questions.

Just got a V60. Anyone have some cool recipes?

[Anonymous No.9955604]

>>9955577
I got a cool recipe
>grind coffee
>pour 212F water

[Anonymous No.9955608]

>>9955604
>he burns his beans
tch

[Anonymous No.9955616]

>>9955577
>datadog
hello fellow /g/ crossposter

[Anonymous No.9955625]

>>9955608
I need to get a kettle that can hold 192

[Anonymous No.9955646]

Anyone try Death Wish coffee or alternatives?

[Anonymous No.9955668]

>>9955625
I have this and love it.

[Anonymous No.9955687]

You can only make a good pour with a good grind. Get a good grinder.

[Anonymous No.9955730]

>>9955577
I just switched back from a manual burr grinder to my good old $10 blade grinder, I was sick of spending 3-4 minutes grinding beans every morning when I could be done in 16 seconds.
The coffee doesn't even taste that different to make the effort worth it.

[Anonymous No.9955737]

>>9955730

THis is how you fuck up coffee. But fuck it up all you want because you enjoy that garbage.

[Anonymous No.9955757]

>>9955687
>shitty non-E61 'portafilter'
>shitty plastic scoop
>dollars to donuts using a pressurized filter basket

pretending to give 'advice' about coffee

[Anonymous No.9955759]

>>9955730
Why don't you just buy an electric burr grinder, faggot. Switching back to a blade grinder is stupid.

[Anonymous No.9955760]

>>9955737
fuck up how, exactly?
the only difference is more variance in grind size which can be kept to a minimum if I pulse instead of holding it down.

I wouldn't use a blade grinder to for espresso, but I don't have an espresso machine anyway.

[Anonymous No.9955810]

>>9955577
i just got a french press yesterday.
i feel all elegant and shit.

[Anonymous No.9955825]

>>9955810
My favourite.

[Anonymous No.9955916]

>>9955757
Of all the things to criticize, you choose his scoop? Who gives a shit as long as it transports the correct amount of coffee from the source to the destination?

[Anonymous No.9955929]

>>9955810
>used to be a major advocate of aeropress
>bought a one-cup french press
>never looked back

[Anonymous No.9955986]

I like using a siphon.

[Anonymous No.9956006]

>>9955986
You can't justify the amount of cleaning these shits actually require.
They're entirely for impressing retards at coffee shops.

[Anonymous No.9956022]

>>9955916
Piece of shit scoop with built in tamper meant for Starbucks brand pregeound coffee.

[Anonymous No.9956051]

>>9956006
It's no more than cleaning a couple glasses?

[Anonymous No.9956063]

>>9956022
Again, who gives a shit as long as the coffee stays in the scoop between points A and B?

[Anonymous No.9956066]

>>9955757
>he doesnt pick his own beans
Wow, stop pretending you can give criticism.

[Anonymous No.9956071]

>>9955916
I'm not that guy (read; snob) but the presence of a scoop would indicate that anon isn't grinding directly into his portafilter and is likely using preground coffee, which is a faux pas for coffee enthusiasts (read; snobs).

[Anonymous No.9956080]

Is it ok to sift coarse coffee grinds on a strainer to get rid of the fines?

[Anonymous No.9956085]

>>9956071
Grinding before brewing is the single biggest upgrade you can make to your coffee game, you make it sound like a needless additional step unlike every other coffee meme
>prewarming your mug
>prerinsing your filter
>measuring water temperature
>weighing grounds
>weighing the water
>setting your coffee device as tare on a goddamn scale

[Anonymous No.9956089]

>>9956071
I was under the impression that most grinders dispensed into detachable reservoirs, making scoops a pretty useful tool.

[Anonymous No.9956100]

>>9956089
Not if u own an espresso grinder. If you are making espresso with a grinder that doesn’t at least come stock with a portafilter holder you are doing it wrong

[Anonymous No.9956126]

>used moka pot
>coffee came out tasting burnt

What did I do wrong?

>left on a low flame, but it took over 10 minutes before there was even any hissing sound.
-Assumed I put it on way too low of a flame so put it up slightly higher
>now there's hissing after 3 more minutes
>coffee starts coming up, very very slowly
>way too slowly
>turn up heat slightly again and coffee starts shooting up rapidly
>oh no, must be too hot now
>take off flame asap and pour coffee into mug
>tastes burnt
>milk won't even fix burnt taste

[Anonymous No.9956139]

>>9956126
You fucked up the process long before you got it right. Try it again using what you learned.

[Anonymous No.9956143]

>>9956126
If the flame is still on while you hear gurgling, you've already burnt the coffee.

Also, moka pots require seasoning in much the same way as cast iron pots, you're supposed to use it daily so the coffee oils polymerize against the surface and create a nice protective barrier from the aluminum that mars the taste of the coffee.

[Anonymous No.9956151]

>>9956100
Says who? Some nobody fagtron who has a branch up his ass. Kys

[Anonymous No.9956152]

>>9956022

You're that worthless dumb type of cunt. You don't really research bean, pressure, extraction rate.

You're just some dumb cunt. Why do you human filth love to pretend? You really just don't do anything in life but pretend.

[Anonymous No.9956161]

>>9956139
>>9956143
Then what do I do? Should I put it on a high flame and turn it off as soon as I hear hissing?

[Anonymous No.9956197]

>>9956100
You think the scoop you use has more of an effect on the final product than the consistency and quality of the grind itself? You're not the coffee guru you think you are, m8.

[Anonymous No.9956223]

>>9956161
Put only the bottom half on the stove and wait till the water starts to bubble (i.e is just about to boil).

Then using a kitchen towel or an oven mitt to avoid getting burnt, add the coffee basket and screw the top half on and lower the heat and wait for the coffee to slowly come out.

Remove from the heat when the stream of coffee coming out of the valve turns from a slow dark brown stream to light brown bubbles.

[Anonymous No.9956230]

>>9956197

The people on this site are shut ins. They love their little toys. They're essentially adult children.

You use their toys or you're a bad parent. Treat them like babbies and they'll love you.

[Anonymous No.9956236]

>>9955625
Boil it to 210 and let it cool down.

[Anonymous No.9956242]

>>9955757
It does not matter what you scoop your beans with.

[Anonymous No.9956247]

>>9955929
I use my aeropress when I'm looking for non sedimenty coffee. I love my french press, but that last cup always has some good sludge in it.

[Anonymous No.9956254]

>>9955757

The funny fucking thing is, it was unpressurized, and you were too fucking stupid not to know it. It was a full filter you stupid stupid fuck up.

[Anonymous No.9956255]

>>9956143
>Also, moka pots require seasoning in much the same way as cast iron pots
Or you can just buy a quality Moka pot from Bialetti.

[Anonymous No.9956260]

>>9956255
I don't like how you capitalized the brand name and the former trademark name.
Fuck off marketer.

[Anonymous No.9956262]

>>9956126
Pre boil your water, cook on medium like a 6
Have a wet towel ready to put the pot on
Wait till the top part is mostly full then remove from heat and place on wet towel. The coffee will continue going up the siphon.

The burnt taste is literally that, your moka pot started cooking the coffee. Like others said, if it's on the heat and you hear it gurgle, you've already burnt the cup.

[Anonymous No.9956268]

>>9956255
Aluminium moka pots require seasoning regardless of brand. Stainless steel ones not as much.

t. bialetti owner

[Anonymous No.9956272]

>>9955757

See, asshole? You don't know a fucking thing about coffee. Stop talking to normal people.

[Anonymous No.9956286]

>>9956272
He's a retard, but to be fair the guy he was quoting posted some pretty shit-tier gear.

[Anonymous No.9956289]

>>9955757

So you just "retired" right? Why do you people not just use a captive bolt gun?

You're too stupid to live here.

[Anonymous No.9956298]

>>9956289
Stop samefagging

[Anonymous No.9956300]

>>9956286

It's the dumbest hill to die on. I'm gonna go to bed, these weird homunculi versions of people can just ooze around like worms.

[Anonymous No.9956325]

>>9956300
>can't afford a proper espresso machine

[Anonymous No.9956355]

>>9956325

Ok, shitlips, what's a proper espresso machine, a proper espresso extraction? You don't have a fucking clue, do you? You're like talking to a wet dildo, right?

[Anonymous No.9956370]

>>9956355
>cannot into presaturated groupheads or AT LEAST an E-61
>cannot into double boiler or HX
>cannot even into naked portafilter to identify quality and eveness of shot
>talks about proper espresso extraction

you're a caricature

[Anonymous No.9956371]

what segment of the movie does rorschach say "you're locked in here with me"

[Anonymous No.9956376]

>>9956370

the fuck is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.9956385]

>>9956370

The last espresso I had from my machine was deep, rich and not some cunt version of your concern.

Do you understand a rich extraction? Not much caffeine not anything, but it tastes like a lovely, nutty cup.

So you take your shit to some lab and tell them they fucked up.

[Anonymous No.9956398]

>>9956385
>muh subjective opinion
some people are happier riding a rusty bicycle with deflated tyres but that's still not a better vehicle OR a better ride than a Mercedes.

[Anonymous No.9956405]

>>9956398

like a dumb cunt like you knows the difference.

[Anonymous No.9956408]

>>9956405
>ad hominem
Enjoy your shitty coffee, pleb. I bet you don't even grind your own

[Anonymous No.9956418]

>>9956408

You're so fucking stupid. I grind shitty lavazza oros in a smart grinder, that you can't afford. It's still dark, rich and with a high pressure extraction is great. Most of you stupid assholes would use illy or something else. I don't care. You're poverty assholes.

[Anonymous No.9956423]

>>9956418
Good job, you managed to make me angry with the lavazza oros beans part but fortunately I knew you were trolling when you mentioned the smart grinder. I almost fell for that

[Anonymous No.9956425]

I just love watching you people have your shit fit. Watching dirt people freak out is like watching what the next group of green barets are going to have to attack.

[Anonymous No.9956429]

>>9956423

It's a good grinder, you dipshit. it's stainless, but you wouldn't know the difference between that and a ceramic burr grinder.

just so you know. you're a fuck up.

[Anonymous No.9956437]

>>9956429
Wait, you're serious? You really actually bought this heaping pile of shit? Is it because you fancy Heston?

[Anonymous No.9956447]

>>9956437

Don't know that asshole. but you seem to. Go to town fuck up

[Anonymous No.9956452]

>>9956447
Hold up, hold up. You mean you spent $200 on a Sage Smart Grinder? Just clarify this for a moment, please.

[Anonymous No.9956460]

>>9956452

No asshole, it was the Breville Smart Grinder.

[Anonymous No.9956470]

>>9956460
Same shit. I think any credibility you had in this thread is lost. Go home and come back when you've got rid of your junk and have a Mazzer, Macap or Anfim. I won't even ask what your machine is because I'll get depressed.

[Anonymous No.9956475]

>>9956470

at least you can suffer in your depression in quiet. enjoy.

[Anonymous No.9956484]

>he spent $200 on a grinder
are you mentally retarded

[Anonymous No.9956485]

>>9956475
At least I have ACTUAL espresso to console me.

[Anonymous No.9956501]

>>9956484
No, no. Not only did he spend $200 on a grinder, he spent it on a "smart" grinder by Breville - also known for their toast makers.

[Anonymous No.9956515]

What french press would you recommend for a newbie?

[Anonymous No.9956522]

>>9956515
They're all good, but whatever you do - don't spend $200 on a pretend grinder made by a toast-oven company.

[Anonymous No.9956534]

>>9956522
>taking passive aggressive potshots at another anon in a reply to a completely unrelated post
way to take the high road lol

[Anonymous No.9956541]

>>9956522
Are hand grinders a meme?

[Anonymous No.9956556]

>>9956541
Anything up to the $20 mark will serve you just fine, aim for a brand-name like Hario or Porlex but you can get away with a slightly cheaper knock-off.

$200 hand-grinders (yes they exist) are most definitely a meme though - just like the Brevile Smart Grinder is

[Anonymous No.9956562]

>>9956541
Oh but remember they're not for espresso. They're a perfect cheap and portable solution for pour-over coffee though.

[Anonymous No.9956575]

[Anonymous No.9956638]

>>9956541
It takes 3 minutes to grind enough coffee for a single cup, so yes.

[Anonymous No.9956669]

>>9956556
I got heavily berated in a previous thread by an anon who seemed to know his shit for owning a hario skerton and thinking it was decent. Apparently that's not the case.

[Anonymous No.9956722]

>>9956669
It's perfectly acceptable for Moka Pot, Pourover, even Cold Brew and you need to keep in mind that the next "decent" grinder is (at best) a used MC2 for about $70 which the Hario is less than half price. So it ultimately depends on your budget

[Anonymous No.9956727]

>>9956669
Probably by the same anon you're responding to who seems to be saying that sub$20 hand grinders are good but a breville smart grinder is bad.

[Anonymous No.9956729]

>>9956727
Yes, because the Breville costs literally 10x as much, for which price you can get a REAL commercial grinder. It's all relative, guy.

Now get over the fact that you got ripped off and stop being sour.

[Anonymous No.9956749]

>>9956729
>It's all relative, guy.
It's all about the coffee, ""guy"".
And I'm not that anon with the Breville. I've got Anfim KS (doserless).

>>9956669
If you enjoy the coffee that you're making with your Skerton then it doesn't matter what other people think. Least not anonymous strangers who will never sample your coffee.

[Anonymous No.9956754]

>>9956669
I got meme'd, I have a skerton pro in shipment

[Anonymous No.9956763]

>>9955577
Why do they always have the wood collar and the gay leather tie with beads?

[Anonymous No.9956768]

>>9956669
Hairo aren't bad (any of them), but never underestimate the power of the sperg on 4chan. There's certainly better to be had, but if you're happy with it, keep using it. They're good for the price. If you are going for espresso, I can understand why someone would sperg, though.

[Anonymous No.9956771]

>>9956763
it's that handmade village feel, yo

[Anonymous No.9956777]

>>9956749
Yes and the best homemade coffee that someone with a sub $50 budget for a grinder can get is with a cheap but good hand-grinder like the Hario or the Porlex (I prefer the latter).

[Anonymous No.9956793]

>>9956754
I have a skerreton underneath by skin

[Anonymous No.9956823]

>>9956485

You have actual depression. Your bean cutter can't help you with that.

[Anonymous No.9956982]

>>9955608
Wrong. 212 is pretty much ideal for brewed coffee. Look into the works of Scott Rao and Matt Perger for more details. Boiling is ideal. Most people use water too cool and end up with underextracted coffee.

>>9955625
Get a Fellow Stagg EKG
But don't use 192, it's way too cold.

>>9955757
e61 is trash. Still less trash than what that idiot has, but trash. Only saturated group (or pid heated group) machines are worth anything at all.

>>9956272
Breville portafilter baskets are shit. Use VST, IMS, or Pullman baskets.

>>9955760
Grind consistency matters with all methods. That being said, cheap hand burr grinders are utter trash too. Aergrind is the cheapest grinder better than getting it ground when you buy it.

>>9956071
Nigga I use a scoop to put the beans in the glass for weighing before I grind them.

>>9956089
Scoops are more useful for dosing *into* the grinder. Output should always just be the exact amount you need.

>>9956100
Nah. Some of the best espresso grinders, like the EK43, don't have portafilter forks.

>>9956325
Most people can't. No shame in that.

>>9956370
>hx
>proper
Pick exactly one.

>>9956429
There are NO good ceramic burr grinders.

>>9956470
Mazzer, Macap, and Anfim are all hot garbage. (especially Mazzer, whd make bad grind distribution on purpose to appease Italian crema-chasers) The only good grinders are the Monolith Flat, EK43, EG-1, or Compak R120. Or a couple other more niche unimodal flat burr grinders. Titus's new grinder will probably be good too, but his current model is trash.

>>9956515
Espro travel press

>>9956556
Exact other way around. The $200 ones still aren't *good* (only large flat burrs are good), but they're passable. The $20 ones belong in the trash.

[Anonymous No.9956989]

Have any of you assholes watched Charlie Wilson's War?

[Anonymous No.9957348]

>>9956484
>>9956501
If you are talking about OP, that grinder is by Baratza and I got it as a gift, so meh. It works for me.

[Anonymous No.9957570]

hit me with a method for pic related

[Anonymous No.9957573]

Thoughts on minipresso?

[Anonymous No.9957777]

My sister bought me a nespresso machine this christmas and after tasting some coffee I can say that I'm impressed by both the coffee and how the machine itself brews it

[Anonymous No.9957811]

>>9956272
the pic in question wasn't a brevile portafilter. it was a delonghi portafilter, likely from a dedica. and the breville portafilter in your image is an AFTERMARKET portafilter. which you'll have to pay $40 for if you want to get non-shit coffee from your cheap as shit LOL 15 bar joke of a machine. you fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.9957884]

Someone gave this to me. Will this actually keep my beans fresh? Just getting into whole beans and noticed an off flavor in what I used after about a week in.

[Anonymous No.9957894]

>>9957884
No, those 1k+ positive reviews are most likely russian bots. Airtight containers that block out the sun don't really keep the beans fresh anyway. The traditional way to store your coffee beans is to just dump them out on a counter near a window.

[Anonymous No.9957902]

>>9957884
>1628 reviews
>more reviews than some of the most popular brands of headphones or extremely common power tools
yes I'm sure some kickstarter garbage is really that popular

[Anonymous No.9957930]

I used to be like the autists in this thread. I bought a grinder and a French press and I spend ten minutes every day making my coffee.

Then I realised how much of a waste of time it is. Now i just drink nespresso capsules now and the difference is minimal. If you're a newbie browsing this thread right now,don't fucking bother. None of this is worth your time or money. As long as you're not drinking instant coffee you will hardly notice a difference.

[Anonymous No.9958018]

I dislike French presses, they are annoying to clean. So I changed to single cup pour over, much quicker and the cleanup is easy.

[Anonymous No.9958331]

>>9958018
>french press
>annoying to clean
>partially unscrew the mesh
>rinse off the plunger
>rinse out the jar
>tighten mesh
oh shit so annoying to clean literally shaking at how annoying it is

[Anonymous No.9958666]

>>9956022
You can see his tamp on right right you idiot

[Anonymous No.9958674]

>>9958331
>do all that
or
>take filter and throw it

[Anonymous No.9958695]

>>9958674
>being such an impatient child that 30 seconds of rinsing constitutes "annoying"

[Anonymous No.9958708]

>>9958695
>being inefficient

[Anonymous No.9958727]

>>9958708
stop backpedalling
there is nothing annoying about cleaning a french press unless you literally have ADD

[Anonymous No.9958764]

>>9958727
It is more annoying because I'm not just going to rinse all those grounds down my sink. The plumbing can't take it.
So yes a filtered pour over is much more efficient for my day.
Less mess is better for me while still letting me have a lot of control over my process.

[Anonymous No.9958790]

>ctrl+f
>"turkish"
>phrase not found
>"sand"
>phrase not found
watrucasul? bunch of virgins with their french presses and drip grind shit.

[Anonymous No.9958822]

>>9958790
post photos of your home turkish coffee setup

[Anonymous No.9958838]

>>9957884
don't put super fresh beans in there. let the beans sit in their venting bag for the recommended resting period before opening the bag, and then put them in your air tight container. and in the case of pic related (or similarly a glass mason jar) be sure to open it at least once a day to vent the CO2. super fresh beans will vent CO2 more rapidly, and if you confine beans in a tight container without means to vent the CO2 that will accelerate their aging. that's why i personally prefer a self venting bean container like coffeevac.

[Anonymous No.9958927]

>>9958790
>>9957570

[Anonymous No.9959028]

I'm moving out soon and have been spoiled with parents coffee machine my whole life.

What's the cheapest way of getting fresh coffee? Like freshly grinded beans.
Don't want to be grinding them myself every morning since I'm used to just pushing a button. Don't wanna spend more than 200$.
Should I just be looking for chinkshit?

[Anonymous No.9959030]

>>9958790
>>9958822
I regret promoting the turk, but this time he has made something pretty good.

[Anonymous No.9959036]

>>9959030
>no sand
fagit

[Anonymous No.9959083]

>>9959028
The freshest coffee you get will be freshly ground right before brewing. If you don't have the time or can't be bothered with that, your options are severely limited. Preground coffee won't ever be as good as freshly ground, but all snobbery aside, some of them can be half decent and as long as you enjoy the coffee you're making it doesn't matter what you brew or how.

Buy yourself a pourover cone, a single cup french press or an aeropress and a bag of something you like the sound of and you're good to go. If you really want something approaching a good cup of coffee, buy a bag of beans, a budget burr grinder like a hario skerton and look up how to adjust it to the grind you'll need for your brewing method. You'll never get the best out of your coffee without freshly grinding it.
The skerton isn't a great grinder and has a tendency to be inconsistent with its grind quality, but it's better than virtually any other grinder in its price range and the next step up from it is more than double the price.

[Anonymous No.9959093]

Anyone ever try this New Mexico Pinon coffee?
I can only get it pre-ground here unless I go buy a Costo card.

One of my favorite coffees.

[Anonymous No.9959884]

>>9958790
I just make my Turkish over a propane stove. I really need to get a sand bowl.

I don't do it often, I'm more into espresso and drip, but I like to make a Turkish pot or two for every bag.

[Anonymous No.9959958]

How many coffees do you lot have a day? Is more than 3 excessive?

[Anonymous No.9959978]

>>9959958
One 12oz mug

[Anonymous No.9960043]

What is cheapest grinder for coffee that produces a quality grind? Hand, burr, blade? Just need some recommendations. Will be using French Press

[Anonymous No.9960049]

>>9960043
Baratza Encore

Technically a brand new Hario Skerton in absolutely perfect condition, with the bushing upgrade kit, will be slightly less shitty than buying pre-ground stale beans, but at the expense of a lot of annoyance

[Anonymous No.9960057]

>>9960043
A Hario skerton is usually the go to cheap grinder

[Anonymous No.9960069]

>tfw get home at 7pm

Too late to make coffee?

[Anonymous No.9960082]

>>9960069
Depends on if it will keep you up

[Anonymous No.9960122]

>>9960049
What's the annoyance? Working a handle for a minute?

[Anonymous No.9960140]

>>9960122
I tell your mom this all the time, but she still won't give me handies in the Uber

[Anonymous No.9960142]

>>9960122
There's that, sure. It usually clocks in at closer to 2 minutes unless you're going super coarse or are treating it as your warmup for interval training.

I did it for a year, it got old after the first month.

Then there's the fact that it can't stay calibrated worth a shit, and the burrs themselves wear out, and no matter how autistically you add 3d printed custom bushings and fiddle with the tension and hold it against a countertop or whatever, the particle size distribution rivals the ziploc bag and a hammer method after six months of drinking several cups a day.

[Anonymous No.9960155]

Is there a good website to add, share, and run coffee recipes (with like a timer)? Always wished this existed... maybe I'll create it myself someday.

[Anonymous No.9960166]

>>9960142
The quality issue I can understand, but I actually enjoy using my manual grinder. I make a single cup every morning though, grind while water boils, no bother.

[Anonymous No.9960171]

>>9960166
I looked at getting a Pharos or something, but I have enough autism in my life with my open sores operating system and my straight razors and shit

I'm happy with my Baratza

[Anonymous No.9960187]

Is it worth getting a espresso machine if I have a Baratza Virtuoso grinder? Also best espresso machine in the $300-500 range? I want to make myself Americanos.

[Anonymous No.9960243]

>>9959083
I meant is there a cheap machine that will just grind the beans for me and make coffee like I have in pic related? Fresh black coffee with the push of a button is the norm for me and I obv don't wanna downgrade my morning coffee. I've just had it too good u guess.

Anyone got experience with chinkshit coffee machines?

[Anonymous No.9960261]

>>9960243
Good i guess* also dw the beans are not getting dusty, I just took the lid off lel

[Anonymous No.9960265]

>>9960243
Don't buy any food related chinkshit. Is it your first day on /csg/ or what

[Anonymous No.9960280]

Been using a french press lately and would like to up my game slightly. Just starting out so bear with me:

How is pic related versus a V60? The french press I have is pretty basic and too big for me, so maybe just going with a v60 to make smaller amounts is a good idea?

Grinder wise the Skerton keeps getting mentioned, so maybe I will pick up one of those as well instead of buying my pre ground shit

[Anonymous No.9960293]

>>9960265
I've never really bought any chinkshit besides stickers and other nipshit, so I have no idea. I don't even browse /csg/ lol. Ty tho

[Anonymous No.9960468]

>>9959958
4-5 shots of espresso and one brew as of recently

[Anonymous No.9960474]

>>9960043
Aergrind. Anything cheaper (like >>9960057 ) and you're better off getting it ground at the roaster.

>>9960122
It's not just annoying, the grind quality is utter trash.

[Anonymous No.9960476]

>>9960280
V60 should be fine - never tried what is on your picture. You could also try an Aeropress or Moka Pot.

[Anonymous No.9960477]

>>9960187
No. The Virtuoso is not good enough. And there are no good espresso machines under about $1k.

[Anonymous No.9960501]

>>9960187
Go used. Look on ebay/craiglist/gumtree etc.

[Anonymous No.9960584]

>>9959958
>Is more than 3 excessive?
Coffee is sex. So no.

Personally I have 4 - 6 shots every day. Sometimes 8 but I don't touch any other source of caffein.

[Anonymous No.9961715]

Anyone ever use a Mr coffee Burr Mill grinder? Looks decent and a good price for me.

[Anonymous No.9962097]

How do I make coffee in a pre-electronics way while keeping all the flavour, new coffee goer though, previously boozeman

[Anonymous No.9962270]

would it be wise to grind up a day's worth of beans so I don't have to grind for every cup (maybe like 8 cups a day)

[Anonymous No.9962366]

>>9960187
>best espresso machine in the $300-500 range?
>I want to make myself Americanos.
i see what you did there

[Anonymous No.9962392]

>>9962366
explain

[Anonymous No.9962398]

>>9962270
Not ideal because ground coffee goes stale very quickly and if you have access to a grinder close to where you're brewing then it makes better sense to grind as you brew.
But if you're talking about having it ground at a store and then taking that ground coffee home then that might the the wisest choice for convenience and practicality.
Then again, if you're only using a french press then you probably won't notice the difference between freshly ground and stale ground because a french press can't extract the best out of the grounds. Unlike a moka pot or espresso machine.

[Anonymous No.9962406]

>>9958790
I have never once succeeded in making decent turkish coffee despite attempting three different methods. There's never enough Crema.

[Anonymous No.9962444]

>>9962392
secret barista business. sorry.

>>9962406
Maybe your grind isn't fine enough? Turkish requires the finest of fine grinds. It's almost like powder, and a lot of grinders can't get that fine.

[Anonymous No.9962930]

What do you guys recommend for a student? Should I get a Burr grinder or something? I mostly drink Black coffee

[Anonymous No.9962949]

>>9955577
i dunno, i really like coffee but i never felt need to get anything more complicated then french press. Grind coffee, pour water, press. Done a tastes great. No mess with filters. And time to time I have something fancy in cafe.

[Anonymous No.9962970]

What do you guys think of Nescafé Gold Blend?

[Anonymous No.9963229]

>>9962970
why did you go out of your way to add the diacratic?

[Anonymous No.9963239]

>tfw cute guy in class came in with a Dunkin Donuts cup today
is it wrong that this just completely turned me off? how can you drink that trash

[Anonymous No.9963244]

>>9963239
>paying any attention to what people wear
this is such a feminine personality trait holy shit

[Anonymous No.9963249]

>>9963229
Because I'm a huuuuge faggot and a fucking foodie.

[Anonymous No.9963259]

>>9963229
Because that's how it's written?

[Anonymous No.9963274]

>>9963249
You're not the one who wrote >>9962970, I should know because that was me. Not arguing your claim that you are a faggot though.

[Anonymous No.9963277]

>>9963274
You're not the one who wrote >>9962970, I should know because that was me. Not arguing your claim that you are a faggot though.

[Anonymous No.9963412]

Is it retarded to make regular coffee elaborate, with a foam milk head, sugar and in a latte glass etc?

I love the sight and taste of cappuchinos and lattes but I found out they're all actually made with espresso and I can't be bothered to into a whole machine. So I just use coffee.

[Anonymous No.9963430]

>>9962930
>asking /ck/ for help
more useless then /v/

[Anonymous No.9963475]

>>9962930
>>9963430
https://www.reddit.com/r/coffee/wiki

[Anonymous No.9963499]

>>9962930
Depends on what you have access to. If no hotplates get an electric kettle. I personally recommend a French press, but an aero press it cone is also an option if you only want a cup or so at a time.

If you can use a hot plate a traditional drip machine is fine for making lots of coffee. Do try to get fresh beans though, they make a world of difference.

For a grinder (again depending on how much you need to make)a hand grinder is fine, but a larger electric Burr grinder is needed for making more than 30g of grounds a day.

[Anonymous No.9963505]

>>9963499
>aero press or cone*

[Anonymous No.9963707]

You people make me sick. I'm going to go back and microwave my leftover coffee now. The coffee I made in a $12 drip coffee pot, with unfiltered tap water. At least the beans are fresh ground and it's not Folgers crap.

[Anonymous No.9963787]

>>9963707
k

[Anonymous No.9963800]

>>9963707
ite

[Anonymous No.9964085]

>>9955577
Just add some cardamum pods into your french press and enjoy.

[Anonymous No.9964088]

>>9955577
bump

[Anonymous No.9964118]

>>9964088
Did you really just bump this while it was on the first page

[Anonymous No.9964135]

>>9964118
it was not when i bumped it

[Anonymous No.9964285]

Looking for good price to performance. Capable of modding and maintenance.
Assuming a decent aftermarket PID: should I be leaning towards rancilio silvia or gaggia classic?

Also: what's a good price:performance grinder? anything good that's cheaper than the rancilio?

[Anonymous No.9965561]

>>9962398
what about pour over? yeah I bought a hario grinder and have the pour over kettle, cup and funnel.

[Anonymous No.9965784]

>>9965561
If you're asking me then the OCD perfectionist barista in me will scream "GRIND AS YOU BREW" every time, but in reality you probably won't notice much difference in taste whether you grind as you go or grind a few hours in advance if you're brewing by any method other than turkish or espresso. Though you should keep the grind in a coolish dark place (but not in the fridge).
You'd also increase the risk of waste if you grind in advance, if you don't use all of it. Plus it may have an influence on your dosage as you try to use the last of it and overdose the device (which is important for moka pots but not so much for pour over). But that's my OCD talking again. Sorry.

>tldr; meh, couldn't hurt (much). but not strictly ideal.

[Anonymous No.9965945]

>>9965784
yeah, cheers cunt for all the advice. I'll just experiment and see how I go.

legit, thanks.

[Anonymous No.9965951]

>>9955577
Would you or someone else show me a photo of what the drip aperture on the inside of the cone looks like on these things?

[Anonymous No.9966037]

>>9965951
The flow is basically only restricted by the filter (and your pour, I guess)

[Anonymous No.9966539]

>>9955646
>Death wish
It's not very flavorful, but it does have more caffiene. I still drank the same relative amount, but I thought all in all it was a gimmicky waste with neat packaging.

[Anonymous No.9966595]

>>9962444
>secret
People who get Americanos are cheap? That's not a hard one to figure out

[Anonymous No.9966749]

>>9955616
>hello fellow /g/ crossposter

Come on man this is a cooking thread not a pervert thread, keep that stuff in /b/ or /r9k/, telling people you like to wear women's clothing doesn't belong in a food thread, thanks.

[Anonymous No.9966836]

>>9966595
>people who get americanos are cheap
how

[Anonymous No.9966844]

>>9966749
I'm sure that was absolutely hilarious in your head.

[Anonymous No.9967161]

>>9966037
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.9968116]

So for everyone asking about manual grinders, seriously consider the kuissential evengrind. I was going to do a comparison pic of its grind vs my handground, but I dropped the hg and broke the hopper.

Anyway, I set the adjustment 2 turns out and it's very good for french press. I had to sift my grinds with the handground or I'd get an awfully overextracted cup. Haven't tried a finer grind with it, though.

[Anonymous No.9968200]

>>9968116
Try a finer grind, closer to drip, and you'll likely get better consistency. Just drop your brew time down to ~3 minutes

[Anonymous No.9968728]

>>9968200
The evengrind has good conistency at coarser settings. I barely get any fines in my mug with it, but used to would end up with sludge if I didn't sift. I have found that finer grinds tend to be more consistent overall, so I'll try that as well just to see.

[Anonymous No.9968828]

I want to gift away some coffee beans. Should I get a bunch of pure bean selections or a few different blends? Is pure and unblended coffee drunk normally or does it taste too specific?

[Anonymous No.9969188]

>>9968828
Coffee is undergoing the same phase as whisky right now, in that single origin is all the rage. I'd gift single-origin coffees as giving someone coffee from Guatemala or Ethiopia will sound quite cool to them and will certainly not disappoint them in terms of taste and quality. The same isn't true with a good blend in which case they have only the roaster's/blender's name to go on (since they most probably won't know them). It may well be just as good in terms of quality or flavour but won't have that "wow" factor. Buy a good blend for yourself though, by all means - there is a lot to be appreciated when it comes to the skill of blending anything (whisky, coffee, wine etc.). When it's done to create a new flavour and not mask bad quality, it's an excellent demonstration of the palate and knowledge of someone very skilled (the blender).

[Anonymous No.9969332]

>>9969188
>the blender
That's what I call your mom

[Anonymous No.9969488]

>>9969332

[Anonymous No.9969498]

>>9969188
Thanks

[Anonymous No.9969627]

What can I add to coffee to make it like the opposite of sweet? Not sure how to describe it, like more robust or coffee-er. Everything I read says to add cream or milk or sugar or fucking ice cream. I want to take it in the other direction.

[Anonymous No.9969650]

>>9969627
More coffee. 1:12

[Anonymous No.9969663]

>>9969627
you're asking for coffee made with cocoa beans actually

[Anonymous No.9970215]

m'lady

[Anonymous No.9970282]

Aero or french press?

[Anonymous No.9970288]

>>9970282
Do you want more than a 6oz cup at a time?

[Anonymous No.9970301]

>>9970288
Yes

[Anonymous No.9970306]

>>9970301
Then French press it is. Bodum is the standard brand

[Anonymous No.9970330]

>>9970306
Aren't there some aeropresses with 2-3 cup capacity?

[Anonymous No.9970761]

>>9970215
>buzzwords like fair trade and organic that hurt small farms by being too cost prohibitive to gain certification in
>any roast past nordic light
>shit roaster

Kalita wave is good, tho

[Anonymous No.9970999]

>>9970761
>shit roaster
Any particular reason you believe this? I've had way worse beans from the coveted local roasters

[Anonymous No.9971559]

Why is it that coffee goes so well with spicy food?

[Anonymous No.9971690]

>>9956727
Rubbish.

Breville Smart Grinder costs $200 on special. The breville infuser machine costs around $300 on special.

All together it makes a perfectly good espresso, costs less, and is nuch less autistic, than spending over $1000 on a "decent" Grinder, and another $1500 on a "decent" Machine.

Yet at the same time you'll sit around and jerk off about a $20 French press or pour over.

Breville is fine for their price point. Their toasters are also fine.

[Anonymous No.9971776]

>>9971690

That's nice, dear.

[Anonymous No.9972013]

>>9971690
Except some of us bought used, and got twice as good gear for half the money than you and your toaster brand.

[Anonymous No.9972029]

>>9970999
Local roasters are often shit too.

Order from Tim Wendelboe or George Howell. Compare everything to those two and don't buy from anyone who can't equal them.

[Anonymous No.9972109]

>>9971559
not that there is a wrong preference but I find it unusual to enjoy coffee with food

[Anonymous No.9972198]

>>9972013

Its not a competition, enjoy your autism.

[Anonymous No.9972204]

>>9972013
You got a top machine and Grinder for less than $500?

[Anonymous No.9972290]

>>9972204
Gaggia Classic for $50, Eureka MDMCA 65mm for $70 + a new set of burrs took me to $100. Total $150.

Now we can have a debate over which one is better, the Breville or the Gaggia but let's just say the Breville is slightly better due to its bells and whistles (even though I prefer the Gaggia's, build quality, serviceability and how easy it is to customise not to mention the vast amount of info and parts available online). That pressure gauge and pre-infusion are not worth $155 extra, which is their price difference.

[Anonymous No.9972300]

>>9972204
This ad is currently listed for $650 and they're both actual professional machines.

[Anonymous No.9972307]

>>9972204
This Astoria is listed for $470 and with another $100 you can get a used Mazzer Super Jolly if you wait till the right one pops up - $150 if you're impatient.

[Anonymous No.9972333]

>>9972300
>>9972307

They look pretty decent.

I had a look around but couldn't find much in the way of used machines when I was buying. It was all second hand breville/delonghi.

I had the delonghi dedica for a while but upgraded to the Breville (much better machine IMO)

I live in New Zealand so maybe that's a factor

[Anonymous No.9972353]

A note about used grinders: Sometimes people attempt to grind things that they shouldn't which destroys the device. Things like nuts and seeds and even coconut shells. The burrs are easy enough to replace when worn but if the spindle is off center then the grinder is ruined because it's too costly to repair.
I'm not saying that is always the case. But buyer beware.

[Anonymous No.9972376]

>>9972333
The Breville is indeed an upgrade from the Dedica. Maybe you could look on the Australian market? They're full of both normal and third-wave coffee-shops, espresso hipsters and Italians so it's bound to have a lot of great second-hand gear on the market. NZ seems like it would be far too limited in choice.

[Anonymous No.9972380]

>>9972353
How can you tell if the spindle is off centre? I have a suspicion mine might be, just by looking at it when it works but unsure how to confirm.

[Anonymous No.9972407]

>>9972376
The Dedica was a good introductory machine for pressurised shots. Great to pass on to my dad who doesn't know how to use a TV remote anymore and can't tell the difference between a good cup of coffee and a shit one.

I had the Dedica Grinder briefly too, and that was actually useless for anything finer than a pressurised filter.

When I upgraded to the Breville infuser, I was able to get a full refund on the Dedica Grinder (despite using it for 5 months) because it couldn't grind fine enough for a non pressurized machine. And funnily enough the smart grinder was in the same price range so I picked one up from the same store.

[Anonymous No.9972427]

>>9972407
Have you thought of getting your father a bean to cup machine, obviously I'm talking about a used one? You can find Juras for as low as AU$350 but I don't know what your budget is.

[Anonymous No.9972428]

This Yemenese "Al-Durrar" coffee from Port of Mokha is the best coffee I've ever brewed. Problem is it's fucking $12/oz.

http://www.portofmokha.com/product/9559560518

[Anonymous No.9972429]

>>9972407
Good job on getting a refund by the way, so is the Breville grinder better than the Dedica?

[Anonymous No.9972435]

>>9972428
Awesome packaging and branding but obscene price. A huge percentage of the latter pays for the former, I'm sure.

[Anonymous No.9972439]

>>9972353
I have no problem buying a used machine but for some reason a used grinder bothers me

[Anonymous No.9972456]

>>9972429
The Breville can actually grind fine enough to use with a pressurised basket.

I tries using the Dedica Grinder with the brevile infuser and you could not get enough pressure to pull a decent shot. Of course if you used the pressurised basket you could pull a decent shot.

So after explaining to the store that the Dedica Grinder couldn't actually grind fine enough espresso they were happy to refund me.

By comparison, the brevile Grinder I have now is set on 26, and can go a lot finer if necessary.

Both machines are kind of bad for grinding straight to the portafilter without Making a mess or wasting coffee. I tend to grind into a container first and go from there

[Anonymous No.9972458]

>>9972435
If you have the disposable income, you really should try this Al-Durrar one. I completely agree that the price is obscene, which is how you know I am not a shill for their brand. I bought the trio box and while they were all great, this Al-Durrar in particular was fantastic. No bitterness in sight, I really mean that. And I use 23 g of coffee to 300 g water in a V60 (really should be 400, but my thermos is very small), meaning that I'm drinking a rather concentrated brew.

I am now in search of a comparable coffee at a non-obscene price. I buy single origin coffee all the time, but holy shit, this was exceptional.

[Anonymous No.9972465]

>>9972456
*Breville Grinder can be used with a non pressurized basket

[Anonymous No.9972500]

>>9972439
Commercial grinders are extremely easy to disassemble and clean and a set of burrs is all you really need to every change on them. I'd be way more apprehensive about an espresso machine as you never really know if the owner descaled, what water they used etc and you can't see the interior of the boiler until it's too late (happened to me with the first Gaggia I bought).

[Anonymous No.9972507]

>>9972458
This is the "rarest" and certainly the most expensive coffee I've tried (not from this particular roaster but my actual one doesn't stock it anymore). Tremendous coffee and cool origin

https://www.hrhiggins.co.uk/product/coffees/galapagos-san-cristobal/

[Anonymous No.9972533]

>>9972500
True as well. Just worried that there's a chance the burrs or motor got fucked with improper use although I suppose that's less likely with the pricepoint, userbase, and quality of the motor.

I suppose it's true that a lot of things can go wrong with the espresso machine as well. While not guaranteed, if you keep your eye open and ask you can often pick apart machines that have been properly taken care of compared to machines that have had a long miserable service life. Still a gamble but better than the inflated and controlled MSRP. Patience helps.
Currently after a decent condition Silvia. Looking forward to the PID modification as well. Will be pairing it with a new sette 30 AP. Just getting started with all this

[Anonymous No.9972538]

>>9972380
I dunno. I don't fix em, I break em. I'd imagine that if you could get a bit of paper or a business card between the burrs then you might figure something out. Though if I were you I wouldn't want to know unless you can get a refund. I mean if it works, and all..

>>9972439
Same. With grinders the whole device is dependant on that one crucial thing; Parallel burrs. If that's screwed then the device is screwed. But with an espresso machine there are huge number of parts that come together to make the device work and they can all be replaced. I mean, you don't discard a car if the door handle falls off. You just replace the door handle. If that makes sense.

>>9972500
All commercial machines and high end domestic machines have a filter and water softener so the water going into the machine would effectively be identical. Descaling is easy too.

[Anonymous No.9972555]

>>9972500
>can't see the interior of the boiler until it's too late (happened to me with the first Gaggia I bought).
??
Explain, please. Was it a brass boiler?

[Anonymous No.9972570]

As someone that's getting started with all this I'm trying to quantify the possible points of failure in "starter" type espresso machines (Gaggia or Silvia):
I like the fact that the popularity of these creates a good market for parts and mods.
What I'm wondering is:
What's the worst that could happen with buildup and is all buildup undoable?
What's the expected life of a boiler assuming proper maintenance?
Are there any problems that would make a machine unsalvageable?

[Anonymous No.9972644]

it's folgers coffee in a 10 year old 30$ coffee machine or nothing.
i've drank it that way since i was 12.

[Anonymous No.9973001]

>>9972029
>Tim Wendelboe
I checked it out and it's $40/lb. Maybe if Tim came over and blew me, I would consider that

[Anonymous No.9973004]

>>9972644
Literal manchild

[Anonymous No.9973007]

You giant bag of assholes should grind this bean in your shitty machine, then brew it in your shitty machine.

[Anonymous No.9973279]

>>9956006
I completely agree, I work in a specialty coffee shop and we took ours out of the menu because people wouldnt order it as much and it brews mediocre tasting coffee, it was there only to impress atupid people who would post it on instagram.

[Anonymous No.9974352]

>>9972533
I got tricked into buying pic-related as the seller claimed to have been the technician responsible for its maintenance. I got it for a tremendous price ($80) and it works but most of the insides are grimy and rusted. Nothing that can't be disassembled and cleaned but the thing is so manky that it won't come apart and probably need to apply some sort of solution to destroy the rust and coffee build-up that's doing that. So basically unless you see something in person and see it work don't buy.

I wish you godspeed with the Silvia. I've always wanted one but it's too close to the Gaggia to bother with selling it to buy one. I'm either going to go full-custom on the Gaggia or save up and buy something like that Rancilio I posted earlier.

Are you any good with Raspberry Pi/Arduino stuff? There are some reaaaally neat projects for both the Silvia and the Classic.

[Anonymous No.9974368]

>>9972555
No it was the standard Gaggia Classic boiler but the guy who I bought it off lived in the motherfucking pinkest area of this map and never bothered to descale. You can imagine the amount of scale build-up I found in the machine, but more importantly the walls of the boiler had began to erode. Still usable but not nice and I'm not sure if it's still food safe as I imagine the corroded parts are not anodized anymore.

[Anonymous No.9974374]

>>9974368
Forgot my map

[Anonymous No.9974391]

>>9972570
>What's the worst that could happen with buildup and is all buildup undoable?
Well, with my first used Classic, I initially tried descaling it the normal way without disassembling it and due to the crazy amount of buildup in the machine whole bits got dislodged and ended up blocking the three-way solenoid valve which I had to replace (not super expensive). So basically you should look at the diagram of the machine your buying and see what is "downstream" from the boiler to see where scale could end up. The best thing to do is disassemble it the moment you get it and soak everything in descaling solution.

>Are there any problems that would make a machine unsalvageable?
No because like >>9972538 everything is replaceable. However there does come a point when it may not make sense financially to replace the parts if their total cost is more than that of a used working machine. One such example is the boiler on a Classic ($80 on my local online store), which costs more or less the price of a used Classic (between $50-$120 where I live).

[Anonymous No.9975280]

>>9973279
interesting that whoever was running the joint didn't think there was marketing value enough to keep it running

[Anonymous No.9975307]

>>9974352
>So basically unless you see something in person and see it work don't buy.
Yeah, I know this is good advice yet I will choose likely ignore it since it requires patience to get one locally.
>Are you any good with Raspberry Pi/Arduino stuff?
Yes, that's what I plan on doing (assuming I don't get a silvia with an aftermarket PID already attached). I will definitely do a good online writeup if I end up doing a DIY PID solution just for the sake of sharing everything I learned so far.

[Anonymous No.9975316]

>>9974374
huh, always makes me wonder why people can't be bothered to use filtered or bottled water for fancier machines and beverages

[Anonymous No.9975338]

>>9974391
This is wonderful advice, thank you. Going to follow your steps should I need to.
>owever there does come a point when it may not make sense financially to replace the
yeah, that's what I'm most worried about but
fortunately problems of that size are difficult to overlook or get away with lying about.
I don't want to be replacing a boiler that is a good percentage cost of the entire unit

[Anonymous No.9975428]

>>9969627
So...bitter coffee?

- Buy pre-ground coffee (preferrably vietnamese robusta beans)
- Open the bag and let it be exposed to the surrounding air for a few days
- Filter it in whichever way you want (phin filter, french press, pourover etc) using 100C/212F water
- Wait until it's at drinking temperature, and enjoy your bitter (i.e. crap) coffee

[Anonymous No.9975596]

>>9969627
type and roast matters

[Anonymous No.9975739]

>>9975307
I routinely ignore my own advice, not out of impatience, but because I often find dirt cheap deals that are far away from my city and travelling there would mitigate any savings I make on the cheap deal. So I end up taking the risk like with that first Gaggia.

This is a nice Raspberry Pi project but based on the Gaggia Classic with some discussion about Silvias in the comment section: http://int03.co.uk/blog/project-coffee-espiresso-machine/

[Anonymous No.9975764]

>>9975338
>I don't want to be replacing a boiler that is a good percentage cost of the entire unit

Unfortunately unless you ask them to pull a shot in front of you (which some sellers offer) you won't have the slightest clue how the machine performs and even that isn't an accurate indicator it would just show you that it works at a decent pressure etc.

What you need to do in advance is check how much it would cost you to replace the most expensive parts that could potentially need replacing (depends on the machine, but parts like the pump shouldn't matter as you'll know if the pump works or not straight away) and then compare it to the minimum and average price of your machine when it's used.

Shops like http://www.theespressoshop.co.uk/ and other websites have extensive and even interactive (clickable) parts diagrams for many machines so that should make your life easy.

[Anonymous No.9975780]

>>9975307
And a Raspberry Pi Silvia project with an iOS app. These projects are really cool and in the end don't cost that much, my only concern with them is making sure all the additional components like the flow-meters, pressure-gauges, pre-heating systems etc are all food-safe.

http://ispresso.net/ispresso-do-it-yourself/

[Anonymous No.9975870]

>>9975739
>at are far away from my city and travelling there would mitigate any savings
Funny you mention it because I was just considering exactly this. An older silvia with a pid is sitting on a local classified but it's at least an hour away.
I've seen projects on using small board computers on the silvia as well. If I'm doing this I'm going to go all out on the customization since it's a pretty fun project. Will buy a controller for the PID that's connected to whatever mainboard I choose. Will also buy a nice enclosure and mount it to the silvia so that it looks like a professional addition not a sloppy wire mess. Also want to add an LED lighting at the bottom for looks.
>>9975780
>king sure all the additional components like the flow-meters, pressure-gauges, pre-heating systems etc are all food-safe.
that's a good point. I was looking at ispresso as well although I would prefer something hardwired because I don't want to be dealing with applications that are not future proof.

[Anonymous No.9975886]

>>9975764
>What you need to do in advance is check how much it would cost you to replace the most expensive parts
Yeah, this is a good idea. That way I know exactly how screwed I can be. At this point my budget and research points towards a modified silvia so I guess I have the advantage of a popular model in terms of parts availability. Thanks for the advice

[Anonymous No.9976189]

>>9975870
>>9975886
Why are you buying a pre-modified one? On the one hand you save some money and effort but on the other, you don't know if the added parts are food-safe or the best you could get (there's a ton of different little components that you can use and often people doing this for the first time get the wrong ones, as evidenced by many of these build blogs/journals) and you also don't get to do it exactly the way you want to. Also, like buying a car - I'd always go for the stock one and tinker it myself just so I have an idea of how much it's been abused etc.

>that's a good point. I was looking at ispresso as well although I would prefer something hardwired because I don't want to be dealing with applications that are not future proof.
I used to be the same and I still sort of like the idea of having the controls in physical form, but on the other I think it's quite neat to have everything in your phone and I like how you're being more efficient since your phone can handle big amounts of processing itself.

This is a good example of how elegant it can be. And it means you don't have to "ruin" your machine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0iCTIJCmbQ

[Anonymous No.9976349]

>>9976189
>Why are you buying a pre-modified one?
the premodified ones I am considering are supposedly aftermarket PID units backed by an actual brand (~250USD for the part from the company that sells them). While I think that's stupidly overpriced compared to what you can do yourself with a bit of time and effort, it's a good deal if it's included in the ~450USD price of a well maintained second hand unit. I wouldn't trust anyone with premodified "homebrew" type because as you said, there is a risk there was something stupid done.
If the unit is well maintained and has a good well known aftermarket PID then imo it's worth it if the price is right. I can put the money I save on the PID project towards some other small mods.

I agree with the convenience of the phone controlled application. It probably wouldn't be too difficult to write something or adapt source code to communicate with whatever is mounted in the machine. This might be autism on my end but there is something off putting about needing my phone to run my machine. I prefer dedicated devices in attached enclosures even though the phone seems convenient and has opportunities for finer tuning and tweaking.

[Anonymous No.9976839]

>>9958790
>>9959030
>>9959884
I'm thinking of buying an ibrik/cezve. What metal/alloy are the best ones made out of? Copper? Brass?

[Anonymous No.9977047]

>>9976839
Get one of the copper ones from Specialty Turkish Coffee if you want a great one, or any copper one off Amazon if you want a kinda crap, but still definitely workable, cheap one.

[Anonymous No.9977055]

>>9955577
>get Brazilian ground coffee
>put into machine
>9 cups, 3 scoops
I drink two cups every morning

[Anonymous No.9979180]

I got this piece of shit motherfucker kalita a few months ago and the little shit clogs all the god damn time. I grind significantly more coarse than my V60 and it still clogs. I use different beans and different methods ranging from pulse to constant pour and it still clogs. I change grind, CLOG, I change temp, CLOG, I do all this bullshit and it fucking clogs.

Fuck this bullshit I'm going back to V60. For reference, I grind with a Baratza Encore

Also, anyone have any good americano recipes to use in a Aeropress?

[Anonymous No.9979288]

>>9979180
Have you made sure the filter paper isn't sticking to the sides?
It needs to keep the 'wave' shape for it to pour smoothly, that was the problem I had for a while.

[Anonymous No.9979328]

>>9956982
>212 is pretty much ideal for brewed coffee
>212 is boiling point of water
stop spouting shit. 205 is the ideal coffee, it gets it hot but doesn't burn it

[Anonymous No.9979505]

>>9979288
yah the filter is fine, its keeping the wave shape

[Anonymous No.9979525]

I want to start making coffee. What french press and grinder are good options to start with?

[Anonymous No.9979951]

>>9979525
Bodum press and a Baratza Encore

[Anonymous No.9980606]

Who /regular guy/ here?

[Anonymous No.9980698]

>>9979180
Try the 4:6 method with it

[Anonymous No.9980716]

>>9979328
Coffee can't be burnt by poured water. Or any water at ambient pressure. The stuff is roasted around 400 degrees. Besides, 205 is the ideal *bed* temperature for coffee. Which is achieved by pouring 212 water, which cools when mixing with the room temperature (or very slightly warmer from grinding) coffee.

205 would be a good temperature for an actively heated device, sort of like what Boxcar Coffee uses in their (sorta gimmicky) boiling, but at high elevation, brewing bulbs. I think theirs is actually closer to 200 since the boiling point is super low there.

[Anonymous No.9980734]

>>9980606
bitter is for people that don't know how to brew
light and sweet is for consumers that like to think coffee is watered down sugar water

[Anonymous No.9980746]

Even Perger's coffee compass specifies to never use anything but boiling:

https://baristahustle.com/blogs/barista-hustle/the-coffee-compass

Scott Rao also talks about always using boiling in some videos.

These two are easily two of the most knowledgeable people in specialty coffee today.

Anything with a lower temperature is based on a senseless old myth.

[Anonymous No.9980946]

ITT: Autistic as fuck coffee bullshit

[Anonymous No.9980955]

>>9980946
Thanks, Sherlock

[Anonymous No.9981547]

>>9955687
>not having the professionals grind it for you so you know you're getting the perfect consistency every time.

[Anonymous No.9981591]

Saw this ad on the telly the other day, made me laugh and cringe at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USSddxZFFk4

[Anonymous No.9981769]

>>9981591
saved

[Anonymous No.9981777]

>>9956982
Please stop quoting more than 3 people in each post.

[Anonymous No.9981798]

office coffee making question -- a lot of my coworkers use an aeropress at work. they just get hot water from the water cooler/heater thing. I am worried it's not hot enough to brew properly. does anyone know how hot those water coolers usually get?

[Anonymous No.9982278]

>>9981769
Nice.
Best part of it is that you can pretty much guess how it would taste.

[Anonymous No.9982301]

>>9981777
Here's a quick bit of javascript I wrote to remove the backlinks for a dickhead who does that.

Replace the XXX with the post ID, in this case 9956982 and run it from the developer tools (F12)

var id = "XXX";
var g = document.querySelectorAll('a[href="#p' + id + '"]')
for(var i = 0, m = g.length; i<m;i++) {
g[i].parentNode.removeChild(g[i]);
}

[Anonymous No.9982540]

>>9981798
Go to Wally World and get a thermo meter. I've been meaning to check mine as well for tea at work

[Anonymous No.9982547]

>>9981777
His first reply says to use boiling water. I just stopped there.

>these two guys do it! disregard literally everyone else and even your own taste and experience!
Nice try, Shlomo.

[Anonymous No.9982550]

Is roasting your own coffee beans just a meme or is it worth it?

[Anonymous No.9982580]

>>9982301
>var g =
Stop writing javascript.

[Anonymous No.9983367]

>>9982540
i've got a couple, guess I can bring one in. if all else fails I guess I could microwave the water before pouring it in the aeropress if it's not hot enough