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Me and a friend will be going to Japan for 3-4 days in January for a fighting game tournament and to explore and do fun touristy stuff.

What foods does /ck/ suggest we try? So far we have ramen, tonkatsu, takoyaki, dumplings, sake, getting a fresh fish from the market auction, and tempura. Any obscure local gems /ck/ can think of?

>> No.9844651
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9844651

>>9844643
ye

>> No.9844672

Cunnyade

>> No.9844675

Get raw fish over rice, make sure to pay at least $300

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>>9844643
gorilla curry, mos burger, kobe beef, water mochi etc.

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>>9844675
FUCKING RAW??

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>>9844684
looks good to me...

>> No.9844699

EVO Japan? What games and which chars?

>> No.9844707

>>9844699
Yes
SF and Goobergear

Akuma and Mongogorilla Leo for me
Chunners and Millia for friend

>> No.9844720

>>9844643
i prefer the takoyaki without mayonese desu

>> No.9844728

>>9844684
haha true. OP shiould het lots of cheap tonkatsu and other epic adult foods like japanese fried chicken.

>> No.9844732

>>9844643

Food in Japan is great, its almost difficult to get a bad meal. Cheap too. Try a lot of different things, you've covered a lot of them. If you want to go to the fish auction in Tokyo you have to book in well in advance and stand around in an unheated waiting room with no seats for a couple of hours. You can go to the market after the auction, but they don't much like tourists and the sushi places around it are a bit overpriced (which is rare in Japan) and not really worth the queues, get sushi somewhere else. Even cheap conveyor sushi places will be better than most of what you get outside of Japan. If you want to go to a really good Michelin starred meal it's worthwhile, but you'll have to get your hotel to book you in. It's not food related, but if you have the time and there's a tournament on it's well worth going to see Sumo.

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Okonomiyaki is tasty and fun to make. Yakisoba, too. You can go places where they make it for you, but I think it's fun to do with a friend.

>> No.9844768

>>9844745
This.

Also Coco Ichibanya.

>> No.9844777

Loving the suggestions! Feel free to use the thread as a general jap food thread if you wish. Must sleep now, at 7am.

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tendon

>> No.9844941

>>9844929
Fuck, I love tendon. Oyakodon is really good too.

OP, I'm studying abroad in Japan right now and honestly you just have to bite the bullet and go into stores that look mom-and-pop rather than flashier tourist ones. The food is always amazing there because you can tell the chef really has a passion for whatever they're making. Also, even if they have English menus, do your best to try to read the menus in Japanese. The okonomiyaki place near my dorm has godlike omurice because it's run by an older woman who obviously made it constantly while raising children, but the dish isn't on the English menu so most people don't know about it.

>> No.9844955

>>9844643
> getting a fresh fish from the market auction
Yeah, no dumbass. They only auction whole tuna and as a dirty gaijin you can only watch. Buy some normal fish at the wholesale market if you really want a bunch of unprepared fish, but neither the auction nor the wholesale market are even in Tsujiki anymore. And idk why you'd do that when you can get fresh produce all prepared from one of the cute little tourists restaurants there.

Have some shiokara samples at Tsujiki they're sold in the dried seafood stores and are usually available for sampling. They're amazing little juicy parcels of bless.

Also not obscure but you can get Michelin star ramen at two different places for around 10$, but tastelets like you will probably want chain store ramen (which is also great don't get me wrong) which comes with 5 billion weeb-approved toppings.

>> No.9844960

>>9844732
> but you'll have to get your hotel to book you in.
If it's Michelin ramen you want you just turn up in the morning to reserve a time slot and you're done.

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>>9844941
t. Alyssa Lerner

>> No.9844966

>>9844955
Same anon btw, don't let the sliminess put you off, to really enjoy shiokara you need to take a big spoonful and let it fill your mouth.

>> No.9844973

>>9844955
To be fair friend is korean so he can pass off as a slimy island gook.

>>9844941
Yeah we plan to stray from touristy looking food spots as we know it will be sub par mass produced food for exorbitant prices. I'll add tendon to the list!

>> No.9844980

>>9844963
If trying to avoid tourist shills turns me into a meme from The Onion then so be it.

>> No.9845244

>>9844745
My man.

>> No.9845259

>>9844643
Get some daifuku at a 7/11, and find a bakery to get anpan, melonpan and whatever else looks good. I really miss living there for the awesome bakery.

>> No.9845265

>>9844643
I'd also recommend finding a place to do Yakiniku, which is basically just a table with a large grill, and they bring you high quality cuts of meat to cook on it. Social cooking is a huge part of Japanese culture, and every weekend we would have people over to cook yakisoba or sukiyaki or okonomiyaki or something.

>> No.9845272

>>9844651
>fake tits
Ruined my appetite.

>> No.9845273

>>9845259
Wow. One major disappointment to me in my 10 years there was the averageness of their bakeries. Sure, you might find a few little gems, and I'd still shop there but so happy bakery-wise to be back home living in Aus.

You must have a real sweet tooth anon. Even their savoury dishes at their bakeries are made with sugar in the bread.

>> No.9845283

>>9844973
>implying asians can't tell other asians apart

Japanese are going to be just as xebophobic of your korean friend as they will be of you.

>> No.9845287

>>9845273
Coming from NA I was amazed at all of the high quality french bakeries I found in Japan. I ate a lot of baking when I was there, especially since it makes it easy to pick up a bunch in the morning and take it with you as you tour.

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>>9844707
Good luck fellow Leo bro!

>> No.9845356

Buta Kakuni is amazing and I also recommend trying squid based dishes, as well as Japanese curries. Please try to go to restaurants in rural areas, especially in Kyuushu, Shikoku, and Kansai. They really know how to cook. The best meal I've ever had in my life was in a small town outside of Koshien in Hyogo.

>> No.9845452

>>9845283
He's not wrong. They hate Koreans more than amerifats

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Well what city you are going to would enhance suggestions. Fighting game tourney probably tokyo. If you can find a local person via coach surfing or something they might have sone favourites.

I think a small hole in the wall izakaya would be an interesting experience. Especially if you can find a local to join you. But you dont NEED a translator to have a good time. Just google translate for "what do you recommend?"

My favourite things were monjayaki, soba noodles and curry tonkatsu. Just look up a mark wiens video for a good tonkatsu place and maybe other reviews for the others.

>> No.9845502

>>9844643
they're not called dumplings they're called gyoza
You're not going spend 100,000+ yen on an auction from tsukiji, you probably also won't have anywhere to cook market fish, the super market store sushi is already going to be better than any sushi you've had in the US

Also get okonomiyaki, monjya, yakitori, oyakodon, andonatsu, mos burger, the washoku sandwich from KFC

>> No.9845517

Just go where google suggests. Its all the same shit, despite what these "experts" suggest.

>> No.9845569

>>9845481
to ask ''what do you recommend'', say ''osusume wa nan des ka?''. This is a very common phrase in Japanese culture and people commonly ask this when travelling. It's very comical when Japanese people come overseas and ask for your ''recommendation'' on things like what sports they should play, ski slopes they should visit, or shoes they should buy.

>> No.9845631

>>9845283
I’m a flip and people talked to me in japanese and acted surprised that I’m not. They didn’t do this to my white friend

>> No.9845823

>>9844707
>not signing up for UNIST and giving niggas the chad Gordeau experience

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>>9844643
Taiyaki!!!!

>> No.9845850

>>9845832
Check out this cooking channel. Lots of Japanese food recipes. I am sure you'll find some ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y33iFBt1_PA

>> No.9845921

>>9844643
If you're white hit up a soapland or some enjo kosai, they love white guys.

>> No.9845927

>>9844643
Are you going to EVO?

>> No.9846426

>>9845273
While I would say that the majority of bakeries are sweet like that, which I think is still really worth trying if you're visiting, most I found also had savory stuff like currypan or weinerpan and such. I also had a good french bakery just down the road from me that did regular bread that wasn't sweetened. I got them to make some stuff special for me too, like proper hotdog buns, because I couldn't find those at all. Maybe I just got lucky in my little area of Shiga though.

>> No.9846439

>>9844973
Japan has hated Korea for basically the entire history of it's existence. Some of the first evidence of Japan existing as a nation is from the first time they invaded Korea back in the 500s. Basically at any point in Japanese history, they wanted to invade Korea. Hell, I ran into a play from the 1800s where the protagonists were debating whether Japan should become strong so that they can invade Korea, or if they should invade Korea to become strong.

>> No.9846481

>>9845921
Do not do this. The Yakuza run most of these joints and target foreigners, especially americans. Every single place I went, I was warned that if you are approached by someone and they invite you to spend some quality time with some girls, say no and get the fuck away. If you go with them, you'll have a fun time, drink some drinks, have some girls complement you, and then on your way out, get hit with a bill for about 100,000 yen (About 1k USD). If you don't pay, they will beat the shit out of you and dump you in an alley. If you go to the cops, you will be ignored.

>> No.9846652

>>9845927
Not OP but yes we are

>> No.9846781

>>9844643
green tea ice cream with beans

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nippon here
natty style
authetique !!
top 10 anime foods for gamers

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Great convenience store food can be found at Lawsons/Natural Lawsons(better) in case you don't want to eat out.

>> No.9847130

Eat whale. Think about it, what other chance will you have?

>> No.9847163

>>9844651
Why the fuck do foreigners always say "ye"? "Ye" is an actual word and it does not mean "yes".

>> No.9847193

>>9847163
>foreigners
It's predominately used by native speakers you tit
"ye" is a shortening of "yeah". It comes from actually fucking talking and just quickly uttering a short syllable that people can identify as "yes". Like how a lot of people run the syllables of "I don't know" into this un-enunciated slur of sound, but you still know exactly what they said.

>> No.9847241

>>9844643
Rice burger.

>> No.9847252

>>9846481
If you're not an idiot and actually have conversational Japanese they're totally safe. You just need to do a little research before hand. My favorite activity however has been closed off to non-residents which is fucking annoying, I assume its because of the olympics and Chinese tourists abusing them

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>>9844643

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>>9847193
Fucking British... That entire region is just a toilet.

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>>9844643
Eat Yoshinoya

>> No.9847372

Ramen
Indian curry

There is a fucking shitload of amazing authentic curry in tokyo

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Enjoy some nice Japanese fushion

>> No.9847386

>>9847252
>If you're not an idiot and actually have conversational Japanese
>and actually have conversational Japanese
>conversational Japanese

Oh yeah, because OP should just learn conversational Japanese before he goes over! SUPER EASY!

>> No.9847407

>>9844643
I've never been but people tell me that local sake makers are thick on the floor in japan, and every town/region has a local brand that sells in jumbo cartons for chump change. I'd investigate that.

>> No.9847427

Curryman from convenience stores. Usually next to the nikuman. Get them last at night with a chu-hi or beer in-between bar hopping.
Curry from CoCo curry.
The wings from hottomotto.
Oden
Definitely eat chicken wings somewhere. Different from American factory farmed chickens.
Seafood yakisoba.

>> No.9847441

My favorite memories of Japan are walking around the bar area in winter. Drinking chu hi, dipping into random bars for one or 2 drinks. I found a bar ran by a cross-dressing voodoo lady in Nagasaki.

>> No.9847486

Don't worry about speaking Japanese just learn konbanwaa. Japanese who know English will be drawn to you. You can look for a foreginer bar if you are looking for local recommendations. There will be English speakers there.

Get katsudon too.

>> No.9847730

>>9844643
Sakamushi. Best shit ever.

>> No.9847780

>>9844643
Oden, also try some weird shit like hasamiyaki.
Try to go beachside and eat at street vendors.

>> No.9848465

Okononomiyaki. If you're up north, try the nattto, gyutan shioyaki, and some dairy shit from hokkaido. .

>>9844973
>To be fair friend is korean so he can pass off as a slimy island gook.
No fucking way. You think the chopari's aren't going to spot some zainichi?

>>9844973
Just any donburi in general, not just tempura don.

>small hole in the wall izakaya
>Try to go beachside and eat at street vendors.
This should be your option one.

>>9846439
Hey, that's not true. Sometimes they invade korea to keep the European powers from invading korea, or to invade korea because it's on the way to china. Hell, more than once they wanted to invade Korea because it would be good for the Koreans.

>>9847358
Yoshinoya in Japan is a completely different beast than the shit in America.

>> No.9848494

>>9848465
Well, the last time they invaded Korea was because Admiral Perry pulled up to Tokyo and was like, hey fuckers, trade with us or we'll level this city. They were like, man, that worked pretty well, and then did the same thing to Korea 10 years later.

>> No.9848571

>>9848465
Have some friends in enoshima, the street vendors there are great.

>> No.9848594

>>9846481
Thats a "girls bar" or hostess club, not a soapland pretty big difference.

>> No.9848613

Dango, all those different forms of mochi, some fresh taiyaki

>> No.9848631

yakiniku. find a place that is all you can eat with in a time period.

shabushabu. it is like yakiniku. except you put meat and veggies in broth to cook them and then dip them.

Ichiran ramen in Machida is a must.

>> No.9848766

>>9848631
Ichiran is all over the place but it is a must just for the experience, honestly.

>> No.9848872

>>9848766
>>9848631
>Ichiran ramen

My cousin went to the one in brooklyn and said it was one of the best places he has ever eaten at. I would like to take his word on it, but he's a big fat drunk from jersey. is the USA location that good?

>> No.9848903

>>9848631
>yakiniku
Korean barbeque
>shabushabu
Chinese hot pot

Man, I'm pretty sure most of you have never had Japanese food at all, you just think you did.

>> No.9848975

>>9848872
I've never been to the US location but I'd imagine it isn't as good as the actual ones in Japan.

>> No.9848981

Why hasn't takoyaki caught on in the US? One of you foodtruck fucks get on this.

>> No.9849109

アメリカでアツアツのたこ焼きを売ったら訴えられるからな

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>>9844643
Mitarashi_dango

>> No.9849720

>>9844955
Tsukiji

>> No.9849881

>>9848903
While Yakiniku and shabushabu are originally foreign in origin, they have been changed when they came to Japan and so are not the same anymore.

Hell, ramen came from China and curry came from India. Are you going to say that the Japanese versions aren't worth eating because you can just eat them in India and China?

>> No.9849966

Go at least for one night to a traditional ryokan with outdoor baths. Take the keiseki menu that's normally included.

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>>9847252
>My favorite activity however has been closed off to non-residents which is fucking annoying, I assume its because of the olympics and Chinese tourists abusing them

>> No.9851451

Yoshinoyas cheese curry with tons of pickles was a staple for me in the winter. Right off the bus and into the restaurant then down to the bars.

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Try this aesthetic sushi thing from Awomb if you're in Kyoto and let me live vicariously through you

>> No.9853873

>>9850049
If you spoke Japanese and were into it you'd know what it was. Seems like the more I talked about the fun stuff I found in Japan the more it got closed off.

>> No.9854270

>>9844643

Depends on whatever city you're going to; I loved the food in Osaka and Kyoto. Fantastic tempura and seafood.

Don't forget the drinking culture in Tokyo is excellent - the Kashmir in Tokyo is a hidden gem.

>> No.9854730

>>9853873
is there a reason why you're being so secretive?

>> No.9854747

>>9849109
おそらくそう

>> No.9854769

>>9852341
Do I paddle the server, or does the server paddle me?

>> No.9855049

>>9854730
He's trying to look cool on an anonymous imageboard.

>> No.9856150

>>9847163
You're pathetic. Remove yourself from the human genepool.

>> No.9856166

>>9852341
What's in the miso?

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Also op try this wabi-sabi shaved ice from Wad Omotenashi Cafe in Osaka

>> No.9857881

>>9846481
The Yakuza don't want trouble to an exaggerated extent, have no interest in having foreigners anywhere near their business because of that and leftover resentment from postwar occupation-mandated brothels polluting their gene pool, and only occasionally relent if you're fluent and/or accompanied by a Nip friend (neither are guarantees). The Triads don't want trouble and let non-flaky-looking foreigners in, but don't do interesting things because it's just an extension of the same old worldwide illegal-but-unbustable "massage" biz rather than the Japanese water trade's autistic bundle of which sex acts are unbanned in which police precinct and how can we superfetishize what we can get away with advertising around this station.

The most fun by concept are independent Japanese that spring up in red light districts where 893 can just take protection money from the whole block, but they tend to get the x1s if not like x3s, x4s and borderline retards because they can only recruit by literally advertising for whores rather than funneling in delinquent payday loans.

The Nigerians and some independent East Asian immigrants are the scammers of "follow you around Kabukicho for six blocks begging you to come see their girls" and "first ten shots are free, eleventh shot is $5,000" fame.

If you don't know reviews of the shops and aren't going as a group, don't listen to any touts, there are "information kiosks" in the usual hotspots like Kabukicho, Dogenzaka, Yoshiwara, etc which will reliably point whites, Arabs, and rich-seeming Koreans and Chinese to foreigner-friendly shops that will probably tag $50 or $100 onto the bill but will be up-front about it if you even read enough Japanese to notice. If you're black/under 50/under 300 pounds, seriously just go to a live house I understand that it sucks to go halfway around the world and still have no-go zones but all the pussy you want is right there for free.

>>9844643
Don't plan specific things. Explore.

>> No.9857994

There's a really really good ramen place in my town, and on one visit I took the opportunity to try Takoyaki.

I'd previously interpreted takoyaki as fried squid balls, and I guess my idea of fried was too american, because these felt a bit gooey inside.
I liked the taste, but the texture was so alien I wasn't able to fully enjoy them.
It seemed like they probably weren't fucked up, because there was clearly a lot of effort put into their presentation, with garnishes and such.

Is takoyaki supposed to have a bit of a gooey interior?

>> No.9858008

>>9857994
Yes, the gooeyness is the best part. They're like a fresh from the oven popover or Yorkshire pud except with a chewy filling.

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Get ready to drown in pool friendo

>> No.9858050

>>9857881
You seem like the type that read about this, extensively, but with no actual information. Conversational Japanese is enough to get you into all but the most exclusive places, and even when you're turned down once if you go back and theres a different doorman you might get in.

Also there is no discrimination based on race once you leave the Asian continent. Theres discrimination against Indians and South East Asians but a black guy is going to be treated the same as a white guy.

>> No.9858062

>>9858050
>a black guy is going to be treated the same as a white guy
nowhere in the world is that true

>> No.9858066

>>9845631
Flips are the niggers of asia

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>>9844643
kushi katsu

Basically they give you a tub of dipping sauce and deep fry anything you want for 100 yen a stick.


anything.

fruits, vegetables, meats, desserts.

>> No.9858111

>>9858050
>but a black guy is going to be treated the same as a white guy.

Look at this nigger delusion, everyone you niggers come into contact with hates you

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>>9844745
>With a friend

Dammit

>> No.9858152

>>9858050
You're right that it's always worth trying again, because a lot of the wiggle room is how good business is recently and who's on rotation that day as long as you're neither a slav nor military. But I worked for a while concierging fresh-off-the-boat (lol) Americans around Tokyo, and it was miserable trying to get the brothers into anywhere fun, not so much because of the tired old shitty American ideas about black people but because the standard assumption was that they were a) military and probably rowdy and b) dongzilla and gonna stretch out the merchandise.

If your criteria is "can put your dick somewhere warm" instead of "this one place visible from a Gusto's balcony in Dogenzaka lets you specify mutual masturbation by a squirter while she wears a specific blazer/skirt combo and under-rim glasses, now repeat for everyone else's specific kink", well, sure, only the most exclusive places are out of reach. But that weaksauce definition of basically all proper fuzoku, the top 30% or so, as "most exclusive" is the whole point of bothering as a foreigner in Japan. You can stick your dick somewhere warm just going to a foreigner bar or doing basic nampa, no reason to pay unless you're getting something very specific done on demand.

>> No.9858166

>>9858062
>Shit white guys who don't travel say
White guys are biggest bitch and moaners about racism in Japan, where as most other groups view it as light. Its because they get treated the same

>> No.9858204

>>9858166
It's fun to watch them leave with a new realization of how shitty it is to be treated as a walking lump of Okay When Are You Leaving that's only redeemed by their shitty buttoned shirt, tie, and conscious effort to mimic the right accent rather than what they grew up with.

Black Americans still have it worse, because soldiers and sailors in general behave badly and the Navy is still the only American institution color-blind enough to regularly consider them for overseas positions.

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>>9846481
sounds like an exciting challenge desu as long as I have friends and the nips don't use guns

>> No.9858240

>>9858204
When I was living in Japan I rarely dealt with the military guys, so there might be more racism in the seedier side than I realize, but I'm mixed race and have never had a problem getting friends of any race (with passable Japanese) into most places. Even doing regular nanpa my black friends usually did better than my white friends, but it often came down to Japanese ability. Less than stellar Japanese ability friends had less success getting into the fun but it was always my white friends who were the most angry that they were being denied for not being Japanese.

It makes me fucking angry now that the olympics are getting closer, places I regularly went to with visiting friends are completely shut off without a health insurance card

>> No.9858283

>>9858240
Yeah, described that way I agree. The problem is questionable conversational fluency and the chance of arguments x having to deal with a high-value-added pimp who still doesn't know how vaginas work and doesn't want to be the reason next year's bribe budget goes up, which is messy when you want a specific fetish on demand. If you're cruising black guys definitely have better luck, and white guys do get hilariously mad at being treated how they'd treat an Asian never mind a black back home.

Personally I'm just glad I had Nichome, lol.

>> No.9858307

here have this. I like this guy and he has good suggestions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bstGUTzkg-0

>> No.9858311 [DELETED] 

>>9858283
Little black boi cant stop thinking about the strong ebil white man hahahaha what a joke you niggers are

>> No.9858319

>>9858166
shoo shoo black boi go back to your concrete jungle crying about white privlige

>> No.9858321

I see the no-passport Oklahoman brigade is fully mobilized.

>> No.9858430

>>9844680
>gorilla curry
>not CoCo curry

actually just try them both, they're both great in their own ways. They're nothing like your regular indian curry.

>> No.9858492

>>9858430
gogo and coco are pretty similar!
coco goes a lot hotter, gogo is better in the lower heat levels. and if you're american gogo is your jam if you're east coast but coco is what you can get at home if you're west.

>> No.9859178

Damn this thread is still up huh? Well dont mind if I bump it back up to the first page :^)

>> No.9859683

>>9858050
>a black guy is going to be treated the same as a white guy
Haha, no.
t. nigger in nippon

>> No.9859710

Good luck at EVO Japan!

>> No.9859755

>>9858430
>>9858492
GoGo is garbage. The "curry" taste like steak sauce.
CoCo is GOAT Japanese curry. Don't worry about spice, you can get it as hot or mild as you like.

Also I personally don't like MOS Burger, but I can see someone else liking it. It's... different. Just dont go there when your in the mood for a classic cheeseburger.

All the cheap gyudon places are pretty good (Yoshinoya, Sukiya, etc)

>> No.9859819

>>9844745
>fun to make
It's a fucking nightmare to flip, but tasty part is true.