/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.9799840]

Why do we shit on people who like their steak well done?
What's so wrong about it?

[Anonymous No.9799858]

>>9799840
It's a waste of good meat. If the meat is cheap, then it doesn't really matter. However, if you're buying cheap meat and cooking the hell out of it, why are you making steak and not a braise or a stew?

[Anonymous No.9799859]

fuck off

[Anonymous No.9799863]

>>9799840
i only eat it medium well, i dont want parasites and worms, also eating raw meat is disgusting.

[Anonymous No.9799867]

>steak = not well done
>hamburger = well done

Ground beef is not a fucking steak, they asked me this shit at red robin and i wanted to shit my pants and throw it at them

[Anonymous No.9799877]

>>9799867
If the meat is freshly ground in a sanitary environment, then it's safe to eat as rare you want, even raw.

[Anonymous No.9799881]

You know how people think something is true just because its widely spread and repeated by many? I ordered my steak well done in a hipster diner and the waiter asked if i was sure i didnt mean medium. He probably hadnt eaten a steak well done in his life just because people had told him it was wrong. A well done steak is just as good as a medium rare one but if the chef dont know whenits done it can easily become stale and dry.

[Anonymous No.9799895]

>>9799840
Rare is mushy, well done is tough and dry. In blind taste tests people consistently prefer medium rare.

[Anonymous No.9799925]

>>9799863
You realise there is an actual difference between rare and raw, right?

[Anonymous No.9799945]

>>9799925
no

[Anonymous No.9799951]

>>9799881
I feel like you're right and people just spread this opinion because they've been told it their whole lives.
The probably haven't even formulated an opinion of their own by trying both options themselves, and are simply parroting information.
See:
>>9799859

[Anonymous No.9799973]

[Anonymous No.9800164]

Medium is the perfect doneness. Cooked thoroughly, yet still juicy.

[Anonymous No.9800170]

[Anonymous No.9800189]

>>9799895
>blind taste tests
As if people couldn't tell from the texture alone how it was cooked.

[Anonymous No.9800205]

>>9800170
>taking advice from /v/
>ever

[Anonymous No.9800281]

>>9800170
I always knew they had shit taste, but now I know it's literal.

[Anonymous No.9800295]

low fat medium raw
everything else medium
uncooked animal fat is disgusting

[Anonymous No.9800447]

>>9799881
I haven't got a fedora large enough to tip this post.
>now I am enlightened

[Anonymous No.9800472]

>>9799840
The only thing that pisses me off about it is when I order medium rare and the person across the table from me orders well done I know that my entire order is going to sit under a hot lamp for like 10 minutes.

Rustles my jimmies.

[Anonymous No.9800541]

>>9799840
Most people prefer to stop cooking before the food gets burnt. Personally Im just not fond of that charcoal taste

[Anonymous No.9801209]

As a preference, well done removes a lot of subtleties of the meat so you can get a wide variety of cuts and qualities and they’ll all taste quite similar. By slathering it with ketchup they’ll taste exactly the same. If you crave consistency you’ll get what you want every time. For me I like medium at a restaurant and when I grill at home I like medium rare.

[Anonymous No.9801221]

>>9800170
>>9800170
>somewhere in the world someone unironically has this opinion

[Anonymous No.9801224]

>>9800295
>medium rare means uncooked
What did she mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9801246]

>>9799840
Blue is the best because I like the meat fibers warm yet wet and soft.

[Anonymous No.9801260]

>>9799840

>Why do we shit on people who ask for their wine piping hot in a sippy-cup?

>What's so wrong about it?

If you ask for your steak well-done my automatic assumption is that you are a child. If you don't like steak, don't order steak. That's fine.

[Anonymous No.9801507]

>>9799863
Medium rare is not raw you idiot. It's completely cooked. It's just that it hasn't had all the juices grilled out of it like a well done steak.

[Anonymous No.9801511]

>>9799945
(You)

[Anonymous No.9801530]

>>9801511
>this picture
everytime

[Anonymous No.9801549]

>>9801530
I guess everyone thinks you're a retard then.

[Anonymous No.9801551]

>>9799840
mid rare is the perfect pussy

[Anonymous No.9801600]

>>9801511
>tfw dick and balls are smaller than retarded persons
literally kill me now

[Anonymous No.9801782]

>>9799840
In european standarts the bleu steak in the picture is actually medium

[Anonymous No.9802181]

>>9799840
Kills flavor. The savory sweetness of the enzymes warming the center of the half cooked interior is better than chewy garbage. If you're cooking at the right temp, you get the exact same surface carmalization with rare and medium rare as well. Literally just missing the point of a steak.

[Anonymous No.9803719]

Bump

[Anonymous No.9803738]

>>9802181
>M-muh "literally" nignog mastery of the language.
The point of a steak is to enjoy it, negro. If that means someone needs to cook the fuck out of it, that's their deal, famalam. Seriously, though. How the fuck does everyone claim to have 200 IQ, yet fuck up the usage of "literally" most of the time. Not asking for perfection here, just something beyond some grade school basic bitch who thinks ignorance is cool.

[Anonymous No.9804035]

>>9799840
What's so wrong about liking well done steak? Nothing. Some people just have bad taste. What's so wrong about shitting on people who have bad taste? That's just kind of mean, I suppose. If by 'we", you meant 4chan, people are often assholes when they can be anonymous.

[Anonymous No.9804052]

>>9803738
Literally now literally means figuratively, anon.

[Anonymous No.9804112]

Burgers medium well. Steak medium. Chicken raw

[Anonymous No.9804119]

it indicates a lack of class, culture and taste

[Anonymous No.9804128]

>>9799840
I went to a $$$$ restaurant in Seattle once. I went there about once a month and ordered my usual medium-rare steak. The usual waitress brought the steak out and a third of the steak had a red surface. Not slightly pink but just cold, dark red and gelatinous like raw beef. I tried it and gagged because I couldn't even chew it enough to be able to swallow it without my gag reflex kicking in. I was telling the waitress to cook it some more and she actually argued with me that it was "a perfect medium-rare." I couldn't even write off the %25 tip because it was part of the bill. Never went there again

[Anonymous No.9804187]

>>9804052

Don't be a nigger.

[Anonymous No.9804206]

>>9799840
Has there been a shift in what steak temp has been? What was once medium is now medium rare, at least in that pic

[Anonymous No.9804211]

>>9799840
>What's so wrong about it?
It's a waste of good raw materials. If you like "well done" meat by personal preference, that's fine, just don't waste a steak cut on it. Use a cheap cut of meat instead--you get the same results and you don't waste an expensive premium cut.

If you want a non-food example, cooking a steak well-done is like using a very fancy piece of wood to make matchsticks (as opposed to, say, fine furniture or musical instruments)

[Anonymous No.9804213]

>>9800170
I don't understand how this is possible, it's too self-contradictory.

[Anonymous No.9804223]

>>9800541
Charcoal taste complements a blue rare pretty well, but that would require actual skill at grilling.

[Anonymous No.9804228]

>>9799840
That isn't blue.

[Anonymous No.9804236]

>>9801600
It's actually a giant shit.

[Anonymous No.9804354]

>>9799951
I doubt there is many people lile that at all. Everyone's tried a well-done steak, everyone has someone in their family who eats it that way and almost everyone understands that it objectively worse tasting that eating it rare.

[Anonymous No.9804395]

>>9800170
this list is shit
>elder god tier
rare
>god tier
medium rare
>fucking great tier
medium, and blue rare
>meh tier
medium well and well done

[Anonymous No.9804799]

>>9799840
Especially considering how it's unsanitary and just plain gross.

What kind of humans eat raw meat?

[Anonymous No.9804853]

>>9799840
That image is shit
The "Blue" is medium rare. Medium Well and Well look like plywood

[Anonymous No.9804909]

>>9801221
the creator of that image wouldn't be able to tell you if it was rare or medium rare anon, it's ok

[Anonymous No.9804913]

>>9799858
>someone eats steak and enjoys it
>"""waste""" of food

[Anonymous No.9804919]

>>9800447
this is my go-to

[Anonymous No.9804920]

>>9804913
If you're on a board to discuss food being interested in the "right" and "better" ways to do something should be absolutely implicit, and if you genuinely believed nothing matters and people should just do whatever they feel like there would be no reason to post here. Accept the premise that this shit matters or stop posting or even reading this board

[Anonymous No.9804924]

>>9804913
Not her but I think she meant to say it's more of a waste of money for the person rather than a waste of food. If you buy an expensive ribeye or tenderloin then cook it well done, it means you've just cooked all the delicious flavor out of it. If you do the same with a cheap sirloin, you've basically just made a smaller, drier, less flavorful pot roast. You would've been better off just buying a sirloin roast and cooking it low and slow.

[Anonymous No.9804936]

>>9804920
does this post have any meaning whatsoever lol

[Anonymous No.9804964]

>>9799840
>blue, not actually a hint of blue

Blue steak is supposed to be purple, or in other words ... fucking raw.

[Anonymous No.9804970]

>>9804964
That looks so good to me. I wonder where this beautiful steak is from?

[Anonymous No.9805578]

>>9804970
It looks fucking awful, I hope you're joking.
>soggy
>tattered
>raw fat
>outside didn't even get a good sear
Pic related is how a blue steak should look

[Anonymous No.9806412]

>>9804187
Language changes, anon. Words aren't set in stone. Believe it or not, words aren't defined by a dictionary, but rather, how people use that word. People use the word literally as figuratively these days, that means the meaning of the word has changed.

[Anonymous No.9806697]

>>9804964
R A W
A
W

[Anonymous No.9806737]

>>9799840
I cooked a ribeye well done recently, AMA.

[Anonymous No.9806764]

>>9806737
Why would you do that?

[Anonymous No.9806790]

>>9806764
It was medium rare at first, didn't have much taste to it. So in desperation I cooked it again, and it turned super delicious. I was amazed.

[Anonymous No.9806801]

>>9806412
Literally this

[Anonymous No.9806893]

>>9800170
>medium well over medium rare

[Anonymous No.9806895]

>>9799877
Steak tartare is the gods' food

[Anonymous No.9807492]

[Anonymous No.9807580]

>>9804913
yeah and some people prefer fake cheese over real cheese, but just because they enjoy it just as much doesnt mean its on the same level

[Anonymous No.9807584]

>>9805578
Nah that's more like rare.

[Anonymous No.9807585]

>>9807492
Reminder that no healthy young adult ever died from salmonella. Only children and the elderly need well done chicken.

[Anonymous No.9807607]

>>9807585
>Only children and the elderly

so 4chan then

[Anonymous No.9807610]

>>9807492
>"veges"
>"clean eating"

Every time I see this image it drives me one step closer to death.

[Anonymous No.9807663]

>>9799840
here's the real chart

[Anonymous No.9807690]

Raw = 1-6 years old
Blue = 7-12 years old
Rare = 13-18 years old
Medium Rare = 19-24 years old
Medium = 25-30 years old
whoch are you?

[Anonymous No.9807720]

>>9804354
Not quite. Everyone has different tastes in food. You can't say something is bad just because you don't like it. In my opinion steak is just a meme food, and should not be taken serious at all, its just lazy cooking a piece of meat.

[Anonymous No.9807738]

>>9807663
In order: delicious, delicious, delicious, delicious, disgusting, disgusting

[Anonymous No.9807772]

>>9807690
The is a steak = sex thing, right?

[Anonymous No.9807775]

>>9799840
>Cancer
https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/cooked-meats-fact-sheet

[Anonymous No.9807805]

>>9807690
>13-18
>tfw 18
Surprisingly accurate

[Anonymous No.9807935]

>>9807663
>man brings steak for me to cook
>2 inches thick
>i want this well done, ill be back in 10 minutes

[Anonymous No.9807950]

>>9807690
Well if you put it that way....

[Anonymous No.9807982]

>>9804964
That looks fucking atrocious
why are people like this?

[Anonymous No.9807995]

>>9807982
It's actually super fucking delicious with raw onions and some capers. Would only make that personally though unless the steakhouse was like Uber fancy

[Anonymous No.9808006]

>>9807995
What is the appeal of raw meat?
In the army they would feed us raw meat as a punishment, why do people do these things for enjoyment?

[Anonymous No.9808011]

>>9800472
If it makes you feel any better most grill cooks worth their shit know not to drop the medium rare on the grill until at least after a well done have grill marks on it. Plus it is a good thing to have meat rest a little bit before serving it as the juices evenly distribute that way.

[Anonymous No.9808026]

>>9801221
>Unironically
>It's not the 90's anymore, STOP using that faggot term

[Anonymous No.9808031]

>>9801782
Bollocks, Ameri-fat

[Anonymous No.9808041]

I used to think I liked Well Done steaks so I was mad at /ck/ but then it turned out that what I was actually eating was medium well or medium, and I actually had a well done steak and it was tough as shit

[Anonymous No.9808044]

>>9808031
>UK
>Europe
pick one. If the UK is European, then Cuba is North American

[Anonymous No.9808046]

>>9808006
Blue isn't raw though to get a really good blue rare you want to either Pittsburgh or sear it which is basically torching the outside with a super hot pan or open flame until it carmelizes and then let it rest the heat will travel in the steak as it equalizes and slowly gently gelantize the protiens without the loss of any of juices or denaturing them. If the quality of steak is good the flavor is fantastic. That being said if I am suspicious of the meat like Walmart brand or whatever I wouldn't do anything less than med rare but for the grass fed free range stuff it really makes my nipples erect to have, it isn't raw and doesn't taste bloody or anything like that but I get it isn't everyone's thing.

[Anonymous No.9808053]

>>9804964
thats not even blue thats just shite

[Anonymous No.9808057]

>>9807585
other foodborne ilnesses can be found in raw chicken

[Anonymous No.9808086]

>>9799863
>beef
>worms and parasites

fucking hell

[Anonymous No.9808224]

Well done can be fine depending on the kind of cut but on steak it doesn't make much sense. I much prefer a medium done steak.

Well done on beef isn't always bad, it really depends on the cut. On that note:
Well done carne asada > medium rare steak

Prove me wrong.
Pro tip: You can't

[Anonymous No.9808227]

>>9804924
>her
>she
Stop it with this retarded meme, you fucking mentally ill tranny faggot.

[Anonymous No.9808258]

>>9807492

[Anonymous No.9808264]

>>9799840
Yeah, that chart is way over. Pretty much shift everything down at least one.

[Anonymous No.9808305]

>>9806412
Your literally retard.

[Anonymous No.9808315]

What's the name of the variant where the steak is rare on the inside but charred on the outside? It was [something]-blue, or something like that.

I believe it's made by braising the steak very shortly on extremely hot skillet.

[Anonymous No.9808326]

>>9807690
past 40, I'm overcooked.

[Anonymous No.9808331]

>>9808305
Not me however you though.

[Anonymous No.9808481]

>>9800170
medium is objectively the best

[Anonymous No.9808487]

>>9808315
share-blue

[Anonymous No.9808719]

>>9807585
Reminder that even if you don't die from it you get to go on Mister Bones Wild Porcelain Throne Ride for up to two weeks literally doing the ass-blasing all day

[Anonymous No.9808873]

>>9808044
UK is still in Europe, and will be until June 2019.
And it will still be geographically part of Europe regardless of whatever political dick fencing or feverish REEEEEEEEEEing happens in the meantime.

Well done is acceptable for a steak. Medium well is my preference, but anything pinker than that will give me problems I don't want to deal with.

[Anonymous No.9808881]

>>9799840
it's dry and the texture isn't as good. otherwise i don't have a problem with it

[Anonymous No.9808920]

>>9804213
>/v/
>too self-contradictory

Not possible, they can only grow
Hence the list

[Anonymous No.9808932]

>>9804799
retard

[Anonymous No.9808941]

If you call blue rare raw (or the OP pic blue rare) your opinion is already invalid.

[Anonymous No.9808945]

>>9807738
More like delicious, delicious, great, good, edible, garbage.

[Anonymous No.9808948]

>>9807690
Blue for both thanks

[Anonymous No.9808949]

>>9808719
The shitting isn't even the worst part, the excruciating stomach pain is

[Anonymous No.9808951]

>>9808026
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.9808953]

>>9808873
You are a waste of food.

[Anonymous No.9808999]

>>9806895
Go home, Mr. Vampire. I don't want to live in your wax works forever

[Anonymous No.9809018]

>>9808999
Go home, kiddo. This site is 18+.

[Anonymous No.9809055]

>>9809018
It was just a reference to the movie Waxwork, anon. Which you would know if you were old enough to see it :^)

[Anonymous No.9809074]

>>9808227
What did she mean by this?

[Anonymous No.9809078]

>>9809074
(You)

[Anonymous No.9809107]

>>9808227
c'mon, women wanted equality in use of pronouns, so when you talk about a total retard or scumbag of nondescript gender you can as well refer to them as 'she'.

[Anonymous No.9809146]

>>9809074
she's mad that some people have allowed themselves the habit of reading "internet voice" as female unless otherwise indicated

reminds me of when our "religions of the world" teacher referred to God as "she" once to make a theological point, and gigatriggered some of the dumber kids whose parents promptly complained to the school board and got the class struck from the curriculum permanently

the next time I saw that teacher he was filling in as a math substitute teacher to keep the roof over his head

[Anonymous No.9809149]

>>9809055
The joke was past prime and the delivery was underdone.

[Anonymous No.9809372]

>>9799973
i agree

[Anonymous No.9809397]

>>9809107
Fuck you faggot

[Anonymous No.9809652]

>>9800170
>tfw prefer blue rare
>tfw it's actually illegal to serve steak blue where I live
>tfw have to settle for rare and hope the grill fucks up

It's a true struggle.

[Anonymous No.9809680]

>>9799840
Grey meat usually has no flavor. A nice balance of pink inside and brown outside gives a great flavor and perfect level of juiciness. This concept also applies to choosing the right women.

[Anonymous No.9809724]

Because steak is made from high quality cuts of meat, overcooking it defeats the point of eating it. Same with people who put steak sauce, ketchup, or even gravy (yes I've seen it happen). The point of a steak is to enjoy the tenderness and flavor of the meat itself, not turn it into a chewy puck of leather and drown it in some vinegar sauce

[Anonymous No.9809738]

>>9804920
>being interested in the "right" and "better" ways to do something should be absolutely implicit
it's not though. lurk moar.

[Anonymous No.9809798]

>>9800170
/V/ doesn't even have good opinions on Video Games, why would I trust it on food?

[Anonymous No.9810109]

>>9804936
It means he's a whiny extremist "everyone should be like me or else nothing matters" faggot with a stick up his gaping anus and isn't up to speed on life.

[Anonymous No.9810145]

>>9808227
>being triggered by pronouns
>treating 4chan as a safe space

[Anonymous No.9810270]

>>9809107
>>9809146
>>9809074
>>9810145
Whether or not you have an issue with it, it's blatant (You) baiting. It always gets replies, that's why people do it.

[Anonymous No.9810275]

>>9804395
>blue rare not at the top
At least I can accept your post as a different opinion, not worthless garbage.

[Anonymous No.9810276]

>>9799840

>Not eating it blue

[Anonymous No.9810277]

>>9810276
That blue is a medium rare though.

[Anonymous No.9810292]

>>9810145
>referring to men as women
that's pretty fucking gay

[Anonymous No.9811023]

You're an absolute faggot if you eat medium rare. Blue rare is the only way you get your monies worth

[Anonymous No.9811091]

Cavemen eat raw meat.
Civilized people eat cooked meat.

[Anonymous No.9811306]

>>9811091
>knuckle dragging retard thinks rare = raw

[Anonymous No.9811335]

>>9799840
Well I mean, I like my steak medium rare. But I don't care how anyone else eats theirs. Why would I care? Why is it even my business?

[Anonymous No.9811377]

>>9799840
Because the only way people are happy anymore is if they are shitting on other people. If it wasn't steak doneness it would be something else.

[Anonymous No.9811544]

>>9799840
Because that's the best way to ruin a fuckin steak and the people who do such thing are a bunch of MORONS!.

[Anonymous No.9811756]

>>9799863
its ok anon, you dont need to be ashamed of living in the third world.

[Anonymous No.9811759]

>>9799945
dopy cunt

[Anonymous No.9811787]

>>9805578
i should not have look at this thread while hungry holy moly

[Anonymous No.9811795]

>>9807805
underage plz get off 4chan