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/Whiskey General/ - brown liquor is fighting liquor

time to discuss our love/hate for
>brands
>flavors
>cocktails
>price
>drinking vessels
>bourbon vs scotch
>blended vs single malt
>whisky vs whiskey

Whisky info courtesy of your friendly neighborhood anon: https://ghostbin.com/paste/nkr9v

This is NOT an Al/ck/oholic thread.

shall we enjoy a drink /ck/?

>> No.9770714

looking at Glenfiddich for my next bottle. how does it compare to Glenlivet?

>> No.9771402

>>9770354
>E

Not posting here.

>> No.9771490
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>>9770354
Has anyone here had experience creating a "living Bottle with their scotch? i am about to try it in a couple of weeks. I am lower budget so i was thinking of things like Laphroaig, Glenmoange, and Glen Moray. Is it a bad idea to throw a peat bomb in a living bottle?

>> No.9772122

>>9770354
>whiskey with an e
I like anime girls in maid outfits, especially if they're lifting their skirts, but not as much as I dislike bourbon, please do better next time

anyway Yamazaki > the rest

I am on the look for the best price/performance ratio scotch, has to be cheap, blended is good, please gib suggestions

>> No.9773129

>>9770354
Necro bump

>> No.9773280

best 30 dollar whisky?

>> No.9773537

>>9770714
I would like to know this as well.

>> No.9773670

>>9770714
Glenlivet 12 > Glenfiddich 12 imo

Glenlivet hits all the right notes that Glenfiddich doesn't

>>9773280
Jameson tbqh

>> No.9774957

>>9773280
I haven't found anything good there yet. Whiskey included, there is plenty of nice small batch and single barrel stuff to chose from. I haven't found any whisky below $40 MSRP I would bother with again.

>> No.9775660

>>9773280
Maybe a gentleman Hack in sale?

>> No.9775726

>>9771490
I recently topped mine off and started to drink it. I'm not really into peat, so there was really only about 2 oz of really peaty Islay in there, and it was still noticeable, although not overpowering. Honestly just about the right amount of peaty smoke and brine on it for me.

I think you can't really ruin it if you're only adding things to your living bottle that you liked drinking in the first place. It can be fun to sit down and try to pick out the prominent notes from your favorites that went into it while looking for the blending notes as well.

Best of luck and let us know how it goes!

>> No.9775848

>>9772122
>disdain for bourbon
>thinks blended is good
how to spot a fedora tipper who drinks scotch to look "classy"

>> No.9775895

>>9775848
This. I don't like Bourbon much either, but fuck off if you think I'm drinking blends.

Before anyone says "BLENDS CAN BE GOOD TOO", they really aren't. The fact is a good blend will cost enough money that you might as well buy a real single malt.

>> No.9775942

i havent tried any of the japanese varieties out, where should i start? (Amerifat poster)

>> No.9776082

>>9775942
I got Suntory Toki 25% off and it is pretty nice. Not sure I would buy it at full price, but it is bretty good compared to similarly priced scotch. It seems so hard to find Nip whisky at a good price right now.

>> No.9776537
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9776537

Just bought this giftset for $37 at the liqour store.
I'mma drink some tonight, and let you guys know.

>> No.9776626

>>9776537
Glennmorangie Original is pretty nice. Not expensive, but a good taste and easy to drink. This and Glengoyne 10 are my favorite cheap whiskys.

>> No.9776632

>>9771490
The fuck is a living bottle?

>> No.9776650

>>9776537
do yourself a favor next time and buy a bottle of bullett and stop being pretentous ;^)

>> No.9776678
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9776678

What's a good rye whiskey I can get out in California? I moved from Pittsburgh last year and miss my ritual of getting a bottle from Wigle every couple of weeks.

>> No.9776735

>>9776678
So I'm a whiskey Newbie. What is a decent and inexpensive whiskey? (Canada if it means anything)

>> No.9776742

>>9776735
>>9776626
Monkey Shoulder is also frequently mentioned as a good beginner drink but it's a blend.

>> No.9776747

I never cared too much about whisky until a friend left a bottle of laphroaig at my house. Now i'm fucked, i can't stop thinking about it whenever i drink anything else. being poor sucks.

>> No.9776781

>>9776537
You're going to have a good night, Anon

>> No.9776802

>>9770354
That's a cute maid(male)

>> No.9776833

>>9776742
A blend as in for mixing or as in blended whiskey? I dont really know much of anything about whiskey and was hoping to start in on some simple straight whiskeys to cut out blending drinks,

>> No.9776852

>>9776833
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blended_malt_whisky

>> No.9776887

>>9776852
Thank you anon! I think I'll give that whiskey a try if I can get my hands on it!

>> No.9776897

>>9776852
Also I take it stuff like wisers, crown royal and such are pretty crap tier?

>> No.9776902

Connemara is Laphroaig 10 for people who appreciate the smoothness. And I say this as a Laphroaig and Lagavulin fanatic.

>> No.9776903

>>9776897
I'm not familiar with Canadian stuff so I can't really comment on that.

>> No.9776919

>>9776903
Alright, they are just the ones most people know in households, the big mass produced brands of whiskey. I may just buy and try some various whiskeys and see how I like them individually

>> No.9777103

>>9776897
Crown royal was pretty mediocre when I tried it last.

>> No.9777127

>>9777103
I expected as much, I'm gonna look into grabbing some various brands and trying smaller bottles of them.

>> No.9777254
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Anyone try this before, got a half bottle from a friend

>> No.9777305

>>9777127
Stay away from the crap they add maple syrup to (by Canadian law, they can actually add syrup to it and still call with Whiskey). Check out the bottles mentioned in the ghostbin if you can, although it still incorrectly defines rye whiskey.

>> No.9777330

>>9777305
nothing weong with maple whisky if you understand you're getting a sweet liqueur as opposed to a serious bottle of whisky

>> No.9777374

>>9777305
Cant drink sweet stuff anyways, and what do you mean by ghost bin?

>> No.9777381

>>9770354
Who here /TenHigh/?

>> No.9777702

>>9776650
>bullett
You mean MGP swill.

>> No.9777713

>>9776537
>>9776626
>>9776781
I drank a couple glasses of the Original tonight, and it was the best Scotch for the price I have ever had.
Had a nice sweetness to it, almost like a well made whiskey cocktail. I'll probably go back and buy a few more bottles before I move to Utah next month.

>> No.9777715

>>9777702
only bulleit rye is mgp

>> No.9777717

>>9777715
That's actually good to know. Maybe I'll give bulleit bourbon a try

>> No.9777726

>>9777717
it's alright, nothing special but it's decent for the price
the rye really isn't that bad, it's actually pretty alright, but once you've had one mgp rye you've literally had them all

>> No.9777732

>>9777726
>once you've had one mgp rye you've literally had them all
This.
High West is literally just Bulleit with a fancy label and a a huge mark-up.

>> No.9777741
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9777741

Gimme the full lasagna on Toki?
Was recommended a bottle at the liqour store today, and would love to know what you guys think.
Thanks

>> No.9777742

I had some kikori that was delicious. Actually had a flavor similar to brandy.

>> No.9777747

>>9777741
Japanese whiskey has a bit less flavor and a bit more sweetness. Compared to the scotch or bourbon rivals, it a little lighter and a little sweeter than the rivals. I think that's why people think its better in taste tests and worse in actual purchases.

>> No.9777753

>>9777742
mah niggah, I'm halfway through my bottle

>> No.9777754

I want to get my (step) Father a nice Whisky for christmas. But I don't know anything about it. I'm a gin man. What's good? I know he likes to sip Crown but i want to get him something nice.

>> No.9777759

>>9777747
Nice, thanks for the info, anon

>> No.9777910

>>9777374
The URL in the OP

>>9777741
Imagine if Bushmills were good. Smooth, a bit sweet (not bourbon sweet), light, nice mouthfeel, a little malty. Just don't overpay.

>> No.9778013
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>>9777713
you did good

>> No.9778017

>>9778013
how the fuck can a whisky be libertarian or authoritarian

>> No.9778171

>>9777254
Aberlour is delicious.

>> No.9778274

>>9777754
Get him something interesting. It's the thought that counts.

>> No.9778281

>>9773280
I feel like makers mark has the best quality to price ratio. You can get a decent sized bottle for less than 30 dollars and it's good by itself

>> No.9778803

How do I enjoy scotch? I'm a bourbon drinker and the only way I ever enjoy scotch is mixed with amaretto.
Whenever I try to drink it straight I just don't enjoy it.

>> No.9778852

>>9775848
>>9775895
>blended is bad because it's blended
you should try JW green and/or Hibiki
anyway bourbon is (in my experience at least) characterized by vanilla and sweet favors, honey & so on
blended scotch isn't, that alone is reason enough for me to prefer even a cheap-ish blended scotch over a higher tier bourbon
>>9775942
it looks like jap whisky is very sought after in the US in recent years, hence the very high price
if you don't have any problem with that, the Yamazaki 12y is very very good imo

>> No.9779140

>>9777754
Get him a nice rye like high west

>> No.9779146
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>>9777754
Basil Hayden's. It's a great sipping bourbon and my personal favorite at the moment. Plus, it looks great for display.

>> No.9779151

>>9778803
maybe you just don't like the taste of scotch
you may try some good scotch on the sweeter side, or you may stick to bourbon if you prefer it

>> No.9779168

>>9778803
What scotches have you tried? There is no distinct "scotch" taste unlike bourbon.

Things like the Balvenie 12 or 14 or Glenmorangie Nectar D'Or are on the sweeter side.

>> No.9779303

>>9779168
Scotch whisky I've tried:
>Balvenie 12
>Glenlivet 12
>Arbeg 10
>Johnnie Walker Black

The Ardbeg was the most interesting but none of them are drinks that I would find myself craving or wanting to go back to. They all have this aftertaste that makes me feel like I'm not supposed to be drinking them. Very chemical. I never get that with other liqours

>> No.9779454

>>9779140
High West Double Rye has a nice flavor.
sourced from MGP, but it doesn’t have the same bite as Bulleit Rye for instance

>>9779146
it has that familiar and odd Beam taste imho

>> No.9779542

>>9779454
>sourced from MGP, but it doesn’t have the same bite as Bulleit Rye for instance
People don't really understand what the nature of these distilleries' relationship with MGP is. MGP distills the the rye grain spirit, which is raw unaged alcohol. Most distilleries don't distill rye because rye grain is notoriously sticky and difficult to clean out of the stills, so they buy the rye spirit from MGP and perform the barrelling and ageing process (the part that actually varies the most between each distillery and has the greatest effect on the final outcome) with their own equipment.
High West tastes a little different from Bulleit rye because their respective ageing processes have variations between them. People tend to hear that several ryes originate at MGP and assume they're just bottled at the distillery with a unique label slapped on the bottle.

>> No.9779629

How do you guys cope with getting super plastered and saying embarrassing things.

>> No.9779639

>>9779629
I never talk to the person I embarrassed myself in front of again

>> No.9779654

>>9779629
less likely to get plastered if you're drinking from a $100 bottle

>> No.9779708

>>9779629
I just live with it as yet another thing that I'm embarrassed about.

>> No.9779821

I just found a mysterious little plastic bottle of William Lawson lost in my things, despite being unopened the alcohol reduced to half somehow.
It's a good brand? Will it taste like shit?

>> No.9779869

>>9775726
How big is your bottle? I was going to mess around with a couple 100ml bottles I got and when I decide to grow some big balls I was going to use a 350ml.

>> No.9779901

vodka is better than whiskey you all suck

>> No.9779930

>>9779542
insecure much?

>> No.9779941

>>9771490
why don’t you guys just finish the bottle?
sorry, i always thought this was a weird idea

>> No.9779979

>>9779930
>explaining how whiskey manufacture works is insecurity
Do people really hate being informed about things that much?

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who /irish/ here?

>> No.9780010

>>9779979
it’s all common knowledge to any liquor enthusiast

>> No.9780021

>>9780005
never tried that, but Redbreast, Yellowspot, Teeling, Connemara are all pretty good.
not a fan of Jameson though

>> No.9780047
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>>9780005
Also, don't fall for The Sexton meme.

>> No.9780289

>>9780010
Doesn't change the fact that you see more people incorrectly complaining about how MGP ryes are all the same than you see people acknowledging the reality of it. I didn't say it for the people who already know, I said it to inform those who don't.

>> No.9780302

>>9780289
thank you Mr Minister of Information, the board would self destruct without you.

>> No.9780309

>>9780302
I don't know why you've got such a bug up your ass over someone talking about whiskey in a liquor thread.

>> No.9780313

>>9772122
You wut m8? Chichibu and anything from MARS is far better then any crap Suntory put out.
>>9773280
Speyburn Braden Orach or Tomatin that's not 12 or under
>>9776537
Glenmo is overpriced as fuck, Original especially sucks balls.
Go for Balblair vintages older than 2005 instead.
>>9776678
Not sure but So Good have a smoked cherrywood aged single malt that's fucking amazing

>> No.9780341

>>9776902
As a guy who loves both of those distilleries Connemara is boring as hell

>> No.9780366
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9780366

I'm trying my first scotch tonight. I splurged on this today to get me through finals. I don't normally spend more than 25$ on any one alcohol, but I've got high hopes for this!

What are you favorite budget scotches?

>> No.9780375

>>9780289
>Doesn't change the fact that you seek validation on an anonymous image board

>> No.9780384

>>9780366
i feel like there aren’t really an budget scotches in the US
that being said, Glenmorangie Original is one of the more affordable single malts and it’s actually pretty ok despite what this >>9780313 fine gentleman claims

>> No.9780413

>>9776735
>Canada

Forty Creek and Alberta Premium are both excellent and available at every government monopoly.

>> No.9780419

>>9780413
Wonderful! I'll check them out for sure! I have a gift card from earlier this year I havent used as I don't drink exceptionally often (but was hoping to find something nice to sip on)

>> No.9780470

>>9780375
>seek validation
I don't need shit from other people, I'd be happy if it went without a single (You). I'm just surprised someone could get so butthurt over a misconception being addressed.

>> No.9780493

>>9780366
Glen Moray 12 was my first Scotch. It's a great entry level one, you made a good choice.

>> No.9780567

>>9780470
>butthurt

>> No.9780572

>>9780567
I see literally no other reason for someone to take issue with it.

>> No.9780591

>>9780366
Famous Grouse, Glenlivet and Grants are alright budget scotches.

>> No.9780597

>>9780005
Is this good?

My experience with Irish whiskey is limited to Jameson and Redbreast, which I thought was fantastic.

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9780630

>>9780591
>famous grouse
>grant's

>> No.9780653

>>9770354
Is that her leg? Why is it so big? Seems like it's in the wrong place.

>> No.9780656

>>9780630
He didn't say top shelf excellent single malts silly goose, he said budget scotches.

>> No.9780657

>>9780653
She T H I C C is why its so big.

>> No.9780675

>>9780656
He said they were alright. That's my objection.

>> No.9780687

>>9780572
he’s trollin’ you m8 & you took the b8

>> No.9780688

>>9780675
>inb4 scotch brand pretension

>> No.9780698

>>9780688
It's not pretentious to recognise that grain alcohol blended "scotch" is far from alright.

>> No.9780718

>>9780698
Please enlighten us as to what scotches you would consider budget.

>> No.9780728

>>9780718
I already told you, I'm not disputing the fact that grant's and grouse are budget. I'm disputing the claim that they're anything but low quality piss barely good enough for mixing.

>> No.9780777

>>9780728
I'm asking in earnest, not because I feel the need to defend Famous Grouse or Grants.

I'm a big fan of JW black and green, and currently i'm slowly enjoying a bottle of Lagavulin 16 that I got for father's day.

>> No.9780931

>>9780777
Asking what, exactly?

>> No.9780939

>>9780931
What scotches you approve of and would consider 'budget'.

>> No.9780975

>>9780939
I'm not going to be able to answer that with a full frame of reference if you don't live in the UK. I know scotch is sold at a premium because of import costs in the US so I can't really account for that.

>> No.9781200

>>9779542
I appreciated that thank you anon

>> No.9781506

>>9779542
>>9781200
kek samefag

>> No.9781600

>>9781506
Not the samefag you dumb nigger

>> No.9781785

>>9781600
see >>9780567

>> No.9781823

>>9780384
I'm just giving you my take as I've tried their core range outside of stuff like the Milsean.
The only decent ones are Nectar D'or and 18 but theyre overpriced. The Original has a good nose but the palate is watery and tastes like banana candy and whatever oak flavours exist after being chill filtered and bottled at 40% despite being only 10 years old. It'd be better at 46% or even when they used to do it at 50% it was the bomb. Sadly they went to shit once Moët bought them out.

>> No.9781884

>>9781823
>banana candy
hah.
i think i know that flavor you’re referring to
i always thought it tasted a bit like peaches
i’m having some right now and i’ll admit that it’s not my favorite scotch, but i do like it and the local place had it at $25/bottle so i bought a case

>> No.9782280

Really enjoying Monkey Shoulder at the moment. Anyone else with similar tastes have any recommendations?

>> No.9782303
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>>9781823
It's at 43% in the US so maybe that improves my personal opinion; Quinta Ruban and Lasanta tasted too much like bad perfume to me but Nectar D'Or definitely has something going on

Your other recommendation is interesting and really flew under the radar so I'll have to check it out

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we just got a shower here in the 415
and i just opened this
unremarkable, but nice

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will it be sideways this time???

>> No.9782357

>>9782345
yes, because 4chan automatically purges exif data and image rotation is stored in exif

>> No.9782370

>>9782357
No, your phone is cheap shit and isn't encoding orientation properly.

You can fix it in WIndows Photo Viewer ffs.

>> No.9782419

>>9782370
you're talking shit m8

>> No.9782438

>>9782419
If 4chan stripping EXIF was the problem then literally no image would ever be upright.
/p/ would be completely unusable.
The normalfags in /soc/ rating dick pics would all have strained necks from leaning over sideways.

>> No.9782461

>>9782357
>>9782370
>>9782419
>>9782438
iPhone 7
i tried turning it & removing EXIF data
so.. yea
on my third pour of the GlenDronach
i guess i'm enjoying it, though there's nothing special about it

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>>9781785
Suck a fat cock

>> No.9783974

Where to get a good drinking glass?

>> No.9783981

>>9783974
I got a nice set of lowball glasses from homegoods at a reasonable price

>> No.9784051

>>9783966
are you even old enough to drink/post here?

>> No.9784063

>>9779146
Display means nothing and the bottled-in-bond Old Grand-Dad is practically the same product
Get over yourself

>> No.9784687

>>9781823
Have you tried Signet? It's fantastic.

>> No.9784848

>>9770354
recommend me a nip whiskey
feeling in an exotic mood for my next bottle

>> No.9784959

>>9784848
Kokori is unusual and not crazy expensive

>> No.9784995

>>9783974
Stop by your local outlet stores! I got mine at Burkes Outlet for pretty cheap. They're nice crystal glass.

>> No.9785005

I tried Southern Comfort for the first time last night. I know it's technically not whiskey, but that's what it is in the public eye. It tastes like rotten fruit to me, absolutely heinous.

>> No.9785155

>>9785005
>absolutely heinous
yep

>> No.9785370

>>9770354
Bottle of Dalmore 15 arrived today. 30 quid for a 15 year aged, sherry and oak barrel single malt scotch is good in my book. Anyone got any opinion on Dalmore?

>> No.9785382

>>9785370
yea it’s great. enjoy!

>> No.9785475

>>9773280
Jameson honestly.
But a good runner up is Sexton. A few dollars cheaper but wicked good. Tastes like a plain good Irish whiskey.

>> No.9785610

>>9785370
Dalmore is shit but 30 quid for the 15 is a steal.
Personally I enjoyed the Cigar Malt and their IBs.

>> No.9785618

i bought another bottle of blantons

i really dig the flavor i keep making jerky with it

>> No.9785958

>>9783974
Glencairn, porto, grappa

>> No.9785993

>>9785958
>Where

>> No.9786008

Whats the best rum for making "eggnog"?

>> No.9786009

>>9785993
Well the internet basically, idk where that dude is from. Just google it

>> No.9786011

>>9786008
semen

>> No.9786125

Currently sipping on Aberlour A'bunadh batch 55. Buying a new bottle as soon as the bottle is empty.

>> No.9786425

>>9779869
I'm using an old 750 ml bottle I had. Just left the last few ounces in the bottom and kept adding from there. Took me about 2 years to fill it.

>> No.9786730

>>9783974
im pretty sure Crate and Barrel sell some good quality glencairns. My parents got me a couple last christmas and they are good crystal quality
>>9785618
If you like Blantons go look for Blantons from the barrel or Eagle Rare
>>9786008
decent amber rum like flor de cana
>>9786125
abunadh is my go to sherrybomb, glenlivet nadurra oloroso is good as well if you like confectionery red fruits

>> No.9788506

>>9786730
>glenlivet nadurra oloroso
Yeah dude. I picked up a bottle pretty soon after trying A'bunadh simply because it's made in a similar fashion, i.e. non-chill filtered, cask strength, oloroso cask. It has a sweet liquorice note which I really enjoy.

>> No.9788655

Has anyone here ever tried to introduce others to whisky?

I shared some of my Glenmorangie 18 with my then-girlfriend and she downed it like a shot

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>>9788655
>that one time master blender Richard Paterson served a $6000 scotch to a disinterested TV host and the second she heard the price she sucked her whole glass down without even tasting it

>> No.9788772

>>9788655
Whisky is expensive enough as it is. I don't need more people getting into it.

>> No.9790473

I want to drink mh scotch with a bit of water. What's a good brand of water to use and how much should i use?

Is basic distilled water good enough?

>> No.9790930

>>9790473
Yes, basic distilled water is fine.

>> No.9790933

>>9788655
Why the fuck didn't you tell her to sip it?

>> No.9792206
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9792206

A restaurant/bar managed by an acquaintance of mine had to close suddenly last weekend. He let me take any of the opened liquor that I wanted. R8 my haul?

>> No.9792280

>>9792206
considering all this shit was free does it really matter? enjoy!

>> No.9792377

>>9792206
dump the fireball down the sink

>> No.9792389

>>9792206
Everything is good except wild turkey 81 and fireball.

Good haul my man.

>> No.9793541

>>9792389
WT is fine you uberfag

>> No.9794469

waiting for AAA tow truck having a drink