Secret to a good chili

[Anonymous No.9721205]

I'm making chili tonight. I have all the basic ingredients, but need it to be extra special. Beans or no beans? Beef, chicken, venison, sausage? dark chocolate? Serranos or jalapenos? Tomato paste? Canned tomatos?

[Anonymous No.9721212]

Cinamon and cocoa
T. Chef John

[Anonymous No.9721221]

>Opinions on beans vs. no beans

[Anonymous No.9721232]

>>9721205
>beans or no beans
Definitely beans. Don't overdo it though, kidney and/ or black beans are all you need.
>beef, chicken, venison, sausage?
All of the above. Bison instead of beef, if you can get it. Definitely use stew beef, so you get good chunks of meat to chew on.
>dark chocolate?
No.
>Serrano or jalapeno?
Serranos if you can handle the heat. Jalapenos and habaneros at a minimum.
>Corn or no corn.
Corn.
>Crackers or tortilla chips?
Tortilla chips.

These tips will bring your chili up to the bone zone.

[Anonymous No.9721269]

>>9721205
>beans
I prefer kidney, but it actually depends on the meat. If I'm using hamburger meat, definitely use beans, whatever type is fine. If I'm using beef shoulder or a nice cut of meet, no beans and serve with Spanish rice as a side.
>dark chocolate
never heard of this meme but sounds interesting
>peppers
I think most people would prefer serrano for the pepper flavor, but be careful on the heat tolerance of your guests.
>tomato
I use diced with hamburger, diced and paste with nicer cuts of meat.

Frying diced onions and minced garlic with chorizo is also a good addition.

[Anonymous No.9721279]

Good chili powder, make your own

[Anonymous No.9721280]

no meat,
beans
ginger
carrots
lentils
peas
tomato paste

[Anonymous No.9721282]

>>9721205
H A B A N E R O S

[Anonymous No.9721289]

>>9721269
Oh yeah, if you do happen to make your chili too hot, serve with sour cream.

[Anonymous No.9721292]

I just made a batch last night since I was grinding meet for sausage. I used 70% venison, 30% pork shoulder. I simmered a mix of dried peppers (guajillo, arbol, new mexican, ancho and chipotle) until hydrated and tender and blended them with some home canned roma tomatoes. Toasted and ground some cumin and coriander seed. Browned my meat in 2 batches, sauteed some onion, garlic a couple jalapenos and a habanero, added meat and pepper blend and some beef broth. Simmered for 3 hours. Added some pintos I'd cooked separately in a pressure cooker and simmered for 1 more hour. It was pretty damn good.

[Anonymous No.9721296]

add beans
add corn kernels
add canned tomatoes
use ground turkey
add peas

[Anonymous No.9721301]

What's the verdict on sugar?

[Anonymous No.9721322]

>>9721301

A little brown sugar, why not

[Anonymous No.9721331]

>>9721301

use honey or agave syrup
1 cup is enough

[Anonymous No.9721337]

>>9721331
>1 cup is enough
>1 cup
Jesus Christ, how many gallons do you make at a time or do you just like making desert?

[Anonymous No.9721349]

>>9721205
>Serranos or jalapenos?

The peppers at my grocery store are shit, I just use dried hot pepper flakes.

And I expect to shit on a bit for this, but I don't use meat in my chili, just lots of beans. Or sometimes I use veggie ground round. I am trying to lose weight (6'1, 240lbs, down from 260 a couple of months ago)

[Anonymous No.9721352]

>>9721205

Dried chiles, i.e. ancho, will add great depth and subtlety to your chili, anon.

[Anonymous No.9721354]

simmer off a can of red ale. Also a teaspoon or two of Marmite if you can get it it's an umeme flavour multiplier

[Anonymous No.9721374]

Beans should be served on the side, if at all. They always get overcooked in the chili and they are literal pleb filler tier trash even cooked properly

[Anonymous No.9721380]

>>9721374

how about you add them into the chili just a bit before serving so that they don't mush up too much

>>9721301

no sugar

[Anonymous No.9721398]

>>9721380

Also acceptable. My problem is I like beans when cooked properly by themselves or in a classic fashion (Brazilian style black beans w sausage) but almost every time I have beans in chili it tastes chalky and gross.

[Anonymous No.9721423]

>>9721205
some things just improve any hearty stew:
>fishsauce
>soysauce
>chicken/dried shitake/kelp broth
>korean soybeanpaste/miso
>butter stirred in before serving

everything besides a good broth can be tinkered with at the end, if you are unsure about those flavours experiment with a tiny amount once the cooking is almost done

[Anonymous No.9721431]

Throw in a marrow bone. If im making venison chili ill crack a femur in half and toss it in, or you can use beef bones for osso bucco from the grocery store.

[Anonymous No.9721446]

>>9721280
fag

[Anonymous No.9721471]

I just dump random shit into my chili every time to see what works the best, it's completely different most of the time but has never completely failed flavor-wise.
A heavy tomato flavor is nice, I like a few cans of the Goya tomato sauce with peppers in it, then whatever hot sauce I have on hand to give it a bit of heat, then cheese and saltines once it's actually done.
Beer has yielded mixed results so I don't do it anymore. Corn leads to textural clash and can be too sweet.

[Anonymous No.9721484]

[Anonymous No.9721552]

Chili should not have beans. If you add beans, you are making a stew, no chili.

[Anonymous No.9721570]

>>9721552
Nah it's still chili, go fuck yourself Texas.

[Anonymous No.9721574]

>>9721552
A big bowl of spaghetti sause, please.

[Anonymous No.9721677]

>>9721205
Dark chocolate is a surprisingly good addition if you have enough spices to balance it out.

[Anonymous No.9721708]

Dark chocolate (90% cocoa), a squeeze of lime at the end and chipotle flakes

[Anonymous No.9721748]

>>9721205
Minced Meat
Onions
Canned Tomatoes
Black Pepper
BBQ Sauce
Hot Sauce

It's delicious

[Anonymous No.9721770]

pour a fucking can of Guinness in that bitch

[Anonymous No.9721886]

>>9721770
dont do that

[Anonymous No.9721903]

>>9721221
Beans don't belong in chili

[Anonymous No.9721912]

>>9721903
Fuck off back to the septic drainage field of the US, texasfag.

[Anonymous No.9721918]

>>9721205
Nice thread just made mine tonight. I had beans,mincem,onions,garlic,chili in various forms. R8

[Anonymous No.9721919]

>>9721205
>Serranos or jalapenos?
Neither. Use dried and rehydrate them, then blend them into a paste with your herbs. Arbol and ancho are good, as are pequin.

[Anonymous No.9721923]

>>9721205
Go to your local Mexican grocery and get a bunch of dried chiles and make your own powder.
Guajillos, Cascabels, Ancho, Chipotles and ones you've never heard of.
Grind them up and add them to the frying meat/veggies to amp up the flavor.

[Anonymous No.9721924]

>>9721770
An Irish red would be better.

[Anonymous No.9721928]

Enjoy your plebian taste

[Anonymous No.9721929]

>>9721205
>beans
>beef or venison
>cocoa
>brown sugar
>chile powder + cumin
>canned tomatoes
>tomato juice
>serranos
>little bit of red wine vinegar as a finishing touch

[Anonymous No.9721934]

>>9721918
I feel like you must have had to really try to take such a bad picture.

[Anonymous No.9721940]

I made this last week: http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/01/the-best-chili-recipe.html

and it was really good. you don't have to go as crazy as Kenji (i used cheaper beef, more common peppers) but his concept of a concentrated chili base is really good.

[Anonymous No.9721942]

Beans. Without them it's beef and pepper water. Also, cook plenty of finely diced or minced onion and cook until they've essentially dissolved.

Garlic and tomato is an essential as well. Green bell pepper can be added towards the end for further variance in taste and texture. Don't get beef with a lot of connective tissue, no-one likes a chewy stew or soup.

If you really want it to look rustic or wild, grow a little onion-grass. Just be careful about the lawn-stuff. Good way to get a tapeworm.

[Anonymous No.9721961]

>>9721942
>Don't get beef with a lot of connective tissue
isn't the point of chili to simmer it on low for long time?

[Anonymous No.9721967]

>>9721940
I think Kenji Lopez-Alt is annoying as fuck, but his chili recipe really is fantastic.

[Anonymous No.9721973]

>>9721961
Fat or collagen is fine. Fuck your tendons if you don't know how to scrape meat off them.

[Anonymous No.9722000]

I really like Alton Brown's pressure cooker chili recipe

1 pound beef chunks
1 pound pork chunks
1 pound lamb chunks
1 jar of your favorite salsa
1 bottle of your favorite ale
30 crushed up tortilla chips
2 canned chipotle peppers and a bit of the sauce
1 tablespoon tomato paste
1 tablespoon chili powder
1 teaspoon cumin

Sear off the meat, dump everything in and pressure cooker for like half an hour. If you don't have a pressure cooker you can use a dutch oven and cook it in the oven low and slow.

[Anonymous No.9722001]

>>9721331
>>9721296

btw these were joke posts

don't take this advice

[Anonymous No.9722136]

>>9721269

>careful of the heat tolerance of your guests

Even more reason not to have guests

[Anonymous No.9722146]

>>9721282
>>9721282

I mean sure if you want it to taste like habaneros. I dunno who would want that, habaneros are awful tasting once you get past the spice.

If you want it to be spicy use one of those capcaisin extract eyedroppers. Doesn't ruin the flavor.

[Anonymous No.9722211]

>>9721942
Don't add garlic to chilli. Good chilli doesn't need a garlic flavor added to it.

[Anonymous No.9722246]

I know not to add water to chilli when you can add other liquids. The question is what are the best liquids to add. Does using beer over stock make a big difference? If you add beer what is a good beer to add or does it matter? If you are adding tomato juice is there a reason to add tomatoes? Should you add some of each(stock, beer, & tomato juice)?

[Anonymous No.9722269]

>>9721349
>trying to lose weight by not eating meat
How about just don't eat as much, fatass? You fags act like weight loss is some unknowable black magic, just count calories and stop stuffing your face, fuck

[Anonymous No.9722284]

>>9721903
>>9721912
I don't understand this meme. If someone doesn't like beans in chili why does it cause so much conflict? I seen the same anger towards people who like beans in chili. Is the whole concept from both sides a meme or do people truly get this upset by it.

[Anonymous No.9722288]

beans go into chili
people that say no beans in chili don't actually have a good reason other than "it just aint right yall"

they have a good flavor, they absorb what they are cooked in, and they naturally thicken it. There is NO, I repeat ZERO legitimate reasons to not put beans in there

[Anonymous No.9722300]

>>9721205
you didnt mention beer. don't know if anyone else did.

[Anonymous No.9722302]

>>9721205
Beer.

[Anonymous No.9722304]

>>9721280
puree, pour into a turkey baster. insert in rectum. plunge in and out, then release fluid into rectum. winning.

[Anonymous No.9722325]

>>9721929
I did this and added beef stock (no venison)
And instead of serrano chorizo
Eggs
Jalapenos
And a shitload of cheese topping

[Anonymous No.9722330]

Dark chocolate
Kidney beans
Lentils
Canned whole tomatoes AND tomato paste
Beef mince

[Anonymous No.9722332]

No beans, real dried chilies.

[Anonymous No.9722335]

>>9722288

>dump in a pound of crap ingredient cause absorb da flavor and make it thick
literally kill yourself you giant faggot, beans get cooked separately just until they're done, then you pour chili over that or pasta or rice.

[Anonymous No.9722338]

>>9721903
You don't belong among the living

[Anonymous No.9722349]

>>9722335
beans taste good

[Anonymous No.9722358]

>>9722338
Do it fag

[Anonymous No.9722376]

>>9722349
So does ice cream doesn't mean you should put it in chili.

[Anonymous No.9722378]

>>9721205
Cinnamon, brown sugar, and lime.

[Anonymous No.9722448]

>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/stew-roids-arm-wrasslin-hillbilly-style.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2017/08/hillbilly-chili-hacks-backwoods.html?zx=1e9ca8063cd4451d

[Anonymous No.9722490]

>people bitching about beans but it's okay to cook them and rice separately
Kill me, just expect a fight.

[Anonymous No.9722492]

>>9722269
Suck my fat dick

[Anonymous No.9722548]

>>9722284
It's the same Hegelian shit on all fronts now in the US. Someone promotes beans in chili; the texasfag sperges that it's a sacreligious sin and abomination to god; some mealy mouthed middle of the roader comes along and rationally argues if you like beans add them and if you don't, don't. It's the tired old tribalism of thesis-antithesis-synthesis.

[Anonymous No.9722556]

>>9722358
Death's too quick a punishment. I'll merely put beans in all of the chili you make for the rest of your life

[Anonymous No.9722567]

>>9721903
This. I don't know why anybody would want to ruin a delicious pot of chili with flavorless lumps of ass texture.

[Anonymous No.9722629]

>>9722146
Bad taste detected, habaneros are a perfect blend of heat and sweet.

[Anonymous No.9722679]

>>9722490

>won't even reply to the post he's referring to
fag

[Anonymous No.9722690]

>>9722548

More like, people love beans in chili because most dads are jack cooking tier and that's what they're used to. People who actually know chili either don't like beans or treat them as a base for chili rather than an ingredient to the chili itself.

[Anonymous No.9722699]

>>9722629
>>9722146
you're both right and you're both wrong

a good batch of habs, with the placenta and seeds removed, is really nice

but they can be too hot sometimes and most "chili heads" are too stupid to undrestand that you're supposed to remove the placenta and seeds

[Anonymous No.9722714]

>>9722690
With good chili, the bland flavor and Styrofoam texture of beans just drags it down. I feel like beans just gained popularity and became associated with chili because beans are dirt cheap and they're filling. In turn, poor people would substitute beans for some of the meat to make the meal filling and cheaper. I don't know the validity of this, but it's my best guess as to why people associate the two.

[Anonymous No.9722741]

>>9721205
I have this GREAT cookbook, and it is kinda weird because it was actually published by Phillip Morris. It's a Marlboro Cookbook called "Morning Fires, Evening Lights". Also it serves 6-8 so I don't know why they call it that. Seems perfect for /ck/ tho.

[Anonymous No.9722748]

Half a pound each beef, veal, and pork
2 cans of San marzano tomato's some finely diced carrot and cilantro and kidney beans

Let simmer over night then salt to taste

[Anonymous No.9722760]

>>9722748
Also don't forget a whole big white onion and half a head of garlic minced as fine as you can. And a pinch of smoked paprika goes a long way

[Anonymous No.9722765]

my whole life revolves around eating beans. I got hundreds of pounds of dried beans in storage. It is the perfect food.

[Anonymous No.9722799]

>>9722690
>>9722714
Holy shit you Texas turds really suck at validating your point. Is your meaty pepper water causing you to have painfully obstructed bowels?

[Anonymous No.9722811]

>>9721292

That sounds good as hell.

[Anonymous No.9722813]

>>9722741
That's just spicy beef soup
Where's are the tomatoes?

[Anonymous No.9722816]

>>9722799
I don't even live in Texas. Beans are a shit food. They are pure sustenance and typically contribute nothing to the meal. Yes, there are some food items where they can contribute more, but for the most part people just add them to take up room and make something appear more wholesome than it actually is.

[Anonymous No.9722821]

>>9721212

this is actually really good if you don't overdo it

[Anonymous No.9722822]

>>9721205
yes
>dried chilis
>cubed chuck
>whole onion (diced)
>garlic (a bunch, minced)
>cumin
>other mexican-ish spices like cloves, cinnamon, allspice, etc. (mind your flavour profile)
>beer
>brown sugar
>masa harina

ok but be careful
>cinnamon
>coffee
>chocolate (dark or cocoa powder)
>molasses
>bacon

fuck no
>beans
>tomatoes
>corn
>excessive liquid
>visible chunks of vegetables

keep in mind this is for Texas-style chili, which is more or less a THICC-ass porridge made out of meat

if you want vegetables and broth and shit you're better off making a stew

also, let it simmer forever and taste it once an hour, adjusting as you go

[Anonymous No.9722829]

>>9722822
That's just flavoured meat, not chili

[Anonymous No.9722841]

>>9722816
There it is, the dumbest post I have ever read on /ck/

[Anonymous No.9722843]

>>9721570
Actual texans, not chili competition spice-drones, eat chili with beans just fine. Only trolls and fools actually hate beans. Preferences for or against, sure, but not this rage.

[Anonymous No.9722847]

>>9722829
sure, but that is still widely known as chili in a very large state

[Anonymous No.9722858]

>>9721205
anyone add chipotles in adobo?

gonna make some tomorrow probably

[Anonymous No.9722860]

>>9722822
Once when I was a kid my dad accidentally added cinnamon thinking it was chili powder. It tasted like candied asshole.

[Anonymous No.9722863]

>>9722548
Thesis-antithesis-synthesis is Fichte not Hegel you pseud. GTFO

[Anonymous No.9722872]

>>9722858
Yep, they are great in chili. Adds smokiness and color. I recommend pan frying it a little before you add to the pot, helps bring out the richness of the adobo.

[Anonymous No.9722877]

>>9722847
I can get down with the sllooowwww-cooked beefchunks in rich spicegravy and I can get down with the shredded or even ground beef with a tomato-influenced sauce, peppers, onions, even beans whipped up in an hour or so on a weekday night.

Don't hate. Embrace flavor in all the spectrums.

[Anonymous No.9722878]

>>9722858
yeah but keep it to like a can or less or the whole thing is gonna taste like adobo

[Anonymous No.9723150]

>1 tsp nutmeg
> 2 tbs smoked paprika
>1 tsp of cumin
>shit ton of chilli powder
>a smoking rub of some sort(1 1/2 tbs)
>lee perriogne for body
>using the right beans
>serranos(1 full and 1 seeded)
>1 big or medium onion, 3 cloves of garlic, 1 green bell, 1 yellow or orange bell( all sauteed lightly)
>half pound hot andoullie
>1lb of good beef or bison
>1 can of whole roasted tomatos, heated up and smashed
>2 cans crushed fire roasted tomatos
>2 cups red wine of choice
>1 can tomato paste
>salt, pepper

Cook it all day on low, 3/4 covered

[Anonymous No.9723598]

vegan
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[Anonymous No.9724444]

put a little coffee powder

[Anonymous No.9724482]

I can't tell if /ck/ ACTUALLY wants beans in chili or if they're being contrarian faggots. I just can't imagine beans in chili. It feels alien.

[Anonymous No.9724635]

I don't get how people can make "chili" that only has maybe 2 tablespoons of chili powder in a gallon of other ingredients. it's like those shitty alfredo sauce jars they have at the store where the first two ingredients are water and soybean oil.

[Anonymous No.9724660]

>>9721301
I add chocolate to balance some of the flavor. Just a bit though.

[Anonymous No.9724668]

>>9724482
I can't tell if you ACTUALLY want meat-water, or are a faggot.

'Mah ancient south-american traditions,' does not make a good recipe. Go ahead and sacrifice some llamas and a couple of people before making your primitive soup.

[Anonymous No.9724674]

>>9722765

[Anonymous No.9726324]

In my experience,the chilli always tastes best on day 2. So if you want the most intense taste,you might want to start cooking a day before and let it rest for some time.
My old roommate also added a little bit of a good single malt whisky to his chillies,it added a nice little nuance.
The dark chocolate seems well known,I was suprised how good it tasted when I first had chilli with some chocoloate.

[Anonymous No.9726489]

N O B E A N S
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[Anonymous No.9726564]

Whenever my dad makes chili he throws a quarter in the pot and takes it out before serving.

Best chili ever.

[Anonymous No.9726591]

>>9721301
God I hate Americans. I’m American btw.

[Anonymous No.9726823]

beans+chili=stew
NOT CHILI
Take a lesson, inferior states.

[Anonymous No.9726853]

>>9726823
>>9726489
I hope Texas gets sold to the mexican drug cartel, no one likes you.

[Anonymous No.9726863]

>>9721221
The earliest mention of chili in San Antonio specifically states it had beans in it...

[Anonymous No.9726886]

>>9726853
We unironically should give it back to mexico. You know how sometimes you buy something and realize you didn't even want it in the first place and it's just useless clutter so you return it for a refund? That's how the US views TX.

[Anonymous No.9726913]

>>9722000
That sounds like some shit a couple of fratboys would concoct on the weekend.

Pure trash.

[Anonymous No.9726921]

>>9722146
>habaneros are awful tasting
Habaneros add a delicious, firey, citrus flavor to any dish.

They are the perfect combination of heat and flavor wrapped up in a single pepper.

[Anonymous No.9726933]

>>9721205
pinto beans, chili powder, serrano/jalapeño, and a tiny can of tomato paste, and you better fucking cook it in a cast iron pot over a campfire

[Anonymous No.9727156]

Lime, 5 kinds of beans, red lentils, cocoa or dark chocolate, onion, honey, long red pepper, fresh habanero, ground cumin, coriander, smoked paprika, black pepper and salt. Canned and fresh tomatoes.

If you want meat don't get pre-ground meat or turkey. A third finely diced pork and two thirds diced beef works well. Cook everything but the beans for several hours, add the beans 30 mins before serving.

[Anonymous No.9728259]

>>9721280
you forgot shit puree