/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.9647426]

Why do most people view cooking as a hassle?

I find it to be one of the most pleasurable things in my day-to-day life.

[Anonymous No.9647430]

>>9647426
Cooking is pleasurable. Washing the dishes is a hassle.

[Anonymous No.9647432]

>>9647426
They have sex and a social life.

[Anonymous No.9647434]

>>9647426
I have a roommate that cooks all her meals for 2 weeks and freezes them, noodles or rice and all. It's disgusting that she is too lazy to actually cook ok food on a daily basis.She works at a counter, she's not a busy person outside work. Its kinda sad.

[Anonymous No.9647463]

>>9647434
Good idea

[Anonymous No.9647464]

>>9647426
Cleaning up afterwards. I like to cook and then eat. Not so much the cleaning of pots and pans.

[Anonymous No.9647471]

>>9647426
I love eating and enjoy cooking. I just hate the clean up that comes with it cause I don't have a dishwasher.

[Anonymous No.9647487]

>>9647464
>>9647471
Unless you're burning the fuck out of your food, cleanup should be easy. You can even do 90% of the cleaning while you cook, too, and the other 10% while you let your food sit.

It's really not that hard.

[Anonymous No.9647492]

The problem with cooking is that even if you follow online recipes, your dish could come out wrong and weird tasting due to a number of factors (bad recipe with fawning reviews, subbing crucial ingredients, not knowing certain key techniques that may make a big difference, using the wrong equipment, etc.) Some people aim too big when they are starting to cook and fuck it up. Trial and error can get expensive and frustrating when you are hungry too.

Plus stocking ingredients can be wasteful if you don't use them up, especially fresh ones, and cleaning up sucks.

The thing is, over time you learn better techniques and practices, but many give up after a few failed dishes because they think they suck or it just seems way too much hassle over getting to-go or frozen food.

[Anonymous No.9647507]

You are simply not depressed enough yet OP. Give it a few years and you will take no joy in cooking or eating at all. You just want to get eating out of the way so you can go back to wallowing in your misery until you go to sleep. Or at the very least go to bed and lay awake for 5 hours lamenting every choice you have ever made.

[Anonymous No.9647514]

>>9647507
I actually did have depression and taking up cooking as a hobby helped me out of it

[Anonymous No.9647524]

>>9647434
at least she cooks her own meals, not sure how many people still do that (as opposed to eating Budget Gourmet type frozen dinners, or fast food). Not sad at all, takes a lot of effort to set up your meals, but maybe she just needs to learn how to cook small meals quickly.

[Anonymous No.9647534]

>>9647487
Thissss
There is nothing hard about buying ingredients cooking and cleaning for yourself everyday without it taking up a lot of time. You are just fucking lazy.

[Anonymous No.9647564]

Cooking is a fucking chore, takes fucking time, and makes a fucking mess.
Cleaning is a fucking chore, takes fucking time, and only delays the inevitable fucking mess.

Only reason anyone subjects themselves to this bullshit is because they're not yet dead enough inside to subsist on gruel.

[Anonymous No.9647572]

>>9647564
What exactly is it taking time away from?

Sportsball? Porn? Video games? Talmudvision?

[Anonymous No.9647583]

>>9647572
Takes time away from not performing a rote fucking chore and making a big fucking mess.

[Anonymous No.9647584]

>>9647583
So all of the above then

[Anonymous No.9647586]

>>9647426
because it is a hassle. i want to eat not cook. cooking is something that i HAVE to do. also everything i make tastes worse than expected so why bother. but the real kicker is that the amount of effort i put into making a dish has no bearing on the outcome. if i follow a recipe to the letter it comes out similar to shit that i just threw into a stove and guessed everything. also nowadays ive gotten tired of eating as well its a chore and i do it because i have to

[Anonymous No.9647789]

>>9647430
>t. single nu-male

[Anonymous No.9647799]

>>9647434
Are you a girl?

[Anonymous No.9647610]

>>9647586
Do you not taste it as you cook it?

I always have a spoon next to what I'm cooking

>Its somewhat bland, add some salt and pepper
>It could use a fresher taste, add some Italian Herbs/Herbs D'Provence
>I want a smoother mouth feel, add some cumin
>Not substantial enough, add some garlic and onions
>Needs some sweetness, add some butter
>Needs some candy sweetness, add some brown sugar

How are you supposed to make good food if you don't taste it?

[Anonymous No.9647617]

>>9647586
Why are you even on this board when you are such a terrible cook?

[Anonymous No.9647618]

Literally the only thing I enjoy in life right now, and I hardly do it because I don't have anyone to cook for anymore and don't want to eat myself to death. Though I put in about a two year start on that anyway.

[Anonymous No.9647627]

>>9647610
because i should be able to follow a recipe to the letter and get a good output. so i dont bother tasting if i follow a recipe. even if im tasting something while it cooks i dont know what to put in i just know that its missing something. everything i make is missing something.

>>9647617
because there was a period in my life where i wanted to make good food. nowadays im here for interesting stories, memes and al/ck/

[Anonymous No.9647634]

>>9647426
Because a sizable portion of people are intimidated by kitchen appliances and think cooking is like wizardry

[Anonymous No.9647652]

>>9647627
So you can't even cook? You're fucking cancer. And following the recipe to the letter? Lmao, unless you're baking, then you're a goddamn idiot.

[Anonymous No.9647655]

>>9647492
I'm always surprised by the number of people who insist they're bad at cooking. They don't believe me when I say that it's a matter of experience and choosing good recipes.

[Anonymous No.9647668]

>>9647652
ok kid

[Anonymous No.9647674]

>>9647627
Unfortunately, that's now how it works. Cooking isn't baking. Baking is a science, so having the correct amount of ingredients is all you need.

Everyone's taste buds are different. A lot of ingredients are different too. The freshness, whether something is organic or not changes the taste. The heat of your cook surface may effect the caramelization.

I made Bolognese sauce the other weekend. It wasn't great tasting. Maybe it was bad. But then I realized that I hadn't even really had real bolognese before, so I wasn't sure what it was supposed to taste like in the first place.

Once you realize you can make things that taste good on your own, you'll like cooking a lot more.

[Anonymous No.9648153]

>>9647426
I find it pleasurable too, but only if I have the space and possibility to cook and prepare freely. Sadly, my kitchen is small and lacking. Most people who don't like cooking probably have a similar kitchen. Whenever I need something, I need to make room for it and/or dig it out of a cabinet. This is the hassle, and it takes the fun out of the whole cooking process, so I tend to make the same old basic things to avoid that hassle.

[Anonymous No.9648177]

>>9647799

[Anonymous No.9648233]

>>9647426
Its boring require a ton of standing, actual attention, a ton of time, cleaning, preparing, a whole bunch of shit.

[Anonymous No.9648234]

>>9647674
>Once you realize you can make things that taste good on your own, you'll like cooking a lot more.
yeah this is a step that i was never able to reach. maybe i'll get the drive to try again in the future.

[Anonymous No.9648282]

>>9647487
It's not that hard, but for me I find that I'm just not in the mood to clean up right after I eat dinner. I just want to sit feeling full and wind down for bed. Not do menial labour.

[Anonymous No.9648295]

1. For me it's the cleaning up but I still cook 2-3 times a week
2. It's mostly normies who think cooking is a hassle, and teenagers or teenager-minded people. I think it's because they can't show off that much on social media with it. Cool people only go out to eat, and God forbid if you're a dude an you bake every once in a while. Whoever came up with this retarded social norms should be put lined up against a wall

The best setup would be to have a wife that would do the cleanup while I do the cooking desu

[Anonymous No.9648299]

I too find cooking a joy.
Honestly is the highlight of my day when I come home to being able to chuck this in the microwave for 2 minutes.

[Anonymous No.9648305]

>>9647432
* They have a Facebook and subpar sex

[Anonymous No.9648313]

>>9647627
>because i should be able to follow a recipe to the letter and get a good output
do you have autism?

[Anonymous No.9648344]

because to most people its just a set of actions they are required to perform, not something they want to become better at.

[Anonymous No.9648348]

>>9648313
whats the point of a recipe if you have to add your own unique twists to make it good? sure if you are experienced then you can do whatever you want and it will probably turn out well. ive tried tons of popular recipes and nothing just seemed to work. did i choose the wrong ones somehow?

[Anonymous No.9648411]

>>9648348
>did i choose the wrong ones somehow?
anyone can post recipes onlline, people do it ffor attention. No matter how shit it is. here is one that I have tried out numerous times myself, it cant be fucked up, its cheap, healthy and nutritious, it ann be made in large batches and ca be frozen for later too. I use only half the amount of rice though.
http://www.grouprecipes.com/73215/arroz-de-tomate-e-feijao---rice-with-tomato-and-beans.html

[Anonymous No.9648420]

>>9647426
Non-cooking board tourist here.
Because it's time consuming and ideally you should do it 3 fucking times a day. That's a lot of time taken out of other things I want to do more.
That aside cooking requires to shop for fresh ingredients more often than I care to go for groceries.
Also lots of people live alone and don't enjoy cooking for themselves alone, and you can't exactly invite people to dinner every day.

All in all I enjoy cooking and good food, just not enough to do it regularly.

[Anonymous No.9648550]

>>9647492
>Bad received with morons who give it a good review
This is why you look for a couple blogs or YouTube channels you know have good recipes and try to stick to them as much as possible
Plus if someone tries a recipe and it's shit he sure as hell will leave a nasty review so pay attention to that
>Subbing ingredients
Don't do this
>Not knowing techniques
Stick to the easier recipes then
>Using the wrong equipment
Very unlikely

The real reason you screw up a recipe is because you don't know what you are doing and you do something wrong (there are a million ways to fuck up), you solve that by cooking long enough that you learn what you where doing wrong and get better

[Anonymous No.9648557]

>>9647426
For me I hate the buying groceries part. If I had all the ingredients I'd be glad to cook anything.

[Anonymous No.9648580]

>>9647627
No, follow the recipe doesn't mean it should come out good if you don't know how to cook, stick to the absolute basics for now, you are clearly trying things you have no idea how to make

[Anonymous No.9648587]

>Following recipes instead of just looking at what the food is made of

[Anonymous No.9648592]

>>9648550
I couldn't cook eggs for the longest time but then I bought a fancy pan and I cook them perfectly everyday. Cooking without equipment that can hold a stable temperature is a losing game

[Anonymous No.9648593]

>>9648153
My dad had to basically rebuild his kitchen, for a year all he had to cook with was a hot plate, a microwave and a toaster oven he stacked into a totem because he didn't have any space for them, it never stopped him for cooking, I have seen him try to boil things on that shitty hot plate Wich doesn't reach high enough temperatures to boil water, it looked like torture

[Anonymous No.9648597]

>>9647426
My problem was the old electric stove I had. It's true - you need a gas stove if you want to even remotely engage in cooking.

[Anonymous No.9648599]

If you enjoy cooking you don't belong on /ck/
>t. faggot who likes cooking so doesn't belong here

[Anonymous No.9648611]

>>9648592
When I started cooking I absolutely fucked up my pan because I was an idiot and had no idea what I was doing with it, then I fucked up everything I tried to make with it
Unless you are using broken shit you shouldn't have difficulty cooking an egg

[Anonymous No.9648623]

>>9647426
Think of everything you enjoy that you could be doing instead of cooking. If there's nothing else you could be doing that you would enjoy more, congratulations. For most people though, cooking and in fact just having to eat is a hassle.

[Anonymous No.9648633]

>>9647426
>like cooking
>even like cleaning up

I find both aspects very relaxing, but maybe it is just because when I get home from the worst job on earth, anything seems pleasurable by comparison.

[Anonymous No.9648641]

>>9647426
to get good at cooking you have to do it a lot, in the beginning you're terribly inefficient, dirty and the food doesn't always end up good anyway

[Anonymous No.9648643]

>>9647586
>cooking is something that i HAVE to do
This.
I have crohn's disease, so I can't eat 99.99% of anything pre-prepared because it contains things that no-one even thinks about that have a non-zero chance of causing me to die in agony from internal bleeding.
I HAVE to cook, because otherwise I would starve.
And just to make it even more fun the only things I can eat that don't make me ill are bland and uninteresting, so I don't even have the pleasure of eating it.
And you still have to tidy shit up afterwards.

I used to like being in the kitchen. But the magic has gone now, replaced by chores to be gotten out of the way as quickly as possible.

>>9648623
>cooking and in fact just having to eat is a hassle
Being made of meat is fucking tedious tbqh.

[Anonymous No.9648673]

>>9648623
Realistically though:
>I just don't have time to cook
>spends 2 hours watching netflix

[Anonymous No.9648676]

>>9647432
>They have anime to watch and h-manga to fap to
FTFY

[Anonymous No.9648693]

>>9648673
It's almost like we live in a leisure society and people prioritize what they enjoy. Some people see cooking as leisure, some don't.

[Anonymous No.9648695]

>>9647426

i have a very autistic OCD when it comes to cooking

either stay there and cook it right and realize its going to be 30 minutes

or cook something right that i can do quickly, like my normal baked thighs and mash

or something even cheaper and quicker


but i absolutely HATE relying on someone doing situation A and then half assing it, not stirring the pasta so it sticks

or not preheating the oven enough

or taking the food out "at the exact time of directions" but not actually checking it with a thermometer

[Anonymous No.9648699]

>>9648592

wtf?

they teach that day 1 in HS cooking class

you literally just fucking pour it in and stir it, its easy

[Anonymous No.9648730]

>>9647674
yep, but cooking at a hier level is also about knowing the effects of the heat and how to apply it and the combination of flavors and textures.
the best examples is making a roux or just trying onion in a pan. you can get a huge variety of flavors and textures depending how hot, how long and what spices you add. resting meat, washing rice or not, way kind of rice to use, brining meats, adding things fast or slow, cold or hot...
I've been watching food wars too much

[Anonymous No.9648748]

>>9648695
You sound a lot like me as I also have a mild case of ocd, and I feel it does benefit my cooking. Also the more I see how the majority of people in there 20’s (and beyond) have no idea how to cook makes me thankful my first job was in a kitchen. Though my career is not at all culinary related I have learned things I can’t imagine I would have any other way that I will utilize for a lifetime. Something I’d be happy to pass along to my children, should I have any. I remember starting as a dishwasher thinking holy shit I could never do what those guys are doing. It seemed so out of reach. Few years later and i’m putting out better food than the lot of em while working alongside the head chef as a production manager. Early is on time. Never call off. and be reliable. I’ve learned not to underestimate myself. You can do a lot more than you realize if you put your mind to it anons

[Anonymous No.9648750]

>>9647426
If you aren't familiar with it, it can be daunting. Seeing celebrity chefs make absurd dishes with expensive ingredients picked and caught fresh also makes it scary, when you can accomplish the same thing with off-season argentianian produce and frozen white fish from the local chinese grocer. People tend to follow recipes, and it's a big showstopper when something calls for bullshit like creme du tatar or fleur de sel or whatever for a basic-looking pastry or slice of fried meat.

Another common complaint is time, which is probably the most valid complaint. If you haven't worked in a restaurant before and seen what prep work is actually like, it seems silly to prepare stuff in advance without going whole hog like >>9647434 describes and cooking stuff entirely in advance, but cooking stuff in advance usually results in shitty product. A lot of people don't realize that there's a middle ground between, say, using just-add-water pancake mix and making 900 pancakes and storing them in your freezer.

>>9647507
>>9647514
2bh when I'm depressed, I too subsist mostly on frozen pizzas and pub grub. I find being able to cook for myself is a sign of recovery more than a recovery method.

>>9647674
>Baking is a science,
shit meme. baking is just as much a science as cooking. "bbbut muh leavening reactions" m8 I have never measured out my baking powder or soda since I was a kid and my cookies and pancakes et al always turn out fine. You probably need to know more about :^) Le Science :^) to make a good soup that isn't just "water with stuff in it" 2bh, and simmering stuff down to make sauces or successfully frying stuff without getting it too greasy is closer to lab tech work than following a cake recipe.

[Anonymous No.9648751]

>>9648699
>stirring eggs

[Anonymous No.9648757]

>>9647487
It's not hard, I'm just extremely lazy and don't want to clean after eating

[Anonymous No.9648765]

>>9648299

[Anonymous No.9648771]

>>9648750
>A lot of people don't realize that there's a middle ground between, say, using just-add-water pancake mix and making 900 pancakes and storing them in your freezer.
I think you underestimate just how little time regular people have every day to do these kinds of things. There's no fucking time to cook fresh food every single day, because fresh food isn't just about the 15 minute act of applying heat.

Fresh food is about driving to the grocery store or the market and buying ingredients that aren't rotten. Fresh food is about cleaning up the entire kitchen every single meal because there's only a few hours until the next meal where you need to do it all over again. Fresh food is about having the pure raw leisure time to research and experiment with new recipes. People who work for a living do not have time to do all of that unless that is literally the ONLY thing they do outside of work every waking moment.

[Anonymous No.9648786]

>>9647430
I usually don't wash anything unless the squeamish bf is coming over.

[Anonymous No.9648788]

>>9648750
Of all the things people want to skip the preparation for something like, for example, pancakes is the most ridiculous. They're so simple to prepare they're basically on the level of "add water to the mixture". Making mayonnaise at least requires some know-how or your liquids will separate.

[Anonymous No.9648792]

>>9648751

yes, get a spatula, pour in the eggs and just keep moving them around until the liquid is gone

[Anonymous No.9648796]

>>9648699
my highschool didn't have cooking or home ec

[Anonymous No.9648797]

>>9648792
You fucking IDIOT.

[Anonymous No.9648801]

>>9648751
you mean the necessary step to make scrambled eggs? yeah, craaaazy.

[Anonymous No.9648804]

>>9648797

nobody has time for that bullshit just scramble them

[Anonymous No.9648805]

>>9648797
>implying that's the only way to make eggs

[Anonymous No.9648810]

>>9648804
Scrambled is actually far more technical to get right if you don't want to eat rubber. They do come in a lot more variants and approaches, though. Steamed scrambled eggs drenched in butter, for example, take fucking forever to make.

[Anonymous No.9648812]

>>9648771
>What is canned vegetables.
It takes half an hour to boil up a pot of pasta and added jarred sauce. It takes an hour to make a big pot of soup.

If people can't spare the equivalent of a Walking Dead episode, they're either overscheduled or have disordered priorities (basically the same thing). There's no time? That's because that thing isn't a priority, so time isn't getting made for it.

[Anonymous No.9648815]

>>9648812
>What is canned vegetables.
Possibly one of the most disgusting things mankind has ever produced, your point?

[Anonymous No.9648816]

>>9648810

fucking stir them in a bowl and pour into a buttered pan and stir with a spatula until all the water/moisture that you'll see shiny on them is gone

[Anonymous No.9648817]

>>9648812
>canned

at least get flash frozen vegetables

[Anonymous No.9648818]

>>9648816
>until all the water/moisture that you'll see shiny on them is gone

Jesus christ you can't even do scrambled eggs right. You're supposed to take them off the heat BEFORE all the shiny is gone otherwise you've overcooked the fucks.

[Anonymous No.9648843]

>>9648818

>doing the austic ramsay method of moving and removing the pan over an over

just fucking stir until the moisture is gone then scrape it on your plate

its not just going to fucking sit there and keep cooking

[Anonymous No.9648859]

>>9648818
>implying there's only one correct level of cooked for eggs
some people like them more watery or more dry.
also, please, no more. I'm running out of gifs

[Anonymous No.9648873]

>>9647426
>getting everything out
>preparing everything
>cooking everything
>hope you don't fuck up
>cleaning dishes

Imagine you spend $10 on stuff to cook with, and you spend 45+ minutes cooking it and then washing dishes and at the end of it all it's mediocre or shit. Was this a good use of your time and money? Or should you just have went to McD's next door and spent $2.14 on some McChickens?

[Anonymous No.9648915]

>>9648771
>Fresh food is about driving to the grocery store or the market and buying ingredients that aren't rotten.
It takes no longer to buy fresh stuff at the store than ready-to-eat stuff.

>Fresh food is about cleaning up the entire kitchen every single meal
Throw some dish soap in the pan while it's still hot and run hot water over it. Instantly 90% clean (if damaged (but modern non-stick pans are basically disposable)). If you have to clean the rest of your kitchen, something has gone terribly wrong and you are probably retarded.

> Fresh food is about having the pure raw leisure time to research and experiment with new recipes.
You don't need to "research" how to fucking eat, if you've ever eaten before you should have a good idea of what things taste good.

>there's only a few hours until the next meal where you need to do it all over again.
how fat are you that you eat a full meal that often?

You're American, aren't you? Americans are such a loathsome people.

>>9648788
>pancakes is the most ridiculous.
that was the point it was an extreme example but a valid example because of retards like >>9648771

[Anonymous No.9648920]

>>9648873
>you spend 45+ minutes cooking
you have brain deficiencies

[Anonymous No.9648939]

>>9648920
>all meals take less than 30 minutes
This is simply not true.

[Anonymous No.9648965]

>>9648873
Yes. You got some experience and learned what not to do. You only get good at shit by practice.

[Anonymous No.9649001]

>>9648873
Imagine spending an hour getting your McChicken and on the way there you get raped when you get a flat and it costs you $2 for McChicken, $209 for a new tire and $7 to replace your torn underoos when you get home you realize the McChicken wasn't good. You could have saved time and money by not eating

[Anonymous No.9649015]

>>9649001
>hour to get to McDonald's
Wanna know how I can tell you're not American?

[Anonymous No.9649019]

>>9647426
the best are people who talk about how much they value their time by the hour and how cooking is beneath them since it doesn't represent a profit v/s eating out. i'm a complete free-market capitalist but this kind of materialism really gets my goat. don't cook if you don't like it but don't make it a class thing.

[Anonymous No.9649028]

>>9648939
make a stir fry then. stir fries are fast. or burgers. burgers are very quick and probably take less time to make than oven fries.

>>9649015
>implying it doesn't take an hour to get to mcdos in america because there's no commercial zoning within 200 miles from a normal home

[Anonymous No.9649039]

>>9649028
>"oven fries"
>hey guys I'm american

[Anonymous No.9649049]

>>9649039
>>"oven fries"
I'm sorry. McCain™ SuperFries®

[Anonymous No.9649073]

>>9649015
Yes I do

[Anonymous No.9649076]

>>9649073
McDonald's are never farther than 20 minutes away, even in the most desolate shitholes in the US.

[Anonymous No.9649116]

>>9649076
This and fearing you will be fucking raped on the way to get a McChicken.

[Anonymous No.9649212]

>>9648693
You can watch Netflix while you cook

[Anonymous No.9649220]

>>9649076

Wrong again faggot. Try getting out of the big shitty

>From the "McFarthest Spot" the distance to the nearest McDonald's is 107 miles as the crow flies and 145 miles by car.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6380193/McFarthest-point-in-the-US-from-a-McDonalds.html

[Anonymous No.9649230]

>>9649220
I live in Atlanta Idaho, it takes two and a half hours to get to the nearest McDonald's in Mountain Home

[Anonymous No.9649433]

>>9647430
You clean up while the food is cooking. Then you only have like 1 or 2 pots/pans to clean when it’s done. If that’s a hassle for you then your life is destined to be shit until you sort yourself out, bucko.

[Anonymous No.9649446]

>>9648282
Rinsing 1 or 2 dishes and putting them in the dishwasher isn’t menial labor, it’s a mild inconvenience at worst. And you’ll feel at peace knowing your work is done. Fucking millennials... my 18 year old sister is less pathetic than you

[Anonymous No.9649457]

>>9648411
>involves sautéing onion and garlic
20 bucks says anon will try this, burn the garlic until it’s black and complain that the recipe “just didn’t work.” That’s how helpless some people are. I seent it before.

[Anonymous No.9649463]

>>9647426
I enjoy cooking. But there are days when i come home after work, hungry and tired as fuck.

[Anonymous No.9649464]

>>9648233
>Its boring require a ton of standing, actual attention
So you're fat and have a.d.d.?

[Anonymous No.9649476]

>>9648420
So you're lazy?

[Anonymous No.9649612]

>>9647426
For me I love cooking but I've felt my time management skills deteriorate and I'm never home enough to cook anymore. So I've just been eating out a lot and honestly I hate it. I need to start meal prepping

[Anonymous No.9649637]

>>9649433
>>9649446

Why would I wash the dishes when I can get somebody like you to do them for me? :^)

[Anonymous No.9650065]

>>9649476
>says he doesn't like it because it takes too much time from all the other things he wants to do
>huuur durr u don't lik 2 cool just because ur lazy!!!
Fucking dumbass, I guess someone who doesn't like to cook because it wastes too much of his time when he works 16 hours a day is lazy too huh.

[Anonymous No.9650285]

>>9649457
sigh, you may be right. of course its always the recipe ...

[Anonymous No.9650306]

>>9650065
>I guess someone who doesn't like to cook because it wastes too much of his time when he works 16 hours a day is lazy too huh.
yeah because they don't

[Anonymous No.9650481]

>>9647430
I agree

[Anonymous No.9650486]

>>9650065
>I guess someone who doesn't like to cook because it wastes too much of his time when he works 16 hours a day is lazy too huh.
You don't work 16 hours a day. Nobody does. You should probably get a different job instead of using it as an excuse to be a pathetic victim.

[Anonymous No.9650493]

>>9647430
1.) Throw in dishwasher or
2.) Learn how to handwash your dishes, e.g. soak them for 30-60 minutes in hot water and soap instead of standing there inefficiently scrubbing with a smelly sponge like an assclown

[Anonymous No.9650539]

>>9647586
>. if i follow a recipe to the letter it comes out similar to shit that i just threw into a stove and guessed everything

thats my problem now. i really started cooking on my own probably 10 years ago and fucked up quite a bit along the way but learned a lot of things from trial and error.

the problem now is i can look at a recipe and pretty much know whether or not its going to be good and what its going to taste like. indian food for instance, has many dishes that are basically the same with a few things omitted or added and i think why would i even bust my ass making x dish when its similar to this one i dont feel like outputting extra effort for something thats the same.

[Anonymous No.9650553]

>>9648750
>I find being able to cook for myself is a sign of recovery more than a recovery method.

HOLY FUCK ARE YOU ME

[Anonymous No.9650560]

The logistics of it all just make my brain hurt.

I will look up some recipe and then it requires a bit of many ingredients that I would not use again. Like a tablespoon of some sauce that I would only use for one recipe that is only sold in big bottles.

If you have your ingredients then first you need to wash your vegetables and then peel them and then cut them.

You might need to use several pans and coordinate everything.

Also dealing with raw meat requires you to be careful for it to not come in contact with anything that won't be washed or cooked.

Also sometimes making one recipe will be more expensive than going to the restauraunt.

It's just all so tiresome. Maybe it would be easier if someone held my hand through it.

[Anonymous No.9650767]

>>9650560
I never go for recipes that have uncommon ingredients

If you want to try something simple try a chili or stew

[Anonymous No.9650772]

>>9650486
It was a hypothetical stupid. No one claimed they were working 16 hours a day. The point is if someone spends the day doing something else how the fuck can you call them lazy if they're doing something you mouthbreathing cretin?

[Anonymous No.9650791]

>>9647430
>What is cleaning while cooking
>What is having significant other help
>What is a dishwasher

[Anonymous No.9650849]

My wife breaks down in tears whenever she fails with her below average cooking skills. It's a constant trial and error in my kitchen.

[Anonymous No.9650855]

>>9650772
Because its 99 times out of 100 because they want to watch even more talmudvision

[Anonymous No.9650860]

>>9650486
>Pathetic victim
>Of a dirty kitchen

[Anonymous No.9650867]

From what I read in this thread the problem a lot of people have is falling for the recipe meme and expecting good results asap (like trying to paint a masterpiece before learning how to mix paints).

Looking for specific recipes online often leads to disaster and they are more useful when shared between professionals/experienced users rather than novices (as they will be more set in their successful ways and need someone to say "trust me just try making it like this" so they can learn more).

Failing tutelage from a friend who can cook (and I mean really cook not "hurrr my chilli is the best bro"; look for a friend with a vast array of professional cookbooks or restaurant experience), beginners should think of simple dishes like pasta aglio e olio, and instead of just following a recipe, research the dish (wikipedia, watch multiple videos on youtube, read 3 or 4 recipes but don't give majority credence to any single one) and attempt to make the dish. The investment should be cheap as success may not come immediately. Research your failings and continue attempting the dish until you have a breakthrough. Then try with another cheap, simple dish (stir fry maybe) and so on until you feel comfortable.

[Anonymous No.9650902]

I don't know it just doesn't feel good man

[Anonymous No.9650930]

am irl chef
cooking at work is alright, but pita at home, everything takes forever to heat up and i have a dumb shit sink with a small partition and large partition, but the faucet doesn't reach the large part so i have to wash stuff in less than a cubic foot of space

[Anonymous No.9650933]

>>9650560
>almost all of these are very basic stuff you should have in your pantry anyways

>you dont wash vegetables that you peel, doesn't make sense

>Most dishes can be made in 1 or 2 pans

>amerifats are deathly afraid of raw meat yet dont care about being morbidly obese

>no

Ok, so you're just lazy and never learned to cook. There is a learning curve and once you are past it you can whip up a great, healthy and cheap dinner in 10-15 minutes

[Anonymous No.9650934]

>>9650867
>putting that much effort into one fucking recipe
>3 times a day
Yet we have people arguing that not wanting to do that is just laziness.

Nah m8, I'll stick to just pulling some stupid shit off Delish once a day

[Anonymous No.9650946]

>>9650902
That’s cause you’re shit at it. Like people who start learning guitar and whine that their fingers hurt because they haven’t built callouses yet.

[Anonymous No.9650947]

Alright fellas, I'm tired of eating out all the time. Just because I'm forever alone doesn't mean I have to eat like a pig. Easy and tasty recipes for the bachelor male? And please don't go haute cuisine on my ass, I need simple, tasty shit. Nothing I need to marinate 48 hours in advance or similar stupid nonsense.

[Anonymous No.9650962]

Someone (competent) should make a series of videos that teach you basic cooking skills and simple everyday dishes.

[Anonymous No.9651013]

>making pancakes and freezing the extras is bad

?????

[Anonymous No.9651031]

>>9650947
Chili: Things you'll need
>Pot
>Cup of diced onions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCGS067s0zo
>lb of ground beef
>Olive oil
>Can of diced tomatoes
>Can of kidney beans
>Jar of garlic
>Salt
>Pepper
>Chili powder
>+ Means optional if you have it laying around
>+Bayleaf, Herb D'Provence/Italian Herbs

>Into the pot
>Enough olive oil to just lubricate the bottom of the pan, oil shouldn't appear to move much if you tilt the pot
>Medium heat
>Beef and onions into the pot
>1 teaspoon of garlic
>2 teaspoons of salt
>1 teaspoon of pepper
>+1 teaspoon of Italian herbs
>Constantly stir/mash to break up the beef into little pieces
>Cook until brown and it looks like taco meat
>Empty your cans of tomatoes and beans into the pot, don't bother draining them first
>Bring to a simmer
>Stir in a tablespoon (3 teaspoons) of chili powder
>+Add a bay leaf
>Let it simmer with the lid on (stove at just above low) for about 15 minutes
>Taste it
>Modify it based on what you like, here's some tips:
>>If it tastes bland try adding some salt
>>If it needs some spice (not hot spice) add some black pepper
>>If it needs a bit of fresher/herby composition, add some green herbs
>>If you want a smoother mouth feel/hearty spice, add some cumin
>>If it doesn't taste enough like chili, add more chili powder
>>If its not savory enough, add some onions/garlic/celery
>>If it needs some sweetness, add some butter
Once you have something that tastes good in the early form of a stew/chili, the result will taste twice as good
>Let it simmer for at least an hour, after 2 hours it will be absolutely delicious, especially over tortilla chips with some cheese and sour cream

In order to cook good food you need to develop a palate, there's no way to get around it. Constantly be trying the food as you're making it (as long as its safe to do so)

When I look at a recipe, I look at the major components in it to see what the thing is actually made of because people will often minor things to signal.

[Anonymous No.9651704]

>>9647426
Nobody thinks this, fucktard NEET. Cooking is enormously popular and mainstream.

You're just looking for reasons to feel superior to the "feminists" and "cucks" that have jobs, friends, and stuff going on outside home that sometimes causes them to eat at restaurants or get home late and not have time to cook the latest recipe on Chef Steps. You're probably one of those people who bitches about tipping too.

[Anonymous No.9651711]

>>9651704
>t. cooklet

[Anonymous No.9651719]

>>9651704

You really needed to become a giant asshole from this thread? Jesus Christ, you're a weirdo.

[Anonymous No.9651728]

>>9651704

You're angry, drunk or stupid. Or all three.

[Anonymous No.9651729]

>>9651711
Oh yeah and you're also probably one of those people who bitches and moans about people who have better gear than you. Because nice things are a scam, or something.

How does it make you feel that I just sliced up a half dozen spiny bittermelon with a gesshin ginga wa gyuto in white #2 on a boos board? Oh I guess you don't know what any of that stuff is because you're too busy congratulating yourself that you managed to boil some canned tomatoes and make "from scratch" spaghetti sauce.

[Anonymous No.9651735]

>>9651729

You need your seratonin levels measured by a doctor.

[Anonymous No.9651736]

>>9651728
I've had a few glasses of wine. Not drunk yet.

[Anonymous No.9651737]

>>9651736

You sound like a depressive drunk. You need to talk to someone.

[Anonymous No.9651742]

>>9651735
It's spelled serotonin, and I don't have space in my life for pill pushers any longer. I'm perfectly competent at self medicating thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.9651750]

>>9651742

You're an insecure drunk trying to matter to yourself and you're failing at it. Talk to a professional.

[Anonymous No.9651754]

>>9651750
>>9651737
>>9651735
>>9651728
>>9651719
Luthier guy, is that you?

[Anonymous No.9651758]

>>9651729
>How does it make you feel that I just sliced up a half dozen spiny bittermelon with a gesshin ginga wa gyuto in white #2 on a boos board?
It makes me think you're a try-hard faggot without any actual ability to cook

[Anonymous No.9651766]

>>9651758
>bittermelon is tryhard
Shoudln't you be shitposting about the avocado fad?

[Anonymous No.9651774]

>>9651754

Who doesn't know how to install purfling in a 25,000 dollar instrument these days?

[Anonymous No.9651776]

>>9650791
>>What is having significant other
I don't know

[Anonymous No.9651795]

>>9651766
No, telling me what Japanese meme knife you're using to slice a fruit in an attempt to gain status on an anonymous imageboard is pathetic.

[Anonymous No.9651797]

>>9651754

Where'd you go, hunny? No more chats?

[Anonymous No.9651805]

>>9651754

I know you empty holes of humanity exist, but you should really stop sapping your parents wealth just to be human garbage on the internet.

[Anonymous No.9651809]

>>9651774
I wouldn't know, I bought a ming jiang zhu model 925 for $5000 because I'm going out of my way to avoid financially supporting manufacturing within the borders of the US. It's a bit off topic though.

[Anonymous No.9651812]

>>9651797
No, the fucking captcha is out of control these days and posting a single god damm post is like trying to beat a buggy, badly designed video game

How do people do this shit anymore? I haven't been to 4chan in a few months

[Anonymous No.9651820]

>>9651809
>ming jiang zhu

You should Purchase a Raymond Schryer. http://www.violincello.com/ He's my father and was truly amazing as a specialized luthier. He's award winning and has worked on Strads, Guadaninis, Guilliaums everything.

[Anonymous No.9651824]

>>9651812
Just use legacy captcha.

[Anonymous No.9651827]

>>9651809

a tune you should listen to from a Vuillaume violin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1dBg__wsuo&list=RDkFaq9kTlcaY&index=4

[Anonymous No.9651852]

>>9651820
Enjoy lmao

[Anonymous No.9651858]

>>9651820
It's likely I've met him, but I'm not in the market anymore. Also you probably shouldn't be posting such personal information about yourself.

>>9651827
I touched a JB Vuillaume that my friend owned. I was offered to play it but I was too afraid. I did play with a Peccatte bow on the same occasion, which for some reason I was too stupid to be afraid to play, and only later did the waves of fear wash over me as I thought about what would happen if I had dropped it. You basically have to be an oligarch, or an oligarch's sex toy, if you want to have a nice instrument anymore. Back in my day you could have something like that for the price of a normal house in a decent suburb.

Anyway my dinner is done cooking, it took me several minutes to pass the captcha, and I'm done struggling with this. Maybe I'll check back later when I'm drunker.

[Anonymous No.9651860]

>>9651852

Listen to a concerto from Mendelssohn, you stupid piece of shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1dBg__wsuo&list=RDkFaq9kTlcaY&index=4

It's like talking to human garbage on 4chan these days. Just things you would rather not have on your boot.

[Anonymous No.9651866]

>>9651858

Hill bows are considered superior I think. They're silver wound. Cost like 3 grand at least these days.

[Anonymous No.9651872]

>>9651858

My dad gave me a an Ernest Heinrich Roth back in 82. That's probably worth 10 grand now at least.

[Anonymous No.9652011]

>>9650791
Pick two lmao am I right fellas?!

[Anonymous No.9652763]

>>9648233

There are amazing, simple and tasty meals you can make in 15 minutes or less.

[Anonymous No.9652775]

>>9647434
kys

[Anonymous No.9653093]

>>9649028
if there's no commercial zoning the there are no fast food places either

[Anonymous No.9653112]

>>9650930
get a hose attachment for your faucet so the water reaches the other part of the sink

[Anonymous No.9653121]

>>9647426

I feel like an idiot when I try to cook because I feel like I have no idea what I’m doing but also feel like I should know what I’m doing. Like when I fuck up cooking an egg, or get hash browns somehow stuck to a nonstick pan.

[Anonymous No.9653160]

>>9648633

What do you do for work?

[Anonymous No.9653374]

>>9650934
>expecting good results asap

Exhibit A, ladies and gentlemen. You have to start somewhere, eventually you will be able to whip up great complex meals in little time, but I don't know why you expect it overnight.

[Anonymous No.9653404]

>>9647655
Yeah, it is a matter of experience and tasteing.

[Anonymous No.9653418]

>>9647426
Deferred gratification isn't taught to everyone. This makes cooking feel like work instead of pleasure.

[Anonymous No.9653428]

>>9648299
Microwave is sucks. It is harmful. It destroys the secondary structure of water with destroying the intermolekular hidrogen bridge bonds,

[Anonymous No.9653430]

>>9653428
it doesn't help that most people don't even know how to microwave properly

>LOL NUKE IT

[Anonymous No.9653552]

>>9647426
Because it's usually not a quick process and most people have jobs and thus are limited on free time

[Anonymous No.9653576]

Because I'm constantly overstimulated by having all the entertainment and work I could want on my computer that doing something like cooking is excruciatingly boring. Cooking is too much standing around and doing shit I don't want to do for such an underwhelming outcome. Spend an hour or more actively at a stove on food that I'll eat in 10 minutes? I'd rather make a sandwich and just get back to what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.9655430]

>>9648282
I clean up before i eat.

[Anonymous No.9655447]

>>9650791
Hassle. He just said you mong.

[Anonymous No.9655450]

>>9653552

>most people have jobs

1/3 is not most

[Anonymous No.9655468]

>>9655430
this
>cook stuff
>rinse pots/pans and get worst of the gunk out
>if any remains, at least fill it with water so it can be washed later

also if youre REALLY lazy, anything you make in an oven you can just line your pan with aluminum foil. if you feel bad about the environment, stuff the used aluminum foil into drink cans and then take the cans back to be recycled.

[Anonymous No.9655472]

>>9648348
>>9647627
>because i should be able to follow a recipe to the letter and get a good output.
>whats the point of a recipe if you have to add your own unique twists to make it good?
youre not following these recipes properly because every time ive cooked out of a cookbook it's gone swimmingly

are you making substitutions for things or something? you're not wrong -- the entire point of a recipe is that it just werks, if it's not just werking for you then youre doing it wrong

[Anonymous No.9655484]

>>9647426
Same reason most people don't enjoy working on their own car. I enjoy both. I'm not a lazyfag

[Anonymous No.9655511]

>>9647634
>Because a sizable portion of people think cooking is like wizardry
i blame "mixologists" and "gastronomic chemists" and other meme job titles for this perception

>>9648592
eggs are hard because they stick, not because of uneven heating

honestly the one thing you should shell out for in a kitchen is frying pans. even knives are best bought cheap since you can just sharpen them, but a proper teflon coated or fancy iron ore pellet blasted non-stick pan is worth its weight in gold.

cast iron is a meme btw, apex cooking surface is a stainless steel grill

[Anonymous No.9655519]

>>9648623
>Think of everything you enjoy that you could be doing instead of cooking.
i dont enjoy anything

[Anonymous No.9655547]

>>9655484
>Same reason most people don't enjoy working on their own car.
if i were allowed to drive and had the money for a car, i would probably not work on it just out of fear of breaking it rather than not liking mechanical stuff

you can just throw out a shitty meal and order takeout instead; you can't exactly throw out your car and buy a new one if you cut your springs while trying to be a stance motherfucker but cut the wrong part of your shocks

[Anonymous No.9655555]

>>9655547
>His example is cutting springs to be a stance fag
That's a McChicken thing to do to your car.

[Anonymous No.9655573]

>>9655555
dunno how i should feel bout those quints

[Anonymous No.9655622]

>>9655573
You know it's true. If you actually want to increase the performance of your suspension stance has little to do with it. You need to actually by a stiffer suspension kit made from the proper materials and scientifically better geometry.

[Anonymous No.9655639]

>>9655622
>You know it's true.
of course i do, i was just using it as an example of how working on your car is vastly more potentially destructive than cooking for yourself

even something like fiddling with your own ECU runs the risk of ruining the firmware entirely and bricking it. people trying to install rally lights have probably ruined their electrical systems overall before by overloading or cross-wiring them. that sort of thing. people can be barely trusted to park cars with rotary engines without doing them massive damage

stance is for faggots, if i was dumb and rich enough to buy a car for myself id probably fuck it up in the other direction with dumb positive camber and replacing the differentials with ones made of gears and shit

fuck i wanna play gmod now

[Anonymous No.9655667]

>>9655511
You’re full of shit. If your eggs stick either pan is wrong temp or not enough oil

[Anonymous No.9655673]

>>9655639
That's my point most people choose to not learn how to do something as simple as an oil change. They could. It takes less time than to make a pot of pasta, but they're lazy fucks.

[Anonymous No.9655675]

>>9653121
Nonstick just means you don’t necessarily need to add oil. Pan still has to be the right temperature

[Anonymous No.9655678]

>>9655667
>pan is wrong temp
doubtful
>not enough oil
this was the case, i learned to just not be afraid of fat and started greasing my pan more when I intended to cook eggs.

That and just getting a new pan. When I moved into my place and found a dusty old pan that showed zero signs of actual use, I could suddenly make decent fried eggs. Having a roommate who liked using a metal fork to stir his noodles on it put the kibosh on that shit though, so that pan is now my backstop for my BB gun targets.

[Anonymous No.9655704]

>>9653121
the thing is that teflon isn't magic. it's not non-stick, it's stick-resistant. it's a molecularly smooth and fairly inert surface so it's hard to stick to but it can still happen with heat and surface tension

[Anonymous No.9655721]

>>9655673
>something as simple as an oil change.
What if you turn the wrong cap and you drain your brake fluid and now you have oil in your brakes and have the same braking power but need to be Chun Li to actually work the brakes?

[Anonymous No.9655724]

>>9655721
Well you should know that the oil pan looks nothing like a slave or master cylinder or anything else associated with a brake system. YouTube it.

[Anonymous No.9655758]

>>9655724
m8 i dont know how else to express to you that working on a car is more threatening than cooking food because a car's high price compared to food makes it more of a loss when you fail working on a car compared to food

though i hope from this conversation we can both see greater appreciation for why people do or don't cook in relation to that threat level from the consequences of fucking up

cooking is so well documented and food is so cheap that you can just youtube stuff from making a proper chicken to having sushi shop sharp knives

mechanic work is also very well documented, but cars arent cheap so if i can only afford one Echo in a life, i for one would rather leave it stock than fuck up trying to prepare it for too-gay play and fuck it up and no longer have a functional Echo

[Anonymous No.9655765]

>>9647430
>not having a place with a dishwasher

[Anonymous No.9655791]

>>9655758
Jesus lad how poor are you?

[Anonymous No.9655800]

>>9655758
>ff8 came out 47 years ago
fuck i am old

[Anonymous No.9655813]

>>9655758
>>9655791
Also I should add if you are really poor but want a car you best learn how to work on it. It's a minimum of $80 an hour for a professional repairman.

[Anonymous No.9655816]

>cutting onion
>outer layer that I'm gripping slips off
>inner layers fly forward
cooking is for gay fags

[Anonymous No.9655841]

>>9647426
>I find it to be one of the most pleasurable things in my day-to-day life.
Me too. But maybe that's because I down a six pack while I make dinner every night to dull the misery brought on by the inane happenings of my everyday life.

[Anonymous No.9655859]

>>9655816
Did you cut off the root?

[Anonymous No.9655920]

>>9655800
good thing its a 50 year game. time compression is a hell of a drug

[Anonymous No.9655929]

>>9655791
0 debt but i have exactly enough for next month's rent and bills

>>9655813
its really more the lack of utility in a car for me -- i live in the city, and getting a license here is particularly expensive anyway. a car is just not useful to me. it would be fun, but an expensive hobby, especially when i have DiRT and can be an armchair racer just fine ;_;

[Anonymous No.9656767]

>>9648295
>Whoever came up with this retarded social norms should be put lined up against a wall
when women entered the workforce not-cooking became a sign of being manly

also baking is the gayest thing in the world, deal with it

[Anonymous No.9656913]

>Why do most people view cooking as a hassle?

Because most people are from flyover shitholes. Next question.

[Anonymous No.9656978]

>>9656913
>people on the coasts are sophisticated and always effortlessly cook their own food

[Anonymous No.9656992]

>>9655929
The worst part about this webm is the car itself. The RX8 was such a massive fucking mistake

[Anonymous No.9657012]

>>9647430
Agreed

[Anonymous No.9657013]

>>9656978
Yep, that's exactly what I said, got a problem with that Cletus?

[Anonymous No.9657149]

>>9657013
Then you're wrong and also probably a gay sissy

[Anonymous No.9657633]

>>9647434
Smart. If I could handle eating that it would make life a lot easier.

[Anonymous No.9657979]

>>9649212
underrated post. instead of sitting on your ass watching youtube or netflix, watch it while cooking. I pop in headphones and listen to a podcast while shooping for ingredients and then usually switch to tv/youtube when cooking.

[Anonymous No.9657986]

>>9649446
>implying that everyone has a dishwasher
i ran out of gifs
also unless you're using disposable plates/cups/silverware it would be a minimum of 5 things to wash

[Anonymous No.9657991]

>>9650791
don't have the last two and the first one is impossible for any dish I've ever cooked. nothing can be cleaned until the food is done and moved to containers

[Anonymous No.9658000]

>>9650962
oh, you mean those videos all over youtube?

[Anonymous No.9658003]

>>9651704
are you fucking retarded? this thread is full of examples of people that DO think this.
read more than one post in a thread before spouting your opinion

[Anonymous No.9658019]

>>9655450
where tf do you live that the unemployment rate is 66%? most people DO have jobs

[Anonymous No.9658037]

>>9655816
you're a gay fag for not knowing how to chop onions properly

[Anonymous No.9659614]

>>9658019
Clearly more than half the population doesn't work

idk about a third, but children and retirees easily make up that ground

[Anonymous No.9659712]

>>9647655
also creativity and imagination.

[Anonymous No.9659744]

>>9647507
>lay awake for 5 hours lamenting every choice you ever made.
that's your problem right there, the past is just a memory anon, it's not real. Only the present moment is real. And you seem to be doing fine enough at this very moment to be posting on 4chan. Watch some eckhardt tolle videos on youtube, he explains better than I can.

[Anonymous No.9659968]

>>9658019
In the USA, but you are confusing people not employed with the unemployment rate which is completely different. For example I'm 42 and not working, but not part of the unemployment rate because I have gave up looking for a job years ago.

[Anonymous No.9660609]

>>9647432
You're joking, right?

[Anonymous No.9660621]

>>9647655
It's actually like that with a lot of things, the idea of "talent" is a little too widespread and takes away from the reality that most people who are good at something had to work really hard to get good at it. People are too goddamn lazy man

[Anonymous No.9660661]

>>9647426
>>9658037
>>9649457
ever try to cut an onion like in op's pic? it's fine for smaller dices, but anything larger than that yields inconsistent onion. is it my onions that are busted, or is it these gay hands?

[Anonymous No.9661095]

>>9659614
Obviously they meant most people that are eligible (16-retirement) more specifically they meant people in that age range that would be cooking (more like 20-60yrs) I would hope at least 50.00000001% of people in that demographic have a job

[Anonymous No.9661114]

>>9660661
Yes, I have
You leave the root on so all the layers stay together until being cut.
Thanks for making me kek though

[Anonymous No.9661408]

>>9647426
Me personally, it's because I share a small kitchen with 4 people, (Parents and sisters). I enjoy cooking, but a constantly messy kitchen (like, vile. My family are slobs. Dishes always stacked in the sick, don't clean spills.) and constantly broken/damagaed/dull/missing equipment makes it so hard.

Sharing a fridge too.


As soon as I get my own personal kitchen I'm gonna invest mostly into kitchen tools.

[Anonymous No.9661559]

>>9650493
Most lower/mid incoming housing or apartments do not come with dishwashers and some do not have hookups. This is especially true for those living in the city.

[Anonymous No.9661596]

>>9661559
What country? I've been a broke fuck in various states for years and I've never even seen an apartment without a dishwasher.

[Anonymous No.9661606]

>>9661596
US Florida, it's a semi rare commodity.

[Anonymous No.9661612]

>>9647432
***They try to put a lot on their plates in life to defer existential crisis even though they don't necessarily know that that's what they are doing (which is ironic), they go on facebook and reddit, they probably care about sports in some way, they are more or less just addicted to sex and can't go without it since it was easy for them to obtain during youth. That is more or less what a normie is like and it's not that desirable.

[Anonymous No.9661620]

>>9661596
They're rare in NYC. I pay $1900 a month for a 1 bedroom and I don't have a dishwasher. My 1 percenter boss has one at home.

[Anonymous No.9661624]

>>9661408
>Dishes always stacked in the sick
yeah thats sounds bad

[Anonymous No.9661855]

>>9648299
I know this is bait but

>people actually eat this

[Anonymous No.9661920]

Lately I've been getting through dishwashing by just cranking some music and singing along at the top of my lungs like a faggot. It's honestly really fun, makes the time fly.

[Anonymous No.9662716]

>>9661920
Time flies when you're a faggot

[Anonymous No.9662798]

Breakfast and Dinner are easy enough to cook for, but when it comes to Lunch I always wind up with something prepackaged if I don't have leftovers. I guess I could make something before I go to work but I don't have much time in the mornings.

[Anonymous No.9662917]

this probably doesn't add anything to this thread but cooking a meal and then doing the dishes gives me a short break from depression and is one of the few pleasures in my crappy life

[Anonymous No.9662924]

>>9662798
This is very common. Making TWO meals when I just woke us is a complete bitch.

[Anonymous No.9662926]

>>9661606
is this like northern FL
because I know exactly zero people who don't have a dishwasher in their house and I'm down by Deerfield Beach

[Anonymous No.9662953]

>>9647426
I don't know how non-Americans do it, but here in the USA we're pretty much spoiled by the cheapness and quick, easy access to fast food and frozen dinners to the point where an American breakfast consists of pan eggs, pre-cooked sausages, and toast. Don't even have to mess with any hard shit like chopping or cleaning, just throw that shit on the heat for the bit and we're done. That's why I eat breakfast all day.

[Anonymous No.9663645]

>>9662926
i'm guessing you don't live alone. studios and 1 bedroom usually don't have dishwashers

[Anonymous No.9663653]

>>9663645

You people are trying to douche your way to suicide, aren't you? Why do garbage people need to hate each other so profoundly?

[Anonymous No.9663658]

>>9661620
WTF?!?! $1900 FOR A STUDIO? Is the minimum wage like $30? I pay $579 for my studio in northern florida

[Anonymous No.9663661]

>>9663658
>typo
you know what I meant

[Anonymous No.9663710]

>>9663661

Don't you guys want to continue your weird internet misery? Discovering each others suffering?

[Anonymous No.9663847]

>>9647430
this

[Anonymous No.9664058]

>>9647514
cooking good food for yourself is a supreme form of self-care

[Anonymous No.9664077]

>>9647430
I agree. None of these fucks berating you use more than 1 or 2 pans or have their moms clean up after them. Been cooking for myself for 27 years and it's a pain in the arse.

[Anonymous No.9664087]

>>9663658
No, not a studio, $1900 for a 1 bedroom. A studio is not a 1 bedroom. Unless you're a shady real estate agent, but in this case, I have

>a bathroom
>a kitchen
>a bedroom
>a living room
>a hallway
>a foyer

Each being a separate, distinct room. Note, I am getting a pretty good deal. $1900 is not that high for a decent neighborhood, although it helps that I have zero interest in meat packing and clubbing so I can avoid the most inflated areas.

Also, I've been to northern florida, and I have no desire ever to set foot there again. There's something seriously wrong when a place has more churches than houses.

[Anonymous No.9664121]

>>9664087
>Also, I've been to northern florida, and I have no desire ever to set foot there again. There's something seriously wrong when a place has more churches than houses.

Just like there's something seriously wrong with a place that has more buildings than fucking blades of grass.

[Anonymous No.9664143]

>>9664121
The nice thing about proper urban planning is that you can optimize both public spaces and commercial/private land development

[Anonymous No.9664150]

>>9664121
>Just like there's something seriously wrong with a place that has more buildings than fucking blades of grass.

[Anonymous No.9664158]

>>9664143
>central park

no, sorry, just no. It's every single new yorker's response, every time. Central park isn't shit. I go OUTSIDE MY HOUSE And walk in grass

>it's a big park!

wow fucking amazing, I have like 40x that much park space within 30 miles of me

you don't have grass, trees. You inhale smog and shit all day long

>muh churches

[Anonymous No.9664189]

>>9664158
>central park
It's just an example, we have a lot of parks
>I go outside my house
I go outside my apartment and walk in grass. What's the difference?
>smog
That's a valley thing, LA most specifically. New York is not LA

[Anonymous No.9664251]

my roommate eats microwavable meals, lunchables, or fast food for every single meal

i'm not sure how he is alive

[Anonymous No.9664255]

>>9647430
>>9647789
>>9649433
>>9650493
>>9650791
>>9655765
>there are people unironically defending washing the dishes
go back to your job as a busboy you fuck ups

[Anonymous No.9664260]

>>9663653
What the actual fuck are you on about

[Anonymous No.9664269]

>>9664087
I replied immediately to correct the typo. That's still ouragiously expensive. I'm sure it's a good price relative to that area but 1 bedrooms around here are $600-700. I have never heard of any apartment anywhere near that expensive holy fuck

[Anonymous No.9664300]

>>9664087
Yes we have a lot of churches but I'd rather be surrounded by Jesus freaks than deal with an over-crowded city. I've been to NYC and it was a good experience but I was glad when I was back home and wasn't constantly looking over my shoulder to make sure I'm not about to get stabbed and robbed by someone just trying to scrape together enough money to afford their fucking $2000 dollar shithole apartment.
I'll stick with my bible thumping racists and $600 shithole apartment, thank you.
I have only lived here 3 years btw

[Anonymous No.9664597]

>>9647426
My roommates exist off fast food and frozen meals, I don't know how people manage to live that way but it seems depressingly common.

I generally prefer cooking dishes that are fairly passive or just quick myself so I can dedicate more time to my projects because I enjoy them on an autistic level.

[Anonymous No.9665527]

>>9655816
why are you gripping an onion with such retard strength that you pop the inner layers out.

[Anonymous No.9665556]

>>9647426
I think it depends on the person, their life, their job, etc.

I love cooking, but I have the luxury of time. Eventually, I won't have much time (especially in the mornings).

A lot of people I know make a shitload of money, have amazing kitchens, but don't have time to cook. They work so much, and are so exhausted all the time.

Lifestyle is a big influence on cooking.

[Anonymous No.9666869]

>>9648305
LOL perfection in a comment.

[Anonymous No.9666907]

>>9648305
>subpar sex
You mean sex
>durr you just haven't had the good sex, my dad works for nintendo, I can bench 575 pounds
Poseurs can lie but I'm not fooled

[Anonymous No.9666944]

>>9664597
I have a (let's call him acquaintance) that lives in my apartment complex that is like this, I don't understand it> He doesn't have a car though and his job is 4 miles away so i guess he burns off all those unnecessary calories.

>fast food or gas station snacks for literally every meal

[Anonymous No.9666963]

This cunting thread needs to focus or die.

[Anonymous No.9666972]

>>9648633
Same boat. Today I just told the other person working they could go home right before we sat another 5 tables at once. Washing a plate that some ingrate doesn't try to appraise or disclaim my ass on is a pleasure by comparison.

[Anonymous No.9667021]

>>9647426
Normies are gay retards lmao